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дејан

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добих јутрос мејл са малим, интересантним чланком са википедије о Тhe Remote Monitoring and Deployment Solutions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher

даљим читањем сазнајемо да је цена софтвера негде око 300к евра, и да је наша мала, поносна и на европском путу непоколебљива заједница купила ФинСпај (па ако неко може да схвати шта ће србији овакав 'алат' нек ми отвори очи...тајна преписка мрке и бекуте? ивичине сексуалне авантуре (онли 18+)? вучићеви планови за економски опоравак србије кроз призму ослобађања косовског баласта?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher#Gamma_International:_Corporate_Enemy_of_the_Internet

а оно што смо одувек знали гардијан и вашингтон пост од јуче тврде: прате фејс, епл, гугл
...barcode never lies
FLA

zakk

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Čita i Gugl sve što pišem preko njega, kao i FB, pa pokušavaju da mi prodaju koješta. Slično verovatno i vlast™, reaguje na ključne reči...


Za naše pojma nemam, Džon je DB, on će ti kaže  :!:
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

ALEKSIJE D.

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Naši prate jedni druge ko sa kim razmenjuje mejlove i ko prati kakve akcije na berzi, stanje neke banke na dalekim sunčanim ostrvima gde se gnezde kanarinci ... Nije tu zanimljiva sitna boranija što naručuje kineske džidža bidže preko neta.

Джон Рейнольдс

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Све се прати и бележи, а сад ће моћи да се класификује и у фолдере ставља. Злу не требало. Згрешиш нешто, а пандури би да притом још и неког друкнеш, кликну на фолдер - охохо! Шта то имамо овде? Тад и тад си подржавао Црвене Кмере, тад и тад си тражио плаћеног убицу за Ђулета Ван Гога, тад и тад си кудио власт и хулио на цркву... Е сад можемо да се договоримо, а можеш и да мало береш кукуруз, лежиш у прдекани или волонтираш у каквом црквеном хору. Па бирај, другар!

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Ghoul

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možete slobodno da nastavite da guglate fraze tipa 'pas jebe ženu' jer izgleda da veliki brat (za sada) još uvek ne prati tu vrstu (potencijalnih) prestupnika.

s druge strane, ako ste guglali svinjetinu (pa čak i "man fucks pork/swine"), možda već imate fajl kod vb-a!

evo liste fraza čiju pretragu i uopšte upotrebu na netu prate:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/reuvencohen/2012/05/26/department-of-homeland-security-forced-to-release-list-of-keywords-used-to-monitor-social-networking-sites/2/




Джон Рейнольдс

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Наравно да имам фајл, па ово су најзанимљивије ствари за гуглање!  :lol:
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mac

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Ovaj Edward Snowden, što je razotkrio PRIZMU, mnogo liči na mene. Jel' da?

http://youtu.be/5yB3n9fu-rM

ALEKSIJE D.

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Oću da volontiram u crkvenom horu, Nemam sluha ali imam dobru volju. Volim Obamu, Ameriku i smataram kako imamo najbolju vlast na svetu koja se brine o dobrobiti gradjana.
Nešto nemam snage da laže... Ovaj, da budem iskren u potpunosti i moram trknuti na neki sajt NVO, koliko da vidim šta je potrebno napisati radi političke korektnosti.
PS Poštovani Nadziraču, ovo su moja iskrena uverenja i nemaju veze sa tim što neko laže kako ti gledaš šta ja pišem i što potajno posmatram sajt sa najnovijim vestima Vlade Republike Srbije.
Vaš Ja

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Halo! Laže vas Aleksije. Hoće samo da se infiltrira i da vas raskrinka. Pa, posle da traži azil na Islandu ili na Jamajci.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

ALEKSIJE D.

