ovog trena je ovaj film postao VRLO zanimljiv, jer:
Robert Downey Jr. is aboard to play the titular coke-craving big brain of Baker Street in Guy Ritchie's "Sherlock Holmes" over at Warner Bros.
Ritchie has been polishing the project's script by Tony Peckham ("Don't Say A Word").
A ako se i Guy razvede uskoro od Madonne,bice dvostruko intersantan. :!:
Quote from: "Shozo Hirono"A ako se i Guy razvede uskoro od Madonne,bice dvostruko intersantan. :!:
šta, ne voliš oženjen muškarce? :shock:
madona moze da bude misiz hadson
Can You Deduce Who Plays John Watson Opposite Robert Downey Jr. in Guy Ritchie's SHERLOCK HOLMES??
I am – Hercules!!
Jude Law ("The Holiday," "Sleuth") will play Dr. John Watson to Robert Downey's titular sleuth in Warner Bros.' "Sherlock Holmes."
The Warner project, directed by Guy Ritchie ("Snatch," "RockNRolla"), is not to be confused with Judd Apatow's untitled project at Sony, which stars Sacha Baron Cohen and Will Ferrell as Holmes and Watson.
Find all of Variety's story on the matter here.
Jude Law in talks for 'Sherlock'
Actor may join Downey Jr. in Ritchie's drama
By MICHAEL FLEMING
Jude Law is negotiating to join Robert Downey Jr. in "Sherlock Holmes," the drama that Guy Ritchie will direct for Warner Bros. and Village Roadshow Pictures.
Law is expected to close a deal shortly to play Watson, the super-sleuth's sidekick.
Joel Silver, Lionel Wigram, Susan Downey and Dan Lin are producing. Production begins early next month in London.
The film will incorporate the classic tales written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, as well as the comic book "Sherlock Holmes." Studio is still casting some of the principal roles, including the villain, Blackwood.
Law recently completed a role in the Terry Gilliam-directed "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus," and stars with Forest Whitaker in the Miguel Sapochnik-directed Universal drama "Repossession Mambo."
Law is repped by Endeavor.
to je strašno...nakon plummera i bretta na tv-u koji je ruku na srce sišao sa pagetovih naslovnica ništa drugo ne može biti ni blizu...ovo niti ne pokušava biti ozboljno dapače vrlo vjerojatno biti će gore i od hallmarkovih "holmesa" guy ritchie osim braka s madonnom i nije režirao išta pomena vrijedno....a naravno kandidat za watsona je majstor iz očajnog remakea sleutha - jude law...
za ozbiljnost ne znam, a za ricija se slazem. glumackom podelom sam do sada zadovoljan, bice interesantno videti ko ce glumiti blekvuda. verovatno ce oko daunija napraviti all-english cast.
nadam se da nece miksovati kanon (il samo nameravaju da valjaju knjige uz film + strip), kad su vec izmislili negativca.
dakle, nova prica...kao recimo u prosecnom, ali dovoljno interesantnom sh & the case of silk stocking sa everetom.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061795/ :D
&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LboZwQVLQbw
"james bond in 1891"
nego, nemam pojma:
Robert Downey Jr.'s Bad-Ass Sherlock Holmes
Robert Downey Jr. chats about his role as Sherlock Holmes in Guy Ritchie's upcoming movie.
By Matt Mueller
At the Tropic Thunder junket, Robert Downey Jr. strolled into a Four Seasons hotel suite dressed in wide-striped khaki trousers and a green army jacket with the name "Osiris" sewn into one of the pockets, the name of his character in Thunder. But in between the Thunder-thumping, Downey Jr. was happy to chat about his upcoming gig playing Sherlock Holmes in Guy Ritchie's adaptation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's classic sleuth. The Brit director has rewritten the script for Warner Bros.' reboot, which is inspired as much by Lionel Wigram's eponymous comic book as it is by Doyle's tomes; Holmes knocks the Victorian stuffiness out of the tale to buff up Holmes as a bare-knuckle boxer and martial-arts expert. Here's what Hollywood's hottest actor has to say about donning Sherlock's cap.
When do you start shooting?
October 6. Going over to England.
Have you had many meetings with Guy Ritchie?
We've definitely got to spend some time together, and I love his take on it. We're both martial arts enthusiasts and historically, in the real origin stories of Sherlock Holmes, he's kind of a bad-ass and a bare-knuckle boxer and studies the rare art of baritsu [fictional martial art created by Doyle for the final Holmes story, 1901's The Adventure Of The Empty House (nije poslednja no je prva u povratku)]. If you look baritsu up, they can't even really tell you what it is (sistem japanskog rvanja, a dojl je mozda mislio na stvarnu vestinu - bartitsu), so it gives us a lot of leeway.
What drew you to this take on Holmes?
I love the idea of doing a period piece without trying to be too stylized. I loved 300, but I think that that's been capitalized on in other films like that, so I like the idea of doing a period piece where you don't modernize it, you just realize how modern it was. In 1891, it was incredibly modern. And Sherlock Holmes is such a great character to be able to play.
How's the English accent coming?
It hasn't come to me yet. I've done R.P. [a.k.a. received pronunciation, a.k.a. The Queen's English] before in Chaplin and Restoration, but I don't want to just do that. I feel like Sherlock Holmes is out there somewhere, and I got my little ham radio on [makes like he's trying to tune in a radio station] to find his frequency, but I've got nothing yet.
So how does it feel being back on top of Hollywood?
Yeah, I'm so on top of it, I'm in the missionary position. I've been pretty much in every angle corresponding to Hollywood, and it's just great, you know? It's great, and it's a lot of work, and it's anxiety-provoking. Because be careful what you wish for — here I am, promoting a movie while my heart says I should not be promoting Tropic Thunder at all because I need to have my ham radio going for Sherlock Holmes. It's mandatory that I get this inspiration, and what if I miss that train? I'll be depriving the moviegoing public of what it is that I promise them I'll be able to do, which is, more often than not, deliver.
Posle Džeremi Breta trebala je da se uvede zakonska zabrana na nove ekranizacije šerloka Holmsa.
ma dobro, jeste da smo svi navikli na dotichnog, ali meni je robert downey jr, jedan od omiljenih glumaca. bash me zanima kakav ce to biti SH. drugaciji od ostalih sigurno, ali pozitivno ili negativno...?
Po ovome što se piše deluje kao da bi u pravim rukama ovo mogao da bude filmski analog Murove Lige Izvanrednih Džentlmena: akcionizovana, dodatno palpizovana verzija klasika. E, sad, da li su ruke koje grle madonu baš prave ruke, ne znam...
dakle trebamo da dobijemo Šerloka koji je hip and cool....
Šerlok je anti-noir, i ovo je pokušaj infiltracije.
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"Po ovome što se piše deluje kao da bi u pravim rukama ovo mogao da bude filmski analog Murove Lige Izvanrednih Džentlmena: akcionizovana, dodatno palpizovana verzija klasika. E, sad, da li su ruke koje grle madonu baš prave ruke, ne znam...
Ja volem Ricija i ako vec mora da se pravi palpizovana verzija klasika bolje da on to radi nego neko drugi ali sam ekstremno skeptican prema uzimanju Amera za igranje kvintesencijalnog engleskog lika (ko je rekao Kevin Kostner?).
cudo da se toga nije pre setio tim barton pa da džoni dep igra šerloka, a helen bonam karter npr votsona.
neka snimaju šta oćeju i neka glumi ko oće, džeremi bret JE šerlok.
u svakom slučaju bolje r.dauni nego npr nikolas kejdž.
dakle, blekvud je mark strong (sunshine negativac xflowy ) a ubacili su i adlerovu (rachel mcadams).
nego, jel gledo neko ovo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Flnlb5ITNQ
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http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/10/10/robert-downey-jr-as-sherlock-holmes-first-pictures/
Više liči na Čarlija Čaplina nego na Šerloka Holmsa :x
Možda se sprema za nastavak Čaplina? Chaplin of the Living Dead!
U međuvremenu:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/sep/05/thriller
Peter Bradshaw
That title of Mr Guy Ritchie's new featcha. Means geeza. Or mobsta. Top bruisa. In his London manna. Sad to say, the film's a shocka. A right depressa. Bit of a dispirita. For this directa, it ain't exactly a departcha. And the title means as well as everything else Mr Ritchie's become a dodgy spella. What a dismaying orthographical decline since his last pictcha. Which we must now think of as Revolva. This was influenced by the belief system known as Kabbala. Rememba? Espoused by his spouse, whose name may originally have been spelt "Madonner".
Howeva. This one does not have Danny Dya. That really would have been a killa. But it has got Tom Wilkinson (what a troopa), Gerard Butla and many an acta who learned to speak cockney at Rada.
It's got Thandie Newton, playing someone name-a Stella. She's just a stunna in designa clobba. And for the filmgoa who recalls her in Flirting, this is a bit of a choka. (I think she deserves betta.) And it's got Toby Kebbell, who once played the managa of that northern pop whingea who just felt sadda and sadda and finally came a fatal and tragically self-inflicted croppa.
All of these thesps pretend to be well harda than anyone else, in scenes that get shorta and shorta, accompanied by a well irritating mockney voiceova. Each playa's got his shoota. Each of them gets a silly monika, like "One Two" or "Mumbles". Sometimes they wear hats or caps - but a titfa is no substitute for a propa characta. There's a violent Russian monsta who appears to be a football club proprieta, which may trigga anga in a certain real life fella from Russia who will holla for his lawya. (I've seen subtla.) Guy Ritchie, who is also the writa, moreova has someone saying that London property prices are going to go up and up for eva and eva, which isn't exactly cleva, given the current financial weatha.
As so often in the oeuvra of the film's creata, each cipha sounds like he's a Groucho Club memba, a haunta of that exclusive London booza which contains many a bourgwa meeja wanka who thinks he's a West Ham supporta after a night on the powda. I mean, Mr Ritchie: this genra: it's ova. I mean, doing yet anotha stinka of a drama about the mee-lee-a of the ersatz London gangsta? You're taking the piss - intcha?
:D
Evo ga trejler koji, što se mene tiče, izgleda apsolutno grozno i više liči na neki nastavak Van Helsinga: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810045845/video/13526202 (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810045845/video/13526202)
Pa koloritniji je od Van Helsinga... koji mi se dopao. Ne izgleda tako loše, može biti zabavno uprkos svom ovom skakanju... i akanju?
