Juche sam na ABN-ovom "predavanju" chula chudnu tvrdnju da Trekera u svetu ima vishe od fanova Star wars-a jerbo Star tracks nude realistichniju viziju buducnosti. Da li je poenta u viziji buducnosti koju nude ti filmovi? Koliko su oni zapravo realnost upakovana u SF masku?Da li volite SF zato shto ga kapirate kao viziju buducnosti? Da li se Star tracks i Star wars iskljuchuju ili je to sve isto samo drugo pakovanje? Da li je sramota reci da si SF fan, a prezirati nachin Trekera i Star war-ovaca?
Quote from: "Unicorn"Juche sam na ABN-ovom "predavanju" chula chudnu tvrdnju da Trekera u svetu ima vishe od fanova Star wars-a jerbo Star tracks nude realistichniju viziju buducnosti.
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Da li je sramota reci da si SF fan, a prezirati nachin Trekera i Star war-ovaca?
Hmmm, na ABN-ovom predavanju se mogla čuti sva sila čudnih tvrdnji (moj lični favorit su roboti-žirafe :!: ) međutim mene je mnogo više zapanjilo opšte nadglasavanje i nadjačavanje publike koja se trudila iz petnih žila da pokaže kako
niko od prisutnih nije trekkie.
Ahem. :roll:
Maltene bi se moglo zaključiti kako niko nikada nije pogledao ni jednu epizodu
gnusne serije ST, a ako neko slučajno potkači na televiziji poneki frejm TNG koža počinje da mu bubri i puši se, i samo ga injekcija pravog, krštenog i ispravnog SF-a može vratiti u život.
U čemu je fora? Osim kontriranja ABN-u, jel' to toliko in pljuvati Star Trek (pali brate, narodnjaci su zakon) ili je nešto drugo na delu?
Lično, ja sam se sa svojih 16 godina maltene rasplakao kada je Tasha Yar poginula. Redovno sam gledao seriju (u osnovnoj preko HRT-a, a kasnije preko kabla), i jako dugo sam bio fan. Pravi fan, crtao planove brodova, smišljao priče, kukao što nema konvencija... Onda sam je, u jednom trenutku, prerastao i danas je gledam iz razonode, kao simpatičan (i bitan) deo SF kulture, a bogami i sa zamašnom dozom nostalgije. Kako je jedna moja prijateljica to krstila, kao poseban žanr
itisonske serije.
Bogami, 30. maja ja odoh u Novi Sad, sa omanjim društvom, da vidim Denise Crosby uživo. Ako bude dobre volje i vremena, možda i napravimo špicaste uši od plastelina. Idemo da se zabavimo (doduše, ne i da
predstavljamo svoju zemlju desetinama miliona ljudi širom sveta :wink: ). Izgleda da je
zabaviti se strašan greh i nešto nedopustivo dok se gleda/sluša/čita SF. Ili pak ne?
Možda sam, uprkos svemu, pogrešno pročitao opšte raspoloženje na predavanju/razgovoru?
Ja sam vristao na predavanju ne samo zbog trekkija, nego zbog ABN-ovskih VelikoSrBskihICrnoGorskih planova da reafirmise nacionalnu sliku kroz geek kulturu. (A smejao sam se kad bih ga zamislio sa Ferengi usima.)
Ja nemam nista protiv trekkija, samo mislim da su zaludjenici. Mislim, i ja sam geek, ali postoji hijerarhija geekizma i geekovi koji smatraju sebe vise cool od drugih geekova imaju prirodnu netrpeljivost prema njima.
Samo je fora sto je meni Star Trek za SF ono sto je Anne Rice za horror.
Quote from: "Spider Jerusalem"Ja nemam nista protiv trekkija, samo mislim da su zaludjenici. Mislim, i ja sam geek, ali postoji hijerarhija geekizma i geekovi koji smatraju sebe vise cool od drugih geekova imaju prirodnu netrpeljivost prema njima.
Errrr... pošteno si zapetljao ovu rečenicu... anyway... šta čini jednog geek-a "više cool" od drugog? Ko je taj ko može da odmeri ko je geekniji od koga, ako kulji od koga? :wink:
Quote from: "Spider Jerusalem"Samo je fora sto je meni Star Trek za SF ono sto je Anne Rice za horror.
Hmmm, recimo. Međutim, neosporno je (a milijuni sledbenika to definitivno pokazuju) da isto kao što Anne Rice ima svoje mesto u horror-u, tako i Star Trek ima svoje mesto u SF-u... a i jedno i drugo ume da bude veoma zabavno, što je, uglavnom, i poenta.
Quote from: "phuzzy"Errrr... correct me if I'm wrong, ali zar nisi upravo ovom izjavom svoju geeknost postavio kao "više cool" nego geeknost trekija? :wink:
Bingo!
Ali jesam rekao "geekovi koji
smatraju". :wink:
Kul ako se neko pali na Star track ili Star Wars. Ja sam to gledao kao klinac, mada razumem i ljude koji u tome pronalaze nesto vise.
Mada ST ili SW fanovi us bukvalno sekta, gori su od Tolkinovaca.
Dobro de, od Kingovaca niko nije gori.
Ali nisam video (igrao) nikad gluplje frpove od Stas Warsa i Star Tracka.
Ja nikada nisam igrao ni jednu SW igru, niti me to prvlaci. A ,inace, volim i Tolkina i SW i sve te stvari koji se na pravi i realan nacin bave odnosom dobra i zla i covekovog puta na tome (ovo bez trunke ironije).
A Staze sam gledao na TV, neki bese valjda Devet nesto i Next dzenerejsn. I bilo mi je malcice okej, ali nisam ih voleo jer su bile nekako skucene i ogranicene i bez imalo mngucnosti za iznenadjenje.
I jos jedan inace, nemam nista protiv da se bilo ko pali na bilo sta, a najmanje imam protiv kada se Natasa Henstridz pali na mene.
nek gore u vječnim vatrama pakla i jedni i drugi :evil:
Jes` vala - ABN ga udavi sa onim ochima, paucima i ostalim marginalijama.
Shto se Trekija tiche, nemam ni ja nishta protiv takvog nachina ispoljavanja "fan(at)izma" - ko voli, shiroko mu polje - sve dok ne pochnu mene da gnjeche da im se pridruzhim. Jesam gledala Zvezdane staze, narochito kao klinka, neki filmovi iz te serije su mi se chak i svideli (barem ideja), ali sebe ne mogu da zamislim u uniformi Zvezdane flote, a ne interesuje me narochito ni okupljanje po toj osnovi. Mislim, medjutim, da je chista shteta ogranichiti se, od svih divnih SF filmova/knjiga, samo na Zvezdane staze. Isto vazhi i za Star Wars i za Gospodara prstenova i za bilo koji "kultni" film/knjigu - ne treba preterivati, chak ni u obozhavanju.
Ono shto sam imala na umu pokrenuvshi ovu temu jeste neslaganje sa stavom da su Star Tracks bolja vizija buducnosti nego Star Wars, te da zato trekera ima toliko. O tome smo vec raspravljali, ali ponovicu: za mene su i jedan i drugi film spejs opere, vesterni u malo drugachijoj scenografiji, pri chemu je onda Star Wars bolja spejs opera. Mislim da ni u jednom SF filmu ne treba trazhiti viziju buducnosti. Ja bar ne chitam SF zato da bih nekako "saznala" kakva ce eventualno buducnost biti. I mada chesto skrecem pazhnju na nelogichnosti i apsurde u onom S, ovom prilikom javno priznajem da je drazh SF-a upravo u onom F. E, sad, ako prihvatite tezu da novih tema i motiva nema, da su sve teme vec vidjene i da je ono shto neka SF dela chini velikima NACHIN na koji se tema razradi i uvije u SF oblandu, onda bi i ova dva pomenuta filma zapravo bila samo preslikavanje realnog stanja stvari u neki SF milje. Pritom, u Zvezdanim stazama je VEOMA lako provaliti ko je Fenichanin, ko samuraj, ko shkotski gorshtak, ko sherif i kako se shiri americhka demokratija em politichka korektnost. U Ratovima zvezda isto, al` ipak malo bolje maskirano. Ergo, o kakvoj viziji buducnosti onda prichamo? Popularnost Zvezdanih staza nema veze sa tim, nego sa prepoznatljivim, a opet neobicnim "pakovanjem", kao i sa sasvim jasnim, ne preterano dubokoumnim zapletima u kojima se svako prosechan lako mozhe pronaci. O svukud prisutnoj patetici i shablonskoj emocionalnosti da i ne govorimo. Veoma slichno se mozhe reci i za Star Wars. Prema tome, za mene nema neke sushtinske razlike izmedju ova dva filma, a bogami ni izmedju njihovih fanova - sve je to isto, samo drugo pakovanje. I na kraju, ponavljam, super - ko voli. Za mene je to malo previshe shablonski otkacheno, te me sigurno necete videti sa maskom Klingonca ili Spokovim ushesima. :lol:
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Hmmm, na ABN-ovom predavanju se mogla čuti sva sila čudnih tvrdnji (moj lični favorit su roboti-žirafe :!: ) međutim mene je mnogo više zapanjilo opšte nadglasavanje i nadjačavanje publike koja se trudila iz petnih žila da pokaže kako niko od prisutnih nije trekkie.
Samo da skrenem paznju da se opste nadglasavanje i nadjacavanje nije pogrdno odnosilo na trekkie vec na sulude izjave dragog nam doktora. Iako mene definitivno necete videti u toj uniformi (a bogami i sa tim usima) sve bi to jos
mozda bilo i slatko da nas je neka druga osoba obavestila o tom dogadjaju. I naravno da ne smatram sebe trekkiem iako volem odredjene delove toga serijala, uprkos tome sto sam u rancu za vreme predavanja imao jedan ST film... voleti ili zabavljati se gledajusi ST definitivno ne znaci da je taj neko trekkie. A oni jesu poznati kao izuzetno iskljucivi i sl. i takvi stavovi uticu da ih narod posmatra kroz negativnu prizmu.
