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Labudan

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #500 on: 20-07-2020, 13:44:58 »
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #501 on: 20-07-2020, 15:20:55 »
Daklem, d plot tiknz. Zet od koleginice što mu rekli odokativno da nije korona no nešto drugo, dobio rezultate testa. Prvo dobio rezultate PCR testa, negativne. Dan kasnije dobio rezultate brzog testa, prisutni IgM i IgG. Sad ako Lilit može da rastumači šta to znači. Nešto pretraživao, kaže internet da je PCR bog, odnosno ako ima IgM i IgG onda PCR kaže jeste ili nije trenutno zaražen. Ovom rekli pošto ima IgM, to znači da je trenutno zaražen.

žena mu i dete pozitivni, i serološki i PCR, što znači da je i on verovatno prećero koronu preko leđa. inače, u momentima kad mu je bilo najlošije su ga cimali dva dana i poslali kući sa šac dijagnozom da mu je nešto drugo u pitanju.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #502 on: 20-07-2020, 17:03:05 »
žena mu i dete pozitivni, i serološki i PCR, što znači da je i on verovatno prećero koronu preko leđa. inače, u momentima kad mu je bilo najlošije su ga cimali dva dana i poslali kući sa šac dijagnozom da mu je nešto drugo u pitanju.

ma horor je što je sve to na nivou šbbkbb.
verovatno? moguće. to bi onda značilo da mu je PCR rezultat bio pogrešan: i) zamenjen uzorak, ii) nisu uzeli uzorak kad je trebalo, iii) pogrešno pipetiran, etc. imajući u vidu da uzorke ne rade u duplikatu, ovo poslednje zvuči najrealnije. a možda nije ništa od toga.
kako god, nadam se da će svi pregurati infekciju bez posledica.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #503 on: 20-07-2020, 17:11:39 »
danas objavljeni rezultati 2 clinical triala (oxford, phase 1/2 i kina, phase 2) nakon vakcinacije njihovim kandidatima. obećavajuće u oba slučaja.
komentar u lancetu je odličan i jednostavan.

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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #504 on: 20-07-2020, 17:14:05 »
naravno, ovo gore je obećavajuće al je DUGAČAK put od faze 2 do licenciranja vakcine i puštanja u prodaju. ako budemo imali vakcinu sledeće godine, biće brže nego ikad do sada.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #505 on: 20-07-2020, 17:47:11 »
Pa mogla bi moderna medicina da poradi na tim tajminzima... Će pocrkamo ovde..


EDIT: Pade mi napamet ovako laički, za sve viruse su potrebni receptori. Što ne bismo katalogizirali sve receptore i napravili bezbedan bloker za svaki, pa kad se pojavi virus koji se vata na neki egzotični receptor, a mi već imamo serum za to?

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #506 on: 21-07-2020, 15:49:47 »
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #507 on: 22-07-2020, 07:32:52 »
Pa mogla bi moderna medicina da poradi na tim tajminzima... Će pocrkamo ovde..


EDIT: Pade mi napamet ovako laički, za sve viruse su potrebni receptori. Što ne bismo katalogizirali sve receptore i napravili bezbedan bloker za svaki, pa kad se pojavi virus koji se vata na neki egzotični receptor, a mi već imamo serum za to?

zato što receptori imaju funkciju (regulacija ćelija), virus is samo hijackuje. nije jednostavno odlučiti šta je pro a šta kontra u smislu tretmana: ne smeš da izblokiraš vitalne procese.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #508 on: 22-07-2020, 07:42:44 »
švedski lekari se obratili javnosti:

Sweden hoped herd immunity would curb COVID-19. Don't do what we did. It's not working.

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We do believe Sweden can be used as a model, but not in the way it was thought of initially. It can instead serve as a control group and answer the question of how efficient the voluntary distancing and loose measures in Sweden are compared to lockdowns, aggressive testing, tracing and the use of masks.

In Sweden, the strategy has led to death, grief and suffering and on top of that there are no indications that the Swedish economy has fared better than in many other countries. At the moment, we have set an example for the rest of the world on how not to deal with a deadly infectious disease.

In the end, this too shall pass and life will eventually return to normal. New medical treatments will come and improve the prognosis. Hopefully there will be a vaccine. Stick it out until then. And don’t do it the Swedish way.


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/21/coronavirus-swedish-herd-immunity-drove-up-death-toll-column/5472100002/
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Labudan

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #509 on: 22-07-2020, 09:27:45 »
ima li koji švecki Radovanović dobjasni da nisu prijavili sve mrtve
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #510 on: 22-07-2020, 21:19:05 »
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Labudan

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #511 on: 22-07-2020, 21:26:01 »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tctM5UjM1N8

"neka ste i lagali al ste lepo pričali" :lol:
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #512 on: 22-07-2020, 22:03:22 »
jbg, ogroman procenat ljudi voli false hope, a nestorović im nadu deli šakom i kapom.
plus, ne mislim da laže. on prosto ne zna puno o Covidu a voli da priča. ni prvi, ni poslednji.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #513 on: 23-07-2020, 21:55:34 »
naslov je malo naduvan but it's ok. mislim, nije da nije bilo očekivano al je lepo za demonstraciju.