James Bond light feat. Angels and Demons light ; tajming teško da je slučajan. A snima ga čovek koji je ko zna koliko puta za redom snimio Dve čađave dvocevke :)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/2009/08/17/brad-pitt-to-star-as-sherlock-holmes-arch-enemy-in-guy-ritchie-film-115875-21601718/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/2009/08/17/brad-pitt-to-star-as-sherlock-holmes-arch-enemy-in-guy-ritchie-film-115875-21601718/)
Brad Pitt to star as Sherlock Holmes' arch-enemy in Guy Ritchie film
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By 3am 17/08/2009
Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt (Pic:RexFeatures)
When you're making a movie about Sherlock Holmes, it seems elementary to include the detective's arch enemy – unless you are Guy Ritchie, of course.
Madonna's ex-hubby got in a right pickle with movie execs when they clapped eyes on the rough cut of his latest film... and felt like re-titling it the Mystery of the Missing Moriarty.
They ordered the director to reinstate the great Holmes' evil nemesis, pronto.
But what could have been a huge disaster for Guy, 40, has actually turned out incredibly well – his film now boasts Brad Pitt!
Desperate for help, Guy phoned his old mucker Brad, who had starred in his gangster flick Snatch. Fortunately, Brad, 45, had a couple of days free in his busy schedule to pop over to Blighty to play the evil criminal mastermind.
Anxious studio execs have already put the film's release date back until after Christmas. Now they are just praying Brad will be available long enough to shoot all his scenes in one run, to avoid any further delays.
Filming with Brad is due to start this week in London and on location at Cliveden House – the venue beside the Thames at Berkshire is the backdrop for Moriarty's home.
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A source on the set tells us: "It's a huge coup to have Brad joining the cast.
"He has worked for Guy before and said if he could, he would do anything to help out.
"It was an oversight in the film not to make a bigger deal about Moriarty. He is mentioned as Holmes' arch enemy, but the bosses wanted Guy to make more of him. Jude Law (who plays Dr Watson) and Robert Downey Jr (Holmes) have already shot their scenes.
"But now that 10 extra days have been added to shoot the new ones, they may be called back for a day or two.
"Brad is expected to be filming all over London. Cliveden House has been earmarked as a location for Moriarty's home. There will be scenes shot at Royal Victoria Dock, Pontoon Docks, Pinewood and Chatham Docks in Kent. And they will be using clips around City of London to set the scene.
"It's going to be a full-on couple of days, but now the release date has been pushed back they might just do it in time."
And with Brad on board, we deduce that Guy could have a hit on his hands...
...prvi plakat,a film u srpskim bioskopima od 7. januara...
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Tr@shy fun...
Guy Ritchie's film, Sherlock Holmes, is released
on Boxing Day, just a week after James
Cameron's much-anticipated Avatar.
Ritchie was spotted at the IMAX preview of
Avatar with his producer Joel Silver.
They were obviously keeping tabs
on the competition. Ritchie's verdict?
"Well, nothing to worry about here, then".
Sadly, as it was dark, we weren't able to
see whether the remark was said with
any seriousness.
Quote from: Alex on 23-09-2008, 01:53:23
Posle Džeremi Breta trebala je da se uvede zakonska zabrana na nove ekranizacije šerloka Holmsa.
Potpisujem
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-09-2008, 10:57:39
E, sad, da li su ruke koje grle madonu baš prave ruke, ne znam...
Znaš, znaš, samo se praviš.
Quote from: Alex on 23-09-2008, 01:53:23Posle Bazila Retbouna trebala je da se uvede zakonska zabrana na nove ekranizacije šerloka Holmsa.
Ispravio sam samo jednu malu greshchicu u ovoj izjavi.
Sherlock Holmes
By TODD MCCARTHY
A Warner Bros. release presented in association with Village Roadshow Pictures of a Silver Pictures and Wigram production. Produced by Joel Silver, Lionel Wigram, Susan Downey, Dan Lin. Executive producers, Michael Tadross, Bruce Berman. Co-producer, Steve Clark-Hall. Directed by Guy Ritchie. Screenplay, Michael Robert Johnson, Anthony Peckham, Simon Kinberg; screen story, Lionel Wigram, Johnson; Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson created by Arthur Conan Doyle.
Sherlock Holmes - Robert Downey Jr.
Dr. John Watson - Jude Law
Irene Adler - Rachel McAdams
Lord Blackwood - Mark Strong
Inspector Lestrade - Eddie Marsan
Mary Morstan - Kelly Reilly
Sir Thomas Rotheram - James Fox
Lord Coward - Hans Matheson
Mrs. Hudson - Geraldine James
If you can get over the idea of Sherlock Holmes as an action hero -- and if, indeed, you want to -- then there is something to enjoy about this flagrant makeover of fiction's first modern detective into a man of brawn as much as brain. To say that this is not grandpapa's Sherlock Holmes will be either irrelevent or a plus for most of the intended audience, who know the iconic Victorian/Edwardian-era sleuth by reputation if at all. A good number of Robert Downey Jr.'s "Iron Man" fans will likely follow him here, as he turns the venerable deerstalker-capped and becaped figure into a gym-toned, half-deranged Holmes unlike any seen before. Worldwide prospects look potent.
Memorably played 14 times by Basil Rathbone through the '40s, Holmes has been seen only intermittently onscreen since then, notably in Billy Wilder's inspired but tragically truncated 1970 "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes," as well as in "The Seven-Per-Cent Solution" in 1976, "Young Sherlock Holmes" in 1985 and, most correctly, impersonated by Peter O'Toole several times on British television in the '80s.
Theoretically, Arthur Conan Doyle's genius of Baker Street is as open to reinvention and reinterpretation as any character, so there is a measure of amusement to be had in observing the contortions producer Joel Silver, director Guy Ritchie and screenwriters Michael Robert Johnson, Anthony Peckham ("Invictus") and Simon Kinberg ("Mr. and Mrs. Smith") have gone through to refit the character to the presumed requirements of the mass international audience.
Their choice was to transform the historically slim, reclusive, intellectual eccentric into an evident manic depressive whose idea of recreation is to slum in what looks like an East End precursor of the fight club. Such Holmes purists as may remain will blanch, but young audiences, particularly males, will likely swill the topped-out serving of sweaty masculinity, flexing muscle, imaginative violence, unusual weaponry, impudent banter and ballsy effrontery.
Although Downey's recent ascent to action-blockbuster topliner defines the nature of this new Holmes, the thesp's essential identity as a resourceful and vigorous character actor asserts itself up to a point. Distractingly, for the time period, he sports a wild-haired, stubbled look that makes him resemble Al Pacino's kid brother, and there are times when his well-accented Britspeak reaches such basso depths that his dialogue can't be fully understood. But his keen eyes, quick tongue and edgy combustibility do lend credence to a man who's able to see, anticipate and comprehend things others can't -- which, in this case, includes a slow-motion compendium of the bodily harm that awaits his opponent at fisticuffs.
Once past the nonsensically overloaded martial-artsy opening stretch, a worthy opponent to Holmes announces himself in the person of Lord Blackwood (the ever-impressive Mark Strong). Condemned to die for the murder of several women, this self-possessed practitioner of black magic ominously warns that, "Death is only the beginning," as he is led to the hangman's noose, after which he is duly pronounced dead by none other than Holmes' sometimes partner and chronicler, Dr. Watson, now transformed into a dashing pretty boy by Jude Law.
Unfortunately for Holmes, Watson and the other citizens of London, Blackwood shortly resurrects himself and undertakes to establish his New Order, with part of the plan being Britain's reconquest of that former colony across the Atlantic. Blackwood's organization, a Masonic-like cult with members in high places, also prefigures fascist iconography in terms of greatcoat design, hair stylings and expressive scowling, so at least sartorially, its members have a distinct edge on the disheveled Holmes.
In addition to taking on men twice his weight in hand-to-hand combat, Holmes diverts himself by undermining Watson's relationship with his fiancee (Kelly Reilly) and coping with the return of Irene Adler (Rachel McAdams), a master criminal who has twice bested Holmes in the past and whose personal intentions with him are far from honorable. Curiously, the one area of traditional Holmesiana the script doesn't really transgress is his lack of romantic attachment. Some backstory and offscreen shenanigans with Irene are suggested, but there remains a reticence to doing anything dramatically interesting with this woman, who is not very well integrated into the rest of the story, a shortcoming the normally resourceful McAdams is unable to do much about.
Action scenes are devised to accentuate aspects of turn-of-the-century industrial London, ruffians of notably indestructible stature (particularly a scar-faced giant who just keeps on coming) and deaths of a diabolically creative nature that only the scientifically adept Blackwood could concoct and the encyclopedically knowledgeable Holmes could analyze. After a well-prepared dramatic climax in Parliament, a putative action exclamation point feels hokey and too CGI-dominated.
Olde London town probably hasn't looked this filthy onscreen since David Lynch's "The Elephant Man" and every frame has been crammed with visual stimulation thanks to Sarah Greenwood's detailed production design, Philippe Rousselot's gritty lensing and Jenny Beavan's determinedly creative costume design. Ritchie has never worked on a scale anything approaching this before and, while some of the directorial affectations are distracting, he keeps the action humming.
Still, the single most important craft contribution is Hans Zimmer's score. Overbearing in the opening scene and opportunistic in its lift of a key melodic phrase from Ennio Morricone's "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" soundtrack, it soon settles in to provide not only narrative propulsion, but enormously helpful mood colorings. The orchestrations are particularly fresh, with bracing use of the zither and other unusual instruments introducing surprising textures throughout.
Camera (Technicolor), Philippe Rousselot; editor, James Herbert; music, Hans Zimmer; production designer, Sarah Greenwood; supervising art director, Niall Moroney; art directors, James Foster, Nick Gottschalk, Matt Gray; set decorator, Katie Spencer; costume designer, Jenny Beavan; sound (Dolby Digital/SDDS/DTS), Chris Munro; supervising sound editor, James Mather; sound designer, Michael Fentum; re-recording mixers, Ron Bartlett, D.M. Hemphill; visual effects supervisor, Chas Jarrett; visual effects, Double Negative, Framestore, Prologue Films; special effects supervisor, Mark Holt; stunt coordinators, Franklin Henson, Frank Ferrara; fight coordinator, Richard R. Ryan; associate producers, Lauren Meek, Peter Eskelsen; assistant director, Max Keene; second unit director, Paul Jennings; second unit camera, Alan Stewart; casting, Reg Poerscout-Edgerton. Reviewed at Warner Bros. Studios, Burbank, Dec. 3, 2009. MPAA Rating: MPAA Rating: PG-13. Running time: 128 MIN.
wow, još jedan film za koji nisam bio siguran da ću imati živaca da mu uopšte pružim šansu da me šamara svojim mas-market šenaninganima; sudeći po ovom rivjuu, možda ipak hoću.