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Molio bih da se ne obazirete na pripadnike (navodno penzionisane) određenih službi koji se pravdaju da sve što bi rekli ne mogu reći jer su pod zakletvom. Time se sami deklarišu kao vredne i odane pčele radilice od vremena onih (zna se na koja se ONA vremena misli), preko vremena skorijih do ovih. Njihov cilj je da nas poštene demokrate, ljude vizionare, širokih shvatanja i uskih pogleda, koji mislimo samo i isključivo na dobro i za dobro ovog naroda (koji ne ume da misli jer je nedfinisana masa) dakle, nas, buduću i sadašnju intelektualnu elitu koja svim snagama uvodi vrednosti Zapada, slobodnog tržišta, demokratije, sve to, navodno penzionisani pripadnici pojedinih službi, žele omalovažiti i vratiti one reakcionarne snage koje se lažno nekad izdavahu za revolucionarne.
PS Poštovani Nadziraču, ja za razliku od drugih, ne mislim kako je ovaj forum samo mamac za navodne lajavce i sumnjive tipove, koje treba svabiti na jedno mesto, kao što su nekad neki radili sa nekim... Nije važno, Ti znaš. Zato, izražavam svoju lojalnost višim vrednostima. Potrudio sam da iskažem svu svoju elokveniciju, pravilan i lagan tok misli u gornjem tekstu, raskrinkavajući znate Vi koga. To, nadam se, ima svoju vrednost i moja ocena će sigurno biti pozitivna.
Vaš Odani JA



Meho Krljic

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Inside PRISM: Why the Government Hates Encryption

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Addendum (1:12 PM): Google's Larry Page and David Drummond are categorically denying that Google gives the government open-ended, back-door access to user data.  This appears to confirm my speculation (for Google at least) that these firms are still tightly controlling data access by reviewing and addressing each data demand on an individual and responsible basis.  And keep something in mind -- the government can use legal means to try force you to be silent about a matter, but they can't force you to lie, unless they're resorting to waterboarding and shock collars for Internet executives.

Addendum (10:05 PM): Hangout On Air video discussion of this and related topics recorded this evening (55 minutes) is now available for viewing at this link and via the embed below.

