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Antifašizam
Meho Krljic:
Možda nije loše da imamo poseban topik za ovo jer se poslednjih dana zakuvalo a čini se da će nastaviti da se kuva još koju godinu najmanje...
Naravno, termin "fašizam" je toliko preterano korišćen da danas ne znači skoro pa ništa više od "nešto što se meni ne sviđa". Tradicionalno, povezali bismo ga sa autoritarnim sistemom, društvom ujedinjenim na radikalizovanim nacionalističkim idejama, korporativnom državom itd. ali onda se tu pojavljuje nacionalsocijalizam koji je u formulu dodao antisemitizam, rasni suprematizam itd. i svašta dalje.
Elem, danas imamo velike pokrete i partije u Evropi koje baštine ideje "tradicionalnih" evropskih vrednosti i suprotstavljanje imigraciji, liberalizmu (ekonomskom i inom), uz prstohvat ksenofobije i rasizma, a slični sentimenti su u Americi doneli na vlast aktuelnu administraciju, u kojoj jedan Stiv Benon zauzima prominentnu poziciju. Benon je jedan od perjanica alt right pokreta a koji bismo mogli nazvati ribrendiranim neonacističkim pokretom unutar kog se, čini se, temeljito primenjuje postmodernistički pristup bekstva od utemeljenja u velikim (ideološkim) narativima i oslanjanje na komunikaciju memima... Alt right se razlikuje od "klasičnog" neonacizma utoliko što njegovi proponenti većinskije pripadaju srednjoj (radije nego radničkoj) klasi, i što je njihovo dnevno političko delovanje u većoj meri zasnovano na ismevanju i ponižavanju (uz obilato korišćenje "postistinitih""alternativnih činjenica") radije nego na otvorenom konfrontiranju i pozivanju na genocid. Sad ja ovo ekstremno generalizujem ali pokušavam da u tri poteza ocrtam politički trenutak u kome je pre nekoliko dana Ričard Spencer nasred ulice popio lakat u glavu dok je davao intervju televiziji.
Ogroman deo liberalne javnosti (aka Twittera) je ovo pozdravio ukazujući da "nacistima" (Spencer je visoko obrazovan, think-tank aktivista radije nego neko ko će juriti ljude po ulici sa bejzbolkom, sebe naziva identitetarijancem, ne nacistom, zalaže se za "mirno" vraćanje SAD belcima i vele da je možda baš on izmislio termin Alt Right) ne treba davati priliku da upražnjavaju slobodu govora jer njome pozivaju na nasilje pa je nasilje protiv nacista u ovim preventivnim formama zapravo samoodbrana, imunoreakcija društva koje je uostalom izgradilo ogroman deo svog identiteta na mitu Drugog svetskog rata i ajresivnoj borbi protiv nacista.
Problem sa napadanjem nacista (pogotovo onih koji su, kao što perjanice Alt Right scene jesu, dobro etablirani i sa određenom moći koju kontrolišu) je u tome što kada jednom sami napustite ideju da je sloboda govora nešto što čini društvo bezbednim ZA SVE i kada pređete u fizičke oblike konfrontacije, ne samo da od njih činite žrtve u očima manje radikalnih gledalaca već i pokušavate da ih pobedite na polju gde oni tradicionalno imaju prednost. Naravno, zadojeni smo pop kulturom koja nam govori da je napad na zlo tamo gde ga vidimo najbolji put do pobede dobra, ali to previđa da se u borbi protiv radikalnih, agresivnih tendencija u društvu, istorijski, pobeđuje ne angažovanjem jednako radikalnih, agresivnih taktika već upravo suprotno, obezbeđivanjem da društvo većinski štiti svoje pripadnike od agresije sa koje god strane da dolazi kroz institucije ali i kroz puku individualnu savest i grupnu solidarnost koje će na kraju dana i destruktivnim elementima obezbediti zaštitu ali ne i slediti njihove pozive.
Komplikovano.
Elem, ovo sve pišem jer je Milo Yiannopoulos (britanska alt rajt ikona, inače otvoreno, flambojantno gej muškarac, čisto da bude jasno da alt rajt i pored otvorene mizoginije nije "klasičan" maskulinistički pokret) trebalo da priča na Berkliju ali je predavanje otkazano zbog masovnog protesta studenata u kome su na kraju maskirani antifašisti gađali salu vatrometom pa je iz bezbednosnih razloga sve prekinuto. Neki od protestujućih se vrlo otvoreno zalažu za nasilan odgovor na primer Lana Wachowski koja kaže da ke apsolutno opravdano da se u ovakvim situacijama koristi nasilje jer će ga "oni 100% upotrebiti protiv nas".
UC Berkeley cancels 'alt-right' speaker Milo Yiannopoulos as thousands protest
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The University of California Berkeley cancelled a speech by right-wing internet troll Milo Yiannopoulos after thousands of students gathered in protest and a group of black-clad anti-fascist activists shot fireworks at the speech venue.
The Martin Luther King Jr student union was heavily fortified behind several layers of police barricades when protesters began gathering outside at 5pm, three hours before the event was scheduled to start.
The gathering was boisterous but peaceful until about 6pm, when several dozen protesters wearing black face masks and carrying glittering flags arrived. The group quickly attacked the police barricades, then began shooting firecrackers at the building. Some used barricades to smash windows.
After about 15 minutes, a police officer announced that the event was cancelled.
Some cheered when the police announced the cancellation, but others continued to jeer and call for the police to send Milo out to face the crowd.
“Milo isn’t here,” one police officer shouted amid the din. “Milo isn’t here.”