I nad geekom ima geek.
Unicorn, a sta sa SF delima koja se ciljano bave vizijom buducnosti?
Ja sam nekada bio fan i jednog i drugog....
Sve je to mirchindise....
Star Trek je Spanska serija za na SF-fanove (umiruje nam zivce)
Star Wars 4-6 - [remek delo] Star Wars 1-3 - [sranje]
Inace sada vise gledam serija tipa: Cheers, Seinfeld...
Jedva cekam Smallvile kod nas....
Ja imam vrlo ruzno misljenje o fanaticima koji po 20 godina obozavaju jedan film ili jednu seriju, mislim, ruzno misljenje o njihovoj inteligenciji i ososobljenosti za zivot... potpuno ne mogu da pojmim da odrasla osoba (35+) moze da se ponasa kao postpubertetlija i izrezuje i lepi slicice omiljenih likova po zidu bilo cega... elem, za one koji su mladji od 25 jos mogu da imam razumevanja, ako ce brzo da ih prodje.
Nepojamno mi je glupo da idem i slikam se sa potprosenom, neuglednom glumicom iz lose serije sa nikakvom harizmom. To samo ABNu moze da bude dogadjaj od izuzetne vaznosti za domaci SF.
Na kraju, ovaj dolazak glumice i celokupnu manifestaciju organizovao je PHOTON-TIDE, a ponesto o tome imate ovde:
http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/viewtopic.php?t=520
i na njihovom sajtu http://www.photontide.org
Ja moram da priznam da ne mogu da razumem (ni sada sa 40+, a slično sam mislio i sa 16-18) da neko može da se posveti obožavanju neke TV serije.
Pogotovu mi je teško da prihvatim da neko ko voli fantastiku (za koju je, sasvim sigurno, potrebno određeno pristajanje na konvencije razmišljanja koje se razlikuju od "normalnih"/"realističnih", šta već), može da se preda zatvaranju u okvire koje je neko drugi stvorio.
Ako se neko sa 50 godina time bavi, onda tu nešto nije u redu, ili ima neke nejasne interese...
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Unicorn, a sta sa SF delima koja se ciljano bave vizijom buducnosti?
To su onda uglavnom antiutopijski i postapokaliptichni filmovi/knjige. Oni su posebna kategorija. Kad smo prichali o njima, neshto se ne secam da pomenusmo Star Tracks i Star Wars :twisted: U vreme Zhila Verna, AKO se slozhite da je on pisao SF, to neko opsenjivanje chitalaca novosmishljenim spravama koje ce poboljshati buducnost i vizije buducnosti same po sebi JESU bile manir u SF-u, ali to je bilo praskozorje zhanra, zar ne? Mislim da smo (mislim na ljude, generalno) se poprilichno makli od praskozorja, nagledali se svacheg, prestali da budemo egzaltirani optimisti u pogledu buducnosti, usudila bih se da kazhem i sazreli, kao fanovi i chitaoci. Medjutim, problem je u tome shto se niko ne radja kao gotov SF fan :lol: , nego se to postaje ili "stvara", a zahteva prilichno rada na sebi. Mozhda bi vatreni Trekiji ili Star war-ovci ili koji vec fanovi mogli da se shvate kao faza u razvicu pravog, adultnog SF-fana. Pri chemu je i u toj oblasti, kao i u biologiji, poznato da postoje vrste kod kojih do metamorfoze iz larvenog u adultni oblik nikad ne dodje, vec provedu zhivot u razbibrizi i veselju. :lol: Po tom pitanju slazhem se sa Bobanom i Micom.
Quote from: "Mica Milovanovic"Ja moram da priznam da ne mogu da razumem (ni sada sa 40+, a slično sam mislio i sa 16-18) da neko može da se posveti obožavanju neke TV serije.
Hmmmm... ti se nikada nisi igrao partizana i nemaca kad si bio mali? Ili kaubojaca i indijanaca? Ili cega vec da je bilo popularno kada si bio mali?
Nikad nisi imao omiljenog muzicara, pevaca, sportistu, tim, nekoga, licnost realnu ili fiktivnu, koja ti je predstavljala idola? Nekakav role-playing koji ti je donosio radost? Sportski klub za koji si navijao? To je onda veoma tuzno. :cry:
Quote from: "Unicorn"Mozhda bi vatreni Trekiji ili Star war-ovci ili koji vec fanovi mogli da se shvate kao faza u razvicu pravog, adultnog SF-fana. Pri chemu je i u toj oblasti, kao i u biologiji, poznato da postoje vrste kod kojih do metamorfoze iz larvenog u adultni oblik nikad ne dodje, vec provedu zhivot u razbibrizi i veselju. :lol:
Hmmm, a mozda bi pravi, adultni SF-fan (SF-fan? ST-fan? zar nije razlika tek u neznatnom stepenu?) mogao da se posmatra kao faza u razvicu kompletne licnosti koja je u stanju da prihvati cinjenicu da svaki zanr, ma koliko ostro definisan, ipak dopusta ogromnu raznovrsnost sadrzaja i tema, koja je u stanju da prihvati ljudsku razlicitost i da prihvati da svakome prija nesto drugo.
Mozda cak, da prihvati da cak i u raznim "budjavim" podzanrovima postoji gradacija u kvalitetu - cak i medju najgrdjim sapunicama za domacice postoji razlika izmedju bezbudzetnog krsa kakav se uobicajeno pusta do necega tipa Zabranjena Ljubav (koja je, opet, verovali ili ne, SF - okosnica price je kloniranje i moralno-eticko-kulturalne posledice istog).
Tako gledano, kao spejs opera, Star Wars i Star Trek, iako prilaze temi sa razlicitih strana, predstavljaju vrhunski kvalitet - zajedno sa jos sacicom ostvarenja kao sto je, npr. Battlestar Galactica. Sturgeon je to rekao za SF, a vazi za bilo sta - 90% spejs opera su sranje, ali 90% SF-a je sranje i 90% svega sto ljudi naprave jeste sranje.
Pa cak i onda, uvek ce se naci neko ko voli to sranje (i sto je ekstremni slucaj - svestan je da je sranje, ali ga ipak voli iz nekog svog razloga) i sta onda? Pretpostaviti da je doticni kreten ili zaostao na nekom nizem nivo razvoja samo zato sto mu se svidja nesto sto pravom, adultnom SF-fanu predstavlja krsh? Ako smem da citiram jednog velikog filozofa, "ain't that a bit racialist?"
Quote from: "phuzzy"
Pa cak i onda, uvek ce se naci neko ko voli to sranje (i sto je ekstremni slucaj - svestan je da je sranje, ali ga ipak voli iz nekog svog razloga) i sta onda? Pretpostaviti da je doticni kreten ili zaostao na nekom nizem nivo razvoja samo zato sto mu se svidja nesto sto pravom, adultnom SF-fanu predstavlja krsh? Ako smem da citiram jednog velikog filozofa, "ain't that a bit racialist?"
of course it's racistic my dear phuzzy, that's the whole point... naravno, treba ipak imati vise postovanja za trackere nego za obozavateljke pravih sapunica zbog onog aspekta star tracka u kojem je on jeftina (ali ipak sasvim smislena) alegorija hladnog rata i americkog mondijalizma, u spanskim serijama ipak nemamo jedan takav layer...
gosh boy, i almost pitty you. must be horrid joining sides with abominations like ABN... :wink:
Send, zapažam povećan % mizantropije, cinizma i lavkraftizma u tvojim novijim postovima.
Da li si ti to nekim bogohulno-zlokobnim hackerskim putevima uspeo da provališ u moj komp i iščitaš moja neobjavljena (zlo)dela – or what? Čak i povećana upotreba engleskog... Hmmm...
Da te nije opseo neki od odbačenih larvalnih oblika koje smo Spajder i ja pravili u izvesnim neimenovanim cnomagijskim ritualima? :o
ne, objasnjenje (po obicaju) je mnogo prizemnije: uzeo sam juche, ispunjen optimizmom i ocekivanjima da odgledam American Psycho i...
...gospode, kakvo je to bozje sranje. osecam se tako kontaminirano... :cry: :cry: :cry:
QuoteNikad nisi imao omiljenog muzicara, pevaca, sportistu, tim, nekoga, licnost realnu ili fiktivnu, koja ti je predstavljala idola? Nekakav role-playing koji ti je donosio radost? Sportski klub za koji si navijao? To je onda veoma tuzno.
Nisam, jebi ga... :cry:
Uzgred, kakve veze ima role-playing sa ovim ostalim?
QuoteHmmm, a mozda bi pravi, adultni SF-fan (SF-fan? ST-fan? zar nije razlika tek u neznatnom stepenu?) mogao da se posmatra kao faza u razvicu kompletne licnosti koja je u stanju da prihvati cinjenicu da svaki zanr, ma koliko ostro definisan, ipak dopusta ogromnu raznovrsnost sadrzaja i tema, koja je u stanju da prihvati ljudsku razlicitost i da prihvati da svakome prija nesto drugo.
Ne.
QuotePa cak i onda, uvek ce se naci neko ko voli to sranje (i sto je ekstremni slucaj - svestan je da je sranje, ali ga ipak voli iz nekog svog razloga) i sta onda? Pretpostaviti da je doticni kreten ili zaostao na nekom nizem nivo razvoja samo zato sto mu se svidja nesto sto pravom, adultnom SF-fanu predstavlja krsh? Ako smem da citiram jednog velikog filozofa, "ain't that a bit racialist?"