Yesterday in The Soviet Surveillance States of America we began connecting some of the dots associated with the new disclosures of the U.S. federal government's collection of telephone and Internet data. 
Since the initial reports, we've now been informed by officials that they only actually look at the telephone connection "metadata" in the course of specific, targeted investigations, and that the Internet data slurping associated with PRISM is directed at foreign nationals in foreign countries (though Americans can be accidentally sucked into the system as well).
We're told by administration spokesmen and top members in Congress that this is all for our own good, presumably as are ubiquitous CCTV cameras, license plate readers, DNA swabbing of innocent persons, and all the other varied inputs (some of which we possibly don't know about) feeding to our law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
Our fearless leaders seem startled that there's such a negative reaction to these new revelations.  "Calm down children, we know what's best for you!" appears to be the common refrain.
What they forget -- or more likely are conveniently ignoring -- is that we Americans are a historically rather strange breed when it comes to an innate distrust of government.  Frequently these concerns go completely overboard, but when government actually does play into the hands of the conspiracy theorists it does nobody any good at all.  (On the other hand, we continue to have evidence that our government is so leaky that keeping a really big secret for long is an intense challenge.)
If you really want to incur the ire of most honest Americans, treat them all like they're criminal or terrorist suspects.
Now, what's really going on with PRISM?  The government admits that the program exists, but says it is being "mischaracterized" in significant ways (always a risk with secret projects sucking up information about your citizens' personal lives).  The Internet firms named in the leaked documents are denying that they have provided "back doors" to the government for data access.
Who is telling the truth?
Likely both.  Based on previous information and the new leaks, we can make some pretty logical guesses about the actual shape of all this.
Here's my take. 
First, I believe it's reasonable to assume that significant targeted use of DPI -- Deep Packet Inspection -- is in place, most or all of it outside the control (or even perhaps knowledge) of major Internet sites (but quite possibly associated specifically with major ISPs and backbone providers). 
Just as I doubt that "all phone calls are being recorded," I doubt that a mass collection of non-targeted Internet data is going on.  Not only would this be technically enormously difficult when you consider traffic patterns and volumes, but would not likely be useful from an analysis standpoint compared with more careful targeting of specific communications, even with the improvements in analysis tools we are aware of (and/or can speculate exist in the shadows).
We do know for certain that the government has become very insistent on two fronts -- wanting virtually instantaneous access to specific stored and real-time user data on demand, and getting it in the clear (that is, unencrypted).
So long as most people don't bother to encrypt their email and other data the latter point is largely moot.  The government is mostly concerned that someday down the line ubiquitous encryption will take hold -- that is, strong encryption by default -- that would be time consuming for the spooks to crack on an independent basis.
An intriguing outline becomes clear.  The government likely doesn't have "back doors" into major Internet sites that would allow government access to those sites' user data on a "willy-nilly" basis.  But it does seem reasonable to assume (especially based on the historical record associated with telephony, e.g. CALEA) that the government has pressured major Internet sites to deploy the means for rapid access to specific data requests that would be mediated by gatekeepers at those firms.
That is, NSA (or whomever) would have an expedited means to present a firm with (for example) a court order or National Security Letter.  If legal counsel at the firm determines that this is a valid and sufficiently narrow demand, the mechanism would be in place to immediately provide access (perhaps one-shot, perhaps ongoing for some period) to that specific data (likely related to specific user accounts). 
In other words, what we're likely talking about with PRISM isn't a "back door" for rummaging around through data in an uncontrolled manner, but rather a technical and legal protocol for the government to quickly gain access to specific data under order when the firm involved agrees that the order is valid and chooses not to challenge it.
Overall, this regime would replace much slower, largely ad hoc systems for responding to data demands, with a pipeline that can provide that data to government directly -- but the firms still control the valve on that pipe and which data is permitted to flow into it, allowing the firms to fight orders that they do not consider reasonable, focused, or otherwise valid.
This kind of scenario may help to explain the seeming contradictions of what we're now hearing about PRISM, and seems to sync well with the battles over government access to user data that we already know about, and with government demands that when they do get such access, they have some way to get the data in unencrypted form. 
But even if my speculation about the relatively constrained nature of PRISM is correct, the potential for government abuse of such deployed systems is still enormous.
Such surveillance environments drastically undermine our own ability to criticize similar and worse abuses by other countries.  And here at home, the "you have nothing to fear from surveillance if you have nothing to hide" argument does not play well with most honest Americans. Faith in cloud computing and storage models -- which I feel are enormously important to us all in so many ways and bring with them vast benefits to consumers -- are predicated on users trusting that their cloud data will be at least as safe from government abuses as their data would be on their own local hard drives.
The rise of ubiquitous encryption will over time likely be unstoppable, and will change the face of these issues in major ways that we cannot predict with confidence.
We can, however, predict with considerable assurance that any government and any officials -- regardless of political parties -- who insist on treating the American people as suspects, as ignorant children whose personal data should be available to government prying merely at its beck and call, are ultimately helping to destroy critical underpinnings of what has made this country great.
If we continue to permit this, the ultimate fault and blame will not be with our government or our leaders, but rather with ourselves.
--Lauren--


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqEZ_bAejPs&feature=player_embedded

ALEKSIJE D.

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Koliko da javnem, sad sam na CNN-u gledao u paralamentu Britanije obrazlaganje zakona kojim se uvodi nadzor nad e poštom, datotekama, fotografijama itd. pri čemu će to služiti u razne svrhe i u saradnji sa amerima pomoći između ostalog i zaštiti intelektualne svojine.Što ste piraterisali piraterisali ste.

Ghoul

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Što ste piraterisali piraterisali ste.

ma ionako se više ne prave filmovi niti muzika ko u moje vreme - ovo danas sve sranje! što je valjalo, skino sam, a ovo novo govno i ne moram baš, bolje je bez njega za živce, zdravlje i uopšte za dragoceno vreme.

nek zavrću slavine, majke im ga, pocrcali dabogda!


lilit

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Po kom zakonu :lol: se ovo radi? Mislim, sad imas pasos pa ti ga "ukinu"?

"Snowden's U.S. passport revoked yesterday & Hong Kong authorities notified -- but may have come too late to stop Snowden leaving HK"
http://m.guardian.co.uk/global/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-leaves-hong-kong-moscow-live

Inace, HK pismo Americi me razgalilo jutros, moram da priznam. Posebno od 'btw' dela. :lol:
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Usul

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Po kom zakonu :lol: se ovo radi? Mislim, sad imas pasos pa ti ga "ukinu"?


