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Meho Krljic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #550 on: 19-02-2020, 08:47:35 »
Uber, Lyft i takote ridesharing platforme koji nisu taksi kad treba da se plate porez i doprinosi ali jesu taksi u svim ostalim aspektima, su imale viziju da će smanjiti zagušenost urbanih saobraćajnica. Zašto? Ne znam, ali tako su pričali njihovi glasogovornici početkom decenije. Naravno, kao i sa svakim deregulisanim biznisom koji eksploatiše prekarijat, i gde neminovno nastupa trka ka dnu (kroz uštede i prebacivanje troškova na druge), dobili smo sasvim suprotan rezultat: gužvu.


The Ride-Hail Utopia That Got Stuck in Traffic

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Five years ago, Travis Kalanick was so confident that Uber Technologies Inc.'s rides would prompt people to leave their cars at home that he told a tech conference: "If every car in San Francisco was Ubered there would be no traffic."
 Today, a mounting collection of studies shows the opposite: Far from easing traffic, Uber and its main rival Lyft Inc. are adding to congestion in numerous U.S. downtowns.



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 Most users take their own private Lyfts and Ubers, shunning pooling even though it costs them more. Rather than the apps becoming a model of algorithm-driven efficiency, drivers in major cities cruise for fares without passengers an estimated 40% of the time.
 Multiple studies show that Uber and Lyft have pulled people away from buses, subways and walking, and that the apps add to the overall amount of driving in the U.S.



 A study published last year by San Francisco County officials and University of Kentucky researchers in the journal Science Advances found that over 60% of the slowdown of traffic speeds in San Francisco between 2010 and 2016 was due to the introduction of the ride-hail companies.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #551 on: 19-02-2020, 08:59:17 »
Baš neoliberalno: više vozila na ulici smanjuje gužvu u saobraćaju.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #552 on: 13-03-2020, 10:06:17 »
Pošto New Republic ograničava broj pregleda, kopiram ceo tekst.

Conservatives won their war on Big Government. Their prize is a pandemic.


Donald Trump’s televised address to the nation Wednesday night on the coronavirus pandemic failed just about every single test of political rhetoric. It neither reassured the American people nor did it inform them. The markets have continued their dismal tumble, and the White House took the extraordinary step of correcting (or, in Politico parlance, “walking back”) three separate untruths the president managed to deliver, despite seemingly sticking to his prepared remarks.Not that anyone, at this stage, expected the president to rise to the occasion. It has become apparent that Trump and his staff view a pandemic as a messaging problem that threatens to become a liquidity crisis. The idea that they should have stepped in to contain the virus is as foreign to them as the idea that they now bear the primary responsibility for mitigating it.

Congressional testimony earlier this week featured an illuminating exchange between Representative Andy Harris, a Republican and medical doctor, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Harris mainly wanted to use his time questioning the officials who were testifying before Congress to attack a Democratic proposal to lower drug costs for people on Medicare (Harris worries it would stifle “innovation” in the lucrative world of vaccine manufacturing) and to praise the superior ability of the private sector to handle such crises.
The problem, though, was that the private sector hasn’t yet done anything to slow down the virus. “Quest and LabCorp now are geared up to do [coronavirus tests],” Harris asked. “Could they have geared up sooner?”“As a clinician like yourself,” Redfield said in his answer, “I guess I anticipated that the private sector would have engaged and helped develop it for the clinical side.” He finished his response with more bewilderment: “I can tell you, having lived through the last eight weeks, I would have loved the private sector to be fully engaged eight weeks ago.”
Here were two men wondering aloud why reality had failed to conform to their ideology. Where was the private sector, exactly, during these eight weeks? How odd that these companies, whose only responsibility is to their shareholders, had failed to make up for the incompetence of this administration.

Redfield seems to have been selected to run the CDC not only because he was a prominent virologist, which made him appear qualified for the job, but also because of his hard-line politics, which made him qualified to serve in this Republican administration. Even at the time of his appointment, a few experts tried to warn the administration that, as concerning as his dodgy politics were, his complete lack of experience in public health administration was even more disturbing. His politics, as it turns out, matter much more than his expertise when it comes to making a vital agency function.

