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Title: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: zakk on 01-12-2009, 10:19:57
Meat grown in laboratory in world first
Scientists have managed to grow a form of meat in a laboratory for the first time, according to reports.

Published: 9:10AM GMT 29 Nov 2009

(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftelegraph%2Fmultimedia%2Farchive%2F01423%2Fmeat_1423513c.jpg&hash=82f61615e76fedd37e887c6f0aa637eca051cc01)
Vegetarian groups say there was "no ethical objection" if meat was not a piece of a dead animal. Photo: GETTY

Researchers in the Netherlands created what was described as soggy pork and are now investigating ways to improve the muscle tissue in the hope that people will one day want to eat it.

No one has yet tasted their produce, but it is believed the artificial meat could be on sale within five years.

Vegetarian groups welcomed the news, saying there was "no ethical objection" if meat was not a piece of a dead animal.

Mark Post, professor of physiology at Eindhoven University, told The Sunday Times: "What we have at the moment is rather like wasted muscle tissue. We need to find ways of improving it by training it and stretching it, but we will get there.

"This product will be good for the environment and will reduce animal suffering. If it feels and tastes like meat, people will buy it.

"You could take the meat from one animal and create the volume of meat previously provided by a million animals."

The scientists extracted cells from the muscle of a live pig and then put them in a broth of other animal products. The cells then multiplied and created muscle tissue. They believe that it can be turned into something like steak if they can find a way to artificially "exercise" the muscle.

The project is backed by the Dutch government and a sausage maker and comes following the creation of artificial fish fillets from goldfish muscle cells.

Meat produced in a laboratory could reduce greenhouse gas emissions associated with real animals.

Meat and dairy consumption is predicted to double by 2050 and methane from livestock is said to currently produce about 18 per cent of the world's greenhouse gases.

Animal rights group Peta said: "As far as we're concerned, if meat is no longer a piece of a dead animal there's no ethical objection."

However the Vegetarian Society said: "The big question is how could you guarantee you were eating artificial flesh rather than flesh from an animal that had been slaughtered.

"It would be very difficult to label and identify in a way that people would trust."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6680989/Meat-grown-in-laboratory-in-world-first.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6680989/Meat-grown-in-laboratory-in-world-first.html)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: scallop on 01-12-2009, 11:46:31
"You could take the meat from one animal and create the volume of meat previously provided by a million animals."
The scientists extracted cells from the muscle of a live pig and then put them in a broth of other animal products. The cells then multiplied and created muscle tissue.


I cela buka zbog vegetarijanaca! :cry:

Ni Isus nije mogao od jedne svinje da napravi milion svinja! Naravno, uzećemo svinjske stem ćelije, pa ćemo da ih hranimo gradivnim materijama "hranljivih rastvora" načinjenih od milion svinja priklanih humano, košer. Da bi od kilo mesa napravili milion kila mesa trebaće im trista grama mesa. Ovo je priča za Lord Kufera i tezu o "ludim naučnicima". Mislim, pre o ludim potrošačima koji će na ovu perpetuum mobile priču da nasednu. Ni od soje nisu napravili dobru šniclu. Mentalna patologija će nas odmah uputiti na "Soylent Green" i Čarltona Hestona. Zdravo rasuđivanje na pitanje da li tanjir nafte sa 3000 kcal može da zameni dva tanjira pasulja sa slaninicom. Paranoja na teoriju zavere.

Nije da ne verujem da je to moguće. Čak, znam da jeste. Moja ćerka je pre 16 godina imala prirast odbačene posteljice in vitro. Tada su joj se motale po glavi ideje o "bazi organa", što je danas bliska stvarnost. Ali, jedno je potrošiti 100 kila svinjetine za jednu ljudsku džigericu koja će se replantirati u slučaju da je pacijent preterao sa šljemanjem, a kozja surutka nije pomogla, a drugo, od milion kila svijetine  - jednu svinjsku šniclu. Dakle, ostaje samo teorija zavere. :x
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Lord Kufer on 01-12-2009, 13:38:37
Jamajčani su imali svinje, koje su jele sve što im daš i sve je bilo u redu.
Onda su svinje izumrle zbog nepoznatog razloga.
Jamajčani su kupili Monsantove svinje.
Monsantove svinje su jele samo Monsantovu hranu za svinje.
Monsantova hrana za svinje bila je skuplja od Monsantove svinje.
Monsanto se obogatio.
Jamajčani su izumrli.

Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Cornelius on 01-12-2009, 15:56:53
Quote from: scallop on 01-12-2009, 11:46:31
Zdravo rasuđivanje na pitanje da li tanjir nafte sa 3000 kcal može da zameni dva tanjira pasulja sa slaninicom.

Moze, ali samo kod onih koji su milijunasi, jer je nafte sve manje, pa ce biti i sve skuplja. Snicla od nafte kao eksterni znak blagostanja! Sirotinja, kao i uvek, jede prost pasulj sadjen u zemlji i bran rukom ili robotom (u SF varijanti).
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: sivka on 11-12-2009, 09:19:22
"You could take the meat from one animal and create the volume of meat previously provided by a million animals."
Animal rights group Peta said: "As far as we're concerned, if meat is no longer a piece of a dead animal there's no ethical objection."
Koje licemerje... pu pu pu ...
Ajd maznemo jednu živuljku za dobrobit ostalih i pravićemo se da to nije meso.
Poenta je u poenti.

Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Usul on 11-03-2010, 20:38:34
A tu smo na korak od kloniranja organa ili celih ljudskih jedinki.
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: angel011 on 13-03-2010, 19:51:34
"if meat is no longer a piece of dead animal there's no ethical objection"

Super, u redu je naživo seckati i seckati životinju.
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: scallop on 13-03-2010, 20:03:53
Sve je na mestu. Salatu jedemo naživo. Iseckamo je i na žive rane stavimo so i sirće. Vegetarijanci su ethical.
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Loni on 22-06-2010, 23:22:29
   Ako bi se jednom i proizvelo tako nešto, pitanje je kolika bi to usluga bila životinjama jer neke vrste i postoje samo zbog mesa.
   Svinje su namnožene u milijardama zbog toga, a bez te potrebe njih broj će se smanjiti upravo milijardu puta.
   Biće ih 5 u svakom zoo vrtu sveta i to je to.

   Da l su onda svinaj na dobitku il... ?
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Mark on 22-06-2010, 23:59:30
A slanina, slanina forever!
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: zakk on 23-02-2011, 18:11:58
http://singularityhub.com/2011/02/23/first-planned-taste-test-for-artificial-meat-is-probably-doomed/ (http://singularityhub.com/2011/02/23/first-planned-taste-test-for-artificial-meat-is-probably-doomed/)

Damn!
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: дејан on 22-06-2011, 13:59:51
А сада нешто сасвим другачије...ако не може вештачко може фекално!

Solution to the Global Food Crisis - Let them eat TURD BURGERS!? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1N6QfuIh0g#ws)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Gaff on 29-04-2013, 20:09:50

3D štampači sada već i jetru naprave (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23419-3d-printer-makes-tiniest-human-liver-ever.html?cmpid=RSS%7CNSNS%7C2012-GLOBAL%7Conline-news)

(za početak je dovoljno)

via New Scientist



3D printer makes world's smallest human liver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUO0xXF3W8o#)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Alexdelarge on 30-04-2013, 00:07:08
dobra vest za alkoholičare!
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Gaff on 08-06-2013, 18:42:00

Schmeat-pljeskavica (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/06/06/technology-schmeat-in-vitro-meat-burger.html)

via CBC News

Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: scallop on 08-06-2013, 18:48:02
Shit meat?
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Gaff on 13-06-2013, 14:16:46
Quote from: scallop on 08-06-2013, 18:48:02
Shit meat?

Tačno! Zato što se sranje na engleskom piše sa "sch".
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: scallop on 13-06-2013, 14:28:55
Kad ti kažeš.
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Gaff on 13-06-2013, 14:32:11
Kažem.
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Truba on 13-06-2013, 17:44:13
zašto ne naprave drvo ili naftu iz laboratorije  :idea: :idea: :idea:
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2017, 08:49:47
Hampton Creek is now growing its own meat in labs—and it says it will get to stores first (https://qz.com/1015757/vegan-mayo-startup-hampton-creek-is-producing-lab-made-meat-and-it-wants-to-sell-in-walmart-wmt-and-whole-foods-wfm/)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 16-06-2019, 07:42:37
Move Over, Impossible Burger: Lab-Grown Meat Will Overtake Plants by 2040 (https://www.inverse.com/article/56704-move-over-impossible-burger-lab-grown-meat-will-overtake-plants-by-2040)

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The research, from consultancy firm AT Kearney (https://www.atkearney.com/retail/article/?%2Fa%2Fhow-will-cultured-meat-and-meat-alternatives-disrupt-the-agricultural-and-food-industry=), finds that meat grown in a lab from cells will ultimately become more popular than vegetarian food that replicates the taste of animal products. By then, most of the world's burgers will be entirely meat-free.

Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 12-07-2019, 08:42:31
The $280,000 lab-grown burger could be a more palatable $10 in two years (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-food-tech-labmeat/the-280000-lab-grown-burger-could-be-a-more-palatable-10-in-two-years-idUSKCN1U41W8)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Boban on 12-08-2019, 12:54:10
Ovo bi trebalo da bude ukusno...
https://positivetruenews.com/2019/08/10/worlds-first-ever-human-monkey-hybrid-grown-in-lab-in-china/?fbclid=IwAR1VwCwNe7XqZGT0FivFWLOPjNy17CJkCm4NwQKWQIS8sOCbNXvgk-65_rM (https://positivetruenews.com/2019/08/10/worlds-first-ever-human-monkey-hybrid-grown-in-lab-in-china/?fbclid=IwAR1VwCwNe7XqZGT0FivFWLOPjNy17CJkCm4NwQKWQIS8sOCbNXvgk-65_rM)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 31-10-2019, 07:12:41
Lab cultured 'steaks' grown on an artificial gelatin scaffold (https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/28/lab-cultured-steaks-scaffold-gelatin/?guccounter=1)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 19-12-2019, 08:56:33
Cultured or cell-based? The struggle to find the right name for lab-grown meat (https://qz.com/1767441/cultured-or-cell-based-the-struggle-to-name-lab-grown-meat/)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 06-12-2020, 08:20:33
   I tried the world's first no-kill, lab-grown chicken burger  (https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/dec/04/no-kill-lab-grown-chicken-burger-restaurant-israel) 
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 19-11-2022, 07:37:38
Lab-grown meat is OK for human consumption, FDA says  (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/17/health/fda-lab-meat-cells-scn-wellness/index.html)
Title: Re: Dogodilo se! Meso iz laboratorije!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 26-03-2023, 07:28:28
Isto to samo za drugu firmu:

FDA clears lab-grown chicken as safe to eat (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/good-meat-lab-grown-chicken-safe-to-eat-fda/)