Čim je uključen Džejms Herbert, pa taman i u svojstvu montažera, ja sam kupljen.
Dir: Guy Ritchie. US. 2009. 133 mins.
The world's most famous fictional detective returns to the big screen bearing six-pack abs and an effects-heavy action story, but this adrenalised Sherlock Holmes lacks the intelligence of its brilliant titular hero. Robert Downey Jr lends his not-inconsiderable wit to the proceedings as the brawny, brooding Holmes, but despite director Guy Ritchie's robust re-imagining, this picture struggles to transplant the 19th-century sleuth into the world of 21st-century Hollywood blockbusters.
While Downey Jr provides his usual devil-may-care charm, Sherlock Holmes ultimately feels like an excuse for high-energy action sequences
Opening on Christmas Day in the US (and the following day in the UK), this Warners release seems poised to become a sizable hit among action audiences, although Avatar could bite into that demographic. Even so, Sherlock Holmes is aiming at a wide base with its starry cast, love story, and a contemporary attitude towards its beloved central character.
In 1890s London, Sherlock Holmes (Downey Jr) and his trusty assistant Dr Watson (Law) have just apprehended the murderous Lord Blackwood (Strong), a master of the dark arts. After being executed, however, Blackwood rises from the dead to continue his wave of terror. Holmes must hunt the villain down while dealing with the unexpected return of former love Irene Adler (McAdams), a calculating American who still bewitches him.
Based on the iconic character created by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes tries to preserve the detective's milieu and crime-solving genius while introducing a big-budget adventure element. In films like Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels, Guy Ritchie has embraced hyperkinetic action scenes, so his involvement in Sherlock Holmes is surely meant to give the movie a hip, modern-day spin that the studio hopes will help give rise to a new franchise (the movie's ending lays the groundwork for a sequel).
But while Ritchie (with the assistance of production designer Sarah Greenwood and cinematographer Philippe Rousselot) has recreated 19th-century London as a teeming metropolis akin to the Gotham City of the recent Christopher Nolan-helmed Batman films, the movie's overstuffed aesthetic soon takes precedence over everything else, including character and story.
Emphasising Holmes's interests outside of sleuthing – particularly his skill as a boxer – Richie wants Sherlock Holmes to be a dark, edgy, exciting adaptation. Holmes may still have his trademark pipe, but he has ditched the deerstalker hat and bookish demeanour for a roguish manner and buffed-up physique. Likewise, he and Watson are presented as a crime-fighting duo who get involved in elaborate action set pieces that are pitched at a hyperbolic level that quickly becomes numbing.
The desire to turn Conan Doyle's detective into a complicated action hero is intriguing, but after the recent cinematic reboots of Batman and James Bond, this approach has started to lose its novelty. More crucially, unlike the other two properties, Sherlock Holmes's personality and psyche aren't meaningfully explored in the new film. While Downey Jr provides his usual devil-may-care charm, this Sherlock Holmes ultimately feels like an excuse for high-energy action sequences rather than an attempt to breathe new life into a dusty literary icon.
The rest of the cast similarly suffers from Ritchie's preference for pyrotechnics. As Watson, Law nails the character's refined air, but the performance isn't permitted to evolve beyond that. McAdams has played sassy, fetching women in movies as diverse as Wedding Crashers and State Of Play, but she flounders in this period role. As for Strong, his Blackwood is a rather standard-issue villain, leaving the viewer hoping that the filmmakers will do a better job when Holmes's greatest nemesis, Moriarty, makes his assumed appearance in the next movie.
Jude Law ce da steal the show...
Mislim da se oni ne plaše AVATARa kao konkurencije jer su i u vreme TITANICa mnogi filmovi izlazili uporedo i bili hit. Međutim, izaći tako brzo u vreme AVATARa je hrabrost koja se možda i isplati, ko zna...
Downey bi mnogo bolje odigrao dr Watsona, prema teaseru koji sam video :!:
Previše je on komična faca.
Double post...
Nema čekanja, nema povlačenja, samo napred xuzi
Quint chats Sherlock Holmes with producers Joel Silver, Lionel Wigram and Susan Downey!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Now that we're in the final stretch of the Holiday season it is right to finally publish this one on three chat I did at Comic-Con with the producers of Sherlock Holmes: mega producer Joel Silver, Lionel Wigram and Susan Downey.
I also had the opportunity to chat with Susan's husband and star, Robert alongside the lovely and amazing Rachel McAdams while the Con was on. You can check out that interview here if you missed it.
Of course, being a Comic-Con interview it's only 10 minutes long, so we don't get a chance to get in-depth on anything in particular, but it's a good, quick read. I could read the passion instantly on their faces, especially Wigram who fostered this film from infancy.
Enjoy!
Susan Downey: Do you write under a certain name on the site?
Quint: I'm Quint.
Susan Downey: Oh, you are Quint. Alright. Sorry I didn't know that.
Quint: That's alright.
Susan Downey: I read it all of the time.
Quint: Thanks! We watch your movies all of the time, so it works out. I thought the footage looked really great. Drew [McWeeney] got to spend all of that time on the set and I was so insanely jealous of him!
Susan Downey: We took good care of him.
Joel Silver: But he's gone now. He's a non-person, right?
Quint: He's at Hitfix, but he is here.
Joel Silver: But he's a non-person for Ain't It Cool News.
Quint: Well, he broke our hearts, but we have moved past it.
Susan Downey: But he was "Moriarty," so he got a little special treatment.
Quint: Of course, there was no better person to go. He's still Moriarity and his pieces were great.
Joel Silver: They are great stories.
Quint: He knocked those out of the park. That's why I was saying I was so insanely jealous of it, because just the way he was writing about it made me want to be there, you know?
Susan Downey: Yeah, it was fun. He got to see some good stuff. He was there for slaughterhouse stuff.
Quint: What I really dug about the footage and what you guys said on the panel today was how you were talking about how the story kind of merges occult stuff with Sherlock and I was just telling Robert [Downey Jr.] and Rachel [McAdams] that I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, like that's why I love RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK so much. I love that kind of merging of occult and how it's kind of based in reality and actual fact.
Joel Silver: We don't have Sherlock Holmes rolling down a hill in a refrigerator, though.
Quint: That would be amazing though. Save it for a sequel! So, how did the occult element evolve?
Lionel Wigram: Really the inspiration was Aleister Crowley and our bad guy Blackwood takes over a secret society, which isn't that similar to The Order of The Golden Dawn, which is what Crowley did. Obviously Crowley was the starting point, but what our bad guy does is much more dramatic and much more flamboyant and of course there's always that thing of "Is it real or is it not?" We very much wanted to explore the idea of the guru and of the person who interests other people by being able to do magical supernatural stuff and what that means.
Quint: And pairing that with somebody like Holmes who is so intellectual, I think is going to make it very interesting.
Lionel Wigram: As you know, Conan Doyle was a big into the occult and all of that kind of stuff. He attended séances and all of that kind of stuff, so that felt very real and obviously THE HOUND OF BASKERVILLES explores that.
Quint: And that's the story that is probably most associated with Holmes.
Lionel Wigram: That's right, people love the occult. They want to believe in magic and that's one of the themes of our story.
Quint: What also intrigued me on the panel was how you were talking about using a comic book version to get the movie sold, which is fascinating to me, because ten years ago that would have hurt you, that wouldn't of helped you, you know? But now putting it in that art form...
Joel Silver: But Warners understands comic books, you see?
Susan Downey: It's their language.
Joel Silver: They got it, so it took Lionel actually spending his own money to create a more or less galley of a comic book for them to see the cover with Sherlock Holmes with a knife in one hand and a gun in the other and that was when they said "Oh, we get it!"
Quint: At that point was Guy [Ritchie] involved or was that later?
Lionel Wigram: Not at that point. I had always pitched it as the Guy Ritchie version of a Sherlock Holmes movie, because that was the best way I could think of to distinguish it and give it a sense of style.
Joel Silver: LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN didn't help us either, but it was the idea of taking this character that people knew so well and had such familiarity to him and then really bring him to a contemporary kind of story with characters who would be accessible, but at the same time keep the 1891 appearance.
Quint: Bringing someone like Guy in I'm sure helped the money guys to not worry that it was jus going to be a stodgy...
Joel Silver: And ROCKNROLLA helped that too.
Susan Downey: They just get to shift their concerns and say, "But can he handle something that big?" They just get a whole new set of concerns, but yeah they definitely didn't fear it was going to be stuffy anymore, but yeah basically the comic book gave Lionel the greenlight to go write a script, which he did and then that script, they did some more work on it with a new writer, which then led to everybody else's involvement and then we kept working on the material as we were getting into preproduction and everything.
Lionel Wigram: These things are evolving and what Guy and Robert brought to the process and Susan and Joel... This team came together and just took what I had done and elevated it to a whole new level. It's so much better and richer and fantastic.
Joel Silver: You watched the footage today?
Quint: I did. I thought it looked great. I loved the fight scene, because you had only seen the slow motion version of that before and...
Susan Downey: And now you know how it pays off...
Quint: I remember Drew talking about that, too. He was like people got worried that it doesn't feel like Sherlock Holmes and he was like "Wait until you see it in context, because it's not just about a showoff fight."
Lionel Wigram: Also Sherlock Holmes is a bare knuckle fighter, in the books he is referred to as that.
Quint: Exactly.
Joel Silver: And the studio was concerned about that at the outset. They were saying, "Will people really understand and like bare knuckle fighting?" They love it.
Quint: It works and you heard the reaction from the people whenever you have that great slow motion moment, which is badass in and of itself and then when you just see him do it in real time... I loved it.
Susan Downey: And that was even a slightly cut down version of the scene for the purposes of this reel, so it breaths even a bit more... I think there are a lot of nice beats like that you will see in the movie where we manage to combine the character and the action and that's a very important element for both Guy and Robert, because I think they both have seen enough movies that just have a bunch of "Now is the time for the action beat" and sometimes it's really entertaining if you have a great second unit guy it's really cool and all of that, but other times it just becomes a blur of images and you just go for a rollercoaster ride and then you join the story again. For both of them, it was always really important that we always integrated the two, so I think through every action beat you are going to see the characters being informed as well, which is something that we are proud of.
Quint: That's crucial though. All of the stuff that you remember, going back to the films that I grew up with that (Joel) produced, that I worship... I think that's really central to a lot of the best action films. That's what sells it and it kind of evolves it beyond action.
Joel Silver: There's a key line in LETHAL WEAPON where they say "Can we go on three? So does that mean we go on three or is it one, two and then three or do we go on..." the idea of kind of dealing with those conventions. We are going back to the beginning of that, before it started and we do this thing we call packing and unpacking in this story where you will see things happen and then later on Sherlock will unpack that and show you what you saw, because he sees everything and the one line in the movie, where (Watson) says "How did you see that?" and (Holmes) is like "Well, I was looking for it." That kind of attitude.
Look, I think it's a strong picture. It's smart. It's fun. It's got scale and I think it's what the audience wants to see and they want to see everyone in it doing what they are doing and I think we deliver.
Quint: I think your biggest challenge, after getting the funding in place obviously, was executing a friendship which has survived over a century now.
Joel Silver: It's a hundred and twenty two years old, this story...
Quint: Not only from Drew' piece, but also from what I've been able to see with my own eyes, it's like it seems that the unlikely casting... When people think of the mythology of Sherlock Holmes they don't usually think of Watson as somebody Jude Law would play, but it seems like they are perfectly complimenting each other and he is Watson.
Joel Silver: They are great.
Susan Downey: I think that's going to be the thing that surprises people the most, because with Robert having come off IRON MAN, I think people were surprised and he's sort of had his time and now there is an expectation. I think he fulfills that expectation and that's good news, but I think with Jude, he hasn't had that opportunity to shine and blow people's mind.
He so nails Watson and he's so good and so entertaining and their performance together is that kind of thing you can see a bunch of times and always find something new and to me that just says that there are really good performances that are layered characters, because you discover a new layer each time.
Quint: I can tell you I have see the trailer probably before a dozen movies now and to each audience, it gets a laugh, the final line with the pillow. Every audience is uproarious.
Susan Downey: Did you tell Robert that?
Quint: No.
Susan Downey: He would quickly tell you that he wrote that line. He is very proud of that. (laughs)
Joel Silver: (laughs) The trailer that's with the HARRY POTTER movie doesn't have that ending, because that's a little too sophisticated for the... It's also a very funny ending, but it's not that one.
Quint: I remember it's him in the carriage, right?
Susan Downey: Yeah, it's when Watson punches him and he's all pissed off.
Quint: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time.
Joel Silver: Thank you.
Susan Downey: Absolutely. I'm glad you like it!
Quint: I can't wait to see the whole thing!
These Comic-Con interviews are super short, so we only scratched the surface. Having now seen the flick I would have gone back and focused mostly on the chemistry between Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr. They are so great together and, I'd wager, the reason why this film will live past this Holiday weekend (which is supposed to be massive if tracking and buzz is to be considered).
Hope you guys enjoyed it! Keep an eye out for my review of the flick! Hitting before Christmas!
-Quint
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Ušvercovaše me danas na pretrpanu novinarsku projekciju Šerloka Holmsa Gaja Ričija u Takvudu, pa se osećam dužnim da napišem koju.
Ko je gledao trejler, zna šta se može očekivati: zabavna akciona avantura. To se i dobije, u više nego zadovoljavajućim količinama, garnirano sa preteranim one-man-19th-century-steampunk-CSI-lab detektivlukom, dve ljubavne priče, psom koji prdi (!!!), francuskim grmaljem, okultnom misterijom, itd. Priča i okruženje su pitki, nigde mi ništa nije škripalo i nauživao sam se gledajući. Nastavak može da bude samo spektakularniji.
BTW, još od trejlera mi je bilo jako zabavno što su uzeli Marka Stronga za zlikovca jer mi liči (ili su se trudili da liči) na pokojnog Šerloka, Džeremija Breta (uštogljen-upeglan-zalizan).
Btw, jeste li znali da je Božić bio zabranjen?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Puritan_New_England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Puritan_New_England)
Quote from: crippled_avenger on 15-12-2009, 12:45:48
Sherlock Holmes
By TODD MCCARTHY
Memorably played 14 times by Basil Rathbone through the '40s, Holmes has been seen only intermittently onscreen since then, notably in Billy Wilder's inspired but tragically truncated 1970 "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes," as well as in "The Seven-Per-Cent Solution" in 1976, "Young Sherlock Holmes" in 1985 and, most correctly, impersonated by Peter O'Toole several times on British television in the '80s.
jel ovaj mccarthy prosto zaboravio da pomene džeremija breta ili je njegova verzija šerloka nama najupečatljivija jer smo je najviše gledali na tvu? preciznije - koliko je šerlok džeremija breta prepoznat u engleskoj, americi...?
u engleskoj jeste, u americi, očito, nije.
Quote from: lou benny on 06-01-2010, 00:40:03
Quote from: crippled_avenger on 15-12-2009, 12:45:48
Sherlock Holmes
By TODD MCCARTHY
Memorably played 14 times by Basil Rathbone through the '40s, Holmes has been seen only intermittently onscreen since then, notably in Billy Wilder's inspired but tragically truncated 1970 "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes," as well as in "The Seven-Per-Cent Solution" in 1976, "Young Sherlock Holmes" in 1985 and, most correctly, impersonated by Peter O'Toole several times on British television in the '80s.
jel ovaj mccarthy prosto zaboravio da pomene džeremija breta ili je njegova verzija šerloka nama najupečatljivija jer smo je najviše gledali na tvu? preciznije - koliko je šerlok džeremija breta prepoznat u engleskoj, americi...?
To što taj MCCARTHY ne zna za DŽ.B.-a, ne znači da za Breta ne znaju u Americi, a ako za Breta ne znaju u Americi to ama baš nikakve veze nema sa ostatkom sveta, a naročito Britanijom.
Pitanje je uvek - koliko Ameri znaju za sve što se proizvodi van USA? Nekad je moglo da se kaže - malo ili ni malo, a danas, sa razvijenim satelitskim i kablovskom kanalima i DVD tržištem i internetom situacija jeste bolja, ali ne epohalno bolja.
I dalje, bilo koja, u celom svetu poznata britanska humoristička tv serija ne postaje hit u Americi, nego, ako je dobra i uspešna Ameri prave svoju verziju, koja bude uspešna, kao verzija Ofisa ili flop, kao verzija Man behaving badly. Oni koji prate neki satelitski kanal tipa Fox Life znaju za Alo, Alo - prosečan američki Džon Smit nema pojma šta je to.
Kad se prvi Mr. Bean prikaže u USA, većina njih misle za Etkinsona da je neki novajlija. Kad dr House postigne uspeh, oni tu prvi put vide ili primete Hju Lorija.
Znam da je Beni Hil bio više od anonimca u USA svojevremeno, u ona vremena 70-ih kad prosečan amer nije čuo za ABBU. Neke stvari kod njih se pročuju tek mnogo kasnije (pomenuta ABBA).
Ali poznavaoci filma bi trebali i tamo da znaju više od običnih ljudi, pa je tako i taj Tod morao da zna za Breta i to da je on na brojnim glasanjima fanova Dojla i Holmsa proglašavan za najboljeg Holmsa.
Samo na televizijama dostupnim kod nas u SBB ponudi u zadnjih godinu-dve smo kao Holmsa mogli da vidimo Breta, ian richardsona, Ruperta Evereta, Matt (Max Headroom) Frewera - na Holmarku itd.
Cene Ameri Bretta ali ja mislim da se Todd fokusirao na filmske Holmese. O'Toolea je pomenuo jer ima pornićarsko ime koje naravno asocira na Holmesa. Uskoro ćemo uostalom moći da polemišemo i ko je najbolje igrao John Holmesa, Mark Wahlberg ili Val Kilmer. Ili sam John Holmes. Iako je meni John Holmesa upravo sam John Holmes najslabije igrao.
Što se današnje projekcije tiče, ja sam na nju došao, ali sam sa nje i izašao pošto je bio full house a smatrao sam neumesnim da dižem ceo red kako bih se smestio pokraj Sagitaša. Ipak, pogledaću HOLMESa u bioskopu što pre, mada teško je gledati Ritchieja posle Camerona. U to ime sam danas pomislio da u Tuckwoodu kad sam već tu opet overim AVATAR. No, nešto se isprečilo tom naumu.
Ok je Bret i sve ja to cenim, ali posle Bazila Ratbouna je Holmsa trebalo penzionisati. Isto kao i Poaroa posle Justinova.
Zapravo, jedino ovakav neki Holms koji nema veze sa pravim Holmsom mozhe da bude dobar, jer ga niko ne mozhe porediti sa Bazilom.
Quote from: Le Samourai on 06-01-2010, 02:10:21
Ok je Bret i sve ja to cenim, ali posle Bazila Ratbouna je Holmsa trebalo penzionisati. Isto kao i Poaroa posle Justinova.
Zapravo, jedino ovakav neki Holms koji nema veze sa pravim Holmsom mozhe da bude dobar, jer ga niko ne mozhe porediti sa Bazilom.
Brett i SuchetJustinov je dobar na svoj način.
...i ja sam juče pogledao Holmesa i Zakkov sažetak je sasvim, sasvim ispravan...ovo je prvenstveno raspojasani akcijaš, pa sve ostalo; Ritchiju bih na dušu stavio jedino razuzdanost kada je upotreba CGI u pitanju, za sve ostalo ima moj amin - i za primetan i glasan otklon u odnosu na kanon i prethodnike i hipertrofiju u sveopštem pristupu, a sve to jer me kupio svojim energičnim, drčnim i, čini mi se, relaksiranim pristupom ovoj priči...
I meni se dopao Šerlok.
Quote from: Alex on 06-01-2010, 02:25:34
Quote from: Le Samourai on 06-01-2010, 02:10:21
Ok je Bret i sve ja to cenim, ali posle Bazila Ratbouna je Holmsa trebalo penzionisati. Isto kao i Poaroa posle Justinova.
