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džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #950 on: 19-09-2020, 00:19:57 »
ovaj stan je, koliko vidim na prvu, legitiman, ako Peovićka ima preveliku imovinu sa drugim stanovima i računima to je posebna priča

svako živ je slično plaćao stan

sve je to (jos) legitimno, samo je vrlo gadljivo. osobe koje slicno izvode srecem uz veliki prezir.
"svako ziv je slicno placao stan". inace ti je jasno da je jugoslavija ima 30% nezaposlenih, 30% obespravljenih na mizernim placama koji drustvenom stanu nisu mogli prici ni u snovima, te 30% peovicki?

Labudan

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #951 on: 19-09-2020, 00:21:36 »
jasno mi je da je gini indeks bio veći u Njemačkoj 1970. nego u SFRJ, a sad je obrnuto, tako da kakiš po običaju
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #952 on: 19-09-2020, 10:38:20 »
pa dobro, kolika ti moras biti budala da bitangu poput peovicke podrzavas, sve sto ispusta nekoliko poluretardiranih borbenih bez smisla?
je li tebi jasno sta ta "kupovina" stana govori o mentalnom sklopu i kakavi su to strucnjaci? cak i po shvacanju da kredit na 26 godina.

evo ti po 26 godina:

znaci, 1995. drugovi peovic nalaze se u prilici da zbrinuti na trilion nacina, tu je kucerina, imobilije razne rasute po zemlji, uhljebljena sva zamisliva, odlicni prihodi (znaci, kao i za juge). crvena burzoazija.

pa 1995. kad trecina zemlje tesko razorena, ratno/poratno stanje, vecina naroda doslovno krpa kraj sa krajem i skapava, sve stoji i dok drzava doslovno prosi po inozemstvu na svim razinama za najelementarnije stavke, tko god sta ima donira joj novac, 1995. drugovi peovic kupuju za 10k eura lijepi stan od 70m2 na prekrasnoj lokaciji u zagrebu. za 10k eura! i tako uhljebljeni ne plate ni tih 10k eura, vec kao uhljebi opljackaju zemlju, narod i radnika koji prose po svijetu cak i za tih 10k eura. izvuku drzavni (!) kredit u kunama (!), uz 1% (!) kamate, na 26 (!) godina. to je identicno kao da zagrabio u drzavnu kasu i ukrao, posluzio se.
koji je to mentalni skolp i obraz, to uciniti? i onda jos docirati iz pozicije uhljeblja na faksu i u saboru, nazvati se radnicka fronta, sve radniku kojeg doslovno desetljecima pljackali?!

sta mislis sta bi radniku 1995. rekla bilo koja banka na svijetu da uz kamatu od 1% zatrazio ultra-dugorocni kredit u kunama? umrli bi od smijeha. pod takvim uslovima nikad ne bi vratili posudjeni novac ni da vezano uz devize, a kuna je 1995. mogla proci jos nekoliko ciklusa devalvacije. to nije kredit, vec pljacka drzave. ne moze se odobriti kredit uz 1% na 26 godina u kunama. ni danas, a 1995. ja bih, ako bih i nasao neku ludu banku, morao platiti najmanje 8%, pa i do 12%. peovicki, kao i osobi koja im je to omogucila, je mjesto u zatvoru, ne u saboru. a tocka na i je sto je to jedan mizerni iznos koji posluzio za kupovinu stana od 70m2 u zagrebu (sto je van pameti samo po sebi), a nije se moglo odoliti ni da se taj mizerni iznos ne opljacka od naroda u doba kad drzava prosila po svijetu.

džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #953 on: 19-09-2020, 11:47:05 »
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U tekstu koji je pisala za Večernji list Peović je navela i mjeru uzimanja i preraspodjele ušteđevina većih od 100.000 eura.
"Riječ je o tome da bogata manjina drži većinu novca
, a i HNB je upozoravao da imamo veliku štednju."




da ti stane pamet.






džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #954 on: 19-09-2020, 14:18:11 »
poslije uvida u financije i fantasticne sposobnosti zadriglih jugokomunista, t.j. gromoglasnih izjava i realnog osobnog obrasca ponasanja, imamo i te, jelte, antifasiste u medijima, novinare. tako i dana figenwalda koji je novinario u jutarnjem listu i po drustvenim mrezama, doslovno grizao sve oko sebe sto bi imalo veze sa demokratskom hrvatskom ili crkvom, nabacivao se primjerice izjavama poput

Gledam danas vijesti, mise su i dalje glavna tema. Gledam i jednu gđu Vjernicu koja kaže da je jedva dočekala i da je osjećaj – savršen. Dakle, savršen je. Ok.
Može li mi netko pojasniti koji je točno dio savršen, ne zajebavam – baš bih volio znati. Je li to slušanje ljudi u haljinama, od kojih je barem jedan imao priliku, i tu priliku iskoristio, pipkati kakvog dječarca iz kvarta.


i sad, kad smo vec kod pipkanja djecarca, oko druga figenwalda zadnjih tjedana imamo muk. nema druga, mediji sute, drug novinar suti. sta se desilo?
drug je mamio djevojcice diljem mreze, kako izjavljuje policija

“Obavještavamo Vas da su policijski službenici Policijske uprave zagrebačke proveli kriminalističko istraživanje nad 51-godišnjakom zbog sumnje u počinjenje kaznenog djela „Mamljenje djece za zadovoljenje spolnih potreba“

te sjedi u pritvoru.
uzivajte:

Što je novinar Jutarnjeg lista, osumnjičen za pedofiliju, objavljivao o vjernicima, Željki Markić, Marijani Petir, Mostu…?

lijepo ga se ulovilo, danas je to relativno tesko, ta scena prebacila se sa specijaliziranih stranica na drustvene mreze. uglavnom, eto, veliki kriticar pedofilije u crkve mami djecu u svrhu zadovoljavanja spolne potrebe izjavama poput

“S 15 neke cure idu u Milano, a neke se igraju ispred zgrade… Sve zavisi o ambicijama“

a neke cure ocigledno nisu cure, posebno kad se pri chatu sa curom moras bas jako, jako truditi da dobijes neku obnazenu sliku, kao novinar jutarnjeg lista figenwald.

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Narod.hr doznaje zapravo staru vijest, za koju na žalost ni javnost nije doznala. Zašto mediji poput Jutarnjeg lista ili Večernjeg lista za koje je radio nemaju obvezu informirati javnost o ovom slučaju, a čine to o brojnim osumnjičenima za najrazličitije druge stvari. Također, Figenwald je po svemu sudeći putem autoriteta rada za te medije pristupao djevojčicama.
Zagrebački novinar Figenwald, uhićen je početkom rujna, a putem Facebooka mamio je maloljetnu djevojčicu. Navodno je tražio od nje da se razgoliti, slika i potom mu pošalje fotografiju, a oni bi joj zauzvrat dao novac i još se pohvalio da radi za Jutarnji list. Ona ga je odbila, a on ju je dalje nagovarao.