Yes.
Quote from: "phuzzy"ti se nikada nisi igrao partizana i nemaca kad si bio mali?
jer sam bio najmlađi uvijek sam glumio nijemce :x :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Quotene, objasnjenje (po obicaju) je mnogo prizemnije: uzeo sam juche, ispunjen optimizmom i ocekivanjima da odgledam American Psycho i...
...gospode, kakvo je to bozje sranje. osecam se tako kontaminirano...
Hmm, interesantno. Meni se taj film bas svideo. Onaj Christian Bale je jedan opaki kuckin sin. :twisted:
A i mali omaz Teksaskom Masakru me je kupio...
Nego da se vratim na temu...
ABN, Trekkies, vizije buducnosti, fanovi itd.
Ja sam propustio sam pocetak predavanja, pa sam bio uskracen za neke od bisera, ali najbolje je sacuvano za kraj. Mislim, volim i ja Zvezdane Staze, fina je to zabava, samo sto nakon treceg filma sve postaje pomalo pointless, slicno vazi i za serije. Gledao sam Next Generation i bio mi je uglavnom okej, ali ovaj Deep Space Nine me je neeevidjeno smorio, posle toga sam odustao.
ABN rece da je vizija u Star Treku bliza mogucoj buducnosti od Star Wars-a, pa i jeste
bliza, ali znaci li to da je i realno-ostvariva, uverljiva?
Meni je Rodenberijeva bolesno pozitivisticka vizija buducnosti uvek delovala, iako nesumnjivo dopadljiva, naivno i neuverljivo.
Mozda sam ja suvise mracan tip, ili previse citam Dicka, ali kada mislim o
svetu za nekih pedesetak godina to je Tecite suze moje, rece policajac.
BTW Spajderove upadice su mi bile zabavniji deo predavanja. :lol:
Jesam li propustio nesto 'bitno' u prvih pola sata? :?:
(Ajde zamislite ABN-a u Star Trek fazonu, sa sve uniformom i siljatim usima na naslovnici Tajmsa... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:)
Xe, xe, xe...
Ima josh od ABN-a. Jutros sam dobila duuuuuuugu, tragikomichnu poruku od njega - opet o Tashi Jar, ako je vec nisam omrzla zbog ABN-ovog gushenja, sad cu. Tamo se chak pominje "obaveza i duzhnost" saradnika, u uvijenoj formi i sankcije protiv neposlushnih, a, bogami, postoji i gorak osvrt na "odbijanje" drushtva "Lazar Komarchic" da uchestvuje u cirkusu. Chovek je veci davezh od onih Jehovinih svedoka koji idu od vrata do vrata da agituju. Zashto sve ovo pishem? Pa, zato shto se osecam ugnjavljeno i izmaltretirano zahtevom da uradim i ponasham se shodno nechijem fanovskom opredeljenju. TO nije u redu.
Dragi Trekiji i ostali fanovi tog tipa, kao shto se vi vredjate kad vam kazhu da je besmisleno vashe obozhavanje, tako se i fanovi mog tipa vredjaju kad preterano agresivno agitujete. Pustite malo druge da zhive bez vashih uniformi i ushiju.
Miloshe, i ja mislim da bi bliska buducnost mogla da lichi na svet iz Tecite suze moje.... :lol: Shto se tiche Zvezdanih staza i buducnosti, nema tu nikakve vizije niti ostvarljivosti ili neostvarljivosti - u filmovima i serijama je prikazana sadashnjost, onakva kakva je, samo zamaskirana SF fazonom. Jadan ljudski rod ako ce u buducnosti prozhivljavati Zvezdane staze do u beskonachnost. Filip K. Dik je mrachan, ali mislim da su njegove vizije (a on ih je imao i nezavisno od pisanja) mnooogo "primenljivije" na ono shto nas cheka u par sledecih vekova. Svidelo se to nama ili ne. Bili optimisti ili pesimisti, ovakvi ili onakvi fanovi.
P.S. Phuzzy, nije bash svaka serija o kloniranju SF. Bar ne danas.
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Hmm, interesantno. Meni se taj film bas svideo. Onaj Christian Bale je jedan opaki kuckin sin. :twisted:
A i mali omaz Teksaskom Masakru me je kupio...
citava postavka Batemana kao manijaka u filmu (beskrajno sam srecan sto me je neki insinkt povukao da NE kupim tu Laguninu knjigu, mada sam gotovo sve horror i fantasy od njih procitao) rekao bih zasniva se na cinjenici da Bale uopste ne ume da glumi karakterne uloge. njegovi traktati o pop muzici su ocajni i nista vise.
"Who is Ted Bunndy?" ne pita se samo ona jadna sekratarica vec verovatno i polovina glupih amera koji su gledali film. uopste, tih scene koje nedvosmisleno prikazuju Batemanovu idolatriju prema serijskim ubicama je malo ili su nerazumljive a, koliko su mi pricali, predstavljaju sustinu Ellisovog romana i jezovitosti Batemana koji je vise neispunjeni copycat nego bilo sta drugo. jer, kako inace objasniti nepostojanje profila njegovih zrtvi?
o layeru socijalne satire ne bih ni da pricam, koliko mi je bio mucan, plitak i repulsivan....
ne znam odakle tom ABN-u (kol'ko prichate o njemu dobila sam besplatnu virtuelnu 3D animaciju) da fanova ST-a ima vishe od fanova SW, samo zbog toga shto ST pruza realistichniju viziju buducnosti.
gloopost.
Star Wars su neshto shto svako moze da odgleda bez daljeg interesovanja za SF zanr.
svi ljudi oko mene su odgledali SW, ali se retko ko od njih uopshte interesuje za SF zanr.
Star Track je chesto zamoran, pogotovo kad krenu da nagomilavaju "struchne" izraze.
pre neki dan sam odgledala jednu epizodu u kojoj ama bash nishta nisam razumela.
oba serijala jesu kako je Unicorn slikovito opisala, faza u razvicu adultnog fana (adultnog :!: ) SF-a, samo shto je mnogo veci % onih koji se zaustave na larvenom stadijumu posle odgledanih ratova zvezda.
QuoteABN rece da je vizija u Star Treku bliza mogucoj buducnosti od Star Wars-a, pa i jeste bliza, ali znaci li to da je i realno-ostvariva, uverljiva?
Meni je Rodenberijeva bolesno pozitivisticka vizija buducnosti uvek delovala, iako nesumnjivo dopadljiva, naivno i neuverljivo.
Mozda sam ja suvise mracan tip, ili previse citam Dicka, ali kada mislim o
svetu za nekih pedesetak godina to je Tecite suze moje, rece policajac.
naravno.
kad se setim filma First Contact gde captain J.L.Picard kaze kako u tom i tom veku ne postoji novac i kako ljudi rade na self improvement...e tu su ga ugasili sa svojom realnom vizijom buducnosti (na stranu gluposti tipa putovanje brzinom svetlosti etc.)
gde ce biti taj ST miting/maskenbal/sharada?
da se ushunjam.
Boban je na ovom topicu postovao link u vezi dolaska Tashe Yar. Tamo pishe gde i kog dana. Jedino ne pishe u koliko sati, poshto je to meni od izuzetne vaznosti.
Quote from: "Unicorn"Xe, xe, xe...
Ima josh od ABN-a. Jutros sam dobila duuuuuuugu, tragikomichnu poruku od njega - opet o Tashi Jar, ako je vec nisam omrzla zbog ABN-ovog gushenja, sad cu. Tamo se chak pominje "obaveza i duzhnost" saradnika, u uvijenoj formi i sankcije protiv neposlushnih, a, bogami, postoji i gorak osvrt na "odbijanje" drushtva "Lazar Komarchic" da uchestvuje u cirkusu. Chovek je veci davezh od onih Jehovinih svedoka koji idu od vrata do vrata da agituju.
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Trebalo bi da budem totalni idiot pa da ucestvujem u tom nezemaljskom skupu na nacin koji je osmislio ABN. Covek je definitivno inspektor Kluzo domacheg SF-a. Svako ko krene da se nervira zbog njegovih postupaka, rizikuje tuzbinu sudbinu Kluzoovog shefa - glavnog inspektora Drajfusa.
Unicorn, bolje promeni mejl adresu. :mrgreen:
Kill Clouseau!
Ахахахахахахахахха!
Kill Clouseau! :x
:evil:
Quote from: "taurus-jor"Boban je na ovom topicu postovao link u vezi dolaska Tashe Yar. Tamo pishe gde i kog dana. Jedino ne pishe u koliko sati, poshto je to meni od izuzetne vaznosti.
Mislim da je u 17.00.
Quote from: "Boban"Quote from: "taurus-jor"Boban je na ovom topicu postovao link u vezi dolaska Tashe Yar. Tamo pishe gde i kog dana. Jedino ne pishe u koliko sati, poshto je to meni od izuzetne vaznosti.
Mislim da je u 17.00.
Hvala. :)
Planiram da odem, ali bih do 22 sata trebalo da se vratim.
Što? Imas izlaz do 22?
Delovao si mi samostalnije...
Quote from: "Unicorn"P.S. Phuzzy, nije bash svaka serija o kloniranju SF. Bar ne danas.
Ne, ali
Zabranjena Ljubav jeste. Bar danas.
Quote from: "Boban"Što? Imas izlaz do 22?
Delovao si mi samostalnije...
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ja volim secanje i na star trek i na star vors i na ono sto su mi te stvari znacile kad sam bio klinja. bez njih bi danas bio drugaciji. srbija je mala a svemir se tanji, vreme je za spavanje.
...a u medjuvremenu je snimljen Trekkies 2 i u zavrsnu verziju je ocigledno uslo i nesto snimaka sa konvencije u Novom Sadu.
evo malog isecka iz kritike filma sa ain't it cool news sajta:
What was most interesting though was the visit to Serbia/Balkans/former Yugoslavia (can't keep those country names straight anymore without a program). Turns out the positive message of Trek had an even bigger impact in that war-torn and oppressed region, where it provided a real sense of hope for some folks. Every Trek fan there assumed they were the only one, so the first Trek convention held there had a real emotional impact for those in attendance. Here, they're so common they're nearly a joke. There... well, you just couldn't laugh at them because you could tell it was a real positive and uplifting influence on their lives.
>There... well, you just couldn't laugh at them because you could tell it was a real positive and uplifting influence on their lives.
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Evo, i ja chu da ti pravim drushtvo.
:x
Emotional impact na mjkulivmbzjuimperijalisticku!!! :P :x :x :x :x
Kao bivsi predsjednik hrvatske udruge ljubitelja Star Warsa, moram se nadovezati.
Dakle, sto se tice razlike izmedju ST i SW univerzuma, radi se naprosto o tome da je ST klasicni prikaz utopije buducnosti, dok se kod SW radi o prostom reafirmiranju i prepakiranju klasicnih mitova o borbi dobra i zla i o heroju koji od nekoga tko je "nitko i nista" kroz razne izazove i svladavanja unutarnjih konflikata, postaje onaj koji je u stanju iskupiti i iznijeti na svjetlo izgubljene duse.
Anyway- sto se tice samih fanova, mislim da vecina vas govori o bolesnicima kakvih ima u US, onima koji ne znaju razlikovati stvarnost od maste i mit od realnosti. Ne znam kako kod vas u Srbiji, ali u HR se ST i SW fanovi okupljaju iskljucivo radi zabave i u biti je to samo dobar izgovor za druzenje. Svatko tko je bio na takvim sastancima mogao se uvjeriti da se prica o svemu drugom osim o ST i SW. :D
Dakle, ne znam koga vi opisujete, ali vecina fanova koje ja poznajem (a poznajem ih gotovo sve u HR) bavi se drugim stvarima, cita ozbiljnu literaturu, a kad se pozele "ispuhati" bave se takvim kojestarijama kao sto su ST i SW. Po tome se ne razlikuju bitno od raznih gamera i role playera, LARPera i inih.
Poanta svega je ZABAVA, a za "ozbiljne" stvari i problema uvijek ima vremena. :!:
My proposal to tabs. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIsHQfKZ4g#)
xnerd xrofl xrofl xnerd
Star Trek v Star Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BYNdTHjstI#ws)
Star Wars is SOOO Much Better than Star Trek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU2jqIRjJVI#ws)
Dearest Carrie... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPiWm4mGgyg#ws)
Happy Holidays from William Shatner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcRGzx2g-w#ws)
Jedan od komentara:
"One dislike, must be Carrie Fisher" :mrgreen:
We are sad to report that concept art legend Ralph McQuarrie passed away today. McQuarrie was the designer of the original Star Wars movies, Battlestar Gallactica, ET, Star Trek and many other science fiction classics.
Arguably his most recognizable creation was the design for Darth Vader, (back when the movie was still called Adventures of Luke Starkiller.)
It is impossible to overstate the effect he has had on a generation of movie goers and how we see the future. (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/ralph-mcquarrie-19292012)
From The Nerdist Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nerdist?feature=watch): Cultural icon Leonard Nimoy talks with LA Times Reporter Geoff Boucher about his work as an actor, director and photographer. In part one of a two-part interview, Nimoy reveals what he first thought of the original Star Trek series and details about the making of Star Trek IV.
xcheers
A US Star Trek fan has launched an online project aimed at building a working replica of the USS Enterprise ... in twenty years.
"BTE Dan", as the fan identifies himself at the buildtheenterprise.org (http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/) site, says he's tired of stagnation in the world's space programs and feels that shooting for an iconic project like building a ship modelled on the NCC-1701-x would be a jolly good way to get things moving again. Besides, he argues, the Enterprise isn't really that much bigger than other really big stuff humans have built, like Dubai's colossal Burj Khalifa.
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Dan also thinks the design of the Enterprise "is quite functional", not least because the saucer is a fine shape to house a gadget he calls a "gravity wheel" that will rotate endlessly to provide gravity to the crew. "This is accomplished by magnetically suspending the wheel as it rotates inside a sealed donut-shaped cavity that is formed along the interior perimeter of the saucer hull. The wheel touches no other parts of the ship as it continuously rotates at a constant rate," Dan writes. He also suggests (http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/conceptual-design) the ship that suggest it could hum along quite nicely with electrically-powered ion drives that use on-board nuclear reactors to supply power.
To fund the project, Dan suggests (http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/funding-politics) "the US dedicate .27% of its GDP each year to the NASA Enterprise program" and even suggests which US departments can afford a funding cut to pay for the new program. His vision is for the project to run in perpetuity, to ensure a new Enterprise rolls off the production line every 33 years. After four generations of production, he imagines technology will have reached the point at which the newest Enterprise will be able to sustain a constant 1G of thrust and therefore reach Alpha Centauri after a brief, nine-year, cruise.
To get the project moving, Dan imagines an open source design approach. He's not quite sure how that will work, but does have a request he thinks may kick things off: "If you are a professional mechanical engineer, with experience doing 3D component design including fully simulating them for stress analysis, feel free to contact me if you are interested in discussing this further." ®
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/28/build_the_enterprise_project/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/28/build_the_enterprise_project/)
William Shatner sings to George Lucas - My way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIBchVxSmE#)
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William Shatner's latest project is a documentary that takes a close look at Star Trek fans. It's called William Shatner's 'Get a Life' (http://www.williamshatner.com/Article435.phtml), a reference to his now-classic Saturday Night Live skit.
William Shatner Get a Life premieres at San Diego Comic-Con on Saturday, July 14, 2012 at 7:00 pm at Reading Cinemas Gaslamp in San Diego, California...then on EPIX, EpixHD.Com EPIX Apps including Xbox, Roku Players And More On July 28th At 8 PM ET.
[via Laughing Squid (http://laughingsquid.com/william-shatners-get-a-life-a-documentary-of-star-trek-fans/)]
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Iliti:
Get A Life! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeS4tVFbNNk#ws)
William Shatner's Get A Life Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb4qN8yJdsI#ws)
:mrgreen:
ja sam vjerovatno potpuni uljez na ovoj temi pošto nisam pogledao ni minut Star Treka ni u kakvom obliku. Vrijedi li to gledati uopšte, pošto je SW realno smeće.
Apparently, ako je celokupni Star Trek kanon fudbalski teren, postoji nekoliko vlati trave koje nisu potpuno smeće.
Quote from: Бата Животиња on 10-07-2012, 21:12:30
ja sam vjerovatno potpuni uljez na ovoj temi pošto nisam pogledao ni minut Star Treka ni u kakvom obliku. Vrijedi li to gledati uopšte, pošto je SW realno smeće.
Epizoda iz TOS koji ja predlažem da pogledaš je Plato's Stepchildren iz treće sezone.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708443/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708443/)
Vrlo zanimljiv naslov :idea:
Pogledao sam Plato's Stepchildren, brate, ne samo da ovo nema veze sa Platonom, već su oni maltene obučeni kao Rimljani koji dolaze par stotina godina nakon Platona. Ako bih morao negdje da ih uglavim onda bi to bilo među antičke bogove, a nikako Platonovce.
2001 - Star Wars VS Star Trek - The Rivalry Continues
2001 - Star Wars VS Star Trek - The Rivalry Continues.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKZsbBDKZNE#)
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SW zloće kao deca.
http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-villains-imagined-adorable-tykes.html (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-villains-imagined-adorable-tykes.html)
VENDORS - EPISODE 1 (STAR WARS ANIMATED SERIES) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06ZRIYikrU#ws)
Iggy Pop kao Vorta.
Iggy Pop Star Trek DS9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7UNU9r51I#)
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ништа ти не ваља та слика перине, не видим је
Battlestar Galactica Vs Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs Babylon 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnPG19npW8#)
Quote from: дејан on 13-08-2012, 11:23:32
ништа ти не ваља та слика перине, не видим је
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^ xrofl хвала!
Quote from: дејан on 15-08-2012, 10:42:02
^ xrofl хвала!
Nema na čemu :lol: Poslao mi drug porukom na fejsu, znači valjao sam se od smeha pola sata :)
Neko mi je ukrao biciklo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nxcw7ln9AU#ws)
Sad ozbiljno!
Star Wars vs. Star Trek: The Starships Compared [Infographic]
(via BitRebels)
http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/star-wars-vs-star-trek/ (http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/star-wars-vs-star-trek/)
aka: http://cdn.bitrebels.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Star-Wars-Star-Trek-Infographic.jpg (http://cdn.bitrebels.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Star-Wars-Star-Trek-Infographic.jpg)
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Čemu suze? xnerd
Više sam naklonjen trekerizmu. Pa zato :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Onda treba da budeš srećan što Trek univerzum ima realnije cifre. U SW šalju brod u trenu na drugi kraj galaksije, i imaju razne milione megatona i gigavata, a storm truper ne može blasterom da pogodi Vukija ni kad leži.
A vrhunsku ratnu masinu mozes da sapletes pletenim konopcima i smrskas je balvanom kao konzervu...
