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« on: 01-07-2003, 11:58:13 »
Pre 2 dana sam čitao nešto o o mom omiljenom režiseru, Richardu Stanleyu, koji otkako mu je smrad Val Kilmer uništio karijeru nije snimio igrani film.
Ali zato jeste dokumentarce, za koje bih dao MNOGO da nekako nabavim.
Jedan je WHITE DARKNESS, o Vuduu, a naslov drugog mi trenutno nije u pameti, ali je slične tematike...

A sad, OVO: vest da još 1 od najdražih mi filmmejkera radi dokumentarac o temi koja me, po sebi, preterano i ne zanima, ali NJEGOV film o tome ću sigurno da dam sve od sebe da pogledam.

Here's the news:

Herzog's epic quest for camera shy Nessie

BRIAN PENDREIGH


THE legend is about to take on the monster. Eccentric German film-maker Werner Herzog will shortly arrive in Scotland to pursue one of the world’s most elusive creatures.

Herzog, widely regarded as one of the greatest film-makers alive because of his painstaking attention to detail, has become fascinated by the myth of the Loch Ness monster.

He now intends to make the definitive documentary on Nessie for cinema release around the world. Friends say he has been obsessively collecting research material in advance of his trip to the Highlands next month.

The Enigma of Loch Ness seems certain to be unlike any previous documentary on the subject. Herzog has often blurred the lines between drama and documentary, most notably in his epic Fitzcarraldo, for which he employed 500 Indians to haul a steamship up a mountain from one part of a drought-stricken Amazonian river to another, and which spawned a memorable documentary about the film’s creation. Many of his dramas have been true stories, while his documentaries have included dramatic re-enactments.

This one will be no exception. Herzog, 60, intends to investigate the origins of the legend and take to the water himself to see what he might find. He has also ordered the building of the back end of a sunken boat for one sequence, and may require extras for dramatic sequences.

In an exclusive interview with Scotland on Sunday, Herzog said: "It’s more than just the Loch Ness Monster. I’m just fascinated about some other Scottish things. It should also include landscapes, like the island of Skye and the Old Man of Storr. It’s not so much the so-called monster that’s important in this, it’s more the question why is it that we need a monster."

Asked what ‘angle’ he will take on Nessie, Herzog replied: "It’s too early to say. There’s something about Scottish culture and Celtic culture that plays a part in all this.

"I believe some of the megalithic monuments in Scotland are of great importance. We will be looking at prehistoric things, landscapes, real people, whom I like."

He will not, however, be doing a mock-up of the monster and says it will only appear in his film if he comes across the real thing.

"It would be wonderful if I found it and got it on film. I wouldn’t have to work in my life any more. Even better than getting it on film would be capturing it and having it as an exhibit at San Diego Sea World and charge a 50 bucks entrance fee."

Herzog has visited Scotland several times before, but not for about 10 years. He has come to Scotland in the past for tranquillity and inspiration, when writing, and first came as a teenager. "I was about 17 or 18. I ran away from school, lived in Manchester, grabbed a car and drove north. I grew up in the mountains of Bavaria. Scotland is very close. I feel at home there."

He has collected various Scottish items such as music, poetry - particularly Burns - and "landscapes that I carry in my heart".

He added: "I really love certain parts of Scotland. The area between Inverness and Ullapool is incredible, and some of the Hebrides.

"I just love these places, and best of all are the people. I’m just after real stout Scotsmen. Maybe I’m going to roam about and go to some Highland Games - even though I have no idea what the connection is with the Loch Ness Monster."

Herzog’s apparent vagueness on his subject matter makes it likely an air of mystery will surround the film until its premiere - probably some time next year.

To muddy waters further, there is going to be a second documentary shooting simultaneously. It is called Herzog in Wonderland and will be a film about Herzog making his film.

Trish Shorthouse of the Scottish Highlands and Islands Film Commission, said: "I get the impression that some of the crew aren’t even sure what is going to happen. This is very much Herzog’s baby."

Local businesses are already looking forward to the boost to business that Herzog will bring both during and after film production.

"It’s probably one of the most important events that’s happened in the Scottish film industry for a long time as far as world-recognised names go," said Willie Cameron of Loch Ness Marketing, a locations and film facilities company involved in the project.

"The last time must have been Mel Gibson coming to make Braveheart."

The film could also lift a tourist industry struggling in the wake of recent international events. "It would certainly drum up business," said Ray Bernardi, of the Original Loch Ness Monster Exhibition Centre at Drumnadrochit. "It’s been very quiet this year, probably the worst I’ve known it."

Documentary film-makers have been in pursuit of Nessie ever since the first recorded sighting in 1932. All have failed to find proof of the monster’s existence.

Nessie even failed to bow to Hollywood, declining to put in an appearance for the 1995 film Loch Ness, starring the American actor Ted Danson and Joely Richardson, which sank without trace at the box office.

Naturalist Adrian Shine says there have been dozens of documentaries since he began work at Loch Ness in the late 1970s, with satellite and cable channels leading to an increase in recent years.

Inevitably, many end up going over the same material, "But Herzog will bring a fresh perspective to the subject," Shine said. "At least that’s what I’m hoping."

Da li ste vi gledali ili imate neki pomena vredan film na ove teme?
Iako je 97,6 % toga utter bullshit, neki od njih, ako se naprave kako treba, umeju da budu jeziviji od bilo kog horor filma.

Uostalom, jedina knjiga  životu mome koja me je ikada uplašila, i to baš onako pošteno, bila je NAJVEĆE SVETSKE SABLASTI I DUHOVI  (iz sadašnje perspektive gledano, to je senzacionalistička i površna knjiga, ali sadrži prepričane neke užasno jezive 'anegdote', i kad sam je čitao sa svojih 13-ak godina uživao sam u stravi kao nigde!)

Ghoul

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« Reply #1 on: 01-07-2003, 19:14:40 »
Inače, Richard Stanley je suvi suvcati genije, što je blatantno jasno svakome ko iole ima ukusa a gledao je filmove HARDWARE & DUST DEVIL, kao i svakome ko je čitao neki intervju s njim (postoji najmanje 1 online, pa prosurfujte malo, odličan je, a ja imam i ogroman, rastegnut kroz 2 FANGORIJE, totalno srceparajući, o srcu-plakajućim okolnostima koje su umesto nastanka remek dela ISLAND OF DR MOREAU, proslavljivanja Stanleyevog imena i menjanja lica horor žanra u dijametralno suprotnom pravcu od onog koje je doneo SCREAM godinu-dve kasnije, dovele do izbacivanja Stanleya sa snimanja, draaastičnog menjanja scenarija i snimanja očajno imbecilne verzije MOREAU-a, te uništenja karijere najtalentovanijeg horor režisera koji je debitovao u 90-im...).

But, back to the topic:
detalji o njegovim dokumentarcima:

Secret Glory, The (2001)
Plot Outline: The story of SS officer Otto Rahn and his search for the Holy Grail.
90 min.

(Nacisti... + Okultizam... + Stanley...= PURE JOY!)


White Darkness, The (2002)
Plot Outline: Voodoo in modern-day Haiti.
52 MIN.
(As simple as this: I’d kill to get this!)