Zapravo, jedino ovakav neki Holms koji nema veze sa pravim Holmsom mozhe da bude dobar, jer ga niko ne mozhe porediti sa Bazilom.
Brett i Suchet
Justinov je dobar na svoj način.
I Justinov i Suše su odlični, ali Sušeov Poaro je sličniji onom iz knjiga.
Quote from: Harvester on 07-01-2010, 03:34:28
Quote from: Alex on 06-01-2010, 02:25:34
Quote from: Le Samourai on 06-01-2010, 02:10:21
Ok je Bret i sve ja to cenim, ali posle Bazila Ratbouna je Holmsa trebalo penzionisati. Isto kao i Poaroa posle Justinova.
Zapravo, jedino ovakav neki Holms koji nema veze sa pravim Holmsom mozhe da bude dobar, jer ga niko ne mozhe porediti sa Bazilom.
Brett i Suchet
Justinov je dobar na svoj način.
I Justinov i Suše su odlični, ali Sušeov Poaro je sličniji onom iz knjiga.
Znam, čit'o sam neke.
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Tokom gledanja SHERLOCK HOLMESa Guy Ritchieja, sigurno da je poseban efekat proisticao iz prijatne okolnosti da je sala bila prepuna što svakako dopinosi prijatnom utisku. Film je vrlo solidan. Naravno, u njemu se otvara nekoliko tema koje su sporne.
Prva tema je gde je ovaj Holmes u odnosu na ranije filmske inkarnacije. Kad je reč o ranijim filmovima najviše liči na Levinsonovog Holmesa u Spielbergovoj produkciji pošto se dotiče teme okultizma i nudi brojne akcione set-pieceove. Moramo imati na umu da su najbolji filmovi o Holmesu upravo i bili oni transgresivni, kao i da su ključne ideje u toj vrsti filmova proisticale iz priča koje su iskoračile izvan Conan Doyleovog kanona. Ne samo da se Basilov Holmes borio sa nacistima, nego se kao najzanimljiviji filmovi o Holmesu izdvajaju PRIVATE LIFE Billy Wildera, SEVEN-PER-CENT SOLUTION Herberta Rossa (više na nivou ideje nego same rediteljske egzekucije) ili MURDER BY DECREE Boba Clarka. Svi ti filmovi su drugačiji od konvencionalne i televizijske verzije Homesa koje smatramo kanonskim.
Ritchiejev Holmes se razlikuje po tome što je reč o buddy filmu, o Holmesu u post KISS KISS BANG BANG danima, bez Blackovog šarma i humora naravno, ali sa Downeyem u glavnoj ulozi koji radi ono što je radio u KKBB plus sa obnovljenom idejom buddy filma koju je Black na neki način i vaspostavio u sam centar holivudskih komercijalnih koncepata, zajedno sa producentom Joel Silverom koji je uostalom radio i HOLMESa. U toj buddy hemiji očuvani su elementi Holmesovog i Watsonovog karaktera, njihove tipične osobine predstavljaju osnov njihove komunikacije i u tom smislu scenario je vrlo pažljiv i skrupulozan.
Isto važi i za strukturu samih postupaka glavnih junaka. Iako priča po strukturi nema veze za tipičnim Holmes pričama u kojima se postavi misterija a onda se prati kako se ona razotkriva, sakupljaju tragovi i sl. i moglo bi se reći da je bazirana više na DIE HARD mustri, što je takođe Joel Silverovo maslo, same akcije junaka su potpuno u skladu sa likom. Da, Holmes se dosta bije, ali su tuče postavljene tako da nam pokazuju kako je ta tuča samo artikulacija njegovog ozbiljnog razmišljanja o tome kako da naudi protivniku. Isto važi ia za sve akcione detalje, svaki od njih u sebi ima neke element dedukcije kojim se približava Holmesovom karakteru. Iako, možemo reći da ta akciona dimenzija nije nešto po čemu je Holmes poznat, iako znamo da se on vrlo dobro snalazio u opasnim situacijama čak i u pitomijim adaptacijama, ne može se osporiti da je ona ovde apsoluno personalizovana i da akcija zaista nije generic.
Isto važi i za negativca. Mark Strong je jedna jeremybrettovska pojava i bilo bi interesantno videti ga u ulozi Holmesa, možda u nekoj britanskoj seriji. Njegov negativac je na liniji Moriartyja (iako se i sam Moriarty pojavljuje i uspostavlja kao veliki arhinemezis) i Rit lepo pravi jednu steampunk interpretaciju Holmes-negativca.
Irene Adler se, ako imamo u vidu taj homoerotski odnos između Downeya i Lawa, koji je uostalom u samo osnovu Silverovog prilaza buddy junacima, ispostavlja kao višak, i ona je možda ponajviše zapravo ustupak tradiciji Holmes-filmova u ulozi žene kroz koji se objašnjava zašto Holmes ne voli žene. Doduše, Rachel McAdams ne uspeva do kraja da kanališe tu fatalnost i superiornost i do kraja filma ostavlja utisak nekakve damsel in distress koja je sporadično istinski bespomoćna, pa čak i nežna.
Ritchiejevo vođenje priče je bolje nego ikad a inscenacije su cool, sa rekonstrukcijom prljavom melting pot Londona koji liči na dickensovski košmar, bez prevelikih ličnih rediteljskih obeležja. Očigledno je da se Guy podredio funkciji pripovedača, da je svoje želje podredio potrebama priče i to čini SHERLOCK HOLMESa njegovim najboljim filmom.
Drago mi je da se Joel Silver sa ovim lepim filmom vratio na velika vrata, i da je u jednoj tako eksploatisanoj i prepoznatljivoj mitologiji ostavio i svoj autorski pečat kao producent prepoznatljivog stila.
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rispekt. do ove recenzije nisam ni znao da mi se gleda xjap
Ja imam jedan suštinski problem sa HOLMESom koji nije ni Ritchiejeva krivica, niti neki zanatski propust, već prosto subjektivni utisak da meni ovaj film iz nekog razloga ima toliko odbojnih elemenata, potpuno subjektivno odbojnih, tipa ne volim Ritchieja, Downey mi je dosadio itd. I sam film je zaista većinu tih problema uspeo da prevaziđe. Ne da izleči, ali svakako da ih prevaziđe u svojih dva sata trajanja.
Pošto je ovaj forum pun hororoljubaca, a i ljubitelja Holmsa, nije na odmet informacija, za one koji ne znaju, da je Marvel svojevremeno imao horor varijantu Šerloka Holmsa. Smešten u sadašnje vreme, on se zvao Hodiah Tvist (Hodiah Twist).
A njegov Votson - možete videti u oblačiću na slici. Ovaj lik nije doživeo veći uspeh, možda zato što je plagijat, ali nikad se ne zna šta budućnost nosi, s obzirom da je njegov kolega Blejd lepo prošao na filmu.
I da, Hodijah Tvist nije horor - čudovište, nego Holmsov dvojnik koji se bori protiv takvih.
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Otvorio se sa preko 10 000 kod nas. Nastavlja se svetski trend da AVATAR generalno digne ceo box office i da se drugi filmovi gledaju više.
ŠH je pravi bioskopski film. Isto kao i Avatar. Zavređuje kupljenu ulaznicu.
16 015 gledalaca. Odlično ide.
Film je dosadan da Bog sacuva ,ajde sto smo gledali Madonu kako se blamira u onom glupavom filmu ,,Swept away,,ali ovo je jos gore, GORE!!!
Pri cemu sam gledala u bioskopu,da sam gledala kuci ,lepo bih ugasila posle 15 minuta.
Ovo je sve samo ne zabavna akcija,ali bice da sam zensko i ,da nemam pojma.
Quote from: agota on 15-01-2010, 23:45:55Ovo je sve samo ne zabavna akcija,ali bice da sam zensko i ,da nemam pojma.
može biti, može biti...
Quote from: agota on 15-01-2010, 23:45:55
Film je dosadan da Bog sacuva ,ajde sto smo gledali Madonu kako se blamira u onom glupavom filmu ,,Swept away,,ali ovo je jos gore, GORE!!!
Pri cemu sam gledala u bioskopu,da sam gledala kuci ,lepo bih ugasila posle 15 minuta.
Ovo je sve samo ne zabavna akcija,ali bice da sam zensko i ,da nemam pojma.
Nijedan film nije gori od Swept Away, a ti ne praviš ništa veću grešku od mnogih ljudi sa ovog foruma koji imaju običaj da dobre filmove ocenjuju kao loše. U stvari, ti uopšte ne praviš grešku, već iznosiš svoje subjektivne utiske, dok pojedinci svoje subjektivne utiske iznose kao objektivne relevantne prikaze iako su potpuno pogrešni.
Malo je zaista loših filmova koji idu u bioskopsku distribuciju, a Swept Away je jedan od retkih.
Izasao DVDScr. snimak je dosta dobar.
Meni film vrlo zabavan, ali to je i za očekivati jer je ovo jedna potpuna, temeljita i bestidna apoteoza geekstva, sa sve snažnim homoerotskim nabojem i sve što ide uz to. I mojoj ženi se dopao.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 16-01-2010, 22:10:30
Meni film vrlo zabavan, ali to je i za očekivati jer je ovo jedna potpuna, temeljita i bestidna apoteoza geekstva, sa sve snažnim homoerotskim nabojem i sve što ide uz to. I mojoj ženi se dopao.
Upravo to! Ja sam se prilicno zabavio gledajuci, osim bas-bas preteranog akcentovanja latentnog homoseksualizma izmedju glavnih junaka. Ali, ako se predje preko toga, zabavno... i to vrlo! :)
Meni je nepojmljivo kao Ričije Šerlok Holms nekom može biti dosadan. Okej, razumem da se nekom ne dopada, ukusi su različiti... Ali da je dosadan - to već nikako.
Evo šire (i dosadnije :lol:) analize. (http://cvecezla.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/guy-ritchies-sherlock-holmes/)
I meni beše dosadan. Krenimo od osnovnog, nije li poenta Šerloka Holmsa misterija? Šta je nejasno u ovom filmu? Kakav zaključak se očekuje? Da je negativac zapravo živ? Pa to je očito. Da nikakva magija nije uključena? Bilo bi patetično da jeste. Nekoliko usputnih začkoljica, poput načina na koji su ubistva izvedena, to je dovoljno? Hm. Pokušaji duhovitosti ostali su pokušaji, prepucavanja između Holmsa i Votsona predvidljiva su i nezanimljiva. Ništa ne može biti toliko loše kao Swept Away, ne znam otkuda to poređenje, Holmes kao celina nije loš. Ritchie se donekle otrgao od svoje uobičajene strukture, RDJ i JL rade više nego solidan posao, a London je interesantno depresivan i prljav, što je takođe za pohvalu, ali prave privlačnosti za mene ovaj film nema. Dosadan je.