Eh, sad se pravimo naivni. Svaka drzava ima diskreciono pravo da radi ovakve stvari, posebno ako se radi o bezbednosnim pitanjima. Mislim da sa patriotskim aktom ako nakaleme spijunazu mogu i da ga oderu ako hoce.
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

lilit

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I njega i mene, da. Al zar su se Adams & Linkoln borili za ovakav jad? :lol:
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Джон Рейнольдс

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Урнебес, мислио сам да извучем неки цитат, али нисам знао који:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-us-politicians-react

 xrofl xrofl
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lilit

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Hm, ako Edvard bude trazio azil od Ekvadora, ovo je sve USA gejm da se rese Asanza. Mel Gipson progovara iz mene!!!
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Usul

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I njega i mene, da. Al zar su se Adams & Linkoln borili za ovakav jad? :lol:


Cini mi se da takvo pitanje nema previse smisla jer trenutne politicke strukture bas briga za sta su se borili prethodnici. Oni se bore za sebe i svoje gazde, do smrti ako treba :)
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

džin tonik

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sad tu dizu neku paniku, a za primjerice echelon zna se vec vise od deset godina. ah.
samo neka se rusi vrate u sredozemno more. zarad malo ravnoteze.

Джон Рейнольдс

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Сноуден је већ тражио азил од Еквадора, али је и познато да се пре тога обратио Асанжовом правном тиму за помоћ. Можда они имају неке везе с Еквадором, уверавања или шта већ. Мени није чудно да исти тим сличне људе упути на исту адресу, иако бих (уколико све ово није нека зајебанција) да сам на Сноуденовом месту, пре остао у Азији (источна Русија и Кина), с увек важећом картом за Северну Кореју, него ишао у било коју државу Централне или Јужне Америке. Тај део света је увек био трусан и Империја Зла је тамо вршљала с променљивим успехом; за разлику од тога, у највећем делу Азије (изузев више арапских земаља) или постоје као окупатори (ерго, омражени су) или су попили преко пичке. Све у свему, до пада Запада, Азија је сигурније прибежиште.

А што се "Ешалона" тиче, па он је увек био у сивој зони онога што слуге Новог фашистичког поретка догматски називају "теоријом завере". Знате већ, неки од "угледних" медија нешто назове магичним речима "теорија завере" и онда "информисана интелигенција" широм света презриво одмахује рукама. Сноуден је понудио нешто конкретније од тога, али потребно је ипак знати и један детаљ како НФП заиста функционише - праве лажи су у орвеловском маниру "сакривене" наочиглед свих. То је прилично успешно одрађено у најважнијем догађају 21. века, најн-илевену, па на сличан начин функционише и ова "афера" прислушкивања целог света; то је нешто што сви знају, али се притом и ишчуђавају кад се објави. То јест, није фрка. Као бомбардовање РТС-а током агресије НАТО, најкривљи је Милановић. Јелте.
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Father Jape

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Neko reče na Tviteru:

Russia: We kill our whistleblowers to make room for yours.

 xrofl
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

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Ghoul

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kakvi carevi ovi ekvadorci!!!   xcheers

viđeni su za bombardovanje! :P

Ecuador Cancels US Trade Pact Over Repeated Threats
Offers 'Aid' to US to Train Them Not to Attack Peoples' Privacy


Faced with several days of overt threats from the Obama Administration and top senators threatening to revoke a key US-Ecuador trade pact if they dare to grant asylum to Edward Snowden, the Ecuadoran government has told the US what they can do with their frozen broccoli and fresh cut flowers, and has cancelled the pact themselves.

President Rafael Correa said that his nation would not tolerate US blackmail and that the trade pact wasn’t worth the harm it would do to Ecuadoran sovereignty. With most of its neighbors getting free trade with the US, the loss of the pact may put Ecuador at an economic disadvantage.

But only really on the broccoli and the flowers. Though those are big exports to the US, they are dwarfed by Ecuador’s largest export, oil. And if Ecuador’s oil is no longer welcome in the US, that’s one commodity they can easily sell elsewhere.

And just in case there were any doubts of what Ecuador was telling the Obama Administration, the nation’s Communications Secretary, Fernando Alvarado, announced $23 million in Ecuadoran aid to the United States to provide “human rights training” to combat torture, illegal executions and “attacks on peoples’ privacy.”


http://news.antiwar.com/2013/06/27/ecuador-cancels-us-trade-pact-over-repeated-threats/

lilit

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Stara vest. Danas pricali s Bajdenom. Nista ne pratis.
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Ghoul

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Stara vest. Danas pricali s Bajdenom. Nista ne pratis.

zaostao sam otkako te nema na sagiti: nikako da čujem WHAT'S HOT, WHAT'S IN, WHERE IT'S AT:cry:

prosvetli me!!! pliiiiz!!!!


lilit

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Stara vest. Danas pricali s Bajdenom. Nista ne pratis.

zaostao sam otkako te nema na sagiti: nikako da čujem WHAT'S HOT, WHAT'S IN, WHERE IT'S AT:cry:

prosvetli me!!! pliiiiz!!!!

ma nista specijalno guli, ovo sa ekvadorom je klasična sagitaška priča: kurčenje bez pokrića.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/02/ecuador-rafael-correa-snowden-mistake
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

džin tonik

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... klasična sagitaška priča: kurčenje bez pokrića.

hm.

Джон Рейнольдс

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Корисни идиот NSA или које већ агенције, прочитао шта сам му написао на Сагити и тражи азил у Русији. Каже, завршио је посао и неће више да "шкоди" Империји Зла.

Snowden wants asylum in Russia, ready to meet condition not to damage US

Пиштање америчких званичика увек је забавно читати, али реално гледано све што има везе са "Викиликсом" више је Вики (Миљковић) него (озбиљан) leak. Мислим да су, (можда) за разлику од јужноамеричких држава које воле да шљашти и пршти на све стране, Рује ову ујдурму испратиле са здравим "боле нас кита" ставом. Лично имам утисак да су Сноуденови мотиви искрени и не бих волео да најебе код зликоваца, али реално његова "откривања"... Прислушкујемо цео свет? Nigga (да, ти, Обмано) please. Дајте бре ликери озбиљне ствари, најн-илевн, златне резерве и Форт Нокс, такве ствари, не ово што знају и врапци на грани.
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Tex Murphy

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“No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US... I want the US to succeed,”

Дај бре, каква је ово изјава за азил у РУСИЈИ????  :x :x :x
Много више ми се свиђао онај прошли хладни рат, сад се сви нешто праве фини. Прц.

Джон Рейнольдс

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Па није да је тај несрећни Сноуден открио нешто што нисмо знали и пре њега.

Ако желиш озбиљне олдскул хладноратовске приче тајни и мистерија, ево једне - прогуглај о томе како Русија, тренутно с најпоузданијим ракетама, никако не успева да подигне последње сателите потребне за активирање њене мреже која би била алтернатива GPS-у.

Сноуден, Асанж и ти неки мутни ликови око њих су чисти пајаци. Можда чистог срца, али пајаци.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you… And the KGB is everywhere.

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tomat

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Па није да је тај несрећни Сноуден открио нешто што нисмо знали и пре њега.

Ако желиш озбиљне олдскул хладноратовске приче тајни и мистерија, ево једне - прогуглај о томе како Русија, тренутно с најпоузданијим ракетама, никако не успева да подигне последње сателите потребне за активирање њене мреже која би била алтернатива GPS-у.

Сноуден, Асанж и ти неки мутни ликови око њих су чисти пајаци. Можда чистог срца, али пајаци.

zar nije GLONASS već aktivan?
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

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Видиш, да... Промакло ми је да је у априлу ове године подигнут један сателит па је постигнута светска покривеност с минималних 24 комада и без ових сателита који су пали с ракетом.

Note to self: Кад хоћеш да изазиваш ауру параноје око ствари које не пратиш баш детаљно, ипак прво - провери.  :lol:
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you… And the KGB is everywhere.

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дејан

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...barcode never lies
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NSA Director Defends Surveillance Activities During Tense Black Hat Keynote

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LAS VEGAS –NSA director Gen. Keith Alexander’s keynote today at Black Hat USA 2013 was a tense confessional, an hour-long emotional and sometimes angry ride that shed some new insight into the spy agency’s two notorious data collection programs, inspired moments of loud applause in support of the NSA, and likewise, profane heckling that called into question the legality and morality of the agency’s practices.
Loud voices from the overflowing crowd called out Alexander on his claims that the NSA stands for freedom while at the same time collecting, storing and analyzing telephone business records, metadata and Internet records on Americans. He also denied lying to Congress about the NSA’s capabilities and activities in the name of protecting Americans from terrorism in response to such a claim from a member of the audience.


For the first 40 minutes of his talk, Alexander made the case for the agency’s authority under Section 215 of the Patriot Act and 702 of the FISA Act, backing that up with specific examples of terrorist plots such as the New York City subway bombings that were disrupted because of intelligence gathered in the two programs. He also talked about the training agents must pass before having access to the databases housing the collected data, as well as the auditing and compliance associated with those requests.
“The tools and things we use are very much the same tools you use in securing networks. The difference is the oversight and compliance that we have in these programs. That part is missing in much of the discussion,” Alexander said. “I believe it’s important for you to hear that, for you to understand what these people have to do to do their job to defend the nation and the oversight regime we have with the courts, Congress and the administration. You need to understand that to get a full understanding of what we do and do not do.”
All of this happened under the backdrop of new revelations from whistleblower Edward Snowden. The Guardian UK disclosed today, some three hours before Alexander took the stage, new details about another of the spy agency’s top secret data collection programs, this one called XKeyscore. The details, provided to the newspaper by Snowden, indicate that analysts have access to databases housing the online activities of millions, including browsing history, email messages and online chats.
U.S. intelligence leaders today also testified before a Senate Judiciary Committee and released previously classified documents on data collection activities.
The Snowden documents, the Guardian report says, back up a claim made by the former Booz Allen contractor that he as an analyst could “wiretap” any individual. Snowden, who reportedly remains in the Moscow airport awaiting asylum somewhere, shared training materials for XKeyscore with the Guardian. The documents instruct analysts how to mine intelligence databases for information on anyone in the U.S. The Guardian report says analysts need only to fill out a short on-screen form requesting the search; the form is not looked at nor approved by a court or NSA officials.
Alexander, meanwhile, said the two programs were birthed in 2007 largely because of the failures of intelligence agencies to connect the dots on information prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks. He reiterated that Internet companies share data only when compelled to do so by a court order. Alexander then shared a screenshot of the business records the NSA has access to through Section 215; the interface showed the date and time a record was collected, the from and to address of the call, length of the call, source and origin of metadata record. He said the NSA does not collect content such as voice or text message, nor does it gather subscriber names, addresses or locational information. If there is a suspicion of a terrorist connection, Alexander said the business record is passed on to the FBI, which then will investigate deeper.
As for PRISM, or Section 702 of the FISA Court, Alexander said this is the United States’ lawful intercept program, under which service providers can be compelled via a court order to hand over data to the intelligence agency. Alexander said agents are not authorized to listen to communications and that a Senate Select Committee review of the program found no “willful or knowledgeable violations of the law under this program,” he said, adding that the agency’s auditing tools would detect unauthorized access to records and the agent would be held accountable.
“There are allegations [the NSA] listen to all our emails; that’s wrong. We don’t,” Alexander said, adding that of 54 different terrorist-related activities identified through PRISM, 42 of which were disrupted, including 13 in the U.S., and 25 in Europe. “And if we did, we would be held accountable. There is 100 percent auditability on what we do.”
Alexander then answered questions from Black Hat general manager Trey Ford, which the conference solicited from its advisory board and select people in the security community. The questions, Ford said, were evaluated and ranked, though Alexander had no knowledge of them, according to Ford. During the Q&A, Alexander said the Snowden leaks had done significant and irreversible damage to the U.S.
“We’re talking about future terror attacks and the success we’ve had the last 10 years. What will we have in the next 10? What if the 42 of 54 were executed, what would that have meant to our civil liberties and privacy?” Alexander said; a response that was met with loud applause.
 

lilit

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Gledala sam snimak pre dva dana. Taj Alexander je FULL MORON. Al najveci šok mi je što  i hakeri nisu rebels ko nekad! Svet je puko! :lol:
That’s how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

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Ne bih previse verovao Kuriru, al vidi da su samo preneli vest.

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Agenti su prema njenim rečima pretražili kuću a onda i upitali njenog muža da li poseduje neku bombu, da li ima ekspres-lonac,
i dali je na Internetu nekad tražio da vidi kako se pravi bomba od eskpres lonca.
Dodala je da su agenti rekli njnom suprugu da imaju oko 100 ovakvih intervencija u sedmici
i da se za njih 99 ispostavi da se ništa ne događa.

Kurir - VELIKI BRAT: Zbog ekspres lonca FBI joj upao u kuću!

džin tonik

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Gledala sam snimak pre dva dana. Taj Alexander je FULL MORON. Al najveci šok mi je što  i hakeri nisu rebels ko nekad! Svet je puko! :lol:

a ti to znas procijeniti? mozes gledati snimak ili mu gledati u supak i ostat ces isto tulava. sef nsa ti je ful moron? bas si uhvatila boga za jaja dokopavsi se beca.

džin tonik

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a i rebel si u 3 pm da sudis drugima. pih.

džin tonik

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slobodno mi proturijeci. bit cu milosrdan. imam srca za srbsku megalomaniju, fobije, sta god.


Ugly MF

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slobodno mi proturijeci. bit cu milosrdan. imam srca za srbsku megalomaniju, fobije, sta god.

Sta li ti kenjas, poltronu proamerski, pa samo idiot moze da misli da nesto zavisi od kolorisanog Obame, i da demokratija funkcionise u sluzbi tog demosa, koji j enavodno izabrao sve svoje lidere.
Pa svi direktori svih tih tamo amerskih direkcija samo izvrsavaju necije naredbe, i to onih koji ih postavljaju i smenjuju u zavisnosti je li popularno imati ovako ili onako kolorisane i profilisane "lidere".
Zabole ih da ti znas za njih ili cik da ih ne poslusas!

A ako ces konkretno, ta koju prozivas je u Bec otisla sa svojim znanjem i sa njim tamo radi u nauci, a ne sa partijskim slizavanjima kao sto je svaki koji je u politici.

P.S.
Putin je utero cajper celoj Ameriki, ha ha, mora da ti je zao mnogo, pokazi saosecanje pa se idi nabodi na jedan klip kukuruza onako cisto da ne buljis vise u americke supke...

džin tonik

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Svi isti. Odmaglite iz svoje "zemlje" u moju i krenete mi sve objasnjavati. Toliko ste pametni da to svijet vidio nije. Trebalo bi vas nekako zastititi. Ti si milo zbrisalo rebelirati na gotovo u?

Ugly MF

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Pa ti si doso ovdje iz svoje lijepe tvoje, niko te nije zvao da kenjas.
Ali ti si u EU i sad si pametniji, jelte? Sad ste zavrsili poso, nista vise ne morate , eto najpametniji ste i sad imate raj na zemlji, nista vam vise ne fali? Samo ti falim ja da ti objasnjavam?
Eto, samo da znas ja molim Boga da Srbija nikad ne udje u EU samo zato sto ste vi tamo!

džin tonik

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Tema su bahati Srbi koji nisu u stanju urediti zemlju velicine postanske marke, kukavni, povrsni, nekulturni.

džin tonik

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... ja molim Boga da Srbija nikad ne udje u EU samo zato sto ste vi tamo!

odlicno, nadam se da te presveti alah cuje. za nekoliko godina srbi bi unistili sve za sto smo se genaracijama borili, u dva svjetska rata, nekoliko regionalnih, revolucijama, strajkovima, pa gradili i izgradjivali kroz krv i suze! ovako bar stizete na kapaljku pa je jos donekle podnosljivo.

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Pa naravno, Ratovali za papu, Islamske terroriste da ih gajite po Kosovu, i sve ste to izgradili prolivajuci krv, ali Srpsku, jer jedino je Srbija ovde ona koja i dalje pokaze srednji prst kad pokusate da joj uvalite dil vid d devil.
Gej parada? xfuck5

džin tonik

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ratovali za slobodu! borili se za najosnovnija ljudska prava! za radnika! za sve sto mrzite i sto vam smeta!
povraca mi se od tebe!!!