Voice of the Moon (1990)
Plot Outline: An experimental documentary on the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. (Pored toga što istražuje veze CIAe i talibana mnogo pre što je Bin Laden ikome išta značio, ovaj film se bavi i folklornim/okultnim delatnostima tamošnjeg življa...)

Ghoul

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« Reply #2 on: 10-02-2006, 20:15:20 »
gledao sam 2 apsolutno totalno i neopisivo genijalna dokumentarca:

GRIZZLY MAN, by Werner Herzog (****)
savršen spoj 'junaka' i režisera, stvarnost bogatija i fascinantnija od fikcije, prosto zadivljujuće šta sve kamera može da uhvati i otkrije (često nevezano za namere onog ko snima), 97 minuta filma koji je po svemu jednak najboljim Herzogovim igranim filmovima – sa tim plusom da je sve to STVARNO (pa time još teže poverovati svojim očima i ušima)! U emotivnom i inetelktualnom smislu, kao i u pogledu SASPENSA i totalno visceralnog dejstva – ovo se ne može meriti sa igranim filmovima!

PARADISE LOST: The Child Murders At Robin Hood Hills (****)
ovo traje 2,5 sata, a nijednog trena se ne oseti – štaviše, po završetku – hteo sam još! Britalno ubistvo 3 deteta, nabrzinu optuže i sumnjivo osude tri tinejdžera (najveći dokaz: to što je jedan od njih, sa IQ 72, 'priznao' pod policijskom presijom, i što je jedini bistar među njima slušao Metaliku i čitao knjige o okultizmu), proces, sa svim detaljima, izjavama roditelja, prijatelja, i samih optuženih.... neopisivo! Film optužuje sudski sistem Amerike i savršeno oslikava zatucanost američke provincije (južnjaci!) – mnogo toga je nejasno, baš kao u jednako fascinantnom filmu Capturing the Friedmans (vidi topic http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/viewtopic.php?t=1455&highlight=dokumentar) i baš zato što misterija ostaje, ovo je sasvim nailbiting i neuporedivo sa bilo kojim igranim filmom slične tematike.

Totalna preporuka za oba ova filma!

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« Reply #3 on: 13-04-2007, 21:59:27 »
treba svakako dodati još jedan fantastičan Herzogov dokumentarac
LITTLE DIETER NEEDS TO FLY
http://www.popcorn.hr/najave/view/104/
a gotovo jednako dobar je (i isto Herzogov)
DIE BEISPIELLOSE VERTEIDIGUNG DER FESTUNG DEUTSCHKREUTZ (Uzorita obrana tvrđave DEUTSCHKREUTZ)

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« Reply #4 on: 13-04-2007, 22:50:08 »
budući da za 4 godine, koliko postoji ovaj topik, niko nije imao šta da doda ili oduzme mojim usamljenim pokušajima promocije nekih odličnih dokumentaraca, verovatno bi bilo izlišno da pričam zašto vredi gledati BORN INTO BROTHELS - CALCUTTA'S RED LIGHT KIDS.

ko zna – znaće…


ps: hvala romelu na vaskrsenju, ipak.

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« Reply #5 on: 13-04-2007, 23:42:40 »
dugo sam tražio grizzly man, čuo sam sve najbolje o njemu. skidoh ga danas sa neta. sutra gledam

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« Reply #6 on: 14-04-2007, 02:09:46 »
moj favorit medj dokumentarcima je Velika komunisticka pljacka banke, o jedinoj pljacki banke (zapravo pokusaju pljacke) za vreme Causeskua u Rumuniji - i jedinom caper filmu snimljenom sa tim istim likovima koji su pokusali pljacku.

naime, nako sto su nesrecni pljackasi uhapseni (a ironija je da su to sve bili bivsi visoki funkcioneri partije), ponudjen im je dogovor - vi glumite sebe u filmskoj rekonstrukciji pljacke, mi vas ne streljamo.
sta drugo, pljackasi su pristali. taj film, Rekonstrukcija, ciji se delovi pojavljuju u dokumentarcu, jeste shir mednes iliti odron mozga.

ne znam da li moze da se nadje, ali ko ima rumunjske veze - vredi da pokusa.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0422349/
Ti si iz Bolivije? Gde je heroin i zašto ste ubili Če Gevaru?

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« Reply #7 on: 14-04-2007, 02:55:40 »
'Grizzly' je extra-film o 'extraordinarnom Marginalcu' (Herzogova tematska konstanta), posebno zadnji njegov dio (kada ovaj popizdi na vladu zbog njihovog odnosa prema grizlijima, na nekakvoj obali jezera, sve pred kamerom, u repetativnim scenama sa popizditis-afektirajucim govorima).

I jos jedan izvrstan dokumentarac:
'Crossing the Bridge: The Sound of Istanbul';
dokumentarac o muzickom podzemlju i uopste muzickoj sceni Istanbula, napravljen u saradnji sa Alexanderom Hackeom, iz Einstürzende Neubauten, kao glavnim naratorom i vodicem kroz muziku tog grada (urbane kulturoloske paradigme 'susreta Istoka i Zapada').

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0459242/

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U mene u Bosni u dajdzinice u malog u bubregu kamen.

Ghoul

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« Reply #8 on: 14-04-2007, 04:40:03 »
vidiš, i ovi rumuni i turci mogli bi biti VRLO zanimljivi... potražićemo!

dajte još sugestija!
 :!:

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« Reply #9 on: 14-04-2007, 04:45:46 »
poslednji dokumentarni film koji sam gledao je sasvim solidni The U.S. vs. John Lennon iz 2006.
Da nema vetra, pauci bi nebo premrezili.

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« Reply #10 on: 14-04-2007, 05:20:42 »
Quote from: "David"
I jos jedan izvrstan dokumentarac:
'Crossing the Bridge: The Sound of Istanbul';
dokumentarac o muzickom podzemlju i uopste muzickoj sceni Istanbula


MEHO, TURČINE, ŠTO NE PRIČAŠ DA SU I TEBE TURILI U DOKUMENT!


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« Reply #11 on: 14-04-2007, 07:32:51 »
:lol:

Moram da kažem da kad sam prvi put bio u Turskoj, mislio sam da ću se takoreći stopiti sa masom zahvaljujući svojoj turkoidnoj fizionomiji. Vraga! I dalje sam suviše beo i slovenast...

Rommel

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« Reply #12 on: 14-04-2007, 09:50:34 »
p.s ghoulinhno
ako imas grizzlya to me jako zanima zauzvrat nudim navvedeno ako već nemaš ili štogod drugoga

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« Reply #13 on: 14-04-2007, 11:04:47 »
Mislim da je dokumentarac koji se ne sme propustiti Adio Afrika, italijanskog reditelja Jakopetija.
Jakopeti (poznat i po filmovima serijala Mondo Cane - nesto kao Ta Amerika, ali snimljeno sirom sveta) je proveo nekoliko godina krajem 60ih i pochetkom 70ih u Africi, snimajuci odlazak belaca i gradjanske ratove koji su usledili u nekoliko novonastalih nezavisnih drzava. Ima svega - gomila odsechenih saka kao osveta jednog plemena nad drugim, ubijanje velikih slonova da bi se krijumcharila slonovacha, sudjenja ubicama, pokolj zena i dece sniman iz aviona, i na kraju - streljanje zatvorenika. Jakopeti je molio da se streljanje pomeri za popodne, kada mu je sunce bilo na boljem polozaju, da bi imao dobar kadar. Kada se to saznalo, izbacili su ga iz svih tih filmskih udruzenja ili necheg slichnog...
Dakle, zanimljiv film, mada veoma tezhak za gledanje, zbog svih tih nasilnih prizora. Ja sam izdrzao samo jednom da ga odgledam.

