Broj maloletnih devojčica koje se udaju u siromašnim zemljama sveta uskoro će dostići čak 100 miliona.
Prema izveštaju humanitarne organizacije "World Vision", koji prenosi Rojters, globalna kriza hrane još više pogoršava situaciju i primorava porodice iz zemalja u razvoju da udaju svoje mlade kćerke da bi ublažile siromaštvo.
Procenjuje se da se svakoga dana u svetu 3.500 devojčica uda pre svog 15-og rođendana, a još 21.000 pre nego što napuni 18 godina. Taj broj će, kako veruju stručnjaci, samo naglo da se uveća narednih godina.
Devojčicima nevestama preti mnogo veća opasnost da budu povređene ili da umru pri rađanju zbog toga što su im tela nedovoljno razvijena.
"Komplikacije pri rađanju su najrasprostranjenije u toj starosnoj grupi i značajno povećavaju rizik od smrti, preranog porođaja, smrtnosti odojčadi i niske težine novorođenčeta", navodi se u izveštaju organizacije.
Iako je udaja maloletnica zabeležena u celom svetu, čak i u bogatim zemljama, najrasprostranjenija je u podsaharshoj Africi, južnoj Aziji i delovima centralne Amerike.
Najviše stope dečjih venčanja zabeležene su u Bangladešu gde se skoro 53 odsto devojčica udaje pre nego što napuni 15 godina, zatim sledi Niger sa skoro 38 odsto, Čad sa 35 odsto i Etiopija i Indija sa po 31 odsto.
"Ova praksa je najčešća u sredinama gde je najveća beda pomešana sa kulturnim tradicijama i nedostatkom obrazovanja", navodi se u izveštaju.
Još jedan problem je što su deca neveste primorane na seksualne odnose pre nego što su im tela spremna i malo njih ima pristup sredstvima za kontracepciju i savetovanjima o zdravlju.
Nasilni seksualni odnosi stvaraju oštećenja zbog kojih su te devojčice podložnije dobijanju seksualno prenosivih bolesti preko muža.
U izveštaju se naglašava da je podizanje svesti javnosti o ovoj pojavi ključno za zaustavljanje udaje devojčica i dodaje da u tome veliku ulogu mogu da odigraju škole i specijalizovane radionice, koje bi se organizovale u osetljivim sredinama.
Takođe je važno da se radi sa plemenskim vođama i drugim članovima zajednice da osiguraju da članovi tih porodica imaju način da se prehrane i da zarade za život, odnosno da ne moraju da pribegavaju udavanju svojih maloletnih kćerki, dodaje se u izveštaju.
od 6 milijardi koliko ima stanovnika neatlanski svijet, samo 100 miliona su pedofili. Pa to nije ništa.
Ali dobro, technicly, pedofil je samo onaj kojeg seksualno uzbuđuju potpuno nerazvijene žene(bez oblina i menstruacije), odnosno djevojčice. Onaj koga uzbuđuju petnaestogodišnjakinje jeste perverzan, ali nije pedofil, pošto su one već ušle u pubertet.
Naravno, žalosno je što se uopšte takve stvari događaju, ali zna se ko je uništio ekonomiju tih zemalja - Evropske kolonijalne imperije.
P.S. Rusija je tokom devedesetih izgubila barem 600 000 mladih Ruskinja koje su se udale u jebenoj Turskoj, ali to nikad nije vijest dana. Možda zato što i mi proživljavamo jeljcinovsku tranziciju...
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Ali dobro, technicly, pedofil je samo onaj kojeg seksualno uzbuđuju potpuno nerazvijene žene(bez oblina i menstruacije), odnosno djevojčice. Onaj koga uzbuđuju petnaestogodišnjakinje jeste perverzan, ali nije pedofil, pošto su one već ušle u pubertet.
zaista zanimljiva 'definicija' pedofila: šteta samo što je to neka tvoja privatna, a ne opšteprihvaćena, inače ne bi sirotog romana polanskog ameri i sad, 3 decenije kasnije, još uvek tražili što je imo sex sa curicom koja je sigurno imala i obline i sve što treba.
+ zaboravljaš da u tu grupu spadaju i oni koje uzbuđuju dečaci, što znatno uvećava već ionako golemi broj (mada meni nije poznato da negde postoji large-scale institucionalizovana boyofilia na način na koji postoji ovo masovno legalno taslačenje devojčica u zemljama gorepominjanim).
Ja to čuo na RTSu :lol:
možda oni lažu, ili važi samo za Srbiju, da seks sa maloljetnicom nije krivično djelo, osim ako nije riječ o djevojčici.
Ja sam mislio da Polanskog traže zbog silovanja?
Inače, njihovi zakoni su, ono, against sexual conduct with a minor. To nije pedofilija, nego seks sa maloljetnicima. Pedofilija je seks sa fizički nepodobnim ljudskim bićem, dakle prije puberteta.
Naravno da su ljubitelji dječaka možda još brojniji... ne znam zašto nikog ne zanima ova tema :lol:
evo, sad nađoh za Polanskog
Polanski was initially charged with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor, but these charges were dismissed under the terms of his plea bargain, and he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"možda oni lažu, ili važi samo za Srbiju, da seks sa maloljetnicom nije krivično djelo, osim ako nije riječ o djevojčici.
Seks sa
maloletnicom koja je dečak bi bio vrlo zanimljiv, možda bi i vredelo otići u zatvor zbog njega :lol:
No, anyway, ako se nešto nije promenilo u našem zakonodavstvu u poslednje dve godine (a sumnjam da jeste), u Srbiji je seks sa osobom mlađom od 14 godina, bez obzira na pol ilegalan, a preko 14 legalan, sem ako nije u pitanju homoeksualni odnos, gde se granica pomera na 18.
Maloljetnica može biti djevojčica i djevojka. Prvo je pedofilija, drugo nije.
Quoteu Srbiji je seks sa osobom mlađom od 14 godina, bez obzira na pol ilegalan
ove osnovne i srednje škole su leglo kriminala :lol:
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"u Srbiji je seks sa osobom mlađom od 14 godina, bez obzira na pol ilegalan, a preko 14 legalan, sem ako nije u pitanju homoeksualni odnos, gde se granica pomera na 18.
proveri ti to, meho, da se ne ustručavamo bezveze i ograničavamo na toliko matore ako ne moramo: naime, čuo sam da je za gay sex age limit u srbiji spušten na 16!
Pričate gluposti. Ili to, ili se zezate, a ja sam suviše nerazbuđen da bih to shvatio.
Ja sam, igrom slučaja, učestvovao u nizu akcija koje su imale za cilj podizanje granica seksualnih sloboda. Čak je i do ovog foruma došla vest (doduše, potpuno netačna i iskrivljena) da sam išao po Knez Mihajlovoj obučen kao policajac i