@ mac: Šteta što gigavati imaju svoj uticaj u oba univerzuma, dok vukija u ST svetu nema. Ali zato ima pregršt "crvenih mundira", a njih ne moraš ni da gađaš da bi krepnuli. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
@ Berserker: E dobro, onda još ima neke šanse za Krka! On je vičan uništavanju nadmoćnih neprijatelja "štapom i kanapom". :)
Neko je turio na FB 8)
Deset stvari koje - najverovatnije - niste znali o ST:TOS-u (via io9) (http://io9.com/5941608/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-star-trek-the-original-series)
To Boldly Go - Season Three (the story of "The Kiss")
http://www.youtube.com/embed/hukEGgixOSg?start=641&end=1021 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/hukEGgixOSg?start=641&end=1021)
Nisam ni trekijevac ni vorsovac, ali realno gledajući sasvim je logično zašto Trekijevci imaju više fanova. Prosto duže traju i imaju više franšiza. Trekijevci su krenuli 60-tih godina prošlog veka, znatno ranije nego vorsovci. Vešto su uspeli kada je se već originalna franšiza počela pretvarati u prah, da je osveže nekim novim filmovima i novim serijalima - TNG, Deep Space 9, Generations... od kojih sam ja ispratio samo delimično TNG.
Uvek sam i na rivalitet između trekija i vorsovaca gledao i sa neke socijalne strane. Treki autori su narodna ekipa (daleko da su sirotinja raja) a vorsovci su režimski ljudi (prebogata Lukas produkcija).
Ako gledamo po zvezdama koje su lansirale ove 2 rivalske ekipe, realno gledajući morali bi da stavimo tačku na jedno ili dva imena.
Kod Trekija je najveća zvezda postao već dobrano sredovečni Patrik Stjuart, koji se posle potvrdio nizom kvalitetnih uloga u nabudženim produkcijama. Mogao bi i Vilijema Šetnera da dodam, mada ipak prednost dajem Patriku.
Kod Vorsovaca je to bez sumnje Harison Ford, koji je nadmašio po popularnosti bilo kog glumca iz oba serijala.
Mi smo prilično dugo na ex-yu prostorima bili prilično ograničeni sa ponudom ovih franšiza, koja se svodila na redovne filmove i poneki strip. Pisani romani su bili prilično retki i tek bi pravi fanovi i ko je bio u mogućnosti nabavljao romane, figurice, i sav ostali asesoar. Naravno tu su se pojavile i kompjuterske i konzolne igre.
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Kao zaključak: Mislim da je i od Trekija i od Vorsa bolja Galaktika. :|
Odakle ti da ima više Trekijevaca? Ja nešto ne bih rekao...
Kao prilog prvoj poruci u ovoj temi odakle je cela ova priča i krenula, a malo i uz pomoć googla i lične opservacije ova dva serijala koju sam i izneo u poruci.
Može biti, al ne mora značiti, što bi rekao neko. :)
Inače mislim da na prostoru ex-yu je više vorsovaca, ali globalno u svetu, pogotovo u Amerikama je više trekija.
U svakom slučaju oba serijala su i te kako obeležila SF žanr ali na žalost i ubila mnoga kvalitetnija ostvarenja, koja su živela samo par sezona ili ni toliko. Kao jednu od propuštenih prilika da se razvije u dugačak serijal navodim recimo divnu SF kaubojštinu - FIREFLY.
David Brin: "Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists
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In teaching us how to distinguish good from evil, Lucas prescribes judging by looks: Villains wear Nazi helmets. They hiss and leer, or have red-glowing eyes, like in a Ralph Bakshi cartoon. On the other hand, "Star Trek" tales often warn against judging a book by its cover — a message you'll also find in the films of Steven Spielberg, whose spunky everyman characters delight in reversing expectations and asking irksome questions.
Above all, "Star Trek" generally depicts heroes who are only about 10 times as brilliant, noble and heroic as a normal person, prevailing through cooperation and wit, rather than because of some inherited godlike transcendent greatness. Characters who do achieve godlike powers are subjected to ruthless scrutiny. In other words, "Trek" is a prototypically American dream, entranced by notions of human improvement and a progress that lifts all. Gene Roddenberry's vision loves heroes, but it breaks away from the elitist tradition of princes and wizards who rule by divine or mystical right.
By contrast, these are the only heroes in the "Star Wars" universe.
Yes, "Trek" can at times seem preachy, or turgidly politically correct. For example, every species has to mate with every other one, interbreeding with almost compulsive abandon. The only male heroes who are allowed any testosterone are Klingons, because cultural diversity outweighs sexual correctness. (In other words, it's OK for them to be macho 'cause it is "their way.") "Star Trek" television episodes often devolved into soap operas. Many of the movies were very badly written. Nevertheless, "Trek" tries to grapple with genuine issues, giving complex voices even to its villains and asking hard questions about pitfalls we may face while groping for tomorrow. Anyway, when it comes to portraying human destiny, where would you rather live, assuming you'll be a normal citizen and no demigod? In Roddenberry's Federation? Or Lucas' Empire?
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Having said all that, let me again acknowledge that "Star Wars" harks to an old and very, very deeply human archetype. Those who listened to Homer recite the "Iliad" by a campfire knew great drama. Achilles could slay a thousand with the sweep of a hand — as Darth Vader murders billions with the press of a button — but none of those casualties matters next to the personal saga of a great one. The slaughtered victims are mere minions. Extras, without families or hopes to worry about shattering. Spear-carriers. Only the demigod's personal drama is important.
Thus few protest the apotheosis of Darth Vader — nee Anakin Skywalker — in "Return of the Jedi."
To put it in perspective, let's imagine that the United States and its allies managed to capture Adolf Hitler at the end of the Second World War, putting him on trial for war crimes. The prosecution spends months listing all the horrors done at his behest. Then it is the turn of Hitler's defense attorney, who rises and utters just one sentence:
"But, your honors ... Adolf did save the life of his own son!"
Gasp! The prosecutors blanch in chagrin. "We didn't know that! Of course all charges should be dismissed at once!"
The allies then throw a big parade for Hitler, down the avenues of Nuremberg.
It may sound silly, but that's exactly the lesson taught by "Return of the Jedi," wherein Darth Vader is forgiven all his sins, because he saved the life of his own son.
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Remember the final scene in "Return of the Jedi," when Luke gazes into a fire to see Obi-Wan, Yoda and Vader, smiling in the flames? I found myself hoping it was Jedi Hell, for the amount of pain those three unleashed on their galaxy, and for all the damned lies they told. But that's me. I'm a rebel against Homer and Achilles and that whole tradition. At heart, some of you are, too.
This isn't just a one-time distinction. It marks the main boundary between real, literate, humanistic science fiction — or speculative fiction — and most of the movie "sci-fi" you see nowadays.
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http://www.salon.com/1999/06/15/brin_main/ (http://www.salon.com/1999/06/15/brin_main/)
Zar nije Vejder bio pod imperatorovim mističnim uticajem, primoran da mu služi?
Ma kaptanica Džejnvej bi pokosila te džedaje samo tako 8)
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Are you ready for Star Wars Reads Day (http://star-wars.suvudu.com/2012/07/star-wars-reads-day.html)?
October 6, 2012 has been designated Star Wars Reads Day, a multi-publisher initiative that celebrates reading and Star Wars, with events taking place in bookstores and libraries across the United States. (Alderaan is supposed to be participating, but they could not be reached to confirm this...)
LUCASFILM LTD. AND PUBLISHING PARTNERS ANNOUNCE STAR WARS READS DAY
Bookstore and Library events throughout the US to be held October 6, 2012
SAN DIEGO, CA., July 13, 2012 – Lucasfilm and its publishing partners announced today a national Star Wars Reads Day to be held this October 6, 2012. Star Wars Reads Day is a multi-publisher initiative that celebrates reading and Star Wars. On October 6, events will take place at hundreds of bookstores and libraries across the United States. Participating publishing partners include Abrams, Chronicle Books, Dark Horse, Del Rey, DK, Scholastic, Titan Magazines, and Workman.
Officially participating bookstores and libraries will receive a Star Wars event kit (free of charge). The kit includes: an exclusive Star Wars Reads promotional item (25-50 per event); raffle prizes; promotional giveaways; a packet of event ideas, reproducible activity sheets and trivia; and more. The events will have the PR and marketing support of the eight participating publishers and Lucasfilm.
If your store or library would like to participate in Star Wars Reads Day on October 6, please sign up here: http://tinyurl.com/swrd2012 (http://tinyurl.com/swrd2012)
Ko o čemu, ono narod o sledeće dve trilogije smeštene u SW svet:
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/star-wars-episode-7-is-about-luke-skywalker/ (http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/star-wars-episode-7-is-about-luke-skywalker/)
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The serious
Star Trek fan in your life — even if that means
you — should know about this gorgeously designed new gift book
Star Trek Federation: The First 150 Years (http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1612184170/sfsi0c-20) by David A. Goodman, which celebrates the 150th anniversary of the founding of the United Federation of Planets.
Packed with goodies, this lavishly illustrated volume "chronicles the pivotal era leading up to Humankind's First Contact with Vulcan in 2063, the Romulan War in 2156, the creation of the Federation in 2161, and the first 150 years of the intergalactic democracy up until the year 2311″. It covers a multitude of "alien species, decisive battles...technology...field sketches, illustrations, and reproductions of historic pieces of art from across the Galaxy"...and includes even more goodies, all packaged in a pedestal display with lights and an audio introduction by Admiral Hikaru Sulu. Oh my!
From the Amazon description, product features include:
- Pedestal display featuring electronic lights and sound (13.5" x 13.5" x 4")
- Audio introduction by Admiral Hikaru Sulu
- 176-page hardcover book with four-color illustration throughout
- Envelope containing 5 removable artifacts
- Over fifty excerpts from key Federation documents and correspondence, Starfleet records, and intergalactic intelligence
Want a closer look? Check out these hi-res images (some of them exlusive to SF Signal) after the jump...
Read the rest of this entry (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2012/12/an-exclusive-look-at-star-trek-federation-the-first-150-years/#more-67023)
:shock: :-? :-D
Sources have confirmed the "Star Trek Into Darkness" filmmaker will helm the next "Star Wars" movie, the highly anticipated installment in the landmark franchise scheduled to reach theaters in 2015.
