Lars von Trier's Antichrist

[Shozo Hirono]

S obzirom na velicinu autora,Antihrist automatski ide u kategoriju najvecih ocekivanja u 2009oj godini,i zasigurno zasluzuje poseban topik.
Film se nalazi u postprodukciji.
Slika sa pres konferencije u Nemackoj,gde je i sniman.

[Milosh]

U NOVU GODINU SA ANTIHRISTOM!!

Prva kritika Von Trierovog novog filma: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39631

[Demo(n)lisher]

Ja takodje puno ocekujem od Antihriste za narednu godinu. Lars me do sada nikad nije izneverio, a ni Defo (za koga smatram da ce dobro nositi predvidjenu ulogu).

[Harvester]

Od najprecjenjenijeg """režisera""" na svijetu očekujemo samo još jedno smeće kao što su Idioti ili Ples u tami  

[Shozo Hirono]

Pa nije valjda da si samo ta dva gledao ????  

[Milosh]

Od jednog od trenutno najboljih režisera na svetu očekujemo samo još jedno remek-delo kao što su Breaking the Waves ili Riget.  

[Harvester]

Pa nije valjda da si samo ta dva gledao ????  

Naravno da ne! Otkud ti ideja da bih TO gledao do kraja? Gledao sam dvije-tri minute Idiota i možda pet minuta Plesa u tami.  

[Harvester]

Od jednog od trenutno najboljih režisera na svetu očekujemo samo još jedno remek-delo kao što su Lady in the Water ili Signs.  

[Tuco]

evo i trejlera
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=4062746

[Shozo Hirono]

Ona straćara u magli izgleda fantastično.

[Ghoul]

ma biće to žešće ludilo, fon trir ne može da omane kad radi horor.

[Harvester]

Ha! Ako to bude valjalo, poješću vlastite ključeve od stana!

[Ghoul]

Ha! Ako to bude valjalo, poješću vlastite ključeve od stana!

nadam se da ću do filma doći ili ga nekako odgledati do 15. juna ove godine, kako bih mogao naživo da posmatram taj prizor na nekom od većih banjalučkih trgova!  

[acaciA]

Onda se pripremi,
jer ovo super izgleda.

Osećam da će zbog tvoje ishitrene ha-izjave,
ovaj film biti pun pogodak.  

EDIT:
Nadam se da ćeš podneti detaljan raport o tome,
možda čak i neku sliku, da i mi drugi uživamo u prizoru.

[Shozo Hirono]

Ha! Ako to bude valjalo, poješću vlastite kurčeve i sranja!

nadam se da ću do filma doći ili ga nekako odgledati do 15. juna ove godine, kako bih mogao naživo da posmatram taj prizor u toplini tvoga doma!  

 

[Ghoul]

ps: editovao sam samo da ne ispadne da želim da ostanem sa harvom zaključan u stanu čije je ključeve upravo pojeo!

znači, trg!

nadam se da imaš nekog povećeg medvedića ili zeku kao privezak na ključevima, harv!

[Shozo Hirono]

ps: editovao sam samo da ne ispadne da želim da ostanem sa harvom zaključan u stanu čije je ključeve upravo pojeo!

znači, trg!

nadam se da imaš nekog povećeg medvedića ili zeku kao privezak na ključevima, harv!

Ne vredi ti sad da se izvlačiš.

Ima verovatno prikačen mobilni.

[Harvester]

Ne brinite ništa, film će sasvim sigurno biti loš.

[Ghoul]

a evo i bisera u komentarima na trejler, sa AICN-a:

--Lars Von Trier.. since I saw Zentropa about 15 years ago, an absolute genius. --Willem Dafoe just rocks. --But Anti-Christ?? that's like being the Anti-MickeyMouse, or the Anti-Lochness Monster, or the Anti-Cinderella, or the Anti-FlyingPurplePeopleEater, or the Anti-Matt Damon... you get the point. --are people seriously still scared by Christian nonsense? --ok, sure, a movie called Anti-Christ would be no surprise from the usual Hollywood Jewish conglomerate... but an enlightened European?? WTF!