Around 6pm local time, Yiannopoulos posted a statement on Facebook claiming that “the Left is absolutely terrified of free speech and will do literally anything to shut it down”. After the event was cancelled, and after the crowd watched a light pole that had been set aflame burn itself out, the atmosphere in the crowd quickly turned festive.
A large sound system was turned on, blasting music. The first song?
YG’s “Fuck Donald Trump”.
At one point riot police that were on the student union’s second floor appeared to fire less-lethal weapons at the crowd, but it was unclear what kind.
“We won’t put up with the violent rhetoric of Milo, Trump or the fascistic alt-right,” said a Berkeley history student who declined to give his name. Wearing all black and a face mask, and carrying a banner that read “Queers bash back”, the student said he identified with the “antifa” (anti-fascist) movement.
“We are willing to resist by any means necessary,” he added.
Lana Wachowski was another protester who defended using extreme tactics to deny Yiannopolous a platform.
“The moral imperative is to win,” she said. “There’s something to be said for fighting according to a code, but if you lose, people are going to die. People are going to get deported.”
“It’s absolutely acceptable to use violence. They are 100% certain to use it against us.”
The erstwhile home of the free speech movement has been divided in recent weeks by the Berkeley College Republican-sponsored event, with many students, alumni, and community members demanding that Yiannopoulos be stopped from spreading his racist and transphobic views on campus.
Last week, University chancellor Nicholas Dirks defended Yiannopoulos’ right to speak on campus, though he described the Breitbart editor as “a troll and provocateur who uses odious behavior in parts to ‘entertain’, but also to deflect any serious engagement with ideas” whose “act [is] at odds with the values of this campus”.
Dirks also addressed Yiannopoulos’ tendency to single out individual students on stage – such as a transgender student at the University of Wisconsin Madison – for mockery and abuse, which the chancellor said does “not justify prior restraint on his freedom of expression”.
The Berkeley College Republicans said in a statement that the opportunity to invite Yiannopoulos was “too good to pass up”, though it disclaimed that the group “does not agree with everything Milo has said or done, and totally disavow [sic] any violence or hurt that could result from this event”.
Just hours before the protests, Reddit banned an “alt-right” subreddit page, r/altright, that had become a community for white nationalists. The page now reads: “This subreddit was banned due to a violation of our content policy, specifically, the proliferation of personal and confidential information.”
Yiannopoulos is a well-known figure in the right-wing internet, though he was permanently banned from Twitter in July 2016 for instigating racist and sexist abuse of Ghostbusters actor Leslie Jones. Since 2015, Yiannopoulos has traveled to university campuses as part of his “Dangerous Faggot” tour, frequently provoking student protests.
A protester was shot and seriously injured outside a Yiannopoulos speech at the University of Washington on 20 January, reportedly by a Trump supporter who was seeking Yiannopoulos’ autograph.
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O istom trošku, reddit je posle mnogo godina premišljanja povukao potez kojem su se mnogi nadali:
Goodnight, alt-right: Reddit bans white nationalist forum
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Reddit has officially taken a stance in regards to its problem of being an internet hub for white nationalism. On Wednesday night, the open-forum discussion website announced it would firmly crackdown on a subreddit for the “alt-right,” a fringe right-wing movement that embraces authoritarianism, white nationalism and anti-feminism.
In a statement to the Daily Beast, Reddit noted that the r/altright subreddit forum would be banned due to members posting the personal information of others with the intent of causing them harm. The practice is also referred to as doxxing.
“Reddit is the proud home to some of the most authentic conversations online. We strive to be a welcoming, open platform for all by trusting our users to maintain an environment that cultivates genuine conversation and adheres to our content policy,” the statement read.
According to the Daily Beast, the altright subreddit allegedly had over 16,000 subscribers after President Donald Trump was sworn in.
In its statement, the company noted, “We are very clear in our site terms of service that posting of personal information can get users banned from Reddit and we ask our communities not to post content that harasses or invites harassment.”
It adds, “We have banned r/altright due to repeated violations of the terms of our content policy. There is no single solution to these issues and we are actively engaging with the Reddit community to improve everyone’s experience.”
The Daily Beast spoke with a moderator for the altright subreddit just days before it was banned. The outlet asked whether the moderators thought Reddit’s “politics would affect their space on the website.”
Disbelieving that they could ever be banned, the moderator replied, “As a privately owned company, Reddit is free to operate as it pleases, and this is merely a continuation of what it’s already been doing. Their policy hasn’t changed. As such, we will continue to abide by it to the best of our abilities.”
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Meho Krljic:
Cracked ima solidno razuman tekst o slučaju Richarda Spencera.
A Aleksis Kenedi uobičajeno razborito zbori o istoj temi: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-28-punching-nazis
Meho Krljic:
Tramp, u formi pitanja, kao da priča sam sa sobom, veli da ako univerzitet ne da ljudima slobodu govora i nasilno napada nedužne, onda... možda ne treba da dobija federalne pare.
Razume se, ovo je sve konzistentno: politika se vodi preko tvitera a napad na nedužne se rešava skidanjem sa sise a ne uključivanjem policije i pravosuđa.
S.U.B.A.:
Odlična tema. Ali zašto to ne preneti malo 'vamo. Šta se dešava kod nas? Kako se kod nas rabe pojmovi fašizam/antifašizam? U svakom slučaju i jedno i drugo su uvozni prozvodi u Srba, prilično nekritički usvojeni i još jadnije primenjeni pa mislim da je to važnije i užarenije od Spencera itd.
Meho Krljic:
Pa, svakako. Ovaj topik treba da se bavi i time, ko god misli da ima šta na tu temu da kaže nek navali.
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