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« Reply #14 on: 14-04-2007, 11:31:04 »
čudi me da nitko nije ni lanuo o Barbet Schroederu i Idi aminu...

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« Reply #15 on: 14-04-2007, 13:31:30 »
romele, imam GRIZZLY MANa (naravno), kao i skoro SVAKI drugi herzogovo dokumentarac, IZUZEV te tvrđave koju pomenu i smesta me baci u depresiju!
organizovaćemo nešto, nemaj brige.
jesu li uopšte doprili do tebe onih 9 jugovića, tj DVDa koje ti poslah pre... eh, ima bar 6 meseci?

inače, imam bar 7-8 tih mondo muvija, uključujući i ĆAO AFRIKO, ali se još uvek nakanjujem da ih pogledam, uvek imam nešto preče.
dobro si me podsetio, taj o africi bih još i među prvima mogao.
gledao sam samo, i to u kinoteci, 1 čije mi ime sada izmiče, sa famoznim snimkom lava koji proždire safari-turistu, i sa onim golokurim crncima koji skaču sa alatkama gore-dole radi nekog obreda plodnosti (a kasnije jebu rupe u zemlji, itd.).

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« Reply #16 on: 14-04-2007, 15:12:33 »
eh ono uskoro stiže pajke to nosi u makarsku....a ako uspiješ dodaj mu i grizlija negdje prije 18.5. a ja mu tamo predam tvrđavu doduse na njemackom je ali nema puno teksta jer je cca 15-20 minutni...dieter te ne zanima ili ga imash vec? on je in ingleso pa... :wink:
a idi amin? ona dobrica iz crne afrike? trebas li?

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« Reply #17 on: 15-04-2007, 15:41:25 »
Quote from: "Ghoul"
gledao sam samo, i to u kinoteci, 1 čije mi ime sada izmiče, sa famoznim snimkom lava koji proždire safari-turistu, i sa onim golokurim crncima koji skaču sa alatkama gore-dole radi nekog obreda plodnosti (a kasnije jebu rupe u zemlji, itd.).


To je Poslednji krici savane, ili nesto slichno.

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« Reply #18 on: 15-04-2007, 17:50:22 »
upravo odgledah herzogov WHITE DIAMOND, i mogu reći da je ovo sam samcit vrh (ne samo njegove filmografije, nego uopšte među dokumentarcima), remek delo u najužem smislu reči, ČISTA POEZIJA NA FILMU, po bogatstvu i rasponu emocija, ideja i unikatnih prizora nemam sa čime da ovo uporedim, te zato, od mene, ČISTA PETICA (*****), po prvi put nekom filmu još od... u jebote, još od 2004. i filma OLDBOY!

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« Reply #19 on: 15-04-2007, 18:07:11 »
ovi nisu loshi>
Dario Argento: An Eye for Horror
100 Greatest Komedija Stand-ups Of All Time
sve od Majkla Mura
Cracking The DaVinci Code(just fuckin' with u)
Kad miki kaze da se boji(o Azri,baš topao,melanholičan i lep film)
Orwell Rolls In His Grave(sve o Američkoj "demokratiji")
Pervert's Guide To Cinema(Slavoj Žižek,ludak nad ludacima)
Satan Rides The Media (o Vargu,onaj osmeh :? )
Stupidity 2003 - dokumentarac o ljudskoj gluposti,odličan
Surplus: Terrorized Into Being Consumers(sjebana muzička podloga)
Vinyl 2000 - mračno,nema šta
Weather Underground - o radikalnim aktivistima u Americi (60ih?)

Rommel

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« Reply #20 on: 15-04-2007, 19:49:41 »
jeli ima itko njemački dokumentarac Wem War Dracula? o Tepesu kombinacija igranih i dokumentarnih sekvenci radjeno sa Christopherom Leejem!

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« Reply #21 on: 15-04-2007, 19:50:49 »
odgledah i WERNER HERZOG EATS HIS SHOE, što me podseti na GATES OF HEAVEN, dokumentarac o kome sam čitao odlične stvari: je li to neko gledo?

Ghoul

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« Reply #22 on: 15-04-2007, 19:52:07 »
Quote from: "Rommel"
jeli ima itko njemački dokumentarac Wem War Dracula? o Tepesu kombinacija igranih i dokumentarnih sekvenci radjeno sa Christopherom Leejem!


da, vidiš, to je dobro podsećanje, to bi valjalo pojuriti...
za sada, nemam.

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« Reply #23 on: 16-04-2007, 00:25:13 »
pito sam druga koji skinuo grizlija, i on kaže da ga ima na e-muli.
rommele, je li ti to nedostupno?
inače, nije problem da se to nareže, disk odnese u bg, pajke ga uzme, donese u makarsku itd – ako je ta opcija JEDNOSTAVNIJA…
 :roll:

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« Reply #24 on: 16-04-2007, 01:25:28 »
ja skino grizlija i odusevio sam se. odlicno.
 :lol:
Da nema vetra, pauci bi nebo premrezili.

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« Reply #25 on: 16-04-2007, 08:22:31 »
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pito sam druga koji skinuo grizlija, i on kaže da ga ima na e-muli.
rommele, je li ti to nedostupno?
inače, nije problem da se to nareže, disk odnese u bg, pajke ga uzme, donese u makarsku itd – ako je ta opcija JEDNOSTAVNIJA…
 :roll:

probati cu vidjeti da li se da skinuti ovisno koliko ga ljudi ima shareano....ja pajku sigurno nosim dietera pa ako tebi bude trebao

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« Reply #26 on: 28-04-2007, 23:12:51 »
sve dokumentarce o japanskoj kulturi i filmu prozdirem. Od dobrih dokumentaraca poslednji koji sam gledao je onaj na zatvaranju festivala dokumentarnog filma u Sava Centru - mislim da se zvao Crno Sunce.

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« Reply #27 on: 13-06-2007, 14:49:58 »
Hôtel Terminus: The Life and Times of Klaus Barbie French: Hôtel Terminus: Klaus Barbie, sa vie et son temps) is a 1988 documentary film directed by Marcel Ophuls about the life of Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie. The film covers Barbie's relatively innocent childhood, his time with the Gestapo in Lyon (where he apparently excelled at torture), through to the forty years between the end of World War II and his eventual deportation from Bolivia to stand trial for crimes against humanity. The film explores a number of themes, including the nature of evil and the diffusion of responsibility in hierarchical situations.

The film features interviews from both supporters and opponents of Barbie's trial, from journalists to former U.S. Counter Intelligence Corps agents to independent investigators of Nazi war crimes to Barbie's defense attorney. Much of the testimony presented is contradictory: for example, some interviewees allege that Barbie was brought to trial as a figurehead while others allege that he was allowed to go free for forty years as a result of the protection of various governments (including those of the United States and Bolivia), because Barbie knew secret agents and his trial could thus jeapordize various counterintelligence operations.

Nonetheless, within the course of the film, Barbie is brought to trial and sentenced to life in prison; near the end of the film, his defense attorney vows to appeal the decision.

The film won the 1988 Academy Award for Documentary Feature as well as the 1988 FIPRESCI Award at the Cannes Film Festival.
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« Reply #28 on: 25-07-2007, 21:13:20 »
Bogme, morace ponovo da ozivi ovaj topik jer ja u poslednje vreme gledam samo dokumentarce, bolji su mi i brutalniji nego bilo koji igrani film. Priche iz stvarnog zivot su mnogo zajebanije od bilo kog horora i to stoji samo tako...

Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple (2006)



Directed by
Stanley Nelson

Najnoviji dokumentarac o masakru u Jonestownu u Gvajani '78 kada je stradalo preko 900 mushkaraca, zena i dece pod komandom Jim Jonesa. Shokantna svedochanstva prezivelih chlanova "Hrama Naroda" i jezivi audio i video materijal sniman poslednjih nekoliko sati uochi masakra. Nisam uopshte imao pojma da postoje svi ovi snimci jer sam gledao vec neke dokumentarce na ovu temu i chitao knjigu tako da sam ostao zatechen.
Nashao sam na NETu i audio snimak poslednjeg govora Jim Jonesa svojim sledbenicima i konverzacije sa pojedincima koji su se pobunili i hteli da napuste Jonestown, pre nego shto im je podelio cijanid a snimljen je i deo kada ljudi umiru a on i dalje pricha. Ko ima snage za ovo ZLO moze ga naci na sledecoj adresi (ako trazish djavola nacicesh ga :twisted: ) :
http://www.archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16


Featuring never-before-seen footage, this documentary delivers a startling new look at the Peoples Temple, headed by preacher Jim Jones who, in 1978, led more than 900 members to Guyana, where he orchestrated a mass suicide via tainted punch.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0762111/



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« Reply #29 on: 25-07-2007, 21:18:40 »
Na ovo sam naleteo gledajuci skoro na Discovery-u jedan dokumentarac na ovu temu koji me nije bash zadovoljio. Malo sam potrazio po NETu i naleteo na josh dva odlicha filma i mogu da kazem da tek posle odgledana sva tri komada moze da se ima neki uvid shta se zaista dogodilo u Wacou '93. Onaj na Discovery-u mi se nije svideo jer izgleda ko da ga je pravila americhka vlada da bi opravdala ovaj zlochin i vishe se bavi likom i delom Davida Koresha optuzujuci ga za sve i svja a ne govori o chinjenicama vezanim za sam incident.

Waco: A New Revelation (1999)



Directed by
Jason Van Vleet

Ovaj prvi govori o tome na koji nachin americhka vlada reshava lokalne probleme sa svojim drzavljanima. U ovom sluchaju se radilo o jednoj vrsti pobune kada su '93 vladine snage napale imanje "Loze Davidijanaca" koji su se "odmetnuli" i pokushali da kazu ne drzavi. Tvrdeci da je na njih pucano iz zgrade specijalni odred ATF-a su napali kontraverznog Dejvida Koresha i njegove sledbenike i tako posle 51 dana opsade na kraju bukvalno spalili zgradu do temelja gde je poginulo preko 70 ljudi od toga 20-ak male dece. U opsadi su korishteni chak i tenkovi i helikopteri. Kada su specijalci posle zavrshene operacije na sudjenju tvrdili kako je na njih pucano iz zgrade i da su samo zato morali da odgovore vatrom, od njih su zatrazeni snimci tog momenta ali iako su sve snimale chak tri kamere snimci su volshebno nestali. Tachno 2 godine posle pochetka opsade u Waco-u (drzava Teksas) u znak odmzde Timoti Mekvej je digao u vazduh federalnu zgradu u Oklahomi i ubio ogroman broj ljudi.

In the spring of 1998, under the Freedom of Information Act, investigators from MGA Studio's film division became the first private citizens to gain access to the Waco investigation evidence lockers. What they found was shocking. Upon examination, the evidence gathered under the supervision of federal officials appeared to contradict the FBI's congressional testimony, raising serious and disturbing questions about events surrounding the siege at Mt. Carmel and the deaths of the Davidians.

Since 1993, former members of the FBI, former Special Forces and CIA operatives have come forward with new evidence to suggest that the FBI's claim is inaccurate.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0259731/



Ovaj drugi je mozda i najbolji jer prenosi svedochenja sa saslushanja u kongresu gde su eksperti dokazali snimcima i masom drugih dokaza shta se zaista dogodilo, da je pozar izazvala pucnjava federalnih agenata pri napadu tenkovima a ne kako drzava tvrdi da su Davidijanci sami podmetnuli pozar da bi izvrshili samoubistvo.

Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997)



Director:
William Gazecki

This controversial documentary about the stand-off between an unorthodox Christian group - the Branch Davidians, under the leadership of the young, charismatic David Koresh - and the FBI and ATF in Waco, Texas, from February to April 1993 presents a different spin on the events from that of the United States government, which held that the Branch Davidians set the fire that destroyed their compound, and killed the vast majority of them, on April 19, 1993. Using footage from the 51 day siege, from the congressional hearings afterwards, from people involved in all aspects of the siege, and from experts technical, psychological, and religious, the movie suggests that the Branch Davidians were not a cult, but a valid religious group practicing under First Amendment freedoms who fell victim to first the ineptitude of an ATF raid designed to garner the agency positive attention and later the cruel, methodical work of the FBI, who over-saw the murder of the Davidians and then quickly covered it up.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/


P.S. Koga zanima sve ove dokumentarce moze naci na Elite Hubu ili preko horor Hubova... :wink:

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« Reply #30 on: 25-07-2007, 22:19:36 »
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GRIZZLY MAN, by Werner Herzog (****)

Uh, sunce ti...predrkan dokumentarac, tolko iskren i spontan da jebe mamaru bukvalno...posle gledanja se josh vishe plashim medveda (i pre sam imao strah od njih jer jedan od groznijih nachina da se umre je da te medved do'vati)
Nema onaj smajli shto se klanja pa zato evo ovaj
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PARADISE LOST: The Child Murders At Robin Hood Hills (****)

Vec se skida - obozavam ovu tematiku...

A sad evo neshto samo za prave poshtovaoce, one koji mogu da skapiraju lik i delo Charlesa Mansona pa i za one koji to josh nisu a samo iz razloga jer nisu gledali ove dokumentarce  :wink:

Charles Manson Superstar (1989)



Definitivno najbolji dokumentarac o Mansonu. Pogledao sam veliku vecinu filmova na tu temu tako da mogu opushteno da sudim. Tek posle ovog dokumentarca sam shvatio zashto na sudjenju nisu dozvolili Mansonu da svedochi pred porotom. Ko bude pogledao moci ce da se uveri kako izgleda pravi manipulator na delu. (90 min)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097047/

For forty years, Charles Manson has survived most of his life in what he calls 'the hallways of the all ways,' the reform schools, jails and prisons that have been his home and tomb. His thought was born in the hole of solitary confinement, apart from time and beyond the grasp of society. In his cell, he created his own world and speaks his own language: he has concluded that there is only the mind. This DVD will relinquish to you the extreme story of the killer of all killers: Charles Manson. From convincing his followers to move into the desert to train for the apocalypse, to leading a murderous crew through a string of devilish murders, you will see and hear from Manson himself of how he created a preconceived terror based on his philosophy of life. Manson claims that the so-called 'straight' world outside of prison is but an inverted reflection of the underworld in which he has lived. To him, the reality that presidents and law-abiding citizens accept begins in the hermetic alternate universe of criminals, cons and outlaws. Much as simplistic historians have dismissed Hitler's 3rd Reich as the overcompensation of a failed artist, Manson's vision of a holy war has been generally categorized as nothing more than the jealous rage of a spurned musician.


Manson (1973)



Directed by
Robert Hendrickson
Laurence Merrick

Ovaj dokumentarac je pravljen bez neophodne vremenske distance tako da ga treba prvenstveno gledati kao svedochanstvo tog perioda neposredno posle ubistava i chitave te medijske frke koja je potresla chitave Sjedinjene Drzave pa i ceo svet. Za mene lichno je interesantan zato shto izmedju ostalih sadrzi i intervjue sa preostalim chlanovima Familije tj. devojkama koje su ostale na slobodi i uporno prkosile rezimu. Naravno prednjachila je fanatichna Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme koja je kasnije izvrshila i chuveni pokushaj atentata na predsednika Sjedinjenih Drzava Forda. Film je nominovan za Oskara.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068918/

Documentary on Charles Manson and his family. Has a number of insightful interviews with many family members most notably Squeaky and Sandy (Blue and Red). There is also a history of Manson from his birth to the family formation to the Tate/La Bianca murders. Plenty of footage of the family playing at Spahn Ranch.




Najavljeno je da ce se u toku ove godine pojaviti i nova verzija pod imenom "Manson 2" sa svim snimcima koji se iz raznih razloga (uglavnom zbog cenzure) nisu pojavili u prvom delu.

http://www.exclusivefilmnet.com

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On August 9, 1969, in the middle of night four assassins, clothed in black, besieged the home of international film star Sharon Tate, unleashed their swords and left a trail of blood and warnings to be felt from Los Angeles to the far corners of the world.

Four months later, led by their master Charles Manson, the killers appeared again, this time to invade the newspapers, television and radio. While police investigators and newsmen were scrambling for information on the "Hippie Cult Leader and His Family," producer Robert Hendrickson had already made contact with and was filming the now notorious "Manson Family". Perhaps as bizarre as the "Family's" far out lifestyle, was the fact that Hendrickson would be given full and complete access to the "Family's" experiences throughout the next two and a half years. Armed with a 16mm camera, he rode with the Family to their hideaway in Devil's Canyon, their compound in Death Valley and stayed with them at the now infamous Spahn movie ranch.

As fate would have it, only a small portion of the footage taken was used to create the original 1972 MANSON documentary and the rest was put in a vault, not to be seen for over 30 years. MANSON II is actually the beginning and much closer to the real Manson Family story. In fact, this time, you will be an actual witness to the unfolding of the most bizarre crime story in modern times. As long held secrets are finally revealed, you will begin to understand what it was all about. This time, NOTHING will be censored. You will experience it all, just as Hendrickson did so many years ago.


Odlichan trejler : http://www.exclusivefilmnet.com/manson-2-preview.htm


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« Reply #31 on: 26-07-2007, 10:32:06 »
The great global warming swindle...
ima verzija youtube-u.
Tolika se panika/prashina digla kad su ga pustili Aus aABCju... Smeshno... bi bilo, da nije zalosno. Sad je bolje reci da je Zemlja ravna ploca, bezbednije je.
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« Reply #32 on: 26-07-2007, 22:35:33 »
Evo malog serijala serial killer dokumentaraca koje bih vam toplo preporuchio :

Ed Gein: The Ghoul of Plainfield (2004)



Odlichno uradjen dokumentarac o po zlu chuvenom Ed Geinu koji je inspirisao chitav niz horor filmova medju kojima su i "Psiho", "Teksashki masakr motornom testerom" i "Kad jaganjci utihnu". Imao sam period kada sam preterano gledao ovaj film (a bogme i sve ostale filmove inspirisane Geinom - posebno mi je Deranged zajeban) a imao sam i period skoro kada zbog njega nisam mogao da zaspim, bez zajebancije...tako da ovaj kanibaizam i nekrofilja mogu da budu i pogubni za pojedince..

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0396002/




Albert Fish (2007)



Directed by
John Borowski

E ovaj matori je bio bash zeshce zajeban...geranto-fobija xexe  :twisted:

Albert Fish, the horrific true story of elderly cannibal, sadomasochist, and serial killer, who lured children to their deaths in Depression-era New York City. Distorting biblical tales, Albert Fish takes the themes of pain, torture, atonement and suffering literally as he preys on victims to torture and sacrifice. From John Borowski, award-winning director of H.H. Holmes: America's First Serial Killer, comes the first ever docudrama to definitively recount the life and times of elderly cannibal Albert Fish. Adding insight to the account are interviews with artist and Odditorium owner, Joe Coleman, and renowned true-crime author, Katherine Ramsland, Ph.D.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486544/

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« Reply #33 on: 27-07-2007, 19:51:52 »
Ovo sam jutros jedva izorao...

Decoding The Past (2005)
Cults: Dangerous Devotion



Ultimativni dokumentarac o najdestruktivnijim kultovima shirom sveta. Od Jim Jonesa i Hrama Naroda, Mansona i Familije, preko Davida Koresha i Loze Davidijanaca pa sve do Shoko Asahare i napada smrtonosnim gasom na Tokijski metro. Konachno svi na jednom mestu. 120 minuta.

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From the bizarre prophecies of Charles Manson to the desperate paranoia of Jim Jones, cult leaders draw us into worlds of power, paranoia, and death. Through interviews with world-renowned scholars and the survivors of cultic tragedy, we will unmask the mystery of cults. From Jim Jones' pursuit of a socialist paradise to Warren Jeffs' Yearning for Zion ranch, cult leaders have twisted the quest for purity into an obsession with madness and murder.

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« Reply #34 on: 28-07-2007, 09:58:19 »
Evo jedan surov dokumentarac, onako bash da razdrma emocije, iskreno najbolji koji sam gledao u poslednje vreme. Ocu i ja majko na taj most... :!:

The Bridge (2006)



Director:
Eric Steel

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/

People suffer largely unnoticed while the rest of the world goes about its business. This is a documentary exploration of the mythic beauty of the Golden Gate Bridge, the most popular suicide destination in the world, and those drawn by its call. Steel and his crew filmed the bridge during daylight hours from two separate locations for all of 2004, recording most of the two dozen deaths in that year (and preventing several others). They also taped interviews with friends, families and witnesses, who recount in sorrowful detail stories of struggles with depression, substance abuse and mental illness. Raises questions about suicide, mental illness and civic responsibility as well as the filmmaker's relationship to his fraught and complicated material.

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« Reply #35 on: 28-07-2007, 13:29:19 »
Razdruzene drzave Amerike (2006)



Director:
Saso Podgorsek

Ko josh nije pogledo obavezno. Plastichni prikaz americhkog drushtva danas + odlichna muzichka podloga Laibacha.

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This movie was shot during the USA tour of Laibach that occurred at the same time as the presidential elections 2004.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395291/

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« Reply #36 on: 29-07-2007, 19:25:15 »
Jos jedan bolesni dokumentarac o Laibachu u kome je prikazan cak i cuveni govor Petera Mlakara '89 na poslednjem koncertu u beogradskom SKCu pred raspad SFRJ koji pocinje sa : "Braco Srbi..." a upozorava na porast nacionalizma sirom stare drzave i njegove moguce posledice. Takodje se izmedju ostalog govori i o sukob izmedju Grchke i BJRM oko imena Makedonija. Skroz zanimljivo.

Prerokbe Ognja (1996)
Prediction Of Fire



Director:
Michael Benson

This great documentary about NSK`s work shows the whole organization in the conditions of second part of the 90`s, when communist regimes in eastern Europe ceased to exist. This film can be understood as a follow up of the first documentary about slovenian industrial rock band Laibach called "Laibach: Pobeda Pod Suncem" , but this time, you can see work of all sections united in the Neue slowenische Kunst collective (Laibach, Irvin, Rdeci pilot/Noordung, Novi kolektivizem, Department of pure and applied philosophy...). A must see for all, who are interested in NSK`s retrogardist artistic point of view, music or graphical design and who wants to understand the historical, cultural and political background of this exceptional art movement.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114176/

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« Reply #37 on: 03-08-2007, 08:25:19 »
E da sam juce umro ne bi znao za ovaj serijal koji su ocigledno pravili neki metalci u sopstvenoj produkciji. Shockumentary Movie, brutalne scene nasilja shirom sveta od kojih sam neke doduse i video u "Execution" dokumentarcu, ali ovo je mnogo zajebanije. Sve prati zlokoban naratorski glas (verovatno isto nekog metalca). Jedino sto su mogli da izbace te nesrece na moto-trkama jer to smara a sve ostalo je bas na nivou, posebno mostbrutalne scene borbi sa A.C.A.B-ima na demostraciijama koje sam ikada video, a vala video sam ih bas mnogo. Nije pisalo o kojoj je zemlji rec al razume se da je neka Azija u pitanju, i smesta bi se preselio tamo jer Srbija vise realno nema tih potencijala nazalost (murija se konacno organizovala a mi se propichkastili jbga). Al ubedljivo najzajebanija scena je snimak ultra deformisanog deteta (neko crnche je u pitanju) i prvih pola minuta tripujes da takvo nesto sigurno mora biti mrtvo jer u tom obliku nikako ne moze da opstane, al onda beba pocinje da mrda rucicama i nozicama i nastaje totalni uzas... :(  
Naravno sve prati prikladan soundtrack nekih losih death metal bendova sto bas lepo ide uz ovaj "materijal"...

Uostalom evo liste pesama i izvodjaca koga zanima :
"Providence" by DREADFUL SHADOWS, "Bastard Saints" by SINISTER, "Hass" by UMBRA ET IMAGO, "The Dream Messiah" by MONSTROSITY, "Future Breed Machine" by MESHUGGAH, "Ghetto" by SATANIC INDUSTRIES LIMITED, "Freedom" by GOREFEST, "Nothing Remains" by SLAPDASH, "Destroyed by Society" by BRUTALITY, "Machine" by CORE, "Where Dead Angels Lie" by DISSECTION, "Seasons of Black" by END OF GREEN, "Copycat" by LACRIMOSA,
"Hail" by N 17, "Grand Slam" by 187 CREW, "Wicked Wonderland" by SANCTIONS, "Killing Art" by HYPOCRISY, "To Mega Therion" by THERION, "In Death's Sleep" by DISMEMBER, "Evil" by SATANIC INDUSTRIES LIMITED, "On My Own” by SLAPDASH, "Life of Filth" by HYPOCRISY, "Infinity" by END OF GREEN, "Buried Again" by DREADFUL SHADOWS, "Version 1.2" by N 17


Traces of Death IV: Resurrected (1996)



The fourth entry in the "Traces of Death" series stays on the same track as the previous films by showing scenes of real life violent deaths and gory accidents caught on film. This volume shows scenes of birth defects, tumors, leprosy, different piercings of the male and female genitalia and even midget wrestling, and like the previous entries this ones definitely not for the squeamish.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375149/

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« Reply #38 on: 03-08-2007, 12:28:13 »
hej, pa ovaj saundtrek uopšte ne zvuči tako loše!
ovo bi čak vredelo imati!

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« Reply #39 on: 03-08-2007, 22:29:52 »
Evo jednog kultnog dokumentarca, snimite samo godinu kad je napravljen pa ce vam biti jasnije zashto je digo tolku prasinu svojevremeno...

The Killing of America (1982)



Director:
Sheldon Renan

Here is a very good documentary of the decline of America. It features a lot a great footage (most exclusive to this film) from race riots to serial killers and much-much more.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0157894/

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« Reply #40 on: 04-08-2007, 21:08:10 »
Mislili ste da ste sve videli ?
Tesko jer ovo je neopisivo. A ucili su me da je Satan Panonski bio zajeban lik.
Ko je mislio da je PUNK kada napravis fanzin, bend, i budes "aktivan" na sceni mora da overi ovaj dokumentarac da vidi sta znaci biti zaista TRUE TILL DEATH. Spomenucu samo da je nastup legende Dzej Dzeja tolko umetnichki nastrojen (necu da spojlujem) da publika bukvalno pobegne iz kluba a ostanu samo oni PRAVI (3 choveka ukljucujuci 2 kamermana)...samo takav RESPECT za legendu...
Rusenje svih tabua i to bez kurtona, ultimativna sloboda !!!  :evil:    

Hated (1994)



Director:
Todd Phillips

Documentary about the life and death of the notorious underground punk icon GG Allin, the foul mouthed, heroin shooting lead singer of the Murder Junkies, who would throw excrement at the crowd, start fights with the biggest guys in the audience, and threatened to kill himself onstage. He was considered the lowest common denominator of our society by some, an avant-garde artist by others. He died of an overdose in the early 90's.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107086/

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« Reply #41 on: 05-08-2007, 11:02:28 »
SSD, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Circle Jerks (najjachi naziv za bend ikada), Bad Brains, Negative FX, 7 Seconds, Corosion of conformity, Cro-Mags (ili kako su neki svojevremeno izvalili "hrvatski magovi" :lol: )  etc. iz vremena kad je HCpunk bio zaista punk !!!
Najjacha pricha u svemu je ta o chuveni rivalitetu izmedju scena D.C-a, N.Y.C-a i Bostona i te masovne tuche na gostovanjima, lud'lo jednom rechju !!! :mrgreen:

American Hardcore (2006)



Director:
Paul Rachman

Inspired by Steven Blush's book "American Hardcore: A tribal history" Paul Rachman's feature documentary debut is a chronicle of the underground hardcore punk years from 1979 to 1986. Interviews and rare live footage from artists such as Black Flag, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, SS Decontrol and the Dead Kennedys.

