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interfejsi interfejsi
« on: 31-07-2012, 10:01:04 »
http://vesti.mojauto.rs/Aktuelne-vesti/335216/Ukljucite-klimu-namigivanjem-promenite-stanicu-osmehom

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Uključite klimu namigivanjem, promenite stanicu osmehom

MojAuto | 27. 07. 2012. - 16:32h

  Aktiviranje različitih komandi u vozačkoj kabini uskoro će postati prelako. Inženjeri kompanije „Harman“ razvili su sistem koji će omogućiti vozačima da jednim pokretom lica, treptajem oka ili recimo namigivanjem uključe radio ili klima uređaj.

 Kako isključiti klimu bez ruku?

  Sistem je baziran na infracrvenim zracima koji prate vozačevo lice i ruke i dovoljno je, recimo, da namignete i radio će se uključiti. Ako namignete, na primer, levim okom zvuk će se pojačati, desnim će se smanjiti i sl.

  Ako udarite po površini volana, prebacićete na drugu radio stanicu. Da biste nekoga pozvali, dovoljno je da palcem dodirnete uvo, dok je mali prst zadužen za javljanje na poziv. Za kontrolu klime dovoljno će biti samo da vozač pređe rukom preko menjača i to je to.
 

Promena temperature bez korišćenja ruku

Razvoj novih sistema i uređaja traje gotovo besprekidno pa neće biti smak sveta ako u skorijoj budućnosti vozač bude u prilici da nešto samo pomisli i da automobil to prepozna kao komandu i izvrši "postavljeni" zadatak.

Komande mislima jesu još uvek deo futurističkih zamisli, ali upravljanjem treptajem oka nije. Naime, inženjeri kompanije "Harman", koja se bavi rešenjima za zabavu u automobilima, razvila je sistem koji prepoznaje različite pokrete čovečijeg lica i iste tumači kao komande, poput onih za upravljanjem radija, grejanja, navigacije, ali i telefoniranja bez korišćenja ruku.
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

zakk

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #1 on: 31-07-2012, 10:04:58 »
Mnogo čudnih stvari u ovom članku...

prvo, ako ću da menjam stanicu, neću da se smešim, to je valjda suprotno od onoga što osećam -_-

namigivanje tokom vožnje? zvuči bezbedno.

olakšavanje korišćenja mobilnog tokom vožnje? pa da, molim vas, ne voze ljudi dovoljno dok pričaju.

...i tako dalje.


Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Gaff

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Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Gaff

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #3 on: 25-03-2013, 12:52:14 »
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Gaff

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Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #5 on: 08-10-2013, 16:01:18 »
Jaojebemimbremater i Marisu Majer i jebo je konj na kom je dojahala iz gugla u Jahu....  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Znači, stvarno... Kad je Yahoo skrepovao classic verziju mejla škrgutao sam zubima i odolevao skoro godinu dana jer moje portabl konzole sa svojim krš brauzerima nisu mogle da otvore nju end impruvd verziju Jahuovog inboksa.

Taman kad sam se navikao na novi inboks i shvatio da mi, recimo tabovi rade koristan posao, Jahu naravno sve opet promeni. Odolevao sam, ali danas mi je nasilno apdejtovan nalog i, naravno sad navika koju sam gradio tako dugo odlazi u kuras. Nema više tabova. Folderi se ne apdejtuju dovoljno ažurno, pa se obrisani mejlovi još uvek prijavljuju kao nepročitani izvesno vreme itd. Ko bre dizajnira ove stvari? Testiraju li oni to? Pitaju li narod valja li?? Majku im jebem ustašku!!!!!!

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #6 on: 08-10-2013, 16:22:35 »
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

http://milosh.mojblog.rs/

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #7 on: 09-10-2013, 00:16:26 »
Jaojebemimbremater i Marisu Majer i jebo je konj na kom je dojahala iz gugla u Jahu....  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Znači, stvarno... Kad je Yahoo skrepovao classic verziju mejla škrgutao sam zubima i odolevao skoro godinu dana jer moje portabl konzole sa svojim krš brauzerima nisu mogle da otvore nju end impruvd verziju Jahuovog inboksa.

Taman kad sam se navikao na novi inboks i shvatio da mi, recimo tabovi rade koristan posao, Jahu naravno sve opet promeni. Odolevao sam, ali danas mi je nasilno apdejtovan nalog i, naravno sad navika koju sam gradio tako dugo odlazi u kuras. Nema više tabova. Folderi se ne apdejtuju dovoljno ažurno, pa se obrisani mejlovi još uvek prijavljuju kao nepročitani izvesno vreme itd. Ko bre dizajnira ove stvari? Testiraju li oni to? Pitaju li narod valja li?? Majku im jebem ustašku!!!!!!

Ево сад видјех и ја :-( Подржавам твој оправдани гњев.

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #8 on: 09-10-2013, 00:33:46 »
Gmail ;)
Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #9 on: 09-10-2013, 09:24:51 »
O gmailu da i ne pričam. Svaka revizija njihovog mejl klijenta je bila gora od prethodne. Mislim, meni.

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #10 on: 09-10-2013, 09:33:31 »
Meni je neverovatno da neko još koristi Jahu.

Naravno, ja koristim Thunderbird u sprezi sa sezampro imejl adresom, pa mi je sva višegodišnja prepiska nedostupna ako nisam kod kuće.
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #11 on: 09-10-2013, 09:47:42 »
Što neverovatno??? Mislim, Jahu je meni uvek bio udobniji i od gmaila i od hotmaila a to su jedina tri servisa koja sam koristio, jer u moje vreme drugog nije ni bilo  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Barbarin

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #12 on: 09-10-2013, 15:55:42 »
Ne znam šta imaš protiv gmail-a, ja ga koristim već dugo, jesu menjali što šta ali samo što se tiče izgleda, sve je gde je i bilo kolko me sećanje služi, nisam se gubio da bi našao nešto. Sad ti vrv koristiš email mnogo, mnogo više od mene, pa ti trebaju neke posebne opcije. Al meni se sviđa što je na googlu sve povezano, gmail, youtube, chrome, drive... Možeš da namestiš i da ti stižu mailovi sa drugi adresa na gmail, ne znam za yahoo.
Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #13 on: 10-10-2013, 10:31:02 »
Ja actually mrzim što je gugl sve povezao, da bi mogli da me bolje špijuniraju tako da gmail koristim samo za uzak spektar aktivnosti.

Enivej, iz nekog neobjašnjivog razloga, između mog poslednjeg proveravanja mejla jutros kod kuće, oko 15 do osam i otvaranja istog u kancelariji oko 9, sve je vraćeno na staro i ponovo imam "normalan" jahu inboks sa tabovima na svim mojim nalozima. Da li je moguće da je revolt proste raje bio toliki da se Jahu popišmanio???

Barbarin

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #14 on: 10-10-2013, 11:28:17 »
Špijunirali su te pa su ti udovoljili zahtevima, ne žele da te nerviraju da ne bi podigao neku bunu ;)
Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #15 on: 10-10-2013, 12:01:46 »
Ma, to je sasvim u redu. Očekujem da me špijuniraju pa onda bar da nešto od toga i dobijem.

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #16 on: 05-03-2015, 10:15:19 »
Glas razuma je danas sve teže čuti, ali evo:


Five truly insane UX/interface trends





Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #17 on: 09-07-2015, 09:31:58 »
Smislene opservacije i razumne sugestije:



UI Fail: How Our User Interfaces Help to Ruin Lives



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A couple of months ago, in Seeking Anecdotes Regarding "Older" Persons' Use of Web Services, I asked for stories and comments regarding experiences that older users have had with modern Web systems, with an emphasis on possible problems and frustrations.
I purposely did not define "older" -- with the result that responses arrived from users (or regarding users) self-identifying as ages ranging from their 30s to well into their 90s (suggesting that "older" is largely a point of view rather than an absolute).
Response rates were much higher than I had anticipated, driven significantly by the gracious endorsement of my survey by Leo Notenboom of ASK LEO!, who went out on a limb and assured his large readership that I was not some loony out to steal their personal information.
Before I began the survey I had some preconceived notions of how the results would appear. Some of these were proven correct, but overall the responses also contained many surprises, often both depressing and tragic in scope.
I had not anticipated the amount of details -- and in particular of highly personal details -- that would arrive in these surveys.
It was immediately obvious that many of these respondents were long frustrated by these issues, and viewed the survey as finally an opportunity to get these concerns off their chests. Much of what they described was heartbreaking.
What was perhaps most surprising was that a deep data dive was not necessary to see the common themes -- they stuck out like a sore thumb from the very first responses onward.
And many of the problems cited are solely our faults, our responsibilities, our shame.
Responses poured in both as first-person reports and as testimonials by family, friends, caregivers, and other persons acting as "tech support" (often remote tech support) for older users.
Any stereotypes about "older" users were quickly quashed.
While some of the users had indeed never had much computer experience, a vast number of responses involved highly skilled, technologically-savvy individuals -- often engineers themselves -- who had helped build the information age but now felt themselves being left behind by Web designers who simply don't seem to care about them at all.
While issues of privacy and security were frequently mentioned in responses, as were matters relating to fundamental service capabilities, issues and problems relating to user interfaces themselves were by far the dominant theme.
Some of these were obvious.
There is enormous, widespread frustration with the trend toward low-contrast interfaces and fonts, gray fonts on gray backgrounds and all the rest. Pretty, but unreadable to many with aging eyes (and keep in mind, visual acuity usually begins to drop by the time we've started our 20s).
Many respondents noted that screen magnifiers can't help in such situations -- they just end up with a big low-contrast blob rather than a small low-contrast blob.
But then we really get into the deeper nitty-gritty of UI concerns. It's a long and painful list.
Hidden menus. Obscure interface elements (e.g., tiny upside-down arrows). Interface and menu elements that only appear if you've moused over a particular location on the display. Interface elements that are so small or ephemeral that they can be a challenge to click even if you still have the motor skills of youth. The list goes on and on.
And beyond this, there is even more frustration with what's viewed as undocumented and unnecessary changes in interfaces.
For a user with fading memory (another attribute that begins to surface relatively early in life) the sudden change of an icon from a wrench to a gear, or a change in a commonly used icon's position, can trigger such frustration that users who could most benefit from these systems -- especially for basic communications -- become embarrassed and, not wanting to ask for help, give up and withdraw back into deadly isolation.
These were by far the most repeated themes in responses -- concerns regarding the rapid and seemingly arbitrary changes of hard to find, see, and click UI elements and associated menu/command functionalities.
The frustration of caregivers in these contexts was palpable.
They'd teach an older user how to use a key service like Web-based mail to communicate with their loved ones, only to discover that a sudden UI change caused them to give up in frustration and not want to try again. When the caregiver isn't local the situation is even worse. While remote access software has proven a great boon in such situations, they're often too complex for the user to set up or fix by themselves when something goes wrong, remaining cut off until the caregiver is back in their physical presence.
I could go on, but you get the idea. With subtle variations in details, I was seeing the same sad stories over and over again as I poured through the survey responses.
We have failed a user population that not only needs our services but for whom our communication services -- including social media -- can make sometimes critical improvements in their lives, especially in helping them not withdraw into isolated oblivion.
We could argue about the motivations, history, and policies that brought us to this current state of affairs, but I'm much more interested in solutions.
So I have a modest suggestion.
I would like to see major Web services commit themselves to the proposition of providing optional and easily enabled "basic interfaces" to their main services, alongside the existing "primary" interfaces.
We're not talking "dumbed-down" interfaces here. We're talking about UIs that feature clear menus, obvious and easy to click icons, and most importantly, that would be supported for important functionalities for significantly longer periods of time than the rapidly evolving primary interfaces themselves.
This is most assuredly not a question of halting innovation, but rather of respecting the differing needs of different users at various stages of their lives.
And frankly, I suspect that "basic" interfaces as described would be widely welcomed by significant numbers of users irrespective of their ages.
I have some detailed thoughts on how such basic interfaces might be structured and deployed vis-a-vis primary interfaces, but I won't bore you with that here.
What's important right now is that we commit ourselves to the proposition that we need to better serve all users, and that our current largely one-size-fits-all user interface methodologies are actively working against this crucial concept.
Thankfully, accomplishing this doesn't require any artificial intelligence breakthroughs or rocket science. It requires only that we agree that these users are important and that we allocate reasonable resources toward these solutions.
As an industry, we seem to be great at coming up with high-end services to better serve the young and elite.
It's time that we put the same efforts into better serving everyone else as well.
--Lauren--

Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #18 on: 24-03-2017, 09:12:14 »
Dis is egzakli vot ajm toking abaut:


Dakle, Gugl je "utvrdio" da se opcije u Chrome browseru: "close all tabs to the right" i "close other tabs" koriste "retko" pa izgleda da će da ih izbace iz narednih verzija brauzera. Jer, zašto ostaviti udobnost na raspolaganju manjem broju naprednijih korisnika kada ta udobnost hipotetički većem broju korisnika... nisam siguran šta... smeta? Natrpava im right click menu opcijama koje ih zbunjuju i plaše?

Da bude jasno: Chrome neće izgubiti ovu funkcionalnost, u članku koji sam linkovao ima objašnjenje da će i dalje to moći da se uradi koristeći tastaturu i više poteza nego do sada, dakle mehanika ostaje, samo se jednostavna i korisna komanda izbacuje iz interfejsa, DAKLE, ne radi se o pojednostavljenju koda da bi brauzer radio brže nego o UX filozofiji koja insistira da korisnik koji nešto trenutno ne koristi sigurno nikada neće ni da ga koristi...


Spojler alrt: ne koristim Chrome, već Firefox u kome ove komande povremeno budu veoma korisne.

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #19 on: 24-03-2017, 11:01:06 »
Nek stave to u ekstenziju, pa nek instalira kome treba.


Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #21 on: 22-12-2017, 06:26:40 »


Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #23 on: 15-08-2019, 08:29:09 »
Čuli smo već za firme koje ohrabruju svoje zaposlene da umesto da tegle sa sobom kartice kojima se otvaraju vrata u zgradi po osnovu različitih nivoa autorizacije, lepo ugrade u ruku mikročip pa će moći mahanjem da otvaraju vrata. Dekadentno i antiutopijski, by all means, ali evo sad inženjerke koja je samoinicijativno u svoju ruku ugradila čip kojim pokreće svoj automobil:


A Tesla owner implanted the RFID chip from her Model 3’s keycard into her arm

Naravno, daleko od toga da kritikujem nečiji životni stil itd. ali ne samo da će morati da opet seče ruku da izvadi lip kad bud eprodala/ promenila auto, nego i ovo znači da ne može nikom da pozajmi "ključeve" ako je to potrebno itd...

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« Reply #24 on: 15-08-2019, 09:17:00 »
Ne znači. Nisam čitao, ali nije daleko od pameti da postoji nekakva administracija. Možeš da dodaš druge čipove, oduzmeš stare, samo ako imaš admin nalog.

Meho Krljic

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Re: interfejsi interfejsi
« Reply #25 on: 15-08-2019, 09:22:24 »
Da, blisko je pameti, slažem se.

Što me dovodi do druge stavke: bezbednost. Sad ne moraju da ti fizički ukradu ključ da bi ti ukrali kola, pa čak ni da ti odseku ruku, nego da ti provale šifru za admin nalog i time da ti potpuno spreče pristup kolima.