The problem is that as exploitation films go, LVT's movies are too depressing and boring to be good-trash, and too contrived in their misantropy to be great art-house films.... The amazing thing about each film he makes is that, thanks to his overrated reputation, he attracts such A-list talent to star in the art-house equivalent of I Spit On Your Grave.


Looks like yet another confusing movie of self-discovery.


Has a real director made a horror film? First Sam Raimi decides to show all the hacks how it's done, and now Lars Von Trier takes a stab at it?


I've never seen one of his movies, but now because I know that assholes don't like him, I want to. (ovaj aludira direktno na harva!)

[Milosh]

I've never seen one of his movies, but now because I know that assholes don't like him, I want to.

Kad god bude neka vest u vezi von Triera na tom sajtu odmah krene i nesputano pljuvanje po njemu od strane većine juzera; jedino je (daleko) gore ako se pomene Roman Polanski, u tim trenucima se i ne usuđujem da čitam talkback...

[Harvester]

Čekaj, a što pljuju fon Trira? Ima li, pored toga što pravi užasne filmove, neki razlog lične prirode?

[Ghoul]

zato što je osvedočeni i glasnogovorni mrzitelj amerike i svega američkog (sem nekih filmova).

hm, ideja! harv, zar to nije razlog da daš čoveku šansu?
 

[Harvester]

Da, možda. Mada, moram priznati da su mi ipak donekle draži ljudi koji prave dobre filmove, pa taman ne mrzili Ameriku.

[Milosh]

Prve reakcije iz Kana su takve da jedni film opisuju kao neviđeno smeće koje ima potencijal da uništi karijeru Larsa von Triera, dok drugi pričaju o remek-delu, zanimljivo...

Roger Ebert kaže sledeće:

There's electricity in the air. Every seat is filled, even the little fold-down seats at the end of every row. It is the first screening of Lars von Trier's "Antichrist," and we are ready for anything. We'd better be. Von Trier's film goes beyond malevolence into the monstrous. Never before have a man and woman inflicted more pain upon each other in a movie. We looked in disbelief. There were piteous groans. Sometimes a voice would cry out, "No!" At certain moments there was nervous laughter. When it was all over, we staggered up the aisles. Manohla Dargis, the merry film critic of The New York Times, could be heard singing "That's Entertainment!"

Whether this is a bad, good or great film is entirely beside the point. It is an audacious spit in the eye of society. It says we harbor an undreamed-of capacity for evil. It transforms a psychological treatment into torture undreamed of in the dungeons of history. Torturers might have been capable of such actions, but they would have lacked the imagination. Von Trier is not so much making a film about violence as making a film to inflict violence upon us, perhaps as a salutary experience. It's been reported that he suffered from depression during and after the film. You can tell. This is the most despairing film I've ever have seen.

If, as they say, you are not prepared for "disturbing images," I advise you to just just stop reading now.

The film involves a couple, He and She, whose infant child falls out a window and smashes to the pavement while they are making explicit love. They feel devastating grief. He, a psychologist, takes She off medications, and they go to live in their secluded hideaway in the forest, a cottage named Eden.

He subjects her to probing questions and the discussion of the Meaning of it All, which must affect her like a needle stab to an inflamed tooth. He is quite intelligent and insightful, and brings passive aggression to a brutally intimate level. Then she wounds him, and while he's unconscious she drills a hole through his leg and bolts a grindstone to it. He drags himself into the forest and tries to hide in an animal burrow. She finds him, and pounds him with a shovel to force him deeper. Then she tries to bury him alive. I won't mention two gruesome scenes involving the genital areas.