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You would go out at night with a friend or two, look for some no name building where you would see a couple of punks hanging outside, go inside, pay your $6.00 and walk through a door or a small hallway, go down the stairs and feel the heat & smell the sweat, and then the assault of noise would fill the "club". In L.A. it could be the Cathy De Grand with D.R.I. or the Circle Jerks at the Sunset Ballroom with Youth Brigade, or, well it didn't matter who you went to see, you just had to get there and be a part of it. It was 90 MPH music coming at you with every possible watt there was. It was Loud,Fast, and Relentelss. That is Hardcore punk rock. When the bands were done, you gathered yourself, took a deep breath, looked yourself over to make sure you were all there, and you walked outside to get some fresh air. You survived another show. As the cars drove past, you laughed at yourself thinking, No one know's what just went on inside here. Well, This movie lets you inside. It's the real deal. When I watched some of the videos of the bands playing, I could not help myself from belting out some of the words from these great songs. This is American Hardcore the way I remember it. Great job on telling this story.











http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419434/

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« Reply #42 on: 05-08-2007, 23:34:18 »
Koga interesuju rane američke pank/hardkor scene može da pogleda Another State of Mind, film koji prikazuje drugu stranu medalje, gde nema gore spominjanog rivaliteta. Dovoljno je što ASoM prati prvu turneju najvećeg postojećeg benda današnjice - Social Distortion.

Što se tiče Hated, tu Todd Philips dokazuje koliko je nesavršen režiser. Već sam spominjao da on ima ozbiljan gross out pedigre upravo zahvaljujući ovom filmu, ali mi je potpuno neobjašnjiva činjenica da fenomen GG Allina nije uspeo da produbi, već se ograničio na poslednje godine života + nekoliko nabacanih isečaka iz ranijeg perioda. Ona prisećanja Dži Džijevih drugara i profesora iz škole postižu nešto zaisto neverovatno - snimci koji se tiču Alina su zapravo - smor. Dakle, Hated može da posluži samo kao uvod za neinicirane; ako hoćete da gledate istinsko ludilo, poskidajte snimke koncerata, dobro se ušljemajte i odvrnite volu-me na najjače.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you… And the KGB is everywhere.

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« Reply #43 on: 05-08-2007, 23:46:04 »
Evo Ghoulove preporuke...

Od rezisera "Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2". Tri tinejdzera metalca optuzeni su 1993.godine da su u maniru "satanistickog rituala" pod uticajem Alistera Kroulija silovali, muchili, kastrirali i na kraju na brutalan nacin ubili tri 8-ogodisnja decaka. U filmu smo svedoci pronalazenja tela ubijenih, ispovesti roditelja ubijene dece, i roditelja tinejdzera optuzenih za ubistva,i naravno samih optuzenih. Najpotresnija su upravo svedochenja roditelja svo 6-oro dece jer su u ovom sluchaju svi do jednog zrtve. Zatim posmatramo citav tok sudjenje koje otkriva mnoge shokantne detalje i dovodi do neochekivanih obrta poput najboljeg trilera. Sve to prati muzichka podloga Metalikine kultne pesmom "Sanitarum" koja se savrseno uklapa u sumornu i potresnu atmosferu ove price a i omiljena je pesma jednog od optuzenih decaka. Daleko jezivije od bilo kog serial killer dokumentarca, jako tezak film zbog svih tih emocija ali definitivno na MUST SEE listi !!!
Na IMDb-u rejting je 8.3/10 a ja mu dajem chistu 10-ku bez mnogo razmisljanja. Film ima i nastavak snimljen nekoliko godina kasnije pod imenom "Paradise Lost 2:Revelations" gde se pojavljuju novi dokazu vezani za ubistva. (150 minuta)

Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills (1996)



Directors:
Joe Berlinger
Bruce Sinofsky

Berlinger and Sinofsky's documentary of a gruesome triple murder in West Memphis, Arkansas and the subsequent trials of three suspects, takes a hard look at both the occult and the American justice system in 'small-town' America. Three teenagers are accused of this horrific crime of killing three children, supposedly as a result of involvement in Satanism. As in their previous documentary, things turn out to be more complex than initial appearances and this film presents the real-life courtroom drama to the viewer, as it unfolds.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117293/




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« Reply #44 on: 06-08-2007, 10:59:54 »
rekla mi strina živanka da je film genijalan, pa hajde da okačim i ovde:

http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/viewtopic.php?t=4789

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« Reply #45 on: 07-08-2007, 11:36:07 »
Traces of Death III (1995)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114710/

Treca epizoda pochinje snimcima masakra na Markalama u Sarajevu. Zatim sledi serija samoubilackih bombaskih napada sirom Palestine ("State of Israel sucks, give those Palestinians what belongs to them" - by Nations of Fire), pa onda Africko zlo, masovno obrezivanje decaka u old school fazonu, zatim zrtve kamenovanja, a sve to uz death metal i grindcore soundtrack. Od Pungent Stench-a do Benedictiona. Narator nas pomalo predramaticnim glasom vodi kroz sve ovo objashnjavajuci svaki detalj tipa : "krv izlazi iz rupe od metka dok bolnicar pokusava masiranjem srca da ozivi choveka, kako on pritiska tako krv izlazi" tako da bude pomalo i smeshno u nekim trenucima."Voz je beskucnika prepolovio na pola, ali ga je ostavio u zivotu jos 30 minuta" i tome slichno...uglavnom nash narod kaze "klin se klinom izbija" i to i te kako vazi u ovom slucaju jer sto vise gledas ovakvo nesto to si vise ravnodusan, i sve manje ti je gadno. Ima neke posebne drazi u tome shto je ovo losh VHS rip i to daje poseban D.I.Y. ugodjaj. Sva ona sakacena ljudi nisu tolko strashna ali posebno jezive i tuzne scene masakra na 100-tine delfina na jednoj pitomoj plazi i borbe pasa i borbe sa bikovima su pravi dokaz da je pakao upravo tu, na Zemlji ("How could Hell be any worse when Earth alone is such a curse ? Fuck Armagedon, this is Hell" by Bad Religion).Osudjuje se ubijanje ljudi (osim u ratovima kad je to zarad "vishih ciljeva") a ovo ubijanje iz zabave je OK. Ljudi su bre stoka tj."Humanity is the devil" sto rekoshe momci iz Integritija. Samo metak u potiljak je reshenje, bez puno emocija, nista lichno. Final solution al za celo chovechanstvo. Serijske ubice su prema ovim zlotvorima rani hrishcani, bogobojazljive, bogougodne komshije, al bez zajebancije. Kakve Srebrenice, kakvi kurci Aushvici, ceo svet je jedan veliki logor smrti. I nema nevinih ("Pathetic lives, every second someone dies" by Deicide - sad zvucim ko oni kreteni iz "Srpskog Psiha" hahaha ZLO!!! :twisted: ). Nek skupe muda pa nek puste ovo na Shok Koridoru a ne tamo neke boze, troma, gore, nezavisni film, trt-mrt, i bez onih komentarisanja, shta ima ovo da se komentarishe ? Dovoljan je ovaj soundtrack.
Dok sam sticajem okolnosti radio u Zatvorskoj Bolnici Centralnog Zatvora na psihijatriji (tamo gde je sad ovaj car iz Jabukovca) nosio sam lesheve preminulih pacijenata 4 sprata peshke jer ne mogu da stanu nosila u mali lift (ljudi tamo u 99 % slucajeva umiru od starosti jer nema ko da ih pokupi, da potpise za njih da bi ih pustili na slobodu) tako da sam oguglao na ove ljudske lesheve, ali ovo sa zivotinjama je stvarno too much. Grozno iskustvo, al tamo sam bar imao chast da se upoznam i da popricham sa pravim srpskim kanibalom Predragom Vinchicem VOBom koji je sredinom 90-ih pojeo dvojicu koji su ga zavlacili za neke pare. Lik od 200 kila (ima onaj genetski poremecaj) i to jako pokretljive mase, za svaki respekt, boluje od multiple personality poremecaja al je nadprosechno inteligentan shto se oseti u samom razgovoru, prosto dominira nad svim ostalim zatvorenicima, i masom i duhom. To treba doziveti jbga, dzaba da vam ja pricam. Mogo bi i ja da se napravim pametan ko ovi metalci iz Valjeva pa da napisem neku knjigu na tu temu, mislim da bi bar imao verodostojne podatke ako nista drugo, a ne da moram da izmishljam totalno nerealne scene ko ova dva kretena. :lol:  
Upozno sam sve bitnije likove sa domace scene, i Milica Milica matorog satanistu sto je zaklo majku, i pitomog drvosechu Djoshu shto stalno prica viceve a maljem je ubio babu misleci da je demon, pa cak i onog iz BIA-e shto je zbog paranoidne shizofreniije poubijao masu svojih kolega, ma sama elita je u pitanju. Nishta ispod pokusaja ubistva tamo ne pushtaju. Stroga selekcija. Nema zajebancije. I posle me neko jos proziva i podjebava sto sam navodno opsednut serijskim ubicama. "Shta chito, ja odo po njemu". I na kraju kao vrhunac svih brutalnosti filma sopstveni snimci El Salvador Death Squad-a u akciji. Skorpioni su mala deca za ove. Ovaj treci deo je 10 puta jachi od chetvrtog o kome sam vec pisao posebno zbog ovih akcija Death Squad-a.