Quote from: Alec on 16-01-2010, 22:47:44
osim bas-bas preteranog akcentovanja latentnog homoseksualizma izmedju glavnih junaka.
Za mene je to sasvim dovoljan razlog da ne gledam film.
Ma nije to na taj način potencirano. Pročitaj moj tekst na blogu.
E meni je gori i od ,, Swept Away,, iz razloga sto sam se bar zabavila gledajuci isti.
Ako nista drugo bilo mi je zabavno da piljim u Madonine bicepse,tricepse ,plocice ,ma zena ima ledja ko boker,kad obgrli onog nesrecnog Gaja, pa nema mu zivota ,tacno mogu da zamislim tu ludjakinju kad ustane iz kreveta kako marsira.Monstrum.
Dve cadjave dvocevke je dobar film i Snec jos bolji, ja zapravo volim Gaja zbog tih filmova i bas sam se radovala ej bre idem da gledam Serlok Holmsa a gledala sam na sat svakih 15 min kad ce kraj, ko na casu, kad ce da zvoni a tetkicu zakljucali u aneks.
Meho ovo potpisujem,tacno u metu.
Alana Moorea koji je sa Ligom Izvanrednih Džentlmena takoreći napravio prototip iščitavanja viktorijanske fantastike kao post-viktorijanskog palpa.
Quote from: Harvester on 16-01-2010, 23:54:45
Quote from: Alec on 16-01-2010, 22:47:44
osim bas-bas preteranog akcentovanja latentnog homoseksualizma izmedju glavnih junaka.
Za mene je to sasvim dovoljan razlog da ne gledam film.
a šta se to bojiš da ćeš videti/otkriti ako pogledaš neki film sa homoerotičnim elementima, harv?
Mrzim gej začine!!!
Pretpostavljam da je razlika između homoerotizma, kao fenomena koji se da prepoznati u kulturi glavnog toka, i pojma "gej" koji označava kulturu, sa gomilom karakteristika koje je čine posebnom u odnosu na kulturu glavnog toka intuitivno shvatljiva i da se Harvi samo džilita iz zabave...
Quote from: Harvester on 17-01-2010, 03:03:20
Mrzim gej začine!!!
Uh, uh... Frojd bi ovde imao pune ruke posla.
Inače, u Šerloku Holmsu je homoerotski element jedva pa i zagreban - što se i očekuje od film koji košta koliko košta i koji je namenjen najširem auditorijumu. Znači, subverzije ima samo na kašičicu - a i ti u naznakama koje su otvorene za interpretaciju. Voston ima svoju verenicu Meri i Holms jeste ljubomoran na nju - ali iz perspektive zapostavljenog prijatelja, ne zapostavljenog ljubavnika. Uostalom, i Holms ima svoj hetero ljubavni interes u filmu, famoznu Irenu Adler, tako da to prelama eventualnu ambivalentnost... Znači, Harv, možeš slobodno da pogledaš film i da se ne osetiš ugroženo. Džad Lou neće iskočiti iz ekrana da ti uvali jezičinu.
Quote from: Kunac on 17-01-2010, 12:30:41
Inače, u Šerloku Holmsu je homoerotski element jedva pa i zagreban - što se i očekuje od film koji košta koliko košta i koji je namenjen najširem auditorijumu. Znači, subverzije ima samo na kašičicu - a i ti u naznakama koje su otvorene za interpretaciju. Voston ima svoju verenicu Meri i Holms jeste ljubomoran na nju - ali iz perspektive zapostavljenog prijatelja, ne zapostavljenog ljubavnika. Uostalom, i Holms ima svoj hetero ljubavni interes u filmu, famoznu Irenu Adler, tako da to prelama eventualnu ambivalentnost... Znači, Harv, možeš slobodno da pogledaš film i da se ne osetiš ugroženo. Džad Lou neće iskočiti iz ekrana da ti uvali jezičinu.
Naravno, ja sam i rekao da ima latentnog homoseksualizma. I to se poprilicno jasno vidi, a Rici je to ocigledno hteo da naglasi.
Dakle, Harvesteru, slobodno mozes da pogledas. Nema erotike i sl. samo malo ljubomore i ljubavi izmedju dva muskarca. Kunac to vidi kao prijateljstvo! xcheers
Možda će odnos Votsona i Holmsa biti produbljen u nastavku... Ko zna?
ili još bolje - u prick-wellu!
Za sada je najavljen samo Asylumov knockoff, ali, ko zna, ako ovaj film vrlo dobro prođe, siguran sam da će porno industrija blagovremeno reagovati. Setimo se samo koliko je Who's Nailin' Paylin? sjajno prošao.
Quote from: Kunac on 17-01-2010, 12:30:41
Inače, u Šerloku Holmsu je homoerotski element jedva pa i zagreban - što se i očekuje od film koji košta koliko košta i koji je namenjen najširem auditorijumu. Znači, subverzije ima samo na kašičicu - a i ti u naznakama koje su otvorene za interpretaciju. Voston ima svoju verenicu Meri i Holms jeste ljubomoran na nju - ali iz perspektive zapostavljenog prijatelja, ne zapostavljenog ljubavnika. Uostalom, i Holms ima svoj hetero ljubavni interes u filmu, famoznu Irenu Adler, tako da to prelama eventualnu ambivalentnost... Znači, Harv, možeš slobodno da pogledaš film i da se ne osetiš ugroženo. Džad Lou neće iskočiti iz ekrana da ti uvali jezičinu.
xrofl
Meni se film extra dopao, volim Dzeremija Breta, al ovaj otklon u vidu Jr. je odlican. JL je cool kao dr Watson, a moj omiljeni Mark Strong je fenomenalan ko i uvek. xsmlove2
Nije mi se dopao kasting za Irenu Adler, Rachel McAdams mi ne lezi nikako. Mozda je to proizvod toga sto me The Time Traveller's Wife smorio nevidjeno.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 17-01-2010, 13:25:18
Meni se film extra dopao, volim Dzeremija Breta, al ovaj otklon u vidu Jr. je odlican. JL je cool kao dr Watson, a moj omiljeni Mark Strong je fenomenalan ko i uvek. xsmlove2
Nije mi se dopao kasting za Irenu Adler, Rachel McAdams mi ne lezi nikako. Mozda je to proizvod toga sto me The Time Traveller's Wife smorio nevidjeno.
Najzad neko ko je sposoban da prevaziđe svoju ljubav prema Brettu i prihvati novog HOLMESa. Meni je Brett fantastičan i najbolji Holmes, ali moram reći da sam sposoban da produžim dalje i diskvalifikacije novog HOLMESa iz vizure poređenja sa Brettom i to isključivo iz te vizure su sve češće i sve mi više smetaju.
Nego, lilit, slažeš li se da je Strong jedna brettovska figura?
Kako te je smorio WIFE, ja sam baš očekivao da će ti se dopasti?
Quote from: crippled_avenger on 17-01-2010, 13:58:39
Najzad neko ko je sposoban da prevaziđe svoju ljubav prema Brettu i prihvati novog HOLMESa. Meni je Brett fantastičan i najbolji Holmes, ali moram reći da sam sposoban da produžim dalje i diskvalifikacije novog HOLMESa iz vizure poređenja sa Brettom i to isključivo iz te vizure su sve češće i sve mi više smetaju.
Nego, lilit, slažeš li se da je Strong jedna brettovska figura?
Kako te je smorio WIFE, ja sam baš očekivao da će ti se dopasti?
Da, da...ne bih poredila Breta i novog Holmsa posto je to prosto jedna druga ravan. Meni je Bret bio ono sto sam zamisljala dok sam gutala AKDojla kao klinka, ali sad kad sam (pre)zrela xrofl, Jr. mi je, uz svu njegovu ekscentricnost koja je razlicita od Bretove, nekako potpuno legao.
I da, kao sto si vec napisao, Strong u ulozi Holmsa u nekoj britanskoj seriji bi bilo zanimljivo videti.
Wife me smorio, ali na kvadrat. Mozda sam previse ocekivala jos od momenta kad je moj dragi muz procitao knjigu i izjavio kako su mu ukrali ideju. xrofl
Film mi je bio nekako, ne znam, dosadan, a mozda ima udela i to sto ne volim Erika Banu, znaci, verovatno spada i u neku subjektivnu kategoriju.
Moj muz se odusevio filmom, a posto se odusevio i Avatarom, ozbiljno razmisljam o razvodu braka. xrofl
Tvoj otpor prema Bani proističe iz toga što je Hrvat. Ja to razumem. Ali, zamisli da tu ulogu igra Vojin Ćetković. :)
Što se muža tiče, nadam se da će se uskoro uključiti u rad ovog foruma. :) Čovek očigledno poznaje film.
Quote from: crippled_avenger on 17-01-2010, 13:58:39
Najzad neko ko je sposoban da prevaziđe svoju ljubav prema Brettu i prihvati novog HOLMESa. Meni je Brett fantastičan i najbolji Holmes, ali moram reći da sam sposoban da produžim dalje i diskvalifikacije novog HOLMESa iz vizure poređenja sa Brettom i to isključivo iz te vizure su sve češće i sve mi više smetaju.
"Novi" Holms i nije za poređenje sa Bretom i klasičnim Holmsovima. Radi se o pokušaju da se napravi nešto drugo - drugačije i valjda se u tome uspelo. Kao u slučaju Grejstoka Hjua Hadsona, ali na sasvim drugačiji način tj drugu stranu, suprotnu realizmu.
Ajd dobro, gledaću...
QuoteGolden Globes, USA: 2010
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy
Winner: Robert Downey Jr. for Sherlock Holmes (2009)
Jel taj Šerlok mjuzikl ili komedija? :idea:
Quote from: Harvester on 17-01-2010, 15:43:22
Ajd dobro, gledaću...
Kad pogledaš očekujemo tvoj detaljni rivju uz poseban osvrt na gej začine, kao i da iskreno odgovoriš na pitanje da li te je više uzbudio Holmes ili Watson (i ne, njihov pas se ne računa kao odgovor).