Redfield wasn’t using his medical experience when he answered the question of whether the United States would be able to set up the sort of mass drive-through tests that South Korea has used to stem the spread of the virus; he was using his politics. “I think we’re trying to maintain the relationship between individuals and their health care providers,” he said.It’s impossible to pin down precisely what led to that answer. Is it ignorance of most Americans’ relationship to the health care system? (A quarter of Americans have no primary care physician, and even among the insured, visits to primary care physicians have been declining for years, in large part due to costs.) Is it an ideological commitment to defending our for-profit health care system? Or is it merely the usual craven tendency of people in this administration to loudly assert into cameras that everything is fine? Soon, it won’t matter. The fantasy that everything is going to be fine is about to run up against an unavoidable reality. The only true answer to the question of when our government will be capable of responding to a pandemic with the vigor and efficiency of South Korea’s is “when we get around to building that government.”

Perhaps another Republican president would’ve handled this differently. President Marco Rubio likely wouldn’t have been so singularly focused on trying to make the TV say things are fine. But after two terms of George W. Bush and three years of President Trump, is there any reason for confidence that Rubio would’ve handled this significantly better?


This is how conservatives govern now, and even eight years of comparatively competent management by a liberal presidential administration was not enough to stem the larger trend of private negligence and public disinvestment. In its 2019 annual report on American public health funding, Trust for America’s Health calculated that “the CDC’s budget fell by 10 percent over the past decade (FY 2010–19), after adjusting for inflation.”

Many Americans seem to still believe we live in a country with functional institutions. Even as broadly defined “trust” in Congress and the government collapsed, this belief persisted: In 2017, with Trump in office, Pew still found that more than 60 percent of Americans believed the government did a good job “protecting the environment and responding to natural disasters.” Indeed, a lot of the conservative project of corrupting or starving government agencies depends on an almost touching belief in the resiliency of the institutions liberalism built in the twentieth century. Even the people dismantling the government probably believed, at some level, that the CDC could effectively address a massive public health crisis even though its new director was unqualified and its budget had declined for years. Despite its grip on power, the conservative movement cannot adapt to the circumstances created by its victory over the state. It didn’t occur to the right that a more terrifying series of words than “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help” would turn out to be “I’m from the government, and I guess I anticipated that the private sector would have engaged.”There is perhaps only one competent and uncorrupted top-ranking official left in the federal government’s public health bureaucracy. The Department of Health and Human Services had its entire email system crash because the secretary is in a fight with the person who is ostensibly in charge of Medicare. The government added millions of masks and respirators to the Strategic National Stockpile in 2009, then forgot about them and forgot to buy more. Five million of the N95 respirators have expired.

In the absence of a functioning federal government, how the crisis plays out will depend in large part on whether you live in a well-managed state or a poorly managed one. In Minnesota, they are beginning curbside testing. California is dipping into its own emergency stockpile of surgical masks and respirators. The response may be less effective in, say, Texas, where, as Christopher Hooks writes in Texas Monthly, the state’s major public health agency worked out of an office full of rats and mold as recently as 2018.


These are all the predictable consequences of giving power to people whose only understanding of the role of government is to protect investment portfolios. A long boom market was seemingly enough to convince the people who check their 401(k) balances regularly that things were more or less fine; that, even if the guy in charge was a clown, the country was resilient and broadly functional. It turns out that, outside of its bloated military and management of the world’s reserve currency, the United States was barely a country at all.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #553 on: 20-03-2020, 21:10:21 »
Više ne znam gde sam započeo da se krljam sa Batom oko neoliberalizma. On je vukao na teorijske početke, a ja na prelomnu tačku kad su se Tačer i Regan opredelili. Sad je sve više sklonih da potvrde moje stavove, pa da podsetim, ako im se učini da su otkrili toplu vodu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #554 on: 24-03-2020, 12:28:10 »
Podsetiću da su SAD imale veliku priliku da smrve neoliberalizam 2008. kad su se zajebale i pale na floskulu "To big to fall."
Slučajno sam na TV N1 video slične vapaje "srpskih vrhunskih privrednika". I Ćulibrk je kao nešto objašnjavao. Bolje pustiti malu privredu da propadne, veliki zapošljavaju većinu. Ako se zajebemo, sami smo krivi.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Nada Dimić

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #555 on: 25-03-2020, 00:54:00 »
Bezos plače i ne da svoje milijarde.  xrofl

Odavno se ovoliko ne ismejah. Damn, šta je ova kriza sve iznela na obalu (da tu i ostavi, naravno).

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-amazon-jeff-bezos-relief-fund-covid-19-billionaire-net-worth-a9422236.html

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #556 on: 25-03-2020, 00:58:34 »
Quote from: a spokesperson with Amazon
"We are not and have not asked for donations and the Amazon Relief Fund has been funded by Amazon with an initial donation of $25 million. The structure to operate a fund like this, which hundreds of companies do through the same third-party, requires the program to be open to public contributions but we are not soliciting those contributions in any way,"

Nada Dimić

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #557 on: 25-03-2020, 01:08:35 »
Nije šija, nego penis. Loooool

Nada Dimić

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #558 on: 25-03-2020, 01:11:53 »
Btw, koliko je cinično osnovati fond za svoje zaposlene? Ti, koji kao poslodavac, treba da zaštitiš svoje ljude, pa i ako to nećeš da uradiš iz solidarnosti, uradi to iz ekonomičnih razloga: trebaće ti ljudi kada se sve završi, biće teško i skupo regrutovati toliko ljudi odjednom da bi održao konkurentnost na tržištu, ti osnivaš fond da im se POMOGNE. Hahahahahah Ovo je ubedljivo najgluplji potez krupnih kapitalista dosad.

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #559 on: 25-03-2020, 02:11:32 »
Nešto mi se čini da reaguješ na osnovu nepotpunih informacija. Ovo nije cinično, nego normalno. Ako smatraš da nije normalno to je zato što imaš nepotpune informacije. Ako ćeš sad da mi objašnjavaš zašto nije normalno džaba to radiš, jer nemaš sve informacije.

Nada Dimić

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #560 on: 25-03-2020, 02:44:02 »
lol zašto mi ne daš sve informacije?

mac

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #561 on: 25-03-2020, 02:58:47 »
Nisam merodavan za davanje informacija.

Nada Dimić

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #562 on: 25-03-2020, 02:59:59 »
daj ne zezaj, dal si realan

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #563 on: 25-03-2020, 10:20:12 »
Jebote, još nismo stabilizovali procedure oko pandemije, a već brinemo o bankarima i poslodavcima. Takvi uvek prvi zakukaju.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #564 on: 26-03-2020, 00:20:38 »
Ne mogu više da prebrojim protivnike neoliberalizma. Vreme je da raspakujem drugi kofer.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #565 on: 08-04-2020, 12:11:55 »
Trump direktno napao Svetsku zdravstvenu organizaciju. Posle napada na više drugih naddržavnih organizacija sve je izvesnije da je Trump protivnik neoliberalizma. Da li će se usuditi protiv kockarske mafije svetskog bankarstva još ne znamo.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #566 on: 08-04-2020, 12:52:53 »
Meni je njegovo kritikovanje SZO za ponašanje u pandemiji bizarno ali dobro, ja sam po prirodi posla pratio SZO od početka pa znam da su bili vrlo aktivni u ovome, nego, više me zanima koji su kriterijumi po kojima SZO smatraš nekakvim simbolom neoliberalizma?

scallop

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« Reply #567 on: 08-04-2020, 13:15:12 »
Ponašaću se kao da te stvarno zanima. Sasvim je svejedno koja nadnacionalna organizacija je u pitanju. Sa pandemijom se oklevalo dok se mislilo da će samo Kina najebati. Gensek UN se pravi blesav dok mu ne narede da bude pametan. MMF nema kriterijume za ponašanje SAD. Antidoping je funkcionalan samo kad treba zajebati fine vitke teniserke, dok robustne Amerikanke niko ne kontroliše. Organizacija za testiranje mladih ima kriterijume koje ne ispunjavamo, ali naši klinci uporno dokazuju suprotno. Bolonja ne važi za Kembridž, Stanford ili MIT. Po specifikacijama EU nećemo moći da proizvodimo ćevape ili rakiju. Nažalost, autoriteta su se domogli brži a ne bolji.


Ako nije dovoljno ubedljivo, žalim slučaj. Meni je neoliberalizam trn u oku otkad sam shvatio da mediji ne odlučuju o medijima, da je kultura stisnuta fokus grupama i da nećemo gledati dobre filmove i serije, ako marketinška očekivanja nisu pozitivna. Ni knjiga ne valja ako nije u očekivanom "trendu". E, pa, za knjigu sam opasno zainteresovan.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #568 on: 08-04-2020, 16:54:00 »
Ne, u redu je to, znamo svi da ne voliš da tržište ima prvu i poslednju reč u domenu kreativnosti ili domenu uređivanja društva i to je u redu, slažemo se. Nego nisam siguran da svaka nadnacionalna struktura automatski upada u neoliberalnu klasu pojava. SZO je radila od Januara na epidemiji COVID-19, imaš ovde prvi SitRep od 21. Januara sa pregledom aktiviranih mehanizama, preporuka itd. tako da je Trampovo kritikovanje SZO običan populizam.

scallop

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #569 on: 08-04-2020, 17:16:19 »
To sam i hteo da kažem. Za divno čudo, Trump nije neoliberal. Zovi ti to populizmom, ja to zovem popularnom neoliberalnom floskulom. I meni svašta pripišu čim im se ne dopadne šta napišem. A istina je tamo gde uobičajeno i jeste. Globalno je zajebalo svet, od "slobodnog protoka ljudi, robe i kapitala" ćorak, a šta nam se piše videćemo. U svakom slučaju, ako su vanzemaljci rekli da će pregovarati samo sa globalnom vladom, ništa ni od toga. Odloženo do daljnjeg.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #570 on: 10-04-2020, 21:08:51 »
Uzgred, kakvo sam ludilo našo. Nači film Beautiful Mind, o matematičaru Nešu, gdje on genije zapravo pati od paranoidne shizofrenije, u kojoj sanja državne agente koji ga proganjaju da im nešto pomaže u Hladnom ratu itd... ispade da Neš stvarno jeste radio za vojsku odnosno Rand korporaciju vezanu za američku avijaciju, na prst u dupe je bio sa cijom, fbijom i ostalom policijom, a film to prikazao kao on ludak halucinira, misim Neš je običan matematičar i te fore (sem što je isto i ekonomista).

Sad gledam, pošto je i Turing isto bio vezan za te militarističke projekte šta su tek uvalili u njegovom filmu Imitation Game, i naravno John von Neumann kao uzor za Dr Strangelove-a i HAL-a u 2001.

Ali ovo da se petljaju u holivudske manipulacije da nedobog neko sazna šta su muljali s ovim jadnim matematičarima što su svi pozavršavali u ludari ili se cijanidom spucali ko Turing, fascinantno. Ima li još filmova o ovome?
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Father Jape

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #571 on: 10-04-2020, 21:20:37 »
Nedostajô si.  :lol:
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #572 on: 10-04-2020, 21:25:50 »
Đesba Đejpe!
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Mica Milovanovic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #573 on: 10-04-2020, 22:31:19 »
Ajd' sad priznaj gde si bio...
Već neko vreme pokušavam da prijateljima objasnim da je "Koronu" izazvao jedan moj prijatelj sa Znaka sagite u trenutku kada je postojala opasnost da ću ga prestići u Fentaziju. Niko mi ne veruje...
Dva boda razlike. Meni ostala tri igrača, pred Sitijevu utakmicu, njemu jedan, koji verovatno ne igra - prestižem ga sigurno...
Kad, ono, međutim...
Ali, mi znamo...
Mica

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #574 on: 10-04-2020, 22:44:21 »
Zvao sam Tešu da se vrati iz Kine, preko Beča, naravno! 8-)
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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #575 on: 10-04-2020, 23:47:37 »
Sta znaci ovo labudan
Da se zabrinem???
Jedini forum na kojem pravim tipkarske grekše

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #576 on: 11-04-2020, 00:30:47 »
Valter, Trokrilni, Pufta, Tigar, Šuger, Gvozden... Labudan!
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Black swan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #577 on: 11-04-2020, 00:44:07 »
Mijenjam.ime u
KRSTASKI BARON
Jedini forum na kojem pravim tipkarske grekše

lilit

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #578 on: 11-04-2020, 10:38:19 »
Nedostajô si.  :lol:

jedan od primera zašto su svi drugi forumi samo forumi, a zašto se sagita voli   xlove5 :mrgreen:
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

lilit

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #579 on: 11-04-2020, 10:39:14 »
Ajd' sad priznaj gde si bio...
Već neko vreme pokušavam da prijateljima objasnim da je "Koronu" izazvao jedan moj prijatelj sa Znaka sagite u trenutku kada je postojala opasnost da ću ga prestići u Fentaziju. Niko mi ne veruje...
Dva boda razlike. Meni ostala tri igrača, pred Sitijevu utakmicu, njemu jedan, koji verovatno ne igra - prestižem ga sigurno...
Kad, ono, međutim...
Ali, mi znamo...

ah. pa bio je sigurno negde gde si i ti bio ranije.  :evil: nas-rofl

ok, ok, prestajem...  :lol:
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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #581 on: 19-04-2020, 23:22:51 »
Neki Australijanac objašnjava ekonomiju i zaduživanje.

https://youtu.be/hlqAM76qq6U

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #582 on: 21-04-2020, 23:15:28 »
eliminišeš kapitaliste i dug prestaje biti problematičan


a eo Nebojša Katić pojašnjava jel korona izazvala krizu ili kriza koronu

https://nkatic.wordpress.com/2020/03/25/a-kada-prode-pandemija-objavljeno-u-dnevniku-politika-od-25-3-2020/
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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #583 on: 22-04-2020, 00:37:30 »
u primjereno nazvanoj knjizi "Devet života neoliberalizma", koju su upravo uploadovali ovdje
https://www.academia.edu/42811311/Nine_Lives_of_Neoliberalism_Verso_book

ni manje ni više nego o neoliberalizmu piše žena Božidara Đelića - Marie Laure Djelic - u pretposljednjem poglavlju. Pitam se jel kritikuje sopstvenog muža.

Deset života neoliberalizma, kako je krenulo.
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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #584 on: 03-05-2020, 00:25:14 »
"The Trap" - What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom - Fuck You Buddy - Episode 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97Ywl7RtUw&vl=en
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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #585 on: 03-05-2020, 00:34:28 »
U prva tri minuta već mislim da su ovo Rusi platili.

Labudan

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« Reply #586 on: 03-05-2020, 00:51:49 »
The Trap: What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom is a BBC television documentary series by English filmmaker Adam Curtis.

Prokleti neoliberali su svuda! Čak i u Rusiji.
Iznenađujuće dobro, bar ova 1. od 3 epizode.
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varvarin

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #587 on: 05-05-2020, 12:23:46 »
https://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2020&mm=05&dd=05&nav_id=1680928


Propali napori sindikata: Fabrika žarište korone se ponovo otvara

...Sindikat je tokom vikenda anketirao više od 600 radnika na četiri jezika - 85 odsto njih je reklo da se boji vraćanja na posao i da ne želi da se fabrika ponovo otvori u ponedeljak.


https://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2020&mm=05&dd=05&nav_id=1680956


"Predsednik se plaši istine": Cena pokretanja ekonomije desetine hiljada života

...Odogovor je nekoliko desetina hiljada ljudskih života koje će bez cenjakanja sa Belom kućom odneti epidemija koronavirusa,
Tramp je, kako ocenjuje CNN, spreman da plati tu cenu bez obzira na upozorenja i otpor za koja ni on ni njegova administracija nemaju dovoljno sluha.

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2020&mm=05&dd=05&nav_category=78&nav_id=1681006


Njujork -- Novi podaci sa Univerziteta u Pensilvaniji ukazuju na to da bi popuštanje restriktivnih mera u SAD moglo da ima ozbiljne posledice po širenje koronavirusa.
Međutim, i parcijalno otvaranje ekonomije izazvaće porast broja preminulih, pokazuju podaci Univerziteta. Prema Vorton budžetskom modelu još dodatnih 45.000 života će biti izgubljeno, čime će broj preminulih u SAD iznositi 222.000. Međutim, politika ponovnog otvaranja država pružila bi potreban ekonomski podsticaj.


KAKO REKOŠE U JEDNOJ STAROJ, DOBROJ, DOMAĆOJ TV-SERIJI: "...I DIVIMO SE NOVOM SVETU, U KOM SE OD LJUBAVI NE ŽIVI!"


Napomenimo da je u Drugom svetskom ratu POGINULO oko 300 000 Amerikanaca (podatak sa Wikipedije).

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #588 on: 05-05-2020, 12:40:33 »
sve više sam mišljenja da neoliberali to i hoće. Ovaj virus im je preslabašan da izguraju par godina vanrednih mjera, moraju ga bustovati kako god znaju i umiju. Šta su sve milijardi tokom korone prebacili ubogim bogatašima, na kraju će ispasti više no 2008.

savršeni virus
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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #589 on: 07-05-2020, 21:18:37 »
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Father Jape

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Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #591 on: 08-05-2020, 16:19:24 »
Sve mi diraj, Nestorovića ne! 8-)

Fino,mada mu zaključak i nije neki. Ti fektčekeri su npr takođe neoliberali, možda i najveći.

A Nestorović je protokomunizam! 8-)
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Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #593 on: 16-05-2020, 18:09:09 »
ovaj lik tako dobro razbucava neoliberale pravo je čudo kako niko drugi ne konta šta se dešava. Dodao bih samo da nije ništa spomenuo šta ovi rade oko informacione tehnologije trenutno, a i tu se nešto kuha, ne vrište džaba na ovaj 5G razni debilčići na netu, ne vjerujem da je to samo da bi izgurali Kineze iz konkurencije već taj 5G zapravo i podupire sve što Mirovski spominje u intervjuu sa long-distance zdravstvenim pregledima ili školovanjem. Ni toga nema bez 5G i ko zna čega još, a ipak je veliko pitanje ko će ga uvoditi u Americi i Evropi, Huawei ili Verizon. Ponajmanje zbog nekog nadzora i skupljanja podataka nego zbog svega, bukvalno internet of everything. Smrt neoliberalizmu, sloboda narodu.
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Meho Krljic

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #594 on: 16-05-2020, 18:44:59 »
Da, mene malo začudi kad se ljudi iznova izleću sa idejama da su krize momenti u kome će se neoliberalizam pokopati jer on, očigledno te krize ne da ne može da reši već je doprineo njihovom razvoju. Mislim, što je tačno, niti može da ih reši jer tržišna rešenja nisu i "ljudska" rešenja, niti je nedužan u njihovom kreiranju (pogotovo vidimo kako je zdravstvo u aktuelnoj pandemiji oslabljeno tržišnim idejama), ali neoliberalna prefriganost je upravo u tome da ne beži od toga da se osloni na netržišna, centralizovana, komandna rešenja da bi i dalje održao farsu o slobodi tržišta a zapravo se bavio neravnopravnom, što je moguće monopolskijom tržišnom igrom. Džef Bezos i Ilon Mask su se obojica dodatno primetno obogatili tokom pandemijske krize koja traje ni ola godine i na putu su da postanu bilioneri.

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #595 on: 16-05-2020, 19:01:12 »
Moguće je da si u pravu, da je pandemija samo pauza i da će se neoliberalizam snaći. Sa druge strane je sasvim moguće da unipolarno tržište, na kome počiva neoliberalizam, gubi osnovnu poziciju, čigra se neće ponovo zavrteti, tako da će kapitalizam morati da sklopi novi dogovor.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #596 on: 16-05-2020, 20:05:37 »
pandemija nije pauza, to je i poenta intervjua, sve između pandemija i kriza su pauze, a sad je ključno, sad ga lome za još 10 godina. Po meni će i uspjeti još ovaj put, naredni put već ne bi moglo, jedino stvarno ako su svi debilčići i ne opamete se

a ti ljudi koji izleću s pričom da je neoliberalizam pokopan su posebna sorta. Ima tako Entoni Gidens koji je 2010. godine napisao "Neoliberalism is dead". A Entoni Gidens je neoliberalčina koja napiše da je neoliberalizam prošlost. Nači, oni sami za sebe lažu da su pokopani.

Sve prokleti fejknjuz na sve strane. Fantastični su lažovi, čak su neki kao Soroš i Gidens uvjereni da oni zapravo nisu neoliberali. Kakav uspjeh prevariti same sebe. Dođe čoek i napiše da je neoliberalizam mrtav i nije ti jasno jel on to stvarno misli glupanderski ili svjesno obmanjuje.

Taj Bezos se kao suprotstavlja Trampu a oni su zapravo ista doktrina. To jest, kao što i Mirovski u intervjuu kaže, Tramp je Rothbardova struja, a mogao je dodati Bezos je neka libertarijanskipaternalizam struja, ali to su obe frakcije unutar neoliberalizma.
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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #597 on: 17-05-2020, 18:10:58 »

Labudan

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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #598 on: 17-05-2020, 18:35:18 »
kaka je ovo propaganda

Vladine intervencije, subvencije i olakšice = pljačka radničke klase

sreća, to je neki neoliberalizam. Kad bi neoliberale pitali kako se bogati, oni bi rekli: inovacija, tržišna disciplina i sreća
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Re: Neoliberalizmi naši nasušni
« Reply #599 on: 19-05-2020, 09:28:28 »
Da ja neznalica postavim pitanje:


Trump izjavio da će potpuno ukinuti finansiranje SZO. Otprilike, ako ne možemo da njime upravljamo što bismo ga plaćali.


Neoliberalizam ili ne?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.