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« Reply #46 on: 10-08-2007, 20:56:48 »
Jedan Jevrejin je napravio dokumentarac u fazonu Majkla Mura na temu teorije zavere o kojoj se prvi put pisalo u chuvenim "Protokolima sionskih mudraca" il kako se vec zove ta knjiga. Pocevshi od teorije da 4000 jevreja nije doslo na posao 11. septembra jer im je bilo javljeno, pa preko raznih drugih anti-semitskih akcija on objashnjava kako je sve to prevara. I to sve naravno stoji ali Jevreji ochigledno ne shvataju ili ne zele da shvate, a to se lepo iz ovoga filma vidi, zashto ih tolko ljudi u celom svetu ne voli. Kolko sam ja skpirao to nije zbog tamo neke knjige koja je realno fabrikovana u Rusiji i nema veze sa istinom, nego zbog proste chinjenice da su oni jedini koji opushteno mogu sebi da naprave drzavu Izrael ni iz chega, proterujuci narod Palestine, i pritom radeci shta god im volja a da im niko nishta ne moze jer im naravno Amerika chuva ledja. I to me jako podseca na nachin kako danas shiptari na Kosovu stvaraju svoju drzavu a to je samo i iskljuchivo keshom, i ja mislim da je to svakom choveku jasno da Amerikanci ne vole shiptare neshto posebno ili ih podrazavju zato shto su im ugrozena ljudska prava ili slicho proseravanje nego ih ko i sav normalan kapitalistichki svet zanima iskljuchivo i samo njihov kesh, isto mislim i za Jevreje. Nije to nikakva jevrejska zavera nego samo njihov kesh putem kojeg oni zatvaraju ochi svetu i rade shta god im je volja na bliskom istoku i svako ko se pobuni smatra se za anti-semitu. I tu logika ne pomaze, kada jevreji kazu da imaju pravo na Izrael to je isto ko kada shiptari kazu da imaju pravo na Kosovo i ceo svet kaze "alal vera". E tu je problem...a necu dalje da pisem o ovome da i mene ne bi proglasili za anti-semitistichki nastrojenog. Uglavnom treba pogledati dokumentarac,jako je zaniljiv, voleo bi da chujem, da vidim shta bi Majkl Mur ima da kaze na ovu tematiku, to bi bilo mnogo zanimljivije.

Protocols of Zion (2005)



Director:
Marc Levin

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A documentary about the rise of anti-Semitism in the USA after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436686/

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« Reply #47 on: 11-08-2007, 11:49:30 »
Jbga kad nema tema obichni dokumentarci meni su svi genijalni...


Evo jednog dokumentarca u fazonu 11. septembar prevara od strane Americke vlade u sta sam i ja jedno vreme bio bash uveren, a danas ne znam shta da mislim iskreno (ima jedna epizoda novijeg South Parka koja odlichno govori o tome) ali ovaj dokumentarac je tako loshe, naivno odradjen ko da su ga pravili upravo ovi iz Vlade da bi smorili ljude po tom pitanju...al zanimljivo za gledanje u svakom sluchaju...preporuchujem. Naime pricha ide iz fazona kako se na snimcima pada kula lepo vidi da se zgrada urusila ko u kontolisanom rusenju eksplozivom i navode kao dokaze da se lepo vide ispod spratova koji propadaju eksplozije, i stvarno se vide mali oblachici dima jasno, ko da je aktiviran eksloziv, a avioni su navodno zamenjeni na jednom aerodromu sa obichnim avionima prepunim goriva bez putnika da bi ekslozija bila jacha, a niko nikad nije ni video shta je zapravo udarilo u Pentagon, jer nema ni ostataka aviona ni bilo kakvog snimka shto zaista jeste sumnjivo da Pentagon nije obezbedjen kamerama (kapiram da jeste al snimaka nema) pa da se lepo vidi avion kako prilazi, pa onda teorija ide kako su zapravo pentagon gadjali tomahavkom sa mora...i tako dalje...interesantno ali nedovoljno uverljivo, zapravo uverljivo u nekim stvarima tipa rushenje kula, pentagon ali onda ko da je neko namerno ubacio neke smejurije da bi napravio od toga sprdnju, pojma nemam, ja i dalje verujem da su to amerikanci uradili sami sebi al uz pomoc Bin Ladena e sad kako, shta, to mi nije jasno...uglavnom ko je dobitnik posle 11. septembra ? Bush jbga...utero strah u kosti narodu, napao sve zive i laganica...to i deca znaju...

Loose Change 2nd Edition (2006)



Director:
Dylan Avery

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An exploration of the viewpoint that the September 11, 2001 attacks were planned by the United States government.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831315/

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« Reply #48 on: 11-08-2007, 11:55:56 »
Loose Change je totalni media-whoring scam, što bi trebalo da je naširoko poznato. Za detaljnu disekciju, preporučujem ovaj odlični tekst Dejvida Wonga

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html

A i Maddox je imao propisno hilarious parodiju na to:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

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« Reply #49 on: 11-08-2007, 12:18:09 »
Pazi, vecina ljudi to ne zna, ja sam slucajno naleteo na njega preturajuci searchom po 9.11 i onda kao aj da vidim shta je to...uglavnom jako lose...bas ko da je pravila americhka vlada ili vec ko...

A ima i ona epizoda South Parka parodija na ovo, gde Cartaman kralj dokazuje na chasu "show and tell" kako su Jevreji krivi za 11. septembar... i onda ko u Second Lose-u uvecava sliku kada padaju kule i pojavljuje se pogash ko : Kajl  :lol:
genijalno, to treba pogledati al ne mogu da se setim koja je epizoda, uglavnom neka iz posledjeg sezone...