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Ghoul:

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ha ha hahaaaa!!!!

izvini harv, mada se u konkretnom slučaju slažem s tobom, u načelu mi je smešno da se TI, od svih ljudi, javljaš glede 'upitnosti' nečijeg ukusa!!!  :D  :D  :D

Alex:
To mi Harvi vraća za one Aliene i Predatore.

U konkretnom slučaju Deadwood je daleko od najboljih TV serijala.

Tex Murphy:

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--- Quote from: "Harvester" ---Alekse, tvoj ukus je... upitan.
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ha ha hahaaaa!!!!

izvini harv, mada se u konkretnom slučaju slažem s tobom, u načelu mi je smešno da se TI, od svih ljudi, javljaš glede 'upitnosti' nečijeg ukusa!!!  :D  :D  :D
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Opraštam ti ovaj maliciozni komentar zbog sjajne posvete i onog komentara o djetetu, ali to neće vječno trajati.

BladeRunner:
Odličan intervju sa jednim pametnim čovjekom koji je usput tvorac serije The Wire. Zanimljiv je i zato što možete pročitati u kakvom stanju je američki obrazovni sistem i uporedite ga sa lokalnim (u kome sam imao sreću da predajem, a i neki od vas, sigurno). Meni djeluje da djeca u Bejrutu imaju srećnije djetinjstvo od crnaca u Baltimoru. Sa druge strane, oduševljava me koliko se ovaj čovjek ne prepušta samosažaljenju i koliko lažno ne lamentira nad sudbinom djece. Jednostavno opisuje situaciju i daje sve od sebe. Uživajte i pozdrav.

Writer and Producer Ed Burns talks to HBO about being a teacher in Baltimore's inner city and how that experience is informing Season 4 of The Wire.


HBO
After 20 years as a cop you became a teacher. How did that come about?
BURNS
After I retired from the Police Department, Dave [Simon] and I wrote The Corner. I'm just a natural loser, so I decided it would be fun to teach in an inner-city school, because that's the kind of world I like. And that's pretty much the amount of thought I gave it until I walked into the room.


HBO
What did you have to do to prepare for the switch?
BURNS
You know, it's not like the teachers are beating down the doors. In a place like Baltimore, most schools start the school year short of teachers. So, if you've got two arms, two legs and two eyes, they're begging for you. Psychologically, there's no way to prepare for it. The closest preparation I think I had was when I went to Vietnam in the infantry.

HBO
Can you describe the classroom a bit? Why is it so challenging?
BURNS
Well, it's how damaged these kids are. I mean, it's profound. You get a class of 35 kids, of which five or six are thugs—what the DSM calls "oppositionally defiant children." So they're fighting and disruptive and cursing you like sailors. Everybody's in motion. The educational range in a classroom, if you're teaching 8th grade, is probably from the first grade to the sixth grade. So you have students who can't read a lick to kids who maybe can read on the sixth grade level. Their needs are so phenomenal on the educational level. And then, as you get to know them, you realize that that is just the crust on the cake. Kids are seeing people killed in front of them. In the first year I was teaching, there were 120 kids in our group; thirteen had been shot. This was in seventh grade. Lots had been stabbed. All of them had been abused, one way or the other. So when you put them in a classroom with a curriculum that doesn't compute with their world, everybody has a way of surviving, right? You have the small boy who becomes a doll for the girls, they're playing with his hair. Other kids are reading magazines, drawing on their desks. Kids are spitting sunflower seeds on the floor. Other kids are drinking vodka from what you thought was a water bottle. And the noise level makes it very difficult for anything to progress. You'd have to keep them off-guard like a boxer, you know. And every once in a while you get a little sliver of a moment to teach. But what you're actually doing is modeling a caring behavior.

HBO
Did you feel that you made headway?
BURNS
Well, when the kids leave me, they're just back in the mix in eighth grade again. What you try to do is present an image that the kids—maybe at some time later on in life, even if they're sitting in prison or something—can reflect on. There's another way of being; it doesn't have to just be the way you see on the street. Because that's all they're getting. The only representative of traditional society that some of these kids see is the teacher. A bad teacher is what they expect, because adults in general are bad. So when they see the adult who's consistent, who's always there, who always comes through with what he said, then that's a new world for them. Kids will give respect where respect is warranted. And I could touch them because they believed that I cared about them. I used to stay at the school for chess club in a computer room, and some of the kids would come up for lunch. When they're really close, when you can really interact with them, they're wonderful, vibrant human beings. But collectively they're a pain in the ass.

HBO
Did you get close to giving up?
BURNS
No, I love teaching. I mean, I truly, truly love to teach.

HBO
How did you translate your experiences to the show?
BURNS
We take the kids from the first episode, where you see them as children and less as adults. And then, as you move through the season, we bring the problems in. We have four distinct personalities that we're following. They're as consistent on the street as in the classroom. Sometimes we think of schools and prisons as being removed from society, places where the street doesn't enter in. But that's not the case. The school is porous. If there's a problem in the neighborhood, there's a problem in the school. A wannabe thug is a wannbe thug in the classroom.

HBO
The idea of education as a theme sounds awfully high-minded. As a storyteller, how do you turn that into a story that affects people?
BURNS
Well, it's not about education as you're thinking about education. Everybody is going to get educated. It's just a question of where. Some people get educated in the classroom, some people get educated in a boxing gym; some people get educated on a corner. So we have adult characters who are the magnets of where you get educated. Marlo is a huge magnet. Cutty and Colvin are trying a different approach. When kids are connected through interest, that's where the process begins. So a kid might be disruptive in class, but when someone is showing them how to load a gun, they're riveted. That's how I see education.

HBO
It's interesting in that these are not the typical primetime TV characters.
BURNS
I think guys like Bodie and Prop Joe and Slim Charles and Marlo are very compelling. They're a group of people you don't get to see and by giving them humanity, and a bureaucracy and you start to like them. You feel sorry for the Bodies of the world when Avon is screwing up on top, and for the Lester Freamons, when Burrell is screwing up at the top. The people that we've had playing these characters over the years have also made them so believable. They're like tools in a tool kit for the writer, because someone like JD Williams, who plays Bodie, or Jamie Hector, who plays Marlo brings so much to a scene with the kids.

HBO
Do you remember how the idea got started that this would be the direction you guys would go this year?
BURNS
Well, each year we've tried to look at one aspect of the city and this was on our list. I think it's neat to find out where these drug dealers and drug addicts are coming from. And where they're coming from is a failed education process. A system which, in this town is abominable. In high schools there's a 70 percent drop-out rate.

HBO
It's unbelievable...
BURNS
No, it's not unbelievable. It's the same in Detroit, it's the same in East St. Louis. It's just not talked about. As with the police department, as with the dying port, there's a disfunctionalism which must have outcomes. And every dying institution, like a dying animal, seeks to protect itself. The schools and Burrell's Police Department were unresponsive, because it's about keeping the world as is, so you're on top of it.

HBO
As a writer, do you enjoy having these long arcs to play out stories organically?
BURNS
It's wonderful, because you can plan something in episode 302 that doesn't blossom until 504. I remember in the second season we had this woman in the background just scrubbing her steps. And you see her in the background, just scrubbing every episode, and the drug dealers are moving closer and closer, until the final episode—they're sitting on her steps and she has a little 'for sale' sign in the window.

HBO
So is there a message that you think people can take away from this year's arc?
BURNS
I think the idea we're trying to bring across is that kids are going to get educated. And that we're going to see where. It's not about kids making bad mistakes and becoming caught in the Criminal Justice system. They don't have an option of choice. We in society have the choices. So you might see a kid who clearly doesn't have a prayer and it will be very apparent why he doesn't have a prayer. It's not about blaming kids. They will survive. They will learn. It's just a question of where.

lenny:
the wire je apsolutno majstorsko delo.
likovi su vrhunski uradjeni, totalno su socni i zabavni, nekako nikad ne znas koji ti najbolji.  i dinamika medju likovim je mnogo jaka. ima toliko dobrih momenata, da bi mogli da pricamo o svakoj epizodi  pojedinacno, a ne o ciklusima.

o samoj policijskoj proceduri blade dovoljno rece, i mene trenutno najvise plasi da ce mi sada svaki policijski film delovati sturo i neozbiljno.

onaj momenat, mislim da je to pretposlednja epizoda prvog ciklusa, onaj uvodni deo, kada McNulty, u bolnici, kaze kako  je glavni razlog za njegov beskompromisni krstaski pohod iskljucivo njegovo dokazivanje ostalima koliko je on dobar i koliko je bolji od njih, koliko je to jako i zajebano, sve u sklopu prethodne price i njegovog lika kao damn good copa, i cele te fore zasto murkani rade to sto rade (bar oni cisti). nesto te snage ne moze da stane u filmu. Ne ovako razradjeno i ovako dobro.
tako da se stvarno plasim da kad god mi bilo koji sledeci murkan bude objasnjavao zasto on radi to sto radi (mislim u nekom filmu ili seriji naravno :)) , ima da mi deluje smesno i jeftino.

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