What does this metaphor (with a Prologue, an Epilogue and Four Chapters) mean? The dinner conversations all over town must not have been appetizing. Some read it this way: Perhaps the world began with man evil instead of good, guilty instead of innocent. That the Garden of Eden was visited by the Antichrist, not the Lord. That man's Original Sin was not eating from the Tree of Knowledge, but not vomiting forth knowledge and purging himself.

All for this will be discussed at great length. What can be said is that von Trier, after what many found the agonizing boredom of his previous Cannes films "Dogville" and "Manderlay," has made a film that is not boring. Unendurable, perhaps, but not boring. For relief I am looking forward to the overnight reviews of those who think they can explain exactly what it means. In this case, perhaps, a film should not mean, but be.

[Ghoul]

he he, ja imam toliko jaku pozitivnu predrasudu prema ovome da ću biti zabezeknut ako na kraju film bude imao manje od 4+ po mojoj tarifi;
a ako je iber-dilber bar upola u pravu (a ume on to, ponekad), ovo bi moglo da se primakne i petici...

cant wait, such a huge fan!!!
 

[Ghoul]

ajde nek mi neko kaže - KAKO NE VOLETI OVOG ČOVEKA???


CANNES -- Declaring himself "the world's greatest director," 53-year-old Dane Lars von Trier defended his enfant terrible title with aplomb at the Monday news conference for his Competition shocker "Antichrist."

It started with a shouting match between Daily Mail columnist Baz Bamigboye and other members of the press corps, with Bamigboye demanding von Trier "explain and justify" the explicit sexual gore in his film and another journo in the audience yelling "He's an artist, you're not. He doesn't have to explain anything!"

And he didn't. On questions both abusive and toadying, von Trier maintained his autistic savant persona, deliberately avoiding any explanation of "Antichrist," alternatively mocking or dismissing his interrogators.


"I don't have to explain anything. You are all my guests here, not the other way round," von Trier said. "Anyway, I don't think about the audience when I make a film. I don't care. I make films for myself."

Von Trier did defend his use of nausea-inducing imagery -- including a bloody masturbation scene and a leg-drilling sequence that could have been cribbed from the "Saw" franchise -- as artistic "honesty," saying to leave the shockers out would have been "like lying."

He also insisted he was not playing a joke on the audience but meant everything, from the film's talking fox to the closing dedication to Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, a dedication that drew howls of laughter at last night's press screening, to be taken seriously.

But, as always, von Trier tried to have it both ways, joking that it was "a bit of a pity" one can't actually kill people on screen and putting the blame for the most extreme scenes on lead actress Charlotte Gainsbourg.

"Charlotte took it too far. I tried to, but I just couldn't stop her," von Trier quipped.

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...trailer...

Code:

http://rapidshare.com/files/221396338/Anty.flv

[Cornelius]

Ozbiljni francuski filmski kritičari kažu za Trierov film da je groteska i cirkusko preterivanje. Medjutim, niko ne tvrdi da će mu ovaj film uništiti karijeru ili da će se on ubiti ili da će se desiti nešto radikalno. Samo promašaj jednog autora od koga se obično puno očekuje. Napraviće on još filmova od kojih će neki biti dobri, a neki loši. Nažalost, nema nikakvog skandala i nikakve drame dostojne Kurira.

[Ghoul]

naravno da je nemoguće 'uništiti karijeru' koja je od samog starta bila zasnovana na provokaciji, ironiji, kontrastiranju, šokiranju, poigravanju itsl.
mnogo su veću šansu za uništenje njegove karijere imale one tročasovne  pozorištarije - koje čak ni ja, kao osvedočeni fan fon trira, nisam mogao da svarim (tj dogvil jesam, uz mnogo patnje, a manderlej teško da ću se ikada usuditi; evo, nedavno sam po II put pokušao da završim EPIDEMIC, i nije mi uspelo; prekinuh na pola, kao i pri I pokušaju ).

za razliku od tih SMARAČINA, ovaj ANTIFRIZ obećava dinamičan, eventful, zabavan film koji čak i ako ne bude uspešan kao zaokružena i ne znam kako smislena storija, svakako će biti unikatno gledalačko iskustvo za sve one koji vole CHALLENGING filmmaking.