Inače, i meni se prilično svideo novi Šerlok Holms, a posebno što sam već bio skeptičan nakon onog groznog trejlera.
Quote from: Milosh on 18-01-2010, 06:03:41
Inače, i meni se prilično svideo novi Šerlok Holms
misliš, fizički, ili komplet - kao osoba, u dušu?
Što se erotskih spin-offova tiče, koliko sam shvatio priprema se jedan dekotoovski spin-off koji piše Simon Savory. Dakle u njemu će sigurno biti istraženn taj homooerotski segment. E sad, ovo je nepouzdan info od jednog jarana sa FB.
Čisto sumnjam da će u tom filmu biti izraženo išta osim tog homoerotskog segmenta.
ako vas zanima, mogu da pitam sajmona, pošto smo friends na FB.
ali ako to dekoto radi, nema tu leba.
iako je on nesumnjivi autor.
Evo šta kaže Ghoulov friend u jednom intervjuu:
What are you working on next?
"Well David just wrapped The Pit and the Pendulum and did such a good job on it. I really enjoyed writing that one and I love how he filmed it. It's safe to say that the only similarity it has with the story is the pendulum itself. It's not like you can film a whole movie about a guy underneath a pendulum, unless you're witnessing his dream or the deliria in his head, but that would smack too much of a cop-out I think. So, we made it into a contemporary Hammer/Corman-esque throwback, complete with campy dominatrix with an obsession for hypnosis, and a group of student athletes who practice wrestling, diving and, er, storm chasing!
"Essentially I just tried to mould the script into one big metaphor packed with references to clocks, pendulums - even the characters 'swing', ha ha. Then there's all these cacti lying around which, because the film is about these asexual characters and eroticising pain, is a pretty self-explanatory metaphor. Lorielle New plays the lead with relish, it is one to look out for!
"Next up for David and I is a Sherlock Holmes adaptation. I have a really good feeling about it and I know that his spin on it will be an exhilarating one. It'll be faithful to the plots of the original stories, but there will be some interesting new characters cropping up and of course many a gay/lesbian sub-plot! I'm also collaborating on a script with a director in Luxembourg, about a Catholic girl who goes to 'rescue' a female cage-fighter and a post-op transsexual from a life of sin. We'll see what happens with that one."
Sve mi se nešto čini da bi tog lika pod hitno trebalo eksterminisati.
Simon je jedini Ghoulov friend koji se može radovati njegovim backstabbing navikama. :)
kripl je jedini Ghoulov ex-friend kroz čije je naslage debelog mesa njegov stabbing uspeo da prodre.
Quote from: Ghoul on 15-12-2009, 12:57:36
wow, još jedan film za koji nisam bio siguran da ću imati živaca da mu uopšte pružim šansu da me šamara svojim mas-market šenaninganima; sudeći po ovom rivjuu, možda ipak hoću.
ovaj šerlok je bolji nego što je uopšte imao pravo da bude.
lepa trojka.
Preteran film.
Harvi, reaguj!
Sherlock Holmes Trailer from The Asylum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaHvM9KVpcw&feature=player_embedded#normal)
Heh, pa mora se priznati da specijalni efekti izgledaju MALČICE naprednije nego u njihovim starijim filmovima, ali ostatak je standardni Asylum amaterizam we know and love :-)
Film je režirala žena. Radila je i na Avataru.
Rosa u Pressu piše o Holmesu...
24. 01. 2010
PRESS
Detektiv koji se sukobio i sa Hitlerom
Šerloku Holmsu su londonska magla i ulice ponekad bile tesne pa se čak upuštao i u filmske sukobe s firerom. Njegove metode i imidž inspirisale su mnoge, od Matije Bećkovića do doktora Hausa, a i danas mnogi veruju da najčuveniji svetski detektiv nije izmišljeni lik
Šerlok Holms
Šerlok Holms odavno ne zauzima samo prostor u svojoj momačkoj sobi na adresi Bejker strit 221b. Čuveni detektiv s lulom, plaštom i kačketom, već dugo se nalazi u Ginisovoj knjizi rekorda. U ovaj najprestižniji merač rekorda stigao je zahvaljujući podatku da predstavlja najčešće ekranizovani lik i to u više od 200 filmova. ,,Tajms" je 1964. godine objavio da je ukupna prodaja dela o Holmsu zauzela drugo mesto, i to odmah posle ,,Biblije".a
Doktor Haus kao Šerlok
Lik doktora Gregorija Hausa iz danas popularne serije ,,Doktor Haus" zasnovan je u velikoj meri na liku Šerloka Holmsa. On koristi Holmsovu deduktivnu tehniku da bi rešio bolest pacijenata na isti način na koji je Šerlok odgonetao mrežu zločina. Doktor Haus živi u stanu broj 221b, što je i londonska adresa Šerloka Holmsa u Bejker stritu. Dr Haus se druži sa doktorom Džejmsom Vilsonom što je odmah povuklo paralele Holms - Votson i Haus - Vilson. U pilot-epizodi serije pacijent doktora Hausa se preziva Adler, baš kao i velika ljubav Šerloka Holmsa Irena Adler.
Najpoznatiji fiktivni junak na svetu ne samo da je uspevao da razreši najveće misterije pod čađavim nebom viktorijanskog Londona i okoline, već je uspevao da bilo likom, bilo delom utiče i ujedini potpuno različite heroje. I to od doktora Hausa, preko Boba Roka, pa sve do Matije Bećkovića koji je nekoliko hladnih zimskih sezona tokom protekle decenije na glavi imao kapu ala Holms. Kad smo već kod te čuvene kape, treba reći da je u čuvenim prodavnicama šešira u Balkanskoj ulici u Beogradu tokom sedamdesetih godina u izlogu dugo stajao model kape pored koje je bilo ispisano ,,Šerlo Homs". Ni pravopisna greška dovitljivog prodavca nije zbunjivala kupce i obožavatelje slavnog detektiva koji su u doba socijalizma želeli da imaju takvu kapu. Ako je naš socijalizam bio dovoljno fleksibilan da bi mogao da propusti sve ono najpopularnije što je stizalo sa zapada, to se svakako nije moglo odnositi na zemlje tadašnje istočne Evrope gde su se anglosaksonski heroji odbijali o čeličnu zavesu i strogu cenzuru. Upravo je i tu Šerlok nalazio rupu kroz koju se provlačio poput dima iz njegove lule. Tako je u nekadašnjem Sovjetskom savezu patentirana moskovska verzija Šerloka Holmsa koga je tumačio Vasilij Livanov.
Škotski lekar ser Artur Konan Dojl je prvu epizodu o avanturama slavnog detektiva objavio 1887. godine. Od tog prvog misterioznog slučaja koji će razrešiti Holms u sveščici ,,A Study in Scarlet", pa sve do poslednje avanture objavljene 1927, Dojl će od prosečnog doktora iz Edinburga postati jedan od najplaćenijih pisaca, dok će njegov junak prerasti u najpopularni fiktivni lik na planeti. Mnogi fanovi Šerloka Holmsa u svom obožavanju će sve manje imati obzira prema fikciji i trudiće se zapravo da stvarnost oponaša Dojlovu maštu. Tako će i ulica Bejker u kojoj se nalazi kuća Šerloka Holmsa dobiti čuvenu adresu 221b, koja pre nastanka Dojlovog junaka nije imala ovaj broj. U istoj ulici će se otvoriti Muzej Šerloka Holmsa u koji i danas pristižu horde ljubitelja detektiva sa lulom, a 1951. osnovaće se ,,Društvo Šerloka Holmsa" koje okuplja najveće njegove poštovaoce.
Šerlok Holms
Fenomen Šerloka Holmsa nije samo u njegovoj sada već viševekovnoj popularnosti i aktuelnosti, već u ogromnom značaju u svetskoj popularnoj kulturi. Nijedan fiktivni junak nije izvršio toliki uticaj na svet književnosti, filma i televizije. Holms je uticao na pojavu raznih drugih akcionih junaka od doktora Hausa, pa do danas megapopularnih američkih serija o forenzičarima. Jedna od najbitnijih osobina ovog junaka je s jedne strane njegova misterioznost, dok s druge strane imamo heroja koji vidi više nego drugi i kroz maglu obmana i tajni stiže nepogrešivo do istine. Holms je ličnost puna kontradikcija. U istragama do izražaja dolazi njegova sistematičnost izvedena do perfekcije. Njegovo precizno proučavanje mesta zločina na kojima traži male znake koji ga vode do krajnjeg rešenja danas se ističe kao veliki značaj na razvoj forenzičarske nauke. Istovremeno, njegov privatni život često se utapa u potpuni nered, a raspoloženja se menjaju od euforije do velike melanholije u kojoj je u svojoj sobi u Bejker stritu često konzumirao morfijum i kokain.
Sve ono što je krasilo literarnog Holmsa, počelo je da se prebacuje i na film. U prvoj američkoj filmskoj verziji iz 1916. godine popularnog detektiva je igrao Vilijam Džilet, a od 1939. godine ga tumači Bazil Retboun u čak 14 filmova.
Popularnost Holmsa bila je tolika da iako je ovaj junak istorijski smešten u viktorijansku Englesku, to nije smetalo režiserima da mu život produže do Drugog svetskog rata. Nacizam je bio opasan, Prle i Tihi su bili zauzeti u Beogradu, a ko bi mogao da pobedi Hitlera ako ne Šerlok Holms.a
Uticaj
Od Boba Roka do ,,Nindža kornjača"
l Bob Rok iz stripa ,,Alan Ford" ima ogrtač i kapu kao Šerlok Holms
l Šerlok Holms je prvi detektiv i jedan od prvih akcionih junaka koji je koristio kokain
l U američkoj kriminalističkoj seriji ,,Zakon i red", lik detektiva Roberta Gorena zasnovan je na Šerloku Holmsu
l Šerlok Holms i njegov smrtni neprijatelj profesor Morijarti pojavljuju se u crtanoj seriji ,,Nindža kornjače"
l U jednoj od epizoda forenzičarskog televizijskog hita ,,CSI", koja se zove ,,Ko je ubio Šerloka?", istražitelji se bave slučajem ubistva glumca koji igra Šerloka Holmsa
l Inspiracija za Šerlokovog najvećeg neprijatelja profesora Morijartija je Adam Vort, stvarni kriminalac iz tog vremena kojeg je Skotland Jard nazvao ,,Napoleonom zločina"
Sigurno je da je najveći pečat ekranizovanom liku dao engleski glumac Džeremi Bret koji je godinama pod lupom tražio tragove zločina u popularnoj TV seriji o slavnom detektivu, koja se godinama sa uspehom prikazivala i u Srbiji. Bret je bio tradicionalni Holms, tajanstven, elegantan, ciničan i filigranski precizan na mestu zločina, od kojeg se u pauzama odmarao uz sviranje violine i kokain. Njegov redovni inventar u Bejker stritu činili su lula, špric u fioci i slika Irene Adler na stolu, njegove najveće ljubavi, žene koja je jedina uspela da nadmudri Holmsa, i to u dva navrata.
