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Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?

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scallop

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #250 on: 25-11-2011, 12:38:24 »
To se zove Arrheniusova panspermija.
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Meho Krljic

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #251 on: 25-11-2011, 12:57:56 »
Arrheniusov koncept je malo širi, on podrazumeva da se život širi slučajnom propagacijom, dakle, da ga nose meteoriti i slična tela, a Legunova je u hainskom ciklusu zamislila da su Hainci zapravo kolonizovali planete sejući na njih genetskim inženjeringom ili već nekako prilagođene pripadnike sopstvene vrste.

scallop

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #252 on: 25-11-2011, 13:09:52 »

Ma da. Ali, Ursulin koncept je interpretacija. Mogu i ja da napišem da su Spori ospermljavali svemir, a jesam, pa neće to biti Ursulin koncept nego Arrhenijusov. Isto onako kako ga je upotrebio Fred Hojl u romanu "Halejeva kometa".
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Meho Krljic

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #253 on: 25-11-2011, 13:14:59 »
Pa, Panspermija svakako jeste Arrheniusova, ali čini mi se da je razlika između stohastičkog širenja života i strateški osmišljenog osemenjivanja planeta dovoljno fundamentalna da bih kad kažem "Ursulina panspermija" bio siguran da narod zna šta mislim.
 
Uzgred, Ursulu sam potegao jer je Hainski ciklus nedavno raspravljan na forumu, naravno da sam mogao da potegnem i Jamesa Blisha čije Zvezdane Spore (The Seedling Stars) sakupljaju priče sa istom idejom  - plansko zasejavanje planeta istom vrstom, genetski doteranom za date uslove - samo desetak godina pre početka Hainskog ciklusa.

scallop

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #254 on: 25-11-2011, 13:40:23 »
Ne bih se ja sad sporio, jer me je prepalo nestohastičko u Hainskom ciklusu. Ipak, da još jednom zaokružim varjačom. Arrhenijusova usmerena panspremija bi spadala u S (tako da se ni Hojl, ni Blish, pa ni ja nismo poveli za Hainskim ciklusom), a Hainski ciklus je F (fantastična interpretacija) gde možemo da turimo i denikenovštinu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #255 on: 25-11-2011, 13:52:15 »
Ko bi se od nas mogao prepirati sa varjačom? Ja svakako ne.

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Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
« Reply #256 on: 08-12-2011, 11:38:26 »
Ne baš na Zemlji, ali takoreći u komšiluku!!!
 
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      A mysterious object is seen following in Mercury's pathIs a giant, cloaked spaceship orbiting around Mercury?
    That's been the speculation from some corners aftera camera onboard NASA's STEREO spacecraft caught a wave of electronically charged material shooting out from the sun and hitting Mercury.
    Theorists have seized on the images captured from the "coronal mass ejection" (CME) last week as suggestive of alien life hanging out in our own cosmic backyard. Specifically, the solar flare washing over Mercury appears to hit another object of comparable size. "It's cylindrical on either side and has a shape in the middle. It definitely looks like a ship to me, and very obviously, it's cloaked," YouTube-user siniXster said in his video commentary on the footage, which has generated hundreds of thousands of views this week. Now, how this user was able to determine that the object was "obviously" a cloaked spaceship with no other natural explanation remains as much a mystery as the object itself.

    Of course, there's another scientifically sanctioned explanation for the curious images, though we're not certain that skeptics and UFO enthusiasts such as SiniXster will endorse it. Natalie Wolchover of Life's Little Mysteries put the question to scientists in the solar physics branch at the United States Naval Research Laboratory (NRL). They're the people who analyze data from the Heliospheric Imager-1 (HI-1)--better known in this context as the camera that shot the footage in question.

    Head NRL group scientist Russ Howard and lead ground systems engineer Nathan Rich say the mysterious object is in fact Mercury itself. And what we're seeing in the footage is the equivalent of Mercury's wake, "where the planet was on the previous day," as it travels through the solar system on its natural gravitational path:
     
    To make the relatively faint glow of a coronal mass ejection stand out against the bright glare of space—caused by interplanetary dust and the stellar/galactic background—the NRL scientists must remove as much background light as possible. They explained that they determine what light is background light, and thus can be subtracted out, by calculating the average amount of light that entered each camera pixel on the day of the CME event and on the previous day. Light appearing in the pixels on both days is considered to be background light and is removed from the footage of the CME. The remaining light is then enhanced.
    The analysts say the practice works even better when applied to far-off objects such as stars, which don't move much relative to the sun. But for moving objects, especially planets, the process is a little more complicated. And making matters even trickier is Mercury's staus as the closest planet to the sun.
    "When [this averaging process] is done between the previous day and the current day and there is a feature like a planet, this introduces dark (negative) artifacts in the background where the planet was on the previous day, which then show up as bright areas in the enhanced image," Rich explained in an email.

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #257 on: 23-03-2012, 10:15:02 »
    I WAS ANTI-OBAMA BEFORE IT WAS COOL

    zakk

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #258 on: 03-04-2012, 19:03:30 »
    Promocija knjige "Gde su vanzemaljci?"
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    Razgovor o knjizi Stivena Veba "Gde su vanzemaljci?"

    Učestvuju:

    dr Milan M. Ćirković (Astronomska opservatorija u Beogradu)
    dr Tijana Prodanović (Univerzitet u Novom Sadu, departman za fiziku)
    Bojan Stojanović (urednik Heliksa)
     
     Ovo je knjiga o Fermijevom paradoksu – protivrečnosti između prividnog nepostojanja vanzemaljaca i opšteg očekivanja da bi trebalo da primetimo dokaze o njihovom prisustvu. Galaksija bi trebalo da vrvi od vanzemaljskih civilizacija. Odavno bi trebalo da smo primetili njihovo postojanje, ali ipak nismo. Pa, gde su svi oni? Gde su vanzemaljci? To pitanje je postavio jedan od najčuvenijih fizičara prošlog veka, Enriko Fermi. U fascinantnoj knjizi Stivena Veba „Gde su vanzemaljci“, napisanoj da bude lak i razumljiv uvod u astrobiologiju, ponuđeno je 50 mogućih rešenja Fermijevog paradoksa.

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #259 on: 09-11-2012, 20:19:13 »
    Dosta, dosta cudna stvar u Denveru. Mozda i prvi put "zvanicni" snimak neke velike novinske kuce(a tu je i onaj "cuveni konspirativni" aerodrom u Denveru).  xfaga

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    Ghoul

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #260 on: 25-04-2013, 21:50:13 »
    dosta su više ti alieni šarali po našoj planeti i ostavljali neke kao 'poruke' u pustinjama i žitima!

    evo sad, nek vide marsovci malo kako je to kad im zemaljski robot nacrta kurac po površini planete!
    da znaju šta ih čeka ako nešto pokušaju! a i ako ne pokušaju!  :evil:


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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #262 on: 26-04-2013, 11:50:15 »
     :-?
    Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.


    Biki

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #264 on: 18-02-2016, 19:29:55 »

    varvarin

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #265 on: 17-03-2016, 10:14:15 »
    A šta vi vidite?


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    Karl Rosman

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #266 on: 17-03-2016, 12:44:49 »
    Neozbiljni su. Ocigledno se radi o...


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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #267 on: 23-02-2017, 22:32:08 »
    T2 irritazioni risuscitare dai morti.

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    Re: Jesu li vanzemaljci dolazili na Zemlju?
    « Reply #268 on: 15-03-2017, 20:16:11 »
    Ma, bre šta se zamajavate sa američke gluposti. Braća Rusi na TV sve objasnili. Eve vi pa gledajte :