zapravo, dosadašnji rivju su mi već i previše spojlovali film, i ja od ovog trena ne želim da znam ni za jedan jedini detalj vezan za zaplet i sadržaj filma; pratiću samo vesti iz kana, intervjue i sl. jer me zabavljaju, ali o filmu imam prilično jasnu ideju šta da očekujem, i više ne želim da ga sebi spojlujem.

ostaje samo da se molimo da će duda lakić šarmirati fon trira svojim inteligentnim pitanjima i da će joj on pokloniti screener disk sa filmom, a da će ga onda ona po povratku iz kana pustiti u promet, da se i mi naslađujemo!

[Harvester]

Taj fon Trir je jedan potpuni imbecil, koji je još uz to totalno samoljubiv, a najgore od svega je što misli da zna da snima filmove a pojma s pojmom nema. Pa ima li gore kombinacije?

[Cornelius]

Taj fon Trir je jedan potpuni imbecil, koji je još uz to totalno samoljubiv

Kabasinski, da li znaš nekog na svetu koji nije samoljubiv?

[Harvester]

Ne. Ali to nije poenta. Ovde govorimo o fon Triru, a ne o nekom drugom Zemljaninu.

[Cornelius]

Iz dosadašnjeg iskustva si primetio da neko ko je smatran za važan lik u bilo kom domenu, redovno boluje od naduvavanja glave koja postaje kao luft-balon. Bivajući Zemljanin i važan lik, Trier nije ništa bolji od onih ostalih medijskih zvezda. Inače, razumeo sam da ti ne voliš njegovo stvaralaštvo i da smatraš da je nepravedno slavljen.

[mac]

Kornelijuse, pričaš sa Harvijem.

[Cornelius]

Mac, ne... Ja pričam sa očajnom domaćicom (moja specijalnost).

[Shozo Hirono]

Očajna domaćica asocira na užasno lošu marihuanu domaće proizvodnje; školsku pušku!

Ja ovog puta ništa ne bi diro.

[Ghoul]

srđan spasojević (SRPSKI FILM) je u kanu gledao ANTIKRISTA, i naravno, potpuno je oduševljen, kaže da je to veliki i ozbiljan film.

a sada, evo, obznanjene su nagrade:

Charlotte Gainsbourg has won the best-actress honor at the Cannes Film Festival for a movie that shocked audiences with its explicit images of physical abuse and torture.

Gainsbourg was picked for Danish director Lars von Trier's "Antichrist," a film that riled and repelled many Cannes viewers with its explicit images of physical abuse involving a grieving couple.

Gainsbourg delivers a terrifying performance as a psychotic woman torturing her husband (Willem Dafoe) and mutilating herself during a trip to the woods intended as a healing sojourn.

što je još najzabavnija i fon triru svakako najdraža nagrada - nekakav ekumenski žiri imbecila dodelio mu je nagradu za NAJMIZOGINIJI FILM!!!


‘Most Misogynist’: Lars von Trier’s ‘Anti-Christ’ Gets ‘Anti-Prize’ at Cannes Film Festival

AFP: Critics gasped, jeered and hooted -- and at least four people fainted -- during a preview of the movie, one of 20 films competing for the Palme d'Or top award to be handed out Sunday.

Cannes entered the final straight on Saturday with more controversy over "Anti-Christ" after the festival director denounced an "anti-prize" it received as an attempt at censorship. Lars von Trier's film was declared "the most misogynist movie from the self-proclaimed biggest director in the world" by an Ecumenical Jury which every year hands out a prize to a Cannes film that celebrates spiritual values.

[Milosh]

Charlotte Gainsbourg has won the best-actress honor at the Cannes Film Festival.

[Ghoul]

u principu ne obraćam mnogo pažnje na rivjue bladi dizgastinga, ali ovaj mi zvuči 99% u skladu sa očekivanjima i parametrima u okviru kojih se meni javlja da će film, bar meni, da legne:

By: Michael Panduro

Considering it's only been a few days since it's public premiere at Cannes, one could say that volumes have already been written about Lars Von Trier's ANTICHRIST. Volumes containing everything from angry disgust, accusations of ego-trippin and degradation of women to columns of praise, singling out the film as the most important feature at this year's festival. Symptomatic for most is the fact that people can't seem to wholly digest the film. The ones who praise it point out that they simultaneously feel obliged to hate the film, and people who aim at pulling it apart keep mentioning that they'll never forget it. Needless to say this is a film that takes it's toll once you lean back and let the darkness consume you.

ANTICHRIST has been marketed as a horror-film, but I'm not sure it is. Basically, like everyone else apparently, I'm not sure about anything in this film. I'm not even sure I like it. But then again, whenever a film makes an impression this lasting and this deep, I have to love it. So what is it? It's an artfilm for one - a psychological human horror that engages the furthest reaches of human behavior, belief and emotion. A combination of personal therapy for it's deranged creator and violent confrontation for it's audience. It's a film that keeps it simple story-wise, but carries a heavy load of symbolic undercurrent and gradually builds to a blatant and utterly disturbing finale. As a horror fan you might be drawn to the occult references to Wicca-mythology, the demonic imagery and the heavy bloodshed in the final real. As a film lover in general I was tantalized by the sheer beauty of the images - cinematographer Anthony Dod Mantle flexing his most impressive aesthetics fresh of Oscar-stardom - and intrigued by the lasting impression the film has on me.

Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourg dominate every single frame as a couple destroyed by the accidental death of their baby-boy (the cynicism of Von Trier is presented in the opening slow-motion montage that sees the boy falling beautifully to his death as his parents are having passionate sex in the next room). Dafoe, a therapist, takes on a cloak of clinical distance and concentrates his energy on treating his emotionally distraught wife. They hike to a cabin called Eden deep in the woods and start a series of therapeutic exercises that gradually dive deeper into the reaches of human grief and despair. Before long personal demons start to materialize and the forest itself seems to come alive.

To give away more of the, basically simple, plot would be a shame, but plot is really not that important here. What Von Trier gives us instead is a thing almost never seen in horror-oriented cinema: A pure cinematic experience. A film more focused on putting sight and sound together to form an engaging whole, a film with balls as heavy as Satan himself and a film that carries that one thing most horror films are without – emotional impact. You won't pay too much attention to the basic plotline, you'll be too engaged in the terrifying visuals, the subconscious tinglings of audio and the pure originality of most things on display. If it gets you, ANTICHRIST is a film that punches you right in the gut, keeps it's fist in there and rips out your very being once you're through. That's basically the easiest way for me to describe it. If it doesn't get you - and god be with you if you leave this one untouched - then you'll probably be inclined to recite other critics and call it everything from chauvinistic, ego-centric and downright disgusting.

Whatever state you might be in after watching, this is a film unlike anything out today - an overwhelmingly beautiful film about death, grief and the absurd reality of human emotion. ANTICHRIST pays tribute to August Strindberg and Andrei Tarkovsky, it taps into Von Triers streak of pulling exceptional performances from his leads, it packs the violent punch of Kim Ki-Duks The Isle or anything Karim Hussain can put on film and it gently touches horror-conventions like the scary forest and tales of witchcraft, while at the same time totally destroying these conventions. The only recent film that I can even begin to compare is Vinyan, because it taps into the same mood and tempo, but even Fabrice Du Welz' similar tale of grief is in a way completely removed from Von Trier's cynicism, hyper-aesthetics and violent conclusion. ANTICHRIST is basically a film I'd recommend to anyone. Even if you don't like it you'll probably still be baffled and unable to wash the images from your mind. Just pray to the dark one that it reaches your town uncut.
Score: 8 / 10

[Harvester]

the cynicism of Von Trier is presented in the opening slow-motion montage that sees the boy falling beautifully to his death as his parents are having passionate sex in the next room

To je mazno od Woelfela. Kod njega je doduše bilo donekle obrnuto, roditelji umiru dok kćerka širi noge na zadnjem sjedištu auta, ali princip je isti. Ne bi me čudilo ni da je ostatak filma blatantan rip-off Ghost Lake ili nečeg sličnog.