Mnogi su mislili da je Bret tačka na Šerloka i da će retko kome uspeti da lik čuvenog detektiva transportuje na filmsko platno, a onda je sve fanove iznenadio film Gaja Ričija koji je umnogome transformisao uvreženu predstavu o najpoznatijem stanovniku ulice Bejker. Riči je ubrizgao džejmsbondovsku infuziju u lik tradicionalnog Holmsa. Ričijev Šerlok ne odriče se violine, Irene Adler, kokaina, ali odbacuje uzdržanost tradicionalnog Dojlovog junaka i slobodno vreme obogaćuje boksom u ilegalnim arenama.
Riči je ulogu najpoznatijeg narkomana među detektivima dodelio najpoznatijem glumcu među narkomanima - Robertu Dauniju Džunioru, vlasniku najkontroverznije holivudske biografije u kojoj sve puca od pištolja, izdržavanja zatvorskih kazni, tuča i odvaljivanja od alkohola i narkotika, što mu umalo nije zapečatilo karijeru. Ali to se nije dogodilo, i ovaj glumac još jednom to dokazuje kroz upravo dobijeni Zlatni globus za ulogu Holmsa. Dauni je kao Holms briljantan, a vrlo rizičan potez udaljavanja od klasičnog Šerlok imidža savlađuje bez greške. U Ričijevoj verziji, Holms ostaje bez čuvene kape, ali u zubima mu je i dalje lula. Više nije sterilno hladan već zubima otvara flašu vina, a jedino je kokain sveden na najmanju moguću meru.
U jeku slave u kojoj uživa novi filmski Šerlok, a zbog jedne Daunijeve izjave, upravo se oglasilo ,,Društvo Šerloka Holmsa" koje, pored izdavanja knjiga, časopisa, kao i organizovanja ekskurzija za sve poštovaoce londonskog detektiva, pomno prati sve ono što falsifikuje ,,pravi" život Holmsa ili pokušava da uprlja obraz i karirani ogrtač njihovog ljubimca. Tako je i nedavna šala glumca Roberta Daunija Džuniora, tokom gostovanja u popularnom televizijskom šouu ,,Late Show with David Letterman", da je verenica dr Votsona samo paravan za homoseksualni odnos između dvojice junaka, naterala ,,Društvo Šerloka Holmsa" da se oglasi i da upozori Daunija da pazi šta priča, a režisera Gaja Ričija da se drži ,,istorijskih" činjenica po kojima je detektiv pod plaštom već svetski poznat.
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Zanimljivo je da je popularnost Holmsa bila toliko velika da, iako je ovaj junak istorijski smešten u viktorijansku Englesku, to nije smetalo režiserima da mu život produže do Drugog svetskog rata. Nacizam je bio opasan, Prle i Tihi su bili zauzeti u Beogradu, a ko bi mogao da pobedi Hitlera ako ne Šerlok Holms
- Originalni Šerlok Holms je viktorijanski detektiv koji je suštinski aseksualan, lišen erotskog zanimanja za žene, dok je njegov pajtaš dr Votson ljubitelj žena, ali veran svojoj supruzi - stoji u saopštenju ,,Društva Šerloka Holmsa", koje je potpisao Rodžer Džonson.
Istovremeno je i Andrea Planket, vlasnica prava na dela Artura Konana Dojla, izrazila nezadovoljstvo zbog izjava Roberta Daunija Džuniora o mogućem koketiranju s gej stranom Šerloka Holmsa.
- Nadam se da je to samo Daunijev smisao za humor. Ukoliko bi režiser dozvolio nešto tako drastično, bila bih primorana da povučem dozvolu za snimanje filma o Šerloku Holmsu. Jedini razlog zbog kojeg bih to učinila nije homofobija, već pogrešno prikazivanje događaja i odstupanje od istine i prave priče - rekla je Andrea.
Na kraju, najbolju definiciju večne popularnosti Šerloka Holmsa dao je upravo Robert Dauni Džunior:
- Šerlok je prvi pravi superheroj. On je jedna od najprepoznatljivijih ikona na zemlji. Njegov značaj je toliko velik da o tome možda najbolje govori činjenica da i danas ima mnogo ljudi koji veruju da je on zaista postojao.
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Odgledo ovo, odgledo Wolfmana i ne mogu se oslobodim utiska da bi Hugo Weaving bio idealan Morijarti....a neki shiznuti sajdkik Stormare....
Pricha se da ce Morijarti biti Bred Pit.
Quote from: Le Samourai on 12-03-2010, 20:10:14
Pricha se da ce Morijarti biti Bred Pit.
Quote from: Le Samourai on 12-03-2010, 20:10:14
Pricha se da ce Morijarti biti Bred Pit.
.... e jebi ga....
е, јеби га стварно...као и увек одгледао сам га са закашњењем, забаван је за гледање, ниједног тренутка се нисам сморио, осим...готивим ја Роберта Даунија, али ипак ми некако није шерлоковски лик, а Џад Лоу опет ми делује премладо за оно како ја замишљам Вотсона. Један је (био) Џереми Брет, али ипак филм добро функционише и овако.
Meni se nije svidio ovaj Šerlok. Likovi su OK, ali priča je beznadežno bezvezna. Jedino što je moglo da spasi stvar jeste neki supernaturalni twist, koji se naravno nije dogodio. I na kraju kad se sve završilo, reko sam sebi u svom srcu: "Dođavola, pa upravo sam pogledo jedno veliko NIŠTA!"
Film je žešće sranje. Jedini Sherlock Holmes film gdje cijelu misteriju znaš odmah na početku. Odmah se zna da je negativac živ, da bi svejedno uslijedilo dvosatno natezanje u otkrivanju toga, itd. itd... Tako simplificiran plot još nije viđen. Taj novi steampunk imidž ne doprinosi nikakvom iskoraku, ne fascninira ni najmanje. Dijalozi, prizemni, diletantski, totalno nezanimljivi, svode se na nekakvo šaputanje, frajeriziranje s tim engleskim naglaskom. Akcija, samo dosadno hrvanje i pokoja generična tuča. Rasplet - počelo s nećim nadnaravnim, da bi uslijedila racionalizacija i banalizacija; i još strašno originalna ideja o zlom aristokratu, s time da ima i dobrih aristokrata, radi političke korektonosti, jelte, kao ono, ako je Rus "negativac", mora biti jedan Rus američki špijun, prejadno... Ženska glumica - dosta ružna, nemam ništa protiv ružnijih žena, nego je ona tu postavljena s mišlju da je lijepa. Gluma - živi prosjek, ja ne znam tko se može uživjeti u te likove, posebice u Holmesa odjevenog onako ležerno i s gelom u kosi. Humor - bože sačuvaj (osim - Bager - jednom liku ime Bager u 19. st. Najiritantnije je ono kad Holmes sumira svoja zapažanja, izgleda tobože ingeniozno, a zapravo je jeftino do boli, sigurno scenaristima nije trebalo više od 3 minuta da povežu nešto tipa: fleka na maramici, pepel iz lule, kaplja znoja = znači to i to... Znam, znam, ironija, ali meni ispada bljutavo. Jedino pozitivno je vizualno okruženje koje kolko tolko spašava steampunk ugođaj i ugođaj 19. st.. 4/10 Da budem iskren, nisam ništa bolje ni očekivao od Guya Ritchea.
Изгледа да сте имали превелика очекивања...што се тиче лепоте/ружноће оне што глуми Ирену Адлер(а ваљда Кеп. Дик мисли на њу), ипак је то скроз субјективно, на тренутке ми је била слаткаста, на тренутке без везе, зависно од ситуације и кадра...па, побогу, говоримо о једној Британки! :lol: Ипак, слажем се да су Шерлокове дедукције биле углавном провидне и наивне, ни трага ономе што смо навикли из књига/серија или старих филмова.
Ma ovo je samo varijacija na temu Šerloka Holmsa, nikako ozbiljan, pravi Šerlok.
Kao što Greystoke Hju Hadsona nije "pravi" Tarzan ili Drakula Mela Bruksa, Popaj Roberta Altmana ili Philip Marlowe od istog reditelja u The Long Goodbye itd.
Ух, није ли ипак мало претерано стављати на исту раван Дракулу Мела Брукса и Шерлока Холмса Гаја Ричија?
Samo malo.
Quote from: Savajat Erp on 10-09-2010, 00:12:02
Ух, није ли ипак мало претерано стављати на исту раван Дракулу Мела Брукса и Шерлока Холмса Гаја Ричија?
Pa naravno. Bruksov Drakula je odličan film, za razliku od ovog drugog.
Swedish actress Noomi Rapace ("The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo") has signed on to play the lead female role in Guy Ritchie's upcoming "Sherlock Holmes" sequel for Warner Bros. Pictures says The Hollywood Reporter.
Details of the plot are being kept under wraps, though it's known that this time Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.) and Dr. Watson (Jude Law) will be squaring off against his longtime nemesis Moriarty. Holmes' brother Mycroft will also appear, though neither of those latter two roles has yet been cast.
Rapace's character is also unclear, though she's rumored to play a French Gypsy with a connection to at least one of the characters. Joel Silver, Susan Downey, Lionel Wigram, and Dan Lin will produce.
Shooting is scheduled to kick off later this year for release Christmas next year.
eto je noomi, a ima i baritsua, air guna, artiljerije, tarota, burleske, crvenih mundira...
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Boring.
R.D.J je genije! :)
Genije ili ne, ovo cu gledati samo zbog Noomi i njenog slabasnog poprsja. Mucenje iz prvog dela jos provejava kroz hodnike secanja... xdrinka
morijarti mi se nikako ne dopada.
Sjajno.