Flu deaths drop in Australia as coronavirus restrictions save hundreds of lives
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/coronavirus-restrictions-cause-flu-cases-to-drop-australia/12480190



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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #514 on: 24-07-2020, 18:20:41 »
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #515 on: 26-07-2020, 06:09:44 »
  'Major' breakthrough in Covid-19 drug makes UK professors millionaires
 
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Almost two decades ago professors Ratko Djukanovic, Stephen Holgate and Donna Davies discovered that people with asthma and chronic lung disease lacked a protein called interferon beta, which helps fight off the common cold. They worked out that patients’ defences against viral infection could be boosted if the missing protein were replaced.
 
The academics created a company, Synairgen, to turn their discoveries into treatments. It floated on the stock market in 2004, but a deal with AstraZeneca to treat viral infections in asthmatics fell through, and the shares collapsed.
 
Fast-forward a few years to the coronavirus pandemic, however, and suddenly any potential therapeutics for breathing difficulties were in high demand.
 

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #516 on: 26-07-2020, 13:29:22 »
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #517 on: 26-07-2020, 15:47:12 »
Kisićka sad reče kolektivni imunitet 7%, pilot istraživanje.

Nači 350.000 zaraženih bilo.
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« Reply #518 on: 26-07-2020, 16:07:31 »
U stvari pola miliona, ne znam brojat
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #519 on: 26-07-2020, 19:05:53 »
Zoran Milanović reče imunitet 10% u Hrvatskoj.

Nači Đokovid kriv za 400.000
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #520 on: 26-07-2020, 19:06:30 »
Almost two decades ago professors Ratko Djukanovic, Stephen Holgate and Donna Davies discovered that people with asthma and chronic lung disease lacked a protein called interferon beta, which helps fight off the common cold. They worked out that patients’ defences against viral infection could be boosted if the missing protein were replaced.
The academics created a company, Synairgen, to turn their discoveries into treatments. It floated on the stock market in 2004, but a deal with AstraZeneca to treat viral infections in asthmatics fell through, and the shares collapsed.
Fast-forward a few years to the coronavirus pandemic, however, and suddenly any potential therapeutics for breathing difficulties were in high demand.

lepo videti da su izgleda uspeli da naprave stabilan interferon beta za mukoznu primenu, al bilo bi dobro sačekati da daju uvid u rezultate, i objave idealno u nekom peer reviewed top journalu.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #521 on: 26-07-2020, 19:09:04 »
Zoran Milanović reče imunitet 10% u Hrvatskoj.

Nači Đokovid kriv za 400.000

pre objavljivanja ozbiljnih studija, uvek mora dobro da se povede računa da imaš reprezentativan (non-biased) uzorak. nisam sigurna da je to ispoštovano u srbiji i hrvatskoj.
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lilit

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #522 on: 26-07-2020, 19:15:37 »
U stvari pola miliona, ne znam brojat

evo ti novi avatar :lol:

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #523 on: 26-07-2020, 19:20:40 »
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #524 on: 26-07-2020, 20:21:53 »
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #525 on: 26-07-2020, 20:29:01 »
Nestorović više nije član kriznog štaba. Eto, Vučić je prešo na tamnu stranu! 8-)
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #526 on: 26-07-2020, 21:28:25 »
"Imali smo simulaciju epidemije na kruzeru Diamond Princess na samom početku. Videli smo da je na brodu bilo 4.000 ljudi, u zatvorenom sistemu, sa centralnom ventilacijom, znači idealno za širenje virusa. Oko 700 ljudi je bilo inficirano, umrlo 11, što je smrtnost 0,25 odsto."

https://stil.kurir.rs/lepi-zdravi/saveti-strucnjaka/129005/doktor-nestorovic-nosenje-maske-stvara-lazni-osecaj-da-si-zasticen-pa-ne-pazis-na-druge-mere


B.O.G. naučnog istraživanja i aristotelovske logike :lol:
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #527 on: 27-07-2020, 21:26:29 »

 

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« Reply #528 on: 31-07-2020, 17:15:08 »
166 kandidata za vakcinu trenutno u razvoju, od toga 26 u clinical trials, ostali u preklinici:

https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #529 on: 05-08-2020, 20:41:37 »
umetnost od teksta. must read.  :)

Immunology Is Where Intuition Goes to Die
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/covid-19-immunity-is-the-pandemics-central-mystery/614956/
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« Reply #530 on: 05-08-2020, 20:54:53 »
Imunologija je zaista vrtoglvo složena, ali ovaj tekst bar uspeva da sve to učini zabavnim.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #531 on: 06-08-2020, 22:29:46 »
Izgleda je Džordan Piterson popasao ćovid kod nas, odvikavajući se od benzodijazepina.
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