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...beogradski Megacom objavio da je za ovdašnj bioskopsku distribuciju otkupio Von Trierovog ANTIHRISTA (u saopštenju se ne pominje ni približni datum kino-starta)...

...a otkupljena je i Hanekeova BELA TRAKA....

[John Reynolds]

...beogradski Megacom objavio da je za ovdašnj bioskopsku distribuciju otkupio Von Trierovog ANTIHRISTA (u saopštenju se ne pominje ni približni datum kino-starta)...

Najverovatnije Festival autorskog filma.

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...upravo naleteh na ovu ponudu...

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...nema NFO odrednica, a nema ni potvrde da je prava stvar u pitanju, ali nije zgoreg obavestiti najnestrpljivije...

[Ghoul]

uf, nadam se da WORKPRINT ne znači bukvalno WORKPRINT - tj bez muzike i tona sređenog!
skinućemo to čim ustanemo ujutro na noge lagane!!!

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...tokom noći raskrinkana prevara, radilo se o gotovo dvosatnom loopu dostupnog trailera na 700 MB zapremine...

[Ghoul]

prokletnici!
imaju li ti ljudi dušu?!

baš su ustaše!
tako su radili i sa INSIDE i sa MARTYRS... uvek kad neki film od koga mnogo očekujem treba da se pojavi, dušmani izbacuju te lažnjake kako bi se poigravali mojim krhkim osećanjima!

[Kunac]

bastardi nijedni!
sve to treba pred zid i:

[Milosh]

Pojavio se na surrealmoviez VHS rip filma Nonnebørn (1997) koji je režirala von Trierova bivša supruga. Da li je film već bio dostupan ili mu je ovo divx premijera, a u prvom slučaju da li ga je neko gledao?

[Ghoul]

miloše, ne štrecaj me - svaki put kad vidim novi post na ovom topiku, pomislim: EVO GA, MORA DA JE IZAŠO DIVX!!!

ovo nisam gledo, al oću svakako.

Plot keywords for
Nonnebørn (1997)

    * School
    * Young Girl
    * Convent
    * Girl
    * Girl Nudity
    * Denmark
    * Child Nudity
    * Religion
    * Female Full Frontal Nudity
    * Children
    * Breasts
    * Catholicism
    * Menstruation
    * Topless Girl
    * Nun

[Meho Krljic]

A evo i da se Ghoul malo zainteresuje za igre (ili da se iznervira?):

Antichrist Gets Game

Hitman writer working on game inspired by von Trier's latest.

by Martin Robinson, IGN UK

UK, June 22, 2009 - Lars von Trier's Antichrist is the unlikely subject of a videogame translation, with Hitman writer Morten Iversen working to bring a game inspired by the controversial movie to PC.

'[The movie] goes against all the conventions of how you make games and what you can do in games' Iversen told MTV Multiplayer, 'Dead kids, nudity, graphic violence. It will be a very controversial game, and it'll be a game that doesn't really compare with anything else.'

Antichrist was one of the most talked about films at this year's Cannes Festival, with von Trier returning to his antagonistic ways with a graphic horror film starring Charlotte Gainsbourg and Willem Dafoe.

Iversen, who previously worked at IO Games on the Hitman series, is bringing von Trier's vision to games with Eden, a download-only title that's coming to PC, with the developers hoping to bring it to Xbox Live as well. Still early in the development phase, the game is described as a 'nightmarish version of Myst'.

Further details are thin on the ground, and don't expect to see the game until some point next year.