PHOTOS: 'Star Wars' at the box office (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-hc-star-wars-box-office-numbers-pictures,0,4822426.photogallery)
[Updated: 10:30 a.m. Jan. 25]: The news first broke on The Wrap website Thursday afternoon.
Abrams, who previously had denied that he would be involved with the project, is now in a position of creative control over the two most beloved franchises in the science-fiction universe: "Star Wars" and "Star Trek."
Abrams rebooted "Star Trek" for the big screen in 2009 to much acclaim and rousing boxoffice receipts, with the film collecting upwards of $385 million. His follow-up, "Star Trek Into Darkness," is due in theaters May 17.
His decision to direct a "Star Wars" film, however, throws into question his future with that Paramount franchise. Scheduling commitments most likely would preclude him from directing a potential third "Trek" movie.
"Star Wars: Episode VII" will be written by Michael Arndt, the Oscar-winning screenwriter of "Little Miss Sunshine" and "Toy Story 3."
Simon Kinberg and Lawrence Kasdan have been tapped to write "Star Wars" projects as well, but it's unclear whether their scripts will be for future episodes or for films outside the official trilogy.
Kasdan co-wrote the screenplay for the "Star Wars: Episode V — The Empire Strikes Back."
The upcoming trilogy of new films was announced Oct. 30 when the Walt Disney Co. went public with its plans to acquire Lucasfilm for $4.05 billion.
George Lucas is expected to serve as a creative consultant on the new movies.
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2013/01/24/j-j-abrams-set-to-direct-star-wars-episode-vii/#/0 (http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2013/01/24/j-j-abrams-set-to-direct-star-wars-episode-vii/#/0)
Iz dokumentarca Trekkies
Trek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkClZx-SjRE#)
Aaaw, i trekiji su ljudi :)
Quote from: zakk on 13-02-2013, 20:17:35
Aaaw, i trekiji su ljudi :)
Jesu, jesu, i te kakvi! Naime, odgledao sam i
Trekkies 2 (a verovatno znate zašto nas se taj dokumentarac dotiče), pa ću da vam ponudim nekoliko šotova iz filma. Nažalost, nisam ga našao na tjubetu, pa čak ni onaj deo od sedam minuta koji mi je bio najinteresantniji. A vi se slobodno javite ako vam je šta poznato ili ko poznat...
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U prvom planu je Relja Trajković iz Photon Tide, iza njega je mislim mlađahni Ivica Milarić
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Ok, ABN...
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Gleda desno - Draža Igoršanac, art-anima.com
Ima u nekom Emitoru i izveštaj sa TrekNSa, išla je gomila ljudi iz BG (before my time) al nemam to na kompu... :/
TREK>NS on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/43687617)
http://news.bme.com/2013/02/13/back-in-the-nineties/ (http://news.bme.com/2013/02/13/back-in-the-nineties/)
I think there are very few people who worked in a piercing or tattoo studio in the late 1990s that don't remember chatting with their coworkers at the beginning of the summer season and saying something to the effect of, "well, this is going to be the last big summer." Piercings and tattoos were so unbelievably popular that it was impossible to believe that the "fad" couldn't possibly last any longer. Almost all of us thought that one year soon we'd be remembering the nineties as "the good old days" back when mods were still popular.
I was watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine today and was reminded of those days because of a funny scene that takes place in the episode "Past Tense" (season three, episode eleven) when some of the characters time travel back to the San Francisco of 2024. One of the people who travels back is Jadzia Dax, a trill, who like all trill has characteristic leopard-like spots running down each side of her body from head to toe.
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In 2024, humans did not yet know about non-terran civilizations, so Jadzia had to come up with an excuse for her spots. The scene between her and a human she'd met that was helping her out (Christopher Brynner), was quite amusing –
*****
Christopher Brynner: You know, those are very unusual.
Jadzia Dax: Oh, you mean my tattoos?
Chris: It is amazing work! Where did you have them done? Japan?
Jadzia: How did you guess?
Chris: Well, I used to have one myself... A Maori tribal pattern — used to go all the way down my arm. I got it in highschool, back in the 90s, just like everybody else. Of course I had to have it removed. Well... you know how it is. To get the government contracts, you have to look like all the rest of the drones. So I guess that makes me a sellout.
*****
Because I've made it my mission to binge watch every Star Trek episode of every series, I've been enjoying the body modification references, both direct references like the one above, and indirect ones like all the different characters and races with tattoos — I thought about making a post cataloging it or adding it to the BME encyclopedia, but then had a bit of a reality check and realized it would be of interest to me and maybe... three other readers.
Trekeri su šmekeri. :)
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Namco Bandai has released a brand-new explosive Star Trek: The Game trailer for a game that seems like it'll be almost as good as the movie.
This latest Star Trek game trailer (titled "Salvation") showcases the co-op gameplay with Kirk and Spock following the discovery of a powerful new technology.
We get to see a few of the game's new and very alien-looking enemies, as well as different locations; the trailer also includes weapons and abilities. Our fave? The always-awesome Vulcan nerve pinch. We can never get tired of THAT. In fact, we can't wait to try it out for ourselves. (In the game, not in real life, obviously.)
The game features an original story by BAFTA (the equivalent of the Emmys for TV or the Oscars for films) Award-winning writer Marianne Krawczyk, who is working closely with Star Trek movie writers and producers Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman.
Ready for some awesome Star Trek action?
http://www.blastr.com/2013-2-13/check-out-action-packed-new-trailer-star-trek-game (http://www.blastr.com/2013-2-13/check-out-action-packed-new-trailer-star-trek-game)
Quote from: LiBeat on 14-02-2013, 08:32:54
Trekeri su šmekeri. :)
xwink2
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Star Wars Call Me Maybe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBM7i84BThE#ws)
Shatner i Hadfield
Captain Kirk Chats Up Countryman on Station (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ro4zkw-LA#ws)
Napokon neka korist i od lightsaber-a!
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t948694/#post15875880 (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t948694/#post15875880)
Posle Space Janitors-a (koja je relativno zabavna vebserija):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxuT_r9rCeA&list=SP7atuZxmT954qKicLcYtpk20SRDZaKCs2&index=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxuT_r9rCeA&list=SP7atuZxmT954qKicLcYtpk20SRDZaKCs2&index=1)
eto nama i Death Star PR-a:
Death Star PR - S1 Ep 1: Alderaan Reasons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqEFRwunJcQ#ws)
A do juče/prekjuče,
Vulcan je bio na trećem/četvrtom mestu!
QuoteThanks to Shatner's suggestion — and the ensuing support from fans and Trekkies — Vulcan is currently in the lead by a healthy margin, followed by Cerberus and Styx.
Have Trekkies taken over the voting on the naming of Pluto's new moons? (http://io9.com/5985263/have-trekkies-taken-over-the-voting-on-the-naming-of-plutos-new-moons)
(via io9)
2009 World's Championship Horse Show: William Shatner Interview (from ClubEquestrian.com) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvb-WpF2f8Q#)
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Double ass-slap!
Learn to be a Jedi (or Sith) with lightsaber lessons (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/learn-jedi-sith-lightsaber-lessons.html)
(via Giant Freakin Robot)
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Quote from: zakk on 23-02-2013, 23:25:27
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TNG EXPOsed - Part 1/5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI29wso1R2s#ws)
(samo da dodam da je najbolji deo 5/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI29wso1R2s&list=PLDA80EA981C642A2B&index=2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI29wso1R2s&list=PLDA80EA981C642A2B&index=2) )
"... Jedi mind-meld..." reče Obama
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/obamas-jedi-mind-meld-mixes-sci-fi-worlds/2013/03/01/749ca984-8291-11e2-a350-49866afab584_blog.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/obamas-jedi-mind-meld-mixes-sci-fi-worlds/2013/03/01/749ca984-8291-11e2-a350-49866afab584_blog.html)
i tviteraši odlepili:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ObamaSciFiQuotes&src=hash (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ObamaSciFiQuotes&src=hash)
Hear, hear!
ALI!! xnerd
http://civic.mit.edu/blog/petey/sorry-nerds-but-obama-was-right-about-the-jedi-meld-and-metaphysics (http://civic.mit.edu/blog/petey/sorry-nerds-but-obama-was-right-about-the-jedi-meld-and-metaphysics)
P&O za&od Carrie Fisher (http://www.palmbeachillustrated.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.details&ArticleId=2886#.UTg-_PKwcrX)
QuoteDisney is going to continue the Star Wars saga, producing movies set to hit theaters starting in 2015. Can you confirm whether you'll reprise the role of Princess Leia?
Yes.
What do you think Princess Leia is like today?
Elderly. She's in an intergalactic old folks' home [laughs].
I just think she would be just like she was before, only slower and less inclined to be up for the big battle.
via Palm Beach Illustrated
Not very long from now in a theater not very far away ...
It is a time of hope in the galaxy. In late December, Disney completed its purchase of Lucasfilm and announced that it would be making new Star Wars movies. Soon a director was found — JJ Abrams! The next episode is due in theaters in just two years. Suddenly the Saga is again full of possibilities. New Jedi! New Darths! And a new chance to return the faded franchise to its former glory. But listen up, JJ: As you try to restore order to everyone's favorite universe, you must beware—the forces of mediocrity, silliness, and CGI overkill never rest.
To help ensure your success, our band of rebels searched from Alderaan to Tatooine to find the 74 Things Every Star Wars Movie Needs.
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/ff-star-wars-is-back/ (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/ff-star-wars-is-back/)
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Inače, ovaj što sedi s ovim truperima je:
Chris Ha-Ha-Ha-Hardwick, osnivač i vođa Nerdist Inc.-a.
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Author: Michael Okuda, Denise Okuda
Hardcover: 48 pages
Publisher: Barron's Educational Series
Price: $21.99 in Canada, $18.99 in the U.S.Anyone who's followed Star Trek: The Next Generation for any period of time will surely be familiar with the names Michael and Denise Okuda.He was the show's lead graphic designer and she served in several consulting roles with TNG and other Trek incarnations. The couple have come out with a book called On Board the U.S.S. Enterprise which is a perfect introduction to the fabled NCC-1701D helmed by Captain Jean-Luc Picard.It's an oversized coffee-table book that is colourfully illustrated with photos from the show and computer-generated images to explain the workings of the Enterprise.The book starts out with a brief history of the vessel, highlights of some memorable voyages, introductions to the main characters and a section-by-section breakdown of the ship. It covers:The bridge
- There is also a variety of illustrations showing views of the ship from different angles, including some multi-page foldouts.
- The book also comes with a DVD that contains three-dimensional views of all of the ship sections listed above which you can explore with your mouse. My only gripe is that there isn't more explanatory text in these images. You can click around all you want, but you're not always sure what you're looking at.So who is this book for and why now? In the introduction, the Okudas mention they are working on a project to remaster the Next Generation episodes so I would guess this book is meant to tie into that and serve as a reference to new fans.The content is very top-level so long-time fans won't find much new in this book. It appears to be geared at younger fans who are just getting in to the show. I've always felt that Star Trek has done a poor job of cultivating a new generation of fans compared to Star Wars. George Lucas' creation has always had toys and cartoons aimed at younger audiences while Star Trek rarely did. This book would certainly be the sort of thing you would use to try to convert your own kids to Trek fandom.Sadly, neither of my kids want anything to do with Star Trek. If Dad likes it, then it can't be cool. Maybe I'll sneak in a copy of On Board the U.S.S. Enterprise on to their bookshelves and keep my fingers crossed.A review copy of the book was provided to us by Barron's.
- http://www.theendoftheuniverse.ca/ (http://www.theendoftheuniverse.ca/)
Star Wars ilustracije: da su Ratovi zvezda tinejdžerski film iz osamdesetih #01 (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-imagined-80s-teen-movie.html)
Star Wars ilustracije: da su Ratovi zvezda tinejdžerski film iz osamdesetih #02 (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-imagined-80s-teen-movie-sequel.html)
via Giant Freakin Robot
Trekeri svih zemalja, ujedinite se! (http://www.allthingstrek.com/)
aka: All Things Trek
Uništenje Zvezde smrti je bio insajderski posao!
http://youtu.be/2dvv-Yib1Xg (http://youtu.be/2dvv-Yib1Xg)
oooooooohhhh!!! xptit
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Publication Date: March 18, 2013 Voyage through a complete illustrated tour of the Star Trek™ Galaxy and explore the bridge of the U.S.S. Enterprise™, Borg™ technology, The Dominion War, The Q Continuum and much more in Star Trek: The Visual Dictionary. Featuring the celebrated as well as infamous characters, aliens, starships, and technology, this stunning hardcover tome from DK shows the Star Trek Universe as you have never seen it before. Show more (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Dictionary-DK-Publishing/dp/146540337X/ref=sr_1_898?s=books&ie=UTF8&tag=upcoming00-20&qid=1363606464&sr=1-898#) Show less (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Dictionary-DK-Publishing/dp/146540337X/ref=sr_1_898?s=books&ie=UTF8&tag=upcoming00-20&qid=1363606464&sr=1-898#)
Jedi Weddings May Become Legal In Scotland (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/jedi-wedding_n_2909293.html)
via Huffington Post
Trekerski podkast-intervju s Patrick Hester-om (http://www.allthingstrek.com/?p=546)
via All things Trek
Kako su nastali "Space Seed" i Star Trek II (http://io9.com/inside-secrets-of-the-making-of-star-trek-ii-wrath-of-457250013)
via io9QuoteOnce Montalban was lined up, they decided the character would be named Sabahl Khan Noonien, which is the name he still has in James Blish's book adaptation. Why the name Noonien? Gene Roddenberry had a Chinese friend in the 1940s, named Noonien Wang, whom he'd lost touch with. He hoped that one day this episode would air in China, and Wang would see "Noonien" and Roddenberry's name, and get in touch. Roddenberry was still trying to reach his friend in the late 1980s, which is why Data's creator is Noonien Soong.
nadam se da nije gej :evil:
Logo Zvezdane flote nad Londonom (http://trekmovie.com/2013/03/23/starfleet-logo-flies-above-london-for-earth-hour/)
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The R2-D2 Bra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ZyKkxWhl0#)
e vala su mogli da nadju nekog zenskog fana da isproba ovaj brus uzivo, ovako izgleda bas geekovsko-pacenicki kad se isprobava na lutki :(
Jedino muški fanovi Star Warsa imaju tolike sise.
Quote from: Nightflier on 30-03-2013, 12:49:12
Jedino muški fanovi Star Warsa imaju tolike sise.
Dobar! xrofl xrofl xrofl
e da znak sagite ima opciju "like" sad bi je dobio iz momenta :)
:)
If Star Wars Was Real (http://www.nirahlee.com/iswwr/index.php)
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Star Trek The Video Game Funny Trailer with William Shatner ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09VxIwmL4FU#ws)
Video: Darth Vader, stormtroopers wage war against drugs in Ukraine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgr7D73uOg#ws)
Death Star Destroys Enterprise (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KRc7fn434Y#ws)
May the fourth be with you! (http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/what-does-may-the-fourth-mean-to-you)
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Harrison Ford Won't Answer Star Wars Questions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0vs9gYydo#ws)
DVE Star Wars konvencije u maju:
DAN RATOVA ZVEZDA u KC GRADU
https://www.facebook.com/events/575186679171924/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/575186679171924/)
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DAN RATOVA ZVEZDA - CEO DAN / CELU NOĆ
KULTURNI CENTAR GRAD - SUBOTA 11 / 05 / '13
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DAN RATOVA ZVEZDA u Srbiji je osmišljen da bude ultimativno fan iskustvo fokusirano na galaksiju daleko, daleko, daleko... (čuveni početak SW filmova - long time ago in a galaxy far far away...). Poenta ovakve, a samim tim i naše manifestacije je da u Beogradu okupi što veći broj ljubitelje Ratova Zvezda svih uzrasta da bi proslavili ovaj fenomen pop-kulture. Bilo da je u pitanju mladi ljubitelj Star Wars: The Clone Wars ili stariji okoreli nostalgičar za originalnom triologijom Ratova Zvezda ili čitalac SW knjiga, online gamer, kolekcionar figura i drugog aksesoara ili jednostavno radoznali posetilac - imaćemo za svakog ponešto na ovoj manifestaciji.
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VIŠE INFORMACIJA I SATNICE DEŠAVANJA - USKORO ! ! !
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http://www.dominomagazin.com/article/20592/film/dan-ratova-zvezda-u-beogradu (http://www.dominomagazin.com/article/20592/film/dan-ratova-zvezda-u-beogradu)
i nastavak prošlih SW konvencija:
STAR CON 2013
https://www.facebook.com/events/347589775343178/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/347589775343178/)
Najnovija konvencija ljubitelja popularne kulture - STAR CON!
Dva dana nezaboravne zabave!
STAR CON počinje u subotu, 25. maja 2013, od 12 do 19 časova, a završava se u nedelju 26. maja 2013, od 12 do 19 časova i obuhvata sledeće sadržaje:
- Velika izložba igračaka, figura i kolekcionarskih predmeta iz ličnih kolekcija fanova!
- Multi-medijalne prezentacije tri zastupljene franšize!
- Polaznici škole crtanja stripa i ilustracije "Đorđe Lobačev" koji će za vas crtati vaše omiljene likove!
- Nezaobilazna berza igačaka na kojoj možete kupiti svoju omiljenu igračku iz detinjstva, ili doneti svoje za razmenu!
- Potpuno slobodan cosplay - dođite maskirani u svog omiljenog lika iz tri franšize koje će biti predstavljene na STAR CON-u!
Ove godine predstavljamo vam tri najpoznatije franšize koje vole kako deca, tako i odrasli:
STAR WARS - Priča o "Zvezdanim ratovima" koja je dotakla srca generacija fanova! Šest filmova, tri crtane serije, neke od najboljih video-igara, kao i igračke, figure, i sakupljački predmeti čiji broj raste iz godine u godinu! Videćete kolekcije igračaka i figura i imaćete priliku da čujete ukratko kako se razvijala priča duga 40 godina! Ta priča se nastavlja...
MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE - Najpopularnija i najprodavanija linija igračaka svih vremena! Priča o Hi-Menu, najmoćnijem čoveku u svemiru i njegovim saveznicima "Gospodarima svemira" u borbi protiv zla na dalekoj planeti Eterniji! Videćete tri najveće linije ove franšize koju volimo već punih 30 godina, a članovi zvaničnog kluba ljubitelja Mastersa ispričaće vam njen kratak istorijat! Popularni Mastersi su ponovo među nama...
TRANSFORMERS - Druga omiljena linija igračaka i svakako najmnogobrojnija! Ljubitelji, kolekcionari i vrsni poznavaoci "Transformersa" iz zvaničnog kluba ljubitelja "TransFans Srbija" ispričaće vam sve što vas zanima o igračkama, crtanim filmovima, video-igrama, stripovima, filmovima! Pogledajte dobro oko sebe - možda su ovi roboti pod maskom već među nama...
Deco, dođite da vidite čime su se vaši roditelji igrali kao mali! Roditelji, dođite da se podsetite omiljenih igračaka!
Ako mislite da mi je jasna logika, nije.
25. maj je zvaničan datum, a 4. maj je zgodan datum zbog "May the Fourth be with you".
Pa što onda ne napraviše četvrtog -_-
A 14. je Lukasov rođendan.
A 25. je Star Wars izašao u bioskopima u americi.
U principu, nebitno, za taj KC grad smo u Zagrebu na Sferakonu...
:-D
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Release date: April 23, 2013 Master the harsh, guttural language of Klingon with this indispensable audio phrasebook. This amusing and enlightening primer on ill-tempered and proud Klingon culture uses a built-in sound module to teach readers an array of crucial compliments ("You bludgeon divinely."), toasts ("Today is a good day to die"), and insults ("Your mother has a smooth forehead") as well as phrases used commonly in intergalactic travel ("Passport? My fist is my passport!"), theatergoing ("Two for Romulan and Juliet"), and more. Illustrated scenarios set the scene and offer additional useful phrases, making How to Speak Klingon an essential guide for any Star Trek® fan.
HIchop! - Klingon Kiss Me :mrgreen:
HIchop! - Klingon Kiss Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2bjc6U0tjI#ws)
Star Wars Parody - Paw Warz - Not the Toiz you're looking for - Petody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdFI95Sbnnc#ws)
Stimpank AT-AT (http://io9.com/steam-powered-at-at-is-the-most-romantic-vehicle-in-the-483841363)
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Empire's Anti-May The 4th Holiday Star Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRbMFLrsO5w#ws)
Star Kon 2013 koji je trebalo da bude 25. maja u SKCu je
OTKAZAN, navodno zbog ovoga u KC gradu :roll:
Zato se u Šumicama održava izložba Transformes i Masters of the Universe figura
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https://www.facebook.com/events/132171910301116/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/132171910301116/)
Elem, zato se SW dan u KC gradu zahuktava:
EDGE - (B)RATOVI ZVEZDA produced by JAZZABELLA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2zJV2OUqo0#ws)
QuoteDAN RATOVA ZVEZDA u Srbiji je osmišljen da bude ultimativno fan iskustvo fokusirano na galaksiju daleko, daleko, daleko... (čuveni početak SW filmova - long time ago in a galaxy far far away...)
Manifestacija počinje tačno u podne 11. maja kada će vrata posetiocima otvoriti Darth Vader, Stormtrooper, Darth Maul, Chewbacca, Boba Fett i Tusken Raider.
Posetioci će moći da uživaju u izložbi kolekcionarskih SW predmeta, prodajnoj izložbi majica, nakita i sl. dok će se uporedo na spratu iznad dešavati vrlo zanimljiva SW predavanja.
Ceo dan će se smenjivati plejada DJ-eva sa žanrovski raznovrsnom muzikom da bi od 20h počeo maskenbal. Glavna nagrada za najbolju masku biće replika lightsaber-a.
Od 22h pa sve do ranih jutarnjih časova za muziku i raspoloženje biće odgovorni DJ Kneejah, DJ Necone, DJ Rebel B, DJ Bitz & Edge MC, DJ Miloš Vujović i specijalni gosti iz Slovenije DJ Sani i DJ Riba.
Zachary Quinto vs. Leonard Nimoy: "The Challenge" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs#ws)
The U.S.S. ENTERPRISE in Space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJcIjOMGIU#ws)
Minići Star Trek TOS-a (http://www.vintag.es/2013/05/mini-skirts-in-star-trek-1966.html)
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Ove ja zovem pravim trekerima:
http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes/#.UZNZTUouC5J (http://www.startrekcontinues.com/episodes/#.UZNZTUouC5J)
A vinjete im? TOS flešbek na kubu!
(mada su Spoka promašili)
Star Trek: The Middle School Musical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIkgcWtK_rQ#ws)
NASA Connects Space Station and "Star Trek Into Darkness" Crews in a Google+ Hangout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7_BZe6cGoI#ws)
:lol:
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Star Wars Filibuster - Animation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hlpimFhAY#ws)
Sva sreća pa je Dizni kupio Star Wars franšizu
http://www.youtube.com/embed/0kc7y2R_SSc?start=322&end=428 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/0kc7y2R_SSc?start=322&end=428)
Keith Martin: Glavni likovi Star Wars-a, zapravo su R2-D2 i Čubaka (http://km-515.livejournal.com/746.html)
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It's Star Trek vs. Star Wars in the skies over San Francisco!
Death Star Destroys Enterprise (Special Edition) - IGN Original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69RuwsGv_I#ws)
Nemoj da ti dođem tamo!
ovo je mozda malko indirektno ali ipak :lol: !
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/astronaut-hero-buzz-aldrin-is-planning-his-own-sci-fi-tv-sho (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/astronaut-hero-buzz-aldrin-is-planning-his-own-sci-fi-tv-sho)
Buzz Aldrin is still reaching for the stars.
The 83-year old Apollo 11 astronaut, who in 1969 became the second man to walk on the moon right after Neil Armstrong made that "one giant leap for mankind," has long been that mission's public face — remember those guest turns on 30 Rock and Dancing With the Stars? — and now, he's planning his very own series.
Aldrin is working to adapt his 1996 sci-fi novel, Encounter with Tiber, into a highbrow television drama (which will just be called Tiber). The novel, co-written with the author John Barnes, tells of a future in which humans discover that earth had once been visited by an advanced species of aliens. On a mission to Alpha Centauri, the aliens' home planet, a scientist works to piece together the evidence left behind by the failed extraterrestrial visitors.
Though the show is in the early development stages, with no cast attached, Aldrin is already making big promises about it.
"I believe that it will be better than Star Trek or Star Wars because it is more realistic, it deals with real kind of beings a long time ago that had realistic travel capabilities and they weren't shooting people up or anything," he offered. "It is genuine progression of exploration to the point where we are now, in our thinking. And [in the story] we think about getting that new information that the fictitious aliens left that we found and gave us the knowledge to travel from our sun to nearby stars... I think what we are doing will progressively be a lot more realistic."
Not that he's a hater; Aldrin was wearing a Star Wars-themed tie to the premiere of Will Smith's new film After Earth Wednesday. And when it came time to answer one of society's biggest questions — whether he preferred Star Wars or Star Trek, he came down firmly on the side of Captain Kirk, thanks in large part to the USS Enterprise's command structure.
"Well I think Star Trek was a little bit better organized for spacecraft operations," Aldrin explained. "Star Wars was more of a conflict of different people in space."
Michael Dorn na Phoenix ComiCon-u 2013. (http://www.youtube.com/embed/pr_6olSjq5A?start=1444&end=1709)
Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song [ALTERNATE OFFICIAL VIDEO] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULOjT9GYdQ#ws)
Science Fiction's Debt to the Original Star Trek II With J.J. Abrams' first Star Trek sequel being celebrated all over the place, it's worth looking back at the original Star Trek II. Why? Well, everyone loves it now, but would you believe the hassles it went through just to see the light of day? Wrath of Khan is not only a seminal Star Trek, it's the quintessential science fiction film. Let's consider what makes it such a powerful addition to Star Trek and to the sci-fi genre.
As a film, Khan went through many hoops with both the producers at Paramount, fans and Gene Roddenberry himself before the cameras started rolling. Conflicts between Paramount and Roddenberry over story and script led to a new producer being hired, one that hadn't even seen the original TV show. Fans knew that Spock was to be killed due to a leaked script and public outcry overshadowed the development process ... Leonard Nimoy even received death threats! Multiple scripts were created and rejected, with the final script being written by Nicholas Meyer in just 12 days to meet studio demands.
Nobody thinks about these things now. They just say call Wrath of Khan on of the best Star Trek movies. Let that be a lesson to us, kids: People will forgive almost any mistake as long as you succeed. For the record now, here are the reasons I think sci-fi owes a tremendous debt to Star Trek II:
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/06/guest-post-daniel-haight-on-science-fictions-debt-to-the-original-star-trek-ii/#more-78253 (http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/06/guest-post-daniel-haight-on-science-fictions-debt-to-the-original-star-trek-ii/#more-78253)
Star Trek Continues E01 "Pilgrim of Eternity" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-ziTBAkbQ#)
a što ne bismo bili Galakticari ili SGeovci? ili Dr Huuovci.... ja sam prije ovo troje od navedenih gore... ST i SW kao fan SF jako poštujem i uvijek mogu pogledati.... lažem... mogu pogledati ST DS9 uvijek, i ST Voyager, Next Generarion nikako jer smara...
In 1991, Your Family Could Make Its Own Star Trek Episode
Here's one from the vaults: In the early '90s, Universal Studios had the absolute genius idea to partner with Paramount Pictures to bring a green-screen experience to its Orlando, Florida theme park, in which Trekkies of all shapes and sizes could dress up, act out, and be inserted into a pre-filmed, Star Tours (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Tours)-esque episode of The Original Series.
The episode's plot: A group of dopey Starfleet "graduates" are inexplicably allowed to helm the entire starship Enterprise for a "training mission" that's suddenly interrupted by a warbird full of (very poorly acted) Klingons; to end the confrontation, the "acting captain" just up and beams aboard the vessel with a photon detonator (a grenade, basically). Reliably, McCoy seems quite bored by the whole escapade.
The whole 10-minute experience was called "Star Trek Adventure," and judging by this VHS-tape video dug up by Reddit user ouaoausd (http://www.reddit.com/user/ouaoausd) – and another even better one, below, that user cirrus42 (http://www.reddit.com/user/cirrus42) found to corroborate its existence – it was the best thing ever. Oh god, the mullets. And Gene Roddenberry's introduction. And Sulu and Uhura's impeccable side-eye. So. Good.
So, when is this coming back?
http://youtu.be/vKNSWUzC-uc (http://youtu.be/vKNSWUzC-uc)
Malouff Star Trek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJthI8KwRNQ#)