Labudan

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #955 on: 20-09-2020, 11:48:28 »
o bre, zoljo, pričaš kao da drugi građani nisu imali apsolutno iste uslove riješavanja stambenog pitanja

dakle, jesu imali, plus lažeš za nejednakost u Hrvatskoj. Ona je danas veća nego u socijalizmu
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #956 on: 30-09-2020, 21:03:17 »
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/how-memes-lulz-and-ironic-bigotry-won-internet/616427/?utm_source=feed
 
 
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Remember when the internet used to be fun? Whitney Phillips does. The digital anthropologist was recently looking through a huge set of images from the late 2000s that had been posted to Reddit. The first comment described the era as “a more simple time,” and sure enough, the pictures were weird, silly, and creative. Talking cows. Cats playing video games. A bear on a golf course. A guy Photoshopped to have mouths for eyes.
Then she noticed something else. Something disturbing. The thread began, she wrote recently, “with a lighthearted meme about Hitler.” After that was “dehumanizing mockery of a child with disabilities. And more sneering mockery of an old man hooked up to an oxygen tank. And date rape. And violence against animals. And fat shaming. And homophobia. And racism. And pedophilia. And how hilarious 9/11 was.”
If you’ve spent any time online, you will have imbibed both the aesthetic and, perhaps, the ethics of “meme culture” or “internet culture.” This is the mashed-up jumble of images, jargon, and folk art that gushed out of sites such as 4chan, Reddit, and Tumblr from the late 2000s. The look was lo-fi and absurdist, and the tone was eye-rolling, cynical, self-aware. Blocky white letter captions on pictures of exaggerated facial expressions. “HALP,” “OHRLY,” “KTHXBYE.” Adorable cat GIFs.In the 2000s and early 2010s, Phillips was one of a group of academics, activists, and intellectuals who studied memes, and promoted the idea of the web as a space of unfettered, anarchic creation. The revolution would be user-generated. (The founders of social networks—primarily young, carefree, middle-class white Americans—agreed.) Okay, the argument went, this outpouring of creativity had its darker elements, but that was part of its countercultural charm. The casual sadism of trolling was just “lulz,” which shouldn’t be taken seriously. Sexism, racism, and other hatreds were being invoked for nothing more than shock value. It was ironic, duh.
In 2009, she attended a live show called Meme Factory, which aimed to explain this new language of the internet. Three young men sat in front of microphones, talking deliberately fast, occasionally projecting pictures onto the screen behind them. There were “fails”; there were “owns”; the viewers didn’t have to think much about the people who were the butt of the joke. The first Meme Factory
 
 with a disclaimer about its offensive content, delivered in front of a picture of a white cat captioned with what was a popular phrase at the time: Internet. Serious Business. Phillips remembers laughing until she cried at a repeat performance the next year. There was an assumption that everyone in the room “got it,” that they understood who was being satirized—the racists and the homophobes—and that everything was just for lulz.But the blizzard of memes didn’t allow any time to distinguish between the cute and the offensive, the innocuous and the hateful. One section, Phillips recalled, showed “several internet-infamous young white women who had inspired widespread mockery online.” Such women, the three men explained, were referred to as “camwhores.” When the photograph of one flashed on-screen, the crowd booed. A man in the audience shouted: “Kill her!”
Phillips, an assistant communications professor at Syracuse University, now thinks she got it wrong. All that ironic racism doesn’t feel so ironic anymore. “I don’t even know exactly when it totally shifted,” she told me, from her yellow-painted living room in Syracuse, New York, her hands anxiously fluttering around her face as we spoke over Zoom. “What seemed to be fun and funny ended up functioning as a Trojan horse for white-supremacist, violent ideologies to shuffle through the gates and not be recognized.”
The 2010s were the decade when internet culture ate real life; when the boundary between “IRL” and “on the internet” dissolved. By the time the decade ended, a certain kind of liberal was forced to accept that we had been far too complacent about how dark politics could get, and how the ironically awful parts of the internet helped that to happen. Many others have walked down the same path of recognition as Phillips. What was once dismissed as “trolling” is now recognized as harassment and abuse; where flat earthers and 9/11 truthers once seemed laughable, today’s conspiracy theorists commit acts of violence.Watching the Meme Factory video again a decade later, what once seemed like consequence-free, playful transgression now looked toxic. The shout of “Kill her!,” which anticipated the sexism of Gamergate, was particularly haunting. “Too many of us just didn’t see it, or if we did, we just didn’t think it was real misogyny,” Phillips said. “The mystique of lulz, the fun of lulz, was too ethically paralyzing.”
Actual-bigotry-camouflaged-as-ironic-bigotry seems like a new phenomenon, perhaps even a quintessentially 21st-century one, dependent on a mashup of consumerism and pop culture and being Very Online. Modern extremism often comes with elements of silliness and ridiculousness. Look at the “boogaloo” movement, a militia named after the obscure ’80s film Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo, whose followers expect a second civil war in the United States. They are preparing for that eventuality by attending anti-lockdown protests and gun-rights rallies in jaunty Hawaiian shirts under stab vests, carrying assault weapons. Look at the extraordinary set of beliefs held by QAnon conspiracists, about sex-trafficking satanists operating in family restaurants. Look at Pepe the cartoon frog, a symbol that white supremacists co-opted from its creator, who once shamefacedly explained that it was so named because it sounded like pee-pee. To misquote The Big Lebowski, say what you like about the tenets of national socialism, but at least the Nazis took themselves seriously.But that’s not right—bigotry and absurdity have long been intertwined. The Ku Klux Klan adopted a deliberately ridiculous name, and Klansmen claimed that they came from the moon, the historian Elaine Frantz Parsons writes in Ku-Klux. They endeavored “to portray victims’ entirely rational fear of their physical violence as though it were superstition or gullibility. The victim, tellingly, failed to ‘get the joke,’ allowing himself or herself to be frightened by ‘ghosts’ or ‘devils.’” The pattern repeated itself in the 20th century. “The Nazis were dedicated trolls who weaponized their insincerity to take advantage of liberal societies ill-equipped to confront them,” as my colleague Adam Serwer put it.
That comparison is also made by Robert Evans, a journalist with the investigative website Bellingcat. When I reached him late one night after he’d spent the day covering protests in Portland, Oregon, his tone was apocalyptic and his delivery staccato. He told me the story of Hans Litten, a Jewish lawyer who prosecuted Nazi paramilitaries for an attack on a dance hall in 1931, and therefore had the chance to cross-examine Hitler. At a time when foreign correspondents and diplomats were still joking about the future dictator’s clownishness, vulgarity, and overheated rhetorical style—and arguing that his overt anti-Semitism, disregard for the law, and advocacy of violence were just tactics to whip up his base—Litten took him seriously. He questioned Hitler carefully, exposing his double-faced strategy: street violence to galvanize an army of thugs, overlaid with a veneer of plausible gentility to attract middle-class voters.Litten embarrassed Hitler, but did not win the case. And as soon as Hitler came to power in 1933, the lawyer was arrested. After five years of torture and hard labor, Litten killed himself in Dachau.
Evans saw parallels between the world’s refusal to heed Litten’s warnings and his own quest to report on violent militias in the United States. He was worried that far-right extremists—some of whom he had seen in Portland, when the Trump administration sent armed officers from a ragbag of federal agencies to quell protests in the city—were hiding in plain sight, exploiting the plausible deniability created by irony. Take the “OK” hand gesture. To some self-identified trolls, it has been a good joke to hoax the mainstream media into reporting that something so innocuous is a white-supremacist symbol. (Do you find that funny?) But then a theme-park employee in Orlando, Florida, made the sign while posing for a photograph with a 6-year-old Black girl. (Still funny?) And then a mass shooter made the sign in the dock after killing 49 people in New Zealand with a rifle inscribed with the number 14, having left behind a manifesto about “the great replacement” of the white race. (Still funny?)
Extremists “rile people up by making these symbols and then denying that there’s anything racist about them,” Evans told me. “The goal is to make people who are actually watching out for this shit look like they’re crazy to folks who haven’t been paying enough attention to this.”In other words, don’t be distracted by the silly cartoon frog that extremists have appropriated; worry about the existence of so many extremists posting Pepe memes. Don’t look at the gaudy aloha shirts the militiamen are wearing; look at the serious weapons they’re carrying. Don’t focus on the fact that QAnon asks supporters to believe that Donald Trump is our only defense against cannibalistic satanists; focus on how they will react if he loses in November.
The story of Litten reminded me of another courtroom drama, this one in 2013. The occasion was the sentencing of Andrew Auernheimer, a hacker otherwise known as “weev,” for exposing a security flaw at the telecoms company AT&T. At the time, he was variously described as a “troll,” an “asshole,” the “internet’s best terrible person” and “just an expert pain in the online butt.”
There is another way to describe him: a neo-Nazi. Since leaving prison, Auernheimer has served as the webmaster of The Daily Stormer, an explicitly Nazi website. He has a swastika tattoo on his chest. In writings scattered across the internet, he gives out advice on how to radicalize left-wingers and liberals, boasting that “9 messages is all it takes to get a likely Bernie Sanders supporter asking where they can sign up for the race war.”Not that you would have guessed this from the contemporary accounts of Auernheimer’s sentencing. Writing for Medium in 2014, his friend Quinn Norton, another champion of internet culture, described him as “far from innocent,” “no hero,” and a “witch for this century.” The words racist and Nazi do not appear, although she concedes that “his skin is pale, and he often talks like a white supremacist, at least around people that are likely to react to such things.” It is a telling construction, framing Auernheimer’s overt racism as a posture—a windup to those not sophisticated enough to understand the deliberately offensive register of trolling, the kind of normies who would take offense at the name of his organization, GNAA, where the second letter stands for the N-word.
I put this to Norton: Her friend didn’t “talk like a white supremacist”; he was a white supremacist. The normies who reacted with horror were correct, and the geeks who brushed it off were wrong. She was hard to pin down, veering instead into a story about the siege of Münster, Germany, and its relationship to the rise of pamphleteering in medieval Europe. “The internet didn’t make any of these problems,” she replied over WhatsApp. “It just intensifies things … When I was working with [the hacker group] Anonymous in 2011, everything was offensive, but nothing was personal, and that was the point. The white supremacists can hide in that, but it’s not their actual thing.”Meme culture originally came from the 4chan bulletin board, as did Anonymous. The atmosphere of the site is hard to describe: a frenetic churn of slurs, porn, in-jokes, and random conversations. Everyone is anonymous, which has strange results. It’s incredibly hard for outsiders to understand what’s going on, and every user is assumed to be a young American white man. (Two common phrases sum up the attitude: “There are no girls on the internet” and “Tits or GTFO,” as in, show your breasts or get out.) The resulting culture had little patience for progressive politics, whose supporters were assumed to have a victim mentality, and, worse, no sense of humor. Too many women and minorities were hung up on “identity politics” whereas, in this formulation, being a white man was not an identity but the default state of humanity. Not taking offense at sexism proved that you were one of the guys.
Those who championed Auernheimer as a “trickster” before his sentencing follow a narrative that prison changed him. This argument is heavily resisted by the game developer Kathy Sierra, who was a victim of one of his harassment campaigns five years before the AT&T case—he posted her address and Social Security details online. She received death threats. The way she sees it, being blasé about Auernheimer’s sexist harassment was a gateway drug to being blasé about his other opinions. “It was only when his racism became too blatant to ignore that his former champions began to back away,” Sierra told me over email. “The horrific things he did to women had very little impact.”The irony, shocking humor, and plausible deniability that Auernheimer learned to cultivate in troll circles is now being put to use in white-supremacist recruitment. In 2017, HuffPost obtained the style guide for The Daily Stormer. “Generally, when using racial slurs,” the guide advises, “it should come across as half-joking—like a racist joke everyone laughs at because it’s true. This follows the generally light tone of the site. It should not come across as genuinely raging vitriol. That is a turnoff to the overwhelming majority of people.” The site should draw people in through “naughty humor” before they are “slowly awakened to reality,” the guide adds, before recommending that would-be contributors read chapter six of Mein Kampf.
It was that book—Hitler’s political memoir—that made Evans realize just how serious some of the users of 4chan’s politics board, /pol/, were about their beliefs. In the middle of “ironic Holocaust meme threads,” he found long arguments about “different translations of Mein Kampf, and which were truest to the spirit of what Hitler was trying to get across. That’s not fucking around, you know?”
By the way, present at the very first Meme Factory performance, watching the crowd laugh at a satirical deconstruction of white supremacy? Andrew Auernheimer.
When did the fun turn sour? When I spoke with Phillips’s regular collaborator Ryan Milner, he recalled submitting a journal article on memes in 2013. One of the reviewers criticized him for casually including images of people who had not consented to being the butt of a thousand viral jokes. “It was basically calling me flippant,” he told me over the phone. “I went, Man, that reviewer is right.”Milner realized that he had viewed the memes with “fetishized sight,” a term derived from Marx, which describes how we fixate on the object in front of us and ignore how it was made. It’s the same process that allows us to look at a dirt-cheap item of clothing and refuse to consider how it could possibly be produced for so little. In 2010, when the “Bed Intruder” meme racked up 147 million views on YouTube, people all over the internet laughed at the funny Auto-Tuned remix of a man being interviewed by a news reporter: “Hide your kids, hide your wife … They’re raping everybody out here.” Except the man in question was talking about the attempted rape of his sister. How did he feel about the viral mockery? How did she feel? Jokes about rape were a staple of meme culture, based around the idea that it was shocking to joke about the worst thing that could happen to you. Except, of course, for an American man outside the prison system, it wasn’t all that likely to happen to you.
It happened to Phillips, though. She was raped in 2010, she told me, “four feet from the spot where I sat every night and collected all of my data to write my dissertation, which turned into my book.” (She did not file a police report because she was not ready to go public, and because she feared that the trolls she was studying would find out.) Her abuser used the language of lulz to justify his behavior: Friends would see the bruises on her arms, and he would shrug it off as horseplay. When I asked Phillips if she was okay with me writing about her rape, she said yes. She wanted to acknowledge how the trauma had affected her life and her work. “I cannot tell you how much I regret the fact that it took me experiencing violence to be able to understand what violence was for others,” she added.Mike Rugnetta, one of the writers behind Meme Factory, told me he, too, now regrets increasing the notoriety of “hateful communities on places like 4chan and Reddit while proselytizing for the more positive aspects of ‘user-generated content.’” The way the show “brushed off” offensive content, he added, “must—must—have hurt some portion of our audience in the process. That thought alone is enough to make my stomach churn.”
For many others, the watershed came later, with Trump’s election. Whatever else he was, the aspiring president was funny. He made shock-humor remarks—tame by the standards of 4chan, but jaw-dropping by the staid standards of mainstream politics—on Rosie O’Donnell’s weight, Ted Cruz’s wife’s looks, John McCain’s capture in Vietnam. He often behaved, at debates with Hillary Clinton, like a heckler. Even now, he regularly draws laughs from unsympathetic audiences: Asked recently by a White House reporter about whether he was really saving the world from “cannibal pedophiles,” he deadpanned: “Is that supposed to be a bad thing?”
By contrast, social-justice activists have often looked like buzzkills. The rise of social media has exacerbated fears that “you can’t say that,” and a majority of Americans (including racial minorities) believe “political correctness has gone too far.” In this climate, offensive jokes are re-spun as “punching up”: The target isn’t oppressed minorities, but a tiny group of liberal elites who want the world to talk like a stern email from the HR department.In 2016, reporters struggled with these invisible incentives. Who wants to look out of touch with “real America” or like a joyless nag? Millennial reporters on the internet-culture beat gleefully shared the “dankest” pro-Trump memes, even as their colleagues on the politics and opinion desks snickered over Trump’s rambling speeches, oddly capitalized tweets, and contradictory statements. The tone was eye-rolling, cynical, self-aware. We get the joke.
As the campaign wore on, an argument broke out about whether Trump, like the trolls, should be taken “seriously” or “literally,” and whether his racism and indulgence of violence at campaign rallies were truly sinister or “just” the behavior of a political entertainer playing to his base. But so what if he was calling Mexicans rapists only for the lulz, as a windup, to shock the libs? The effect—the weakening of taboos and democratic norms—was real.
Trump’s victory prompted a bout of soul-searching about what, exactly, internet hipsters had been prepared to tolerate, as well as the knowing, complacent tone the media had adopted when covering “ironic” hate speech. Former champions of internet culture felt the chill of a new consensus. Norton’s immersion in trolling culture derailed her career. In 2018, she was hired, and then fired, by The New York Times within a span of six hours. The newspaper said it was unaware of tweets such as one from 2013 in which Norton described an antagonist as a “shit eating hypersensitive little crybaby fag.” She said that to be accepted in hacker circles, she had used “taboo” and “in-group” language—and that as a pacifist, she was unable to reject Auernheimer’s friendship, even though she abhorred his views.The mood had changed. After a six-year break, the Meme Factory returned in 2017 with a one-off show addressing the role of memes in fueling racism and the “alt-right.” It was called “The Internet Was a Mistake.”
Last year, the FBI warned against “fringe conspiracy theories” as a domestic terror threat. One of these is QAnon, which has retooled the most powerful anti-Semitic tract ever published—The Protocols of the Elders of Zion—for the internet age. It also revives old slurs, but instead of openly accusing Jews of drinking the blood of gentile children, various euphemisms are employed: “Coastal elites,” “Hollywood,” and “George Soros” are now said to be harvesting a chemical called adrenochrome to prolong their life spans. In July, Twitter imposed restrictions on 150,000 accounts linked to QAnon. A month later, Facebook deleted a QAnon group with 200,000 members as part of a wider crackdown. TikTok has blocked QAnon-related hashtags from search results.
Still, because much of the discussion is happening in closed groups, regular internet users can be happily oblivious to its scale. There have been several acts of violence linked to QAnon already, and some supporters talk in apocalyptic terms about the election. One woman interviewed by Time recently said that she was so worried about child trafficking by “the cabal” that if Joe Biden wins the presidential election, “I would probably take my children and sit in the garage and turn my car on, and it would be over.” Some might turn their fear outwards, onto the world. Evans of Bellingcat estimates that there are “a couple of million” Americans who would support fascism. Other experts demur—Joseph Uscinski, who researches QAnon, believes that less than 5 percent of Americans support violence against the government. “Who knows the percentage of who’s actually a Nazi?” said Phillips, referring to sites such as 4chan and its successors 8chan and 8kun. “But what you can say is that the people who spend time in those spaces are people who certainly have the stomach for it.”It’s not hard to find experts who think that America’s security services ignored the threat of far-right extremists in the post-9/11 years because they were so focused on Islamist terror. Now, at last, the ground is shifting. In February, Jill Sanborn of the FBI told Congress that “the greatest threat we face in the homeland today is that posed by lone actors radicalized online who look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons.”
Today, we can’t pretend that what happens online stays online. Its tendrils have crept into our everyday lives: A SWAT officer was pictured next to Vice President Mike Pence wearing a QAnon patch; a QAnon supporter won the Republican primary in Georgia. Female and minority politicians are assailed with the kind of language that would have been unthinkable 10 years ago.
Phillips told me that she dealt with the trauma of her rape and her immersion in sadistic trolling communities by dissociating. The British mental-health charity Mind describes dissociation as feeling “detached from your body or … as though the world around you is unreal.” That is, unfortunately, also a good description of being online, particularly the kind of online where the hours spent down a digital rabbit hole begin to seem more like real life than the three-dimensional world. The casual abuse of Twitter, the consumption of memes at the expense of their subjects and the “ironic” use of hate speech make the internet a giant machine for crushing empathy. We need to rebuild our connections with other people. “You have to think from the perspective of the butt of the joke,” said Milner.The contrition of the champions of internet culture is part of a broader story of liberal disillusionment. Very few would claim, as Barack Obama did in his victory speech in 2008, echoing Martin Luther King, that “the arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice.” The anarchists, intellectuals, and geeks who thought taboos were for normies didn’t see the snake in the grass, because they thought that its poison was safely confined to history. It was a heady mix of privilege and naïveté, built on the promise of the internet as a space without repercussions.
“I was part of those circles,” said Phillips. “So this is not me pointing the finger at other people and saying they were bad. This is my own personal failing, in the context of lots of other structural, systemic failures … We didn’t have to think about consequences.”
Now, though, Phillips thinks about the consequences all the time. The consequences have ruined women’s lives. The consequences have terrified families at restaurants and worshippers in synagogues. The consequences are in the White House.

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« Reply #957 on: 11-11-2020, 22:48:49 »
Proud Boys Infighting Sees Leading Member Form Breakaway Group to Fight 'White Genocide' 
 
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 Writing on encrypted messaging app Telegram, Chapman used racial slurs against Tarrio and other neo-Nazi rhetoric while announcing that the "grifting leaders" had been deposed and the group would be renamed the Proud Goys. The term "goy"—a Hebrew word for a non-Jewish person—is sometimes used by white supremacists to signal their anti-Semitic beliefs, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
 
"We will no longer cuck to the left by appointing token negroes as our leaders. We will no longer allow homosexuals or other 'undesirables' into our ranks. We will confront the Zionist criminals who wish to destroy our civilization.
"We recognize that the West was built by the White Race alone and we owe nothing to any other race."

 
Ali što reče predsednik Tramp: Stand back and stand by.

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« Reply #958 on: 11-11-2020, 23:18:30 »
Proud Boys baš zvuči gej.
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

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« Reply #959 on: 11-11-2020, 23:31:15 »
Udbaš Boys
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« Reply #960 on: 22-12-2020, 22:13:05 »
antifasizam u slovackoj:

Bratislava oduzela Staljinu, a dala sv. Ivanu Pavlu II. titulu počasog građanina

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Bratislava, glavni grad Slovačke, oduzeo je titulu počasnog građanina sovjetskom, komunističkom diktatoru Josifu Staljinu i prvom komunističkog predsjedniku Čehoslovačke Klementu Gottwaldu.

Gradsko vijeće Bratislave donijelo je odluku na zasjedanju 17. prosinca. Istodobno, titulu počasnog građanina dodijelili sv. Ivanu Pavlu II i to na prijedlog Jana Figea, bivšeg istaknutog demokršćanskog političara i povjerenika Europske komisije, a sada predsjednika uprave Zaklade Anton Tunega.

Titula počasnog građanina dodijeljena je pokojnom papi kao priznanje za njegov izuzetan odnos prema Slovačkoj i Bratislavi, te kao zahvalnost i poštovanje prema njemu i njegovoj ostavštini. Papa Ivan Pavao II. posjetio je Bratislavu tri puta, prenosi The Slovak Spectator.

S druge strane, vijećnici su glasali za ukidanje titule počasnog građanina Staljinu i Gottwaldu zbog njihovih postupaka, koje smatraju nespojivim s takvom nagradom. Počasnu titulu Staljin je dobio 1946., Gottwald dvije godine kasnije.


antifasizam u tuposlavena (ne)radnicke fronte:



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Baja Mali Knindza
Ni Metra Vise

ref: Nedamo ti Tudjmane ni metra,
otadzbine naseg kralja Petra!

I- U Krajini pravoslavne svece,
nikad niko ugasiti nece.
Dok je Srba i Krajine bice,
jos radjaju majke Obilice.

II- Zelio si Petrinju i Glinu,
sahovnicu da stavis u Kninu.
A znao si nece biti tako...

antifasizam u africi:


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« Reply #961 on: 22-12-2020, 22:22:22 »
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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« Reply #962 on: 22-12-2020, 22:27:30 »
znas kad je krenuo taj prosvjed kobile peovic i teletabija, briga za radnika? kad je propalo srpsko preuzimanje krasa...

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« Reply #963 on: 22-12-2020, 23:25:05 »
Srbi ne posjeduju fabrike slatkiša ni u svojoj zemlji
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« Reply #964 on: 22-12-2020, 23:28:09 »
istrazi, zlocesti ivica i marica.

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« Reply #965 on: 23-12-2020, 00:09:07 »
pronasao:

Preuzimanje Kraša - Dobro unovčeno radničko dioničarstvo

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Veliko finale borbe za većinsko vlasništvo nad Krašem d.d., u kojemu su radnici udruženi u ESOP prihvatili ponudu Mesne industrije Braća Pivac da prodaju dionice po jediničnoj cijeni od 861,20 kuna, a nisu se odlučili za prodaju srpskom poduzetniku Nebojši Šaranoviću koji je nudio više od tisuću kuna za dionicu...


ovako nekako: radnici su drzali dio dionica krasa koji lijepo posluje. krenulo srpsko preuzimanje preko ciparske firme, pa lijepa ponuda za radnicke dionice, oko 1k kuna/1, a oni su odbili i prodali braci pivac po nekih 800 kuna/1 da se nista ne promijeni, kras i dalje posluje kao i uvijek. e onda je kobila dovela teletabije iz (ne)radnicke fronte da radnicima sve objasni (slika koju si stavio), da ih zastiti od sopstvenih zabluda...

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« Reply #966 on: 23-12-2020, 00:29:54 »
sjooo, što si glup

znači hrvatskih vlasnika srpskih fabrika ima 30

Šaranović kupi 30% Kraša, srbokomunistička agresija

idi popij lekić
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« Reply #967 on: 23-12-2020, 00:36:07 »
izmice ti fokus, ali naviklo se.
nije tu naglasak na vlasnistvu, vec na kobili, kad se kobila aktivira. radnici su valjda pogrijesili sto su prodali za nizu cijenu no sto mogli, pa ih je peovicka uzela pod zastitu... :cry:

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« Reply #968 on: 23-12-2020, 00:39:56 »
ne, radnici su izgubili kontrolu nad tvornicom a onaj ko je kupio nametnuo je gore uslove rada, vrlo jednostavno
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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« Reply #969 on: 23-12-2020, 00:47:03 »
to kaze i peovicka. lose su odabrali. da su birali pravilno, ne bi morali izricati samokritiku, ovako ce ih drndati i drndati dok im ne objasni da su nezadovoljni. prodas nesto za 800 kuna umjesto 1000, zamisli.

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« Reply #970 on: 23-12-2020, 00:50:01 »
potpuno besmisleno, kao i uvijek
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« Reply #971 on: 23-12-2020, 00:59:35 »
ma nije, pogledaj sliku koju si postavio: sve vrvi od zahvalnih radnika. dovela kobila pet teletabija sa transparentom da im pomogne shvatiti da su nezadovoljni, a oni se okupili i klicu...

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« Reply #972 on: 23-12-2020, 01:05:19 »
da, peovićka nekome treba da bi shvatio da je nezadovoljan, to je štih koji nedostaje
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« Reply #973 on: 24-12-2020, 11:48:43 »
https://www.nacional.hr/rf-trazi-dvostruki-staz-za-zdravstveno-osoblje-covid-pacijenata

Zole molim te reaguj, opet Srbi zauzimaju položaje u Hrvatskoj
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« Reply #975 on: 01-01-2021, 21:34:39 »
zole na aparatima
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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« Reply #977 on: 09-01-2021, 22:08:26 »

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« Reply #978 on: 10-01-2021, 23:33:44 »
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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« Reply #979 on: 04-02-2021, 21:17:24 »

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« Reply #980 on: 16-03-2021, 20:27:17 »

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« Reply #981 on: 08-04-2021, 20:10:16 »
Mišetić odgovorio srpskom Ministarstvu vanjskih poslova zbog velikosrpske propagande

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Ministarstvo vanjskih poslova Republike Srbije na Twitteru u srijedu je objavilo sljedeći sadržaj na engleskome jeziku:

“Prije 50 godina, pripadnici hrvatske ultranacionalističke terorističke organizacije-Ustaše smrtno su ranili Vladimira Rolovića, veleposlanika Jugoslavije u Norveškoj, Japanu i konačno u Švedskoj, dok je služio kao jugoslavenski veleposlanik u Švedskoj. Preminuo je od ozljeda 8 dana kasnije.”

Hrvatskoj javnosti poznato je kako srpska diplomacija često koristi svjetsku pozornicu radi ocrnjivanja Hrvata i hrvatske države, a pogotovo u razdoblju Drugog svjetskog rata i nakon njega, u vrijeme komunističke diktature Josipa Broza Tita u Jugoslaviji. Srpski državni vrh gotovo unisono preuveličava broj žrtava u jasenovačkom logoru za vrijeme Nezavisne Države Hrvatske, no sada je putem službenog profila Ministarstva vanjskih poslova na Twitteru, pokušalo manipulirati atentatom na visokopozicioniranog jugoslavenskog agenta i zločinca – ne navodeći kontekst atentata, no na njihovu objavu reagirao je ugledni odvjetnik Luka Mišetić, najpoznatiji po obrani hrvatskog generala Ante Gotovine pred haaškim tribunalom:

“Vladimir Rolović također je bio visoki dužnosnik jugoslavenske tajne policije (UDBA), te je sam sudjelovao u političkim atentatima i upravljao jednim od najozloglašenijih komunističkih zatvorskih logora, Golim otokom, gdje je nadzirao masovna kršenja ljudskih prava političkih zatvorenika”, pojasnio je Mišetić.

Inače, Rolovića je ubio Miro Barešić, koji je i sam proveo 6 mjeseci na Golom otoku jer je odbio služiti vojni rok u JNA. Cilj mu nije bio atentat, već otmica radi razmjene političkih zatvorenika. Barešić je bio hrvatski politički emigrant te je većinu svog života proveo izvan hrvatske domovine.

Za vrijem života služio je vojsku u Paragvaju, a u Hrvatsku se vratio tijekom velikosrpske agresije 1991. godine. Služio je Zbor narodne garde, preteču Hrvatske vojske. U Hrvatsku se vratio pod imenom Božidar Smotalić, te je potom uzeo treće ime – Marko Marić. Poginuo je samo tri tjedna nakon dolaska u Hrvatsku, a okolnosti pogibije u selu Mirane Donje kod Benkovca ni do danas nisu posve razjašnjene.

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« Reply #982 on: 14-04-2021, 23:36:25 »
Komora socijalnih radnika podigla kaznenu prijavu protiv Jelene Veljače i Nataše Janjić

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Odvjetnički ured iz Zagreba podnio je kaznenu prijavu državnom odvjetništvu protiv Jelene Veljače i Nataše Janjić Medančić u kojoj ih terete za kazneno djelo protiv javnog reda – javnim poticanjem na nasilje i mržnju, opisanu i kažnjivu po članku 325. stavku 1. Kaznenog zakona, priopćila je Hrvatska komora socijalnih radnika u utorak.

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« Reply #983 on: 17-04-2021, 20:55:53 »
ovo postaje sve bizarnije; kritika sorosevog imena i sekte pokusava se ugurati pod antisemitizam, sve od instaliranih sektasa koji razaraju europu, od vrha politike, merkelice, do raznih mulaca tipa dejana jovica. :cry:

Faktograf igra najprljavije: Kritika Soroševaca je po novom antisemitizam

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"Ljevičarski aktivizam opet je u diverzantskoj akciji na slobodu govora!

Preko Faktografa ( u vlasništvu GONGa) optužuju DP i Most za antisemitizam zbog dovođenja u vezu Tomaševiceve kampanje i Sorosa! Njima za info, Sorosevim udrugama je zabranjeno djelovanje u Izraelu, tako da je poistovjećivanje kritike Sorosa sa antisemitizmom izraz vrlo plitkoumne pseudoargumentacije. Tendencija je zabraniti čak i spominjati ime Soros u javnoj komunikaciji.

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sad samo jos da optuze izrael zbog antisemitizma.

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« Reply #984 on: 17-04-2021, 21:20:14 »
Dr. Franjo Tuđman o Georgeu Sorosu 1996.: ‘Soros i njegovi saveznici proširili su krakove kroz naše društvo’

sto se vrlo rado zaboravlja: tudjman je bio prvi europski drzavnik koji je okupaciji od strane soroseve sekte rekao ne. to je hrvatska platila "detudjmanizacijom", okupacijom politike, institucija, medija i kulturnog prostora kroz razne placenike na infuziji soroseve sekte od mesica do aktualnih. da je rekao da okupaciji sekte, danas bi se prikazivao kao najveci primjer demokraticnosti.

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Hrvatskoj javnosti je također malo poznato da je Hrvatska, za vrijeme prvog predsjednika dr. Franje Tuđmana bila prva država koja je podigla optužnice protiv članove lokalne podružnice Sorosevog Otvorenog društva, što se dogodilo 1997. godine, piše The New York Times.

U izdanju The New York Times datiranog 3. siječnja 1997. navodi se kako je “Hrvatska danas izjavila da sutrojica visokih dužnosnika iz lokalne podružnice međunarodne zaklade za potporu koju financira američki financijer George Soros optužena za utaju poreza.

Optužnice su uslijedile nekoliko tjedana nakon anti-Soros kampanje koju je započeo predsjednik Franjo Tuđman na godišnjem kongresu svoje stranke u studenom, gdje je gospodina Sorosa proglasio neprijateljem države.

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« Reply #985 on: 17-04-2021, 21:34:39 »
I Kosta Čavoški je 1996. Sorosu rekao ne.

1970. rekao je Da.
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« Reply #986 on: 18-04-2021, 13:56:38 »
antifašisti protiv soroša


That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

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« Reply #987 on: 18-04-2021, 14:03:52 »
Soros im je dao ime stranke. Taman da se pobune protiv njega kao i Tuđman pred kraj karijere.
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« Reply #988 on: 18-04-2021, 14:08:05 »
ma meni najbolje kad mi ljudi danas palamude o stvarima koje sam znala pre 25 godina. globalno i nevezano za soroša. a ta naknadna pamet je širok fenomen.
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

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« Reply #989 on: 18-04-2021, 20:18:02 »
bez zelje da narushim vase samozaljubljeno i vrlo sadrzajno caskanje... ako si prije 25 godina sve znala, pretpostavimo uopce i cula za seriozne izvore i razne ozbiljne velikane slobodne misli, objektivne, te ih citala, razvila jedno shiroko opce razumijevanje raznih procesa, sto se desilo da si 95% zaboravila i danas nasjedas na najplice kolumniste, jeftine placenike?

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« Reply #990 on: 18-04-2021, 20:59:41 »
Matriks izašao pre 22 godine, to je tu negde... meni dovoljno seriozan izvor, a i kul avatar... bila je nekad na pravom putu, popila crvenu pililulu, ali da li se u međuvremenu izgubila, skrenula ka gutačima plavih pilula... možda Matriks 4 rasvetli, u decembru 8-)
"Koga briga za to što govore, ako nemaju muda da ti kažu to u lice?" - Toni Soprano

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« Reply #991 on: 20-04-2021, 09:53:35 »
Evo kako bi naprimer danas izgledalo sveznanje iliti uviđaj (insight), sa pozivanjem na seriozne izvore i razne ozbiljne velikane slobodne misli:

https://www.facebook.com/jasonlsilva/videos/302608364598195
"Koga briga za to što govore, ako nemaju muda da ti kažu to u lice?" - Toni Soprano

"Ako bismo ljudima oduzeli njihove iluzije, koje bi im zadovoljstvo onda ostalo?" - Volter

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« Reply #992 on: 24-04-2021, 22:04:00 »
Le Monde: Tito je među 22 najveća diktatora

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Ako uvrštavanje Lenjina, Staljina, Hitlera, Mussolinija, Franca, Maoa i Castra ne iznenađuje, velika je stvar što su analizirani i Tito, Joseph-Désiré Mobutu, Hideki Tōjō i Pinochet, napisao je Le Monde o knjizi “Stoljeće diktatora” francuskog pisca Olivera Gueza koja je u prodaji i u talijanskim knjižarama.

Na 507 stranica Guez je skupio tekstove koje su za tu priliku napisali brojni autori, povjesničari, intelektualci. Analizirano je 26 diktatora, odnosno 22 diktature jer se, primjerice, u Sjevernoj Koreji obrađuje diktatura trojice Kimova ili u Siriji dvojice Assada.

O diktatoru Titu tekst je napisao francuski povjesničar, stručnjak za Balkan i pomoćnik direktora časopisa “Figaro Magazine” Jean- Christophe Buisson koji je autor i više povijesnih knjiga.

“Diktatura je prerogativ muškaraca. Nema informacija o diktatoricama. A ti muškarci na početku nisu bili nitko i ništa i uglavnom su svi niska rasta, voljeli su se šepiriti u uniformama s medaljama, a kao djeca imali su težak odnos s ocem. Bili su frustrirani”, kaže Guez koji se, kako opisuje, prvi put s diktaturom susreo kao desetogodišnjak kad je putovao u Zapadni Berlin vlakom preko DDR-a. U DDR-u su u vlak ušli agenti specijalne policije i tražili špijune, neprijatelje istočnonjemačke vlasti.

Josip Broz Tito (1892.-1980.)

“Budući da se herojski borio protiv nacizma, a zatim se 1948. suprotstavio Staljinu, Tito je tijekom cijelog života na Zapadu smatran šefom države kojega se može posjećivati. Naivnost? Neznanje? Namjerna sljepoća? Ipak, između mita i stvarnosti postojala je velika razlika”, započinje Buisson svoj tekst o Titu za knjigu “Stoljeće diktatora”.

“Tito se uglavnom obrazovao u Moskvi, bio je slovensko-hrvatski profesionalni revolucionar i nije se libio poslati u smrt svoje drugove iz Jugoslavenske komunističke partije samo da bi preuzeo kontrolu u stranci. Nakon rata nametnuo je Jugoslaviji režim terora kako bi učvrstio vlast koja je još bila krhka, što je dobro znao, u umjetno stvorenoj državi u kojoj su postojale društvene i nacionalne napetosti. Tito je bio paranoik, megaloman, diktator s načinom djelovanja nekog istočnog satrapa, ljubitelj luksuza, novca i lijepih žena, kojega su podržavale Sjedinjene Američke Države dok je financirao revolucionarne antiimperijalističke pokrete Trećeg svijeta čiji je bio glasnik i nositelj iluzije sve do svoje smrti da će ga Jugoslavija nadživjeti”, napisao je Buisson.

Samo jednom, 1939., govoreći, piše dalje Buisson, hrvatskoj komunistici Anki Butorac tijekom ručka u Zagrebu spomenuo je svoje sudjelovanje u španjolskom građanskom ratu kazavši kako je osobno u smrt u Španjolsku poslao njezina druga Blagoja Parovića koji je ubijen 6. lipnja 1937. u okolici Madrida. Kominterna je zadužila Tita da organizira prebacivanje 1650 jugoslavenskih dobrovoljaca u međunarodne snage u Španjolsku. No, Tito je, na osnovi Staljinove naredbe, više vremena potrošio u likvidiranju trockista nego u organiziranju borbe protiv frankista i falangista. Zato mu je potom Staljin povjerio zapovijedanje KPJ- om umjesto Milanu Gorkiću kojega je pozvao u Moskvu gdje je uhićen i strijeljan 1937. Zašto? Gorkića su optužili za špijuniranje u korist Engleza. Toj Staljinovoj optužbi pridružila se ona iz Jugoslavije, odnosno KPJ, da je Gorkić nepoznat masama jer više vremena provodi u Parizu i Beču nego što je s radničkom klasom, pa čak i da surađuje s antikomunističkom monarhijom u Beogradu. Sve te optužbe, stoji u knjizi, dolazile su iz istog izvora: od njegova suparnika u KPJ, Tita.

Josip Broz, navodi se dalje, rođen je 7. svibnja 1892. u Kumrovcu u Austro-Ugarskom Carstvu. Otac mu je bio Hrvat, inače notorni alkoholičar, a majka Slovenka koja je rodila 14-ero djece od kojih je osmero umrlo pri porodu ili neposredno poslije. Kako bi udovoljio majci, mali Josip odlazio je na katoličku misu i bio ministrant. No kada ga je župnik istukao jer je bio nemiran, Josip je počeo snažno mrziti Crkvu. Bio je živahno dijete, čak i uznemireno pa su mu nastavnici savjetovali da se ne upiše u školu za krojače jer je to zanat u kojem se cijeli dan provodi sjedeći. Zato je počeo učiti kovački zanat.

Između 16. i 19. godine, piše u “Stoljeću diktatora”, mnogo je putovao ne samo po Hrvatskoj i Sloveniji, već i po Češkoj, Bavarskoj…, a u Trstu je otkrio marksizam.

“Komunistički kriminalac”

Titov drugi život, onaj profesionalnog revolucionara, započinje 1920., spominje se u knjizi. Majka mu je umrla od španjolske gripe, a on se počeo angažirati u novonastalom KPJ, stvorenom nakon rascijepa Socijaldemokratske stranke. Postaje glavni tajnik hrvatskog metalurškog sindikata, odgovoran za KPJ u Zagrebu, i mrzio je kralja Aleksandra gotovo kao i socijaliste. Bio je najglasniji 1. svibnja 1928. u prosvjedima u Zagrebu protiv socijalista, kapitalističkih lakaja. U ljeto 1928., nakon što je policija pretresla njegov stan u kojem je pronašla letke s marksističkom propagandom, biva uhićen. Policija mu u njegovu opisu pod profesiju upisuje “komunistički kriminalac”.

U zatvoru upoznaje Mošu Pijadu, Andriju Hebranga, Aleksandra Rankovića, Milovana Đilasa, Edvarda Kardelja, koji su postali njegovi najvjerniji drugovi poslije Drugog svjetskog rata. Pelagija se vratila u Moskvu zajedno s njihovim sinom Žarkom, koji se vratio u Jugoslaviju nakon Drugog svjetskog rata i zbog alkoholizma i lagodnog života prouzrokovao nemalo briga ocu, stoji također u knjizi.

Tito je izišao iz zatvora 1934., a te je godine po zapovijedi ustaša u Marseilleu ubijen kralj Aleksandar. U knjizi se tvrdi da je Tito tijekom života imao više desetaka pseudonima. Otišao je ponovno u Moskvu gdje je obučen za špijunažu i gerilsko ratovanje. Hitler i Staljin su 1939. postigli sporazum o nenapadanju, pa je i Tito čekao upute iz Moskve prije nego što se odlučio pokrenuti borbu protiv okupatora i njihovih saveznika.

U novonastaloj NDH, Tito se osjetio ugroženim i 23. svibnja 1941. napustio je Zagreb u kojem je ostavio svoju drugu ženu, slovensku studenticu Hertu Hass i otišao u Beograd. Herta Hass bila je kći bogatog austrijskog odvjetnika i Titovi su je partijski drugovi smatrali buržujkom. Nijemci su je uhitili i zatim 1943. oslobodili pri zamjeni zatvorenika. Došla je k Titu koji je bio u šumi i otkrila da je imao praktički službenu ljubavnicu, spominje se u knjizi.

Nakon ubojstva kralja Aleksandra, Tito je pustio brkove i kosu obojio u crveno kako bi izbjegao nadzor kraljevske policije, a umjesto pseudonima Walter, po kojem je bio poznat unutar Kominterne, preuzeo je ime Tito koje mu je ostalo do kraja života. Bio je nekoliko puta u Moskvi i konačno je postavljen na čelo KPJ. Imao je dva uvjeta: upravljati čvrstom rukom i biti vjeran Staljinu. Jedan od zadataka koji je dobio bio je da izbaci sve trockiste iz KPJ koje mu je u ožujku 1939. naznačila Kominterna.

Izbacio je i neke svoje prijatelje. Slogan mu je bio da ako želiš doći do nečega, moraš spaliti i zdravo meso, piše Buisson. Tito u svojoj propagandi napada “kolonijalističke sile” i “kriminalnu politiku engleskih i francuskih agitatora” te hvali Crvenu armiju. Hitler je već napao Nizozemsku, Belgiju, Francusku, a Jugoslavija ostaje izvan sukoba do proljeća 1941. Hitler prisiljava jugoslavenske vlasti da u ožujku 1941. pristupe njegovu savezu, a dva dana kasnije u Beogradu su izbili veliki prosvjedi uz slogane “Bolje rat nego pakt, bolje grob nego rob”.

Njemačke, mađarske, bugarske i talijanske snage napale su Jugoslaviju, koja je kapitulirala 17. travnja 1941. Hrvatska je proglasila nezavisnost i osnovala NDH, a u Srbiji se pobunjenici okupljaju oko pukovnika Draže Mihailovića kojega Petar II. proglašava generalom. Četnici su, kako su nazvani, izveli nekoliko napada na okupatore. Tito je i dalje čekao zapovijedi iz Moskve. Želio je osnažiti partiju i počeo je proglasima napadati ne okupatore, već jugoslavensku vladu koja je izdala narod i “širenje šovinizma”. U Zagrebu mu je prijetila tzv. NDH kojom je upravljao Pavelić, pa se preselio u Beograd i stanovao u lijepoj zgradi pokraj one generala njemačke vojske Schrödera, piše Buisson.

Spavao je odjeven, a ispod jastuka držao je pištolj. Hitler je pokrenuo operaciju Barbarossa, napad na SSSR, a Tito je pozvao članove JKP da pokrenu otpor okupatoru. Ima pune vojne i političke ovlasti nad partijom. Utvrdio je kako će svakim oslobođenim teritorijem upravljati komitet za nacionalno oslobođenje te je kao simbol preuzeo crvenu zvijezdu. Pozdrav je bio podignuta šaka koju su europski komunisti koristili još od 20-ih godina kao odgovor na fašistički pozdrav ispruženim dlanom. Vodi dvostruki rat: protiv okupatora, te protiv Mihailovića i Pavelića.

Od 1943. Tito je dobio logističku, medijsku i političku potporu Saveznika. Njegove snage ojačane su poslije primirja koje su Talijani potpisali sa Saveznicima 1943. te su ga u lipnju 1944. na Visu susreli engleski izaslanici. Tito je svojima kazao da tijekom toga susreta ne smiju govoriti o njegovu revolucionarnom političkom programu te da ne ističu crvenu zvijezdu. Poslije nekoliko tjedana, susreo se u Napulju s Churchillom koji mu je potvrdio potporu i najavio raskid s kraljem Petrom II. Otišao je u Moskvu i sa Staljinom utvrdio ulazak Crvene armije u Jugoslaviju kako bi pomogla u oslobađanju Beograda. Dok su Amerikanci i Rusi zauzeti ratnim operacijama u Europi i Aziji, Tito iskorištava priliku da učvrsti svoju vlast u Jugoslaviji, a to mu omogućava i kaos kolaboracionističkih režima u Hrvatskoj, Srbiji…

Početak diktature u drugoj Jugoslaviji

Zna da se mora nametnuti i širenjem straha pa ljudima iz OZNE naređuje da “očiste” tzv. sumnjive zone. Na sjeveru zemlje, u Vojvodini i Banatu, proganjani su pripadnici njemačke i mađarske manjine, a tisuće i tisuće njih bivaju deportirane u Rusiju. Otvoren je pravi lov na stvarne neprijatelje, ali i one koji to nisu bili. Počela je prava diktatura u drugoj Jugoslaviji. Kaznio je i Srbe jer su u većini bili uz kralja i Mihailovića, stoji u knjizi. Poslao je stotinu tisuća mladih Srba nedovoljno pripremljenih na frontu u Srijem da se bore protiv njemačkih snaga. Poginulo je oko 37.000 Srba. Htio je dati do znanja i da je buržujska Jugoslavija mrtva i pokopana, a buduća će biti socijalistička i federativna, ali ne i demokratska. To se vidjelo i na izborima 11. studenoga 1945. U svim okruzima bila je samo jedna stranka – Narodna fronta, iza koje se krila KPJ, i sa samo jednim kandidatom. Oporbenjaci su bili uhićeni kako na biračkim mjestima ne bi u kutije ubacivali neispunjene listiće. Na izborima je Narodna fronta dobila 99,57 posto glasova pa su izabrani odmah ukinuli kraljevinu i proglasili Federativnu Narodnu Republiku Jugoslaviju, ističe se u knjizi.

Titov stil života nalikovao onome Hitlerova miljenika Göringa

Režim je počeo napadati Crkvu kojoj se agrarnom reformom uzelo njezino bogatstvo. Usvojen je petogodišnji plan industrijalizacije, po uzoru na sovjetske, ali je bio previše ambiciozan, neostvariv, i 1947. narod je počeo gladovati. Tito promatra situaciju iz palače na Dedinju i širi svoje rezidencije. Na Brijunima prima ličnosti iz svjetskog džet-seta. Ljubitelj je luksuza, ali ga ne dopušta građanima Jugoslavije. Vozi se u Rolls-Royceu koji mu je poklonila kraljica Elizabeta, ali i u Pavelićevu Mercedesu. Prisvaja i brod “Galeb”. Zapravo živi u luksuzu, stilom kakav ne priliči boljševiku. Buisson piše da je Titov stil života nalikovao onome Hitlerova miljenika Göringa kojem je, kaže francuski autor, i fizički sličio. Dvor koji je kreirao oko sebe nalikuje dvoru perzijskog šaha.

Kult ličnosti dostojan Sjeverne Koreje

Što je bila Titova Jugoslavija, pita se na kraju Buisson. I odgovara: to je bila zemlja s punim zatvorima oporbenjaka i dužnosnika koje se smatralo neprikladnima. Neki su bili i ubijeni. Zemlja u kojoj se oko Tita njegovao kult ličnosti dostojan Sjeverne Koreje. Zemlja u kojoj je gušena svaka disonantna riječ, kao što se to dogodilo studenskom pokretu 1968. Ranković je govorio da Tito nikomu nije vjerovao jer mu je to bilo urođeno. Bio je slijep prema jačanju nacionalnih napetosti, a nakon njegove smrti 1980. te napetosti dovele su do raspada Jugoslavije koju je 35 godina držao ujedinjenu diktaturom i terorom.

Buisson citira i književnika Miroslava Krležu koji je za Tita kazao da “si je dao sašiti odijelo po mjeri (Jugoslaviju), a nije uvidio da ono puca po šavovima”.

džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #993 on: 09-05-2021, 21:50:30 »

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #994 on: 09-05-2021, 23:01:43 »
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #995 on: 09-05-2021, 23:39:08 »
Razumem slobodne planinčine, ali kako slobodan Bjelovar?

džin tonik

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #996 on: 09-05-2021, 23:49:54 »
ja razumijem "oslobodjenu" hrvatsku, svaka balvan-revolucija krece kao reakcija na rusenje velike srbije jugoslavije, a sta je sa srbijom? nije bilo nacista i domacih kvislinga, nedica, ljotica, spc, kulturbunda, logora, itd. za ustanak u srbiji? balvan-revolucija samo u hr cim se izmakla srpskoj okupaciji ili sta je taj antifasizam? kako maltene "oslobodjena" hr, a okupirana srbija 1943., ratni narode?

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« Reply #997 on: 10-05-2021, 00:04:51 »
kolko kontam, tamo gdje su Njemci okupirali moglo se još i preživjeti, a tamo gdje su ustaše okupirale morali se i Hrvati braniti od ustaša
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #998 on: 10-05-2021, 00:23:00 »
srpski antifasizam:



dok je beograd tako tretirao svog najveceg izdavaca koji godinama izlazio u susret doslovno svakom skrabalu, u tolikoj mjeri da su hrvatski klerikalci odgovarali od konovih izdanja zbog velikosrpske propagande, tako je u srba nagradjen. sve uz izlozbu, slavlja i pohvale za prvi "judenfraj" grad u europi. dok 1943. himmler osobno morao doci u ndh "rijesiti zzidovsko pitanje" zbog opstrukcija raznih.

uglavnom, da ne duljim, bato, odlican prikaz ustanka protiv diktature, bravo.

Labudan

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Re: Antifašizam
« Reply #999 on: 10-05-2021, 00:27:06 »
sem što jelte od potomaka Kona jedan vodi glavni korona štab, drugi producira muziku i pjevo je na Evroviziji

šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala