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Zivaslanina

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #51 on: 20-11-2017, 16:04:10 »
I like how Nate Murray is beekeeper  :)

Meho Krljic

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #52 on: 21-11-2017, 08:43:55 »
Bitkoin pregazio granicu od 8000 dolara. Izgleda da je ono posrtanje od pre neki dan bilo vrlo privremeno.


Bitcoin Soars Past $8,000

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #53 on: 22-11-2017, 08:50:11 »
Al zato su tu druge kriptovalute da vam uzmu (pravi) novac i nestanu:

An Ethereum Startup Just Vanished After People Invested $374K

Meho Krljic

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #54 on: 28-11-2017, 08:50:25 »

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« Reply #55 on: 29-11-2017, 08:53:56 »

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #56 on: 30-11-2017, 15:32:28 »
Vrednost Bitcoina je u međuvremena prebacila 10.000 dolara. Evo kolumne u Forbsu koja veli:

Bitcoin's Enormous Price Rise Exposes The Irrational Beliefs Of Investors

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #57 on: 05-12-2017, 08:50:03 »


Meho Krljic

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #59 on: 08-12-2017, 08:52:10 »
Heh... naslov je malo hiperboličan ali ukazuje na činjenicu da današnje bitkoin kopanje troši zastrašujuću količinu struje.

Bitcoin could cost us our clean-energy future

Аксентије Новаковић

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #60 on: 18-12-2017, 10:08:57 »
EU uvodi pravila kojima želi srušiti anonimnost korištenja Bitcoina

Zbog činjenice kako Bitcoin nije pod kontrolom banaka i vlasti, a često se koristi i u kriminalne svrhe, EU želi ukinuti anonimnost koja okružuje transakcije ove kriptovalute.

Nova pravila usvojena su u petak od strane Europskog Parlamenta i Europskog Vijeća, a dijelom su veće akcije koja obuhvaća i prepaid kartice te zaklade. Dogovor oko ovog plana trebao bi biti proveden kao zakon unutar 18 mjeseci u svim članicama EU.

Kada zakon stupi na snagu, od platformi koje se koriste kao mjenjačnice i elektronski novčanici, zahtijevat će se identifikacija klijenata. Ovime se želi spriječiti izbjegavanje plaćanja poreza, pranje novca i financiranje terorizma, tvrde iz EU.

Kriptovalute zasad još uvijek funkcioniraju više ili manje anonimno, što je i dovelo do njihovog korištenja za ilegalne aktivnosti, poput trgovine drogom, oružjem ili izbjegavanja plaćanja poreza. S druge strane, mnogi su podržali korištenje kriptovaluta zbog činjenice da su one decentralizirana metoda plaćanja neovisna o vlastima i bankama.

Zbog nagle ekspanzije vrijednosti Bitcoina, mnogi strahuju da bi čitava stvar mogla jednostavno puknuti jedan dan, te da bi to moglo dovesti do novog financijskog kraha ulagača u kriptovalute.

http://tribun.hr/eu-uvodi-pravila-kojima-zeli-srusiti-anonimnost-koristenja-bitcoina/


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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #61 on: 18-12-2017, 10:31:57 »
Da, videćemo kako će se to dalje odvijati. Naravno, bitcoin je samo jedna od kriptovaluta, ali je i najpoznatija. Ovo bi moglo da ima zanimljive posledice na celu "scenu". Mada je blokčejn tehnologija zanimljiva i u drugim oblastima, ne samo u finansijama, recimo:


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/07/ups-dives-into-blockchain-technology.html

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #62 on: 21-12-2017, 06:17:27 »

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #63 on: 21-12-2017, 07:42:15 »
Jel probao neko Steemit? Ja sam za nekih 20ak dana poluaktivnog ucesca dosegao account value od 700 dolara, od cega pretvorih jedan deo steema u bitcoin i pazarih sebi Elder Scroll Online Clockwork city DLC.

Inace zajednica je vrhunska, od pisaca, gejmera, strip crtaca pa do kripto strucnjaka i forenzicara.

Ako nekog zanima ja cu pisati vise, mozete procitati ovde pomalo o svemu a nadam se da ce neko i da se pojavi tamo jer sad je pravi trenutak (nema mnogo korisnika)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steemit

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #64 on: 21-12-2017, 11:05:07 »
пиши више :) мене веома интересује.
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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #66 on: 21-12-2017, 20:00:57 »
пиши више :) мене веома интересује.
Dejane brate, evo još malo. Ako krenem da objašnjavam sistem, samo ću te zbuniti pošto i ja učim. Elem ovo bi moglo da prilično pomogne...

https://steemit.com/steemit/@freefolk/ultimate-beginners-guide-to-steemit

https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf

Elem, ja ti mogu reći da sam bio skeptičan, ali ljudi tj zajednica je fenomenalna. Imaju i discord kanale,  koje sam uvek prezirao kad su MMORPGovi u pitanju, ali ovo je čak i solo igraču kao meni baš postalo zabavno. Obavezno otvori nalog i probaj, postoji i srpska zajednica koja je malobrojna ali takođe jako prijatna.

Najbolje svega je što je ovo sve u povoju. To može biti next big thing, ali i ne mora. U svakom slučaju ne košta apsolutno ništa, a usput je i zabavno. I javi ako otvoriš nalog...mogućnosti tamo ima bezbroj...ljudi uzmu kintu na razne stvari, pa tako ni mehana ništa ne košta da postavlja svoj čuveni mehmet igra serijal, a da ne govorim kako bi tek mogli da razvaljuju ugly i scordisk sa svojim radovima...

Meho Krljic

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #67 on: 22-12-2017, 12:18:39 »
The Bitcoin Boom: In Code We Trust



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You don’t need brilliant financial analysis skills to notice that Bitcoin is in a bubble. It has grown in value from about 39 cents to over $18,000 in just eight years and recently attracted broad media attention by doubling in just a few days. The conventional wisdom had been that illegal and illicit transactions — buying drugs or transferring money out of Argentina — accounted for much of Bitcoin’s value. Today the mainstream view sees mere greed and speculation.
Yet as Bitcoin continues to grow, there’s reason to think something deeper and more important is going on. Bitcoin’s rise may reflect, for better or worse, a monumental transfer of social trust: away from human institutions backed by government and to systems reliant on well-tested computer code. It is a trend that transcends finance: In our fear of human error, we are putting an increasingly deep faith in technology.
Bitcoin may be in a bubble, but not all bubbles are created equal. Some are shimmering nothings, reflecting little more than an underlying pyramid scheme. But others are like ocean swells that could become enormous waves. Consider the tech stocks of the late 1990s — a bubble, to be sure, but in retrospect, was Amazon really overvalued?
What gives the Bitcoin bubble significance is that, like ’90s tech, it is part of something much larger than itself. More and more we are losing faith in humans and depending instead on machines. The transformation is more obvious outside of finance. We trust in computers to fly airplanes, help surgeons cut into our bodies and simplify daily tasks, like finding our way home. In this respect, finance is actually behind: Where we no longer feel we can trust people, we let computer code take over.
Bitcoin is part of this trend. It was, after all, a carnival of human errors and misfeasance that inspired the invention of Bitcoin in 2009, namely, the financial crisis. Banks backed by economically powerful nations had been the symbol of financial trustworthiness, the gold standard in the post-gold era. But they revealed themselves as reckless, drunk on other people’s money, holding extraordinarily complex assets premised on a web of promises that were often mutually incompatible. To a computer programmer, the financial system still looks a lot like untested code with weak debugging that puts way too much faith in the idea that humans will behave properly. As with any bad software, it can be expected to crash when conditions change.
We might add that major governments — the issuers of currency, the guarantors of banks and enforcers of contracts — do not always inspire confidence. Governments can be tempted to print money recklessly or seize wealth brazenly from their citizens — Venezuelan hyperinflation and Indian demonetization are recent examples. But even the most trusted governments can be dubious. Europe, riddled by internal struggles among states, is still in shock about the planned departure of Britain from the European Union. China is a secretive authoritarian state that can lash out against its citizens and rivals when it feels insecure. The United States, perhaps the main guarantor of world solvency, is some $20 trillion in debt, constantly on the verge of default and headed by a serial bankruptee who prizes unpredictability. It is little wonder that the world’s citizens might be looking for alternatives.
Bitcoin’s fans don’t entirely distrust human institutions. It is rather that they’d prefer not to need to trust humans to keep their promises, when we know that we humans are deeply fallible. That might seem cynical, but perhaps it is appropriately humble. As Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym for the person or persons who invented Bitcoin, puts it, “the root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that’s required to make it work.”
This all helps explain the popularity of Bitcoin as an asset independent of government, mainstream banks and their various shenanigans. But still, is it really worth anything at all? It is based on a “blockchain,” a technology that creates a decentralized public ledger and rigorously tracks transfers. It is maintained by its users, and no government can mint more coins. Bitcoin isn’t backed by any sovereign, and unlike a stock or a bond, it gives you a claim to nothing other than Bitcoin itself. Yet that illusory quality is true of most forms of money, a shared hallucination that we tolerate as long as it works. If enough others value something, that can be enough to make it serve as a store of value. Sure, Bitcoin will crash again, but over its lifetime, it has already withstood multiple crashes, runs and splits. It actually feels tested.
This isn’t to idealize Bitcoin. Despite its virtual nature, it is still a human institution, facing its own misdeeds and governance problems. Odds are that Bitcoin may never function well as a general medium of exchange (something you can buy things with) because of its wild fluctuations, but might work fine as a store of value that you can sell. It may, like Netscape circa 1995, be portending changes to come. But Bitcoin has captured something. As much as we may love other humans, it is now in code we trust.


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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #69 on: 26-12-2017, 11:01:39 »
хвала хиддене - пријавио сам се, наравно...и управо сам добио одобрење. иначе мене занима блокчејн технологија, тиме и све њене примене мимо криптовалута.
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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #70 on: 29-12-2017, 07:49:59 »
Ehej...drago mi je bas. Neka, dobro je da nas ima...ako imas neke resurse o blokceinu da preporucis generalno, bio bih ti zahvalan...




Meho Krljic

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #74 on: 19-01-2018, 06:39:15 »
Tržipte kriptovaluta se ozbiljno potreslo poslednjih par dana. Niko ne zna zašto, neki se zlurado smeju i kažu da to mjehur konačno puca, drugi kažu da se ne sekirate jer bitkojn i dalje vredi ohoho. Videćemo:
 
 
 Bitcoin drops below $10K after three days of cryptocurrency correction

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #75 on: 19-01-2018, 12:14:50 »
Kriptovaluta je još jedna u nizu prevara da se određeni krug ljudi obogati na lakovernosti masa koje žele leba bez motike.

Kod takvih masovnih prevara treba biti u vrhu lanca ishrane i ne biti mnogo alav. Znam ljude koji su na onim piramidalnim sranjima devedesetih zgrnuli stotine hiljada DEM jer su počeli odmah i izašli na privi nagoveštaj nagoveštaja problema... prvi put kad neki od posrednika u bilo kom selu nije imao da isplati kamatu nekome, to je znak da je kraj počeo.
Sa ovim kriptovalutama je ista stvar, sad će naučnici da objašnjavaju ovo ili ono, ali ko se namako para, namako se... preostali mogu samo da gledaju da im gubitak bude što manji.

evo, pre nekih pet meseci, jedan moj poznanik odvojio komp za majning... i priča da za ceo mesec nije uspeo da iščeprka četvrt dolara, a prethodnih je prebacivao kriptodolar mesečno ladno. Ja sam mu odmah rekao da je to najava kraja, jer se rudarenje toliko proširilo da predviđeni broj dolara koji bogati bacaju nama sirotinji je konačan, a brojnost alave sirotinje nepregledna.
Put ćemo naći ili ćemo ga napraviti.

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #76 on: 19-01-2018, 12:23:12 »
Pa, da, ko je krenuo sa majningom pre 5-6 godina, taj se sad smeška, ali danas toliko ima majnera da deluje da je kod bitkoina definitivno prošo voz.

Boban

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #77 on: 19-01-2018, 12:31:16 »
Ali uvek je tako. Bogati sede i smišljaju načine da uzimaju sirotinji pare i kad ih drugi provale, fora se proširi i samim tim uruši, a bogati smisle nešto drugo.
Osnovna stvar: poker nije izmišljen da dronjavac sa 100 dolara uzme trojici pare koji imaju po 10000 nego upravo obrnuto, da oni njemu uzmu njegovih 100 dolara. Sve vreme se priča o pokeru, blefiranju i tome kako se lako otima lova lovanima... uvek je tako i oduvek. Kažu da je piramidalno mažnjavanje love krenulo iz Austrougarske u XIX veku i da od tada NEPREKIDNO traje podržano od inicijalne ekipe koja se šeta po svetu i stalno nalazi nove i nove zemlje gde će šišati budale.
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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #78 on: 19-01-2018, 12:52:15 »
"Bitkoin ili nebitkoin, pitanje je sada", reče Hamlet.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #79 on: 19-01-2018, 12:59:33 »
Štiglic  je jasan:
Nobel winner says bitcoin 'ought to be outlawed'
"Despite all their radical rhetoric, Krugman and Stiglitz are — where it really counts — nothing but die-hard mainstream neoclassical economists. Just like Milton Friedman, Robert Lucas or Greg Mankiw."

https://rwer.wordpress.com/2017/11/18/why-krugman-and-stiglitz-are-no-real-alternatives-to-mainstream-economics-2/

Neoliberalism everywhere!
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scallop

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #80 on: 19-01-2018, 13:05:11 »
Rekoh ja da je neoliberalizam glavni savremeni lopovizam.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #81 on: 21-01-2018, 14:27:57 »


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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #83 on: 04-02-2018, 07:53:51 »
Ko je prodo - prodo, ostali se sad verovatno žderu:
  Bitcoin extends freefall as over $50bn is wiped off its value in just a week


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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #85 on: 03-03-2018, 06:30:07 »

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« Reply #86 on: 12-03-2018, 15:45:06 »

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #87 on: 22-03-2018, 08:49:27 »



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scallop

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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #91 on: 25-04-2018, 10:19:57 »
Kad lopovluk dopre do bilo koje vrednosti, opet ćemo da zakopavamo pare u ćupove.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.



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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #94 on: 23-06-2018, 08:34:34 »
Ako se WWIII bude vodio zbog sumnjivog dolara, zbog ove kockarske izmišljotine bi nekog trebalo tući.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

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Re: Kriptovalute
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Re: Kriptovalute
« Reply #98 on: 16-08-2018, 07:57:30 »
Bitcoin, Ether Sink as ‘Sense of Panic’ Grips Crypto Investors

Volim kako se ovde priča o "investitorima" - kao da je u pitanju nekakav biznis koji će se razviti ako bude dobio dovoljno kapitala - a ne o pukim špekulantima koji bi da kupe jeftino a prodaju skupo  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: