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Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: Mica Milovanovic on 16-08-2005, 19:41:04
Pronašao sam na netu sledeće:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html

HUSSAR BEGINNINGS:

The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century.

In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras.

The most prevalent type in the Hungarian army was the hussar, a light cavalryman with arms and armor similar to the Turkish deli. The hussar wore a dolman, or fur-lined jacket, boots, extending to the midcalf, and a cap consisting of a kolpak, or fur covering around a cylindrical hat. A Hungarian riding shield offered ... additional protection (Klucina, Petr. Armor: From Ancient to Modern Times. New York: Barnes & Noble Books, 1992, 90)

By the 17th century, Polish hussars made their own style of dress. The wings were of Serbian origin too. It was thought the wings were made to defend the backs of the men against swords and lassos, but modern theory is that they were used as intimidation. The noise and appearance of the feathers in the wind would spook the enemy's horses. The wings were mounted on a brass-edged wooden frame. The feathers were inserted into this frame, which was mounted on brackets or hinges (see illustration above). The wooden poles were arched at the top.

Ima li kod nas podataka da su srpski vitezovi noslili krila na oklopima?
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: Loengrin on 17-08-2005, 04:02:25
Pošto me ovakve stvari veoma interesuju potrudiću se da pronađem nešto po svojim knjigama, aaa je.. ga pa ja stižem kući tek krajem Avgusta.
Ma nema veze, potražiću sve jedno, pitaću i neke ljude. Znam da su konjanici umeli da nose krila na šlemovima, ali bez neke zvaničnije potvrde i ne znam da li je to bilo pre ili posle rogova.
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: otaku on 18-08-2005, 13:03:44
samo im jos krila fale
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: detektiv Hamfri on 18-08-2005, 22:19:09
i epitaf
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: detektiv Hamfri on 21-08-2005, 03:54:55
epitaf, koji ču uskoro da smislim, evo ga na primer več sam ga smislio dok si rekao keks uf kojom genijalnom brzinom ja razmišljam. dakle

"ko se mača lača... ovde počiva"

hmm dobar je, mogao bi i za neke novodobne vitezove da posluži
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: Loengrin on 21-08-2005, 14:23:16
Č? Hm.
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: detektiv Hamfri on 21-08-2005, 18:28:27
CIJEPIDLAKO :x
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: Mica Milovanovic on 21-08-2005, 21:26:45
Spreman da prihvatim optužbu da poput mixitrona nemam smisla za humor, mogu samo da zaključim da veoma malo poznajemo našu istoriju... Sve što znamo je da kenjamo da smo jeli iz srebrnog escajga u vreme kada je Zapadna Evropa jela prstima...
Znate li kako je uopšte izgledala naša konjica u četrnaestom veku?
Su čim smo išli na Turke?
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: PTY on 22-08-2005, 17:22:33
Ne "srebrnog escajga" Mićo nego zlatne viljuške.

Samo viljuške, da se razumemo; nožekanje im nisu bile od zlata.
:roll:
Title: Krilati oklopnici
Post by: NarMattaru on 22-08-2005, 17:51:25
Na Turke? Paaaaa, možda zahrđalom kašikom, i to onom za cipele? Jesmo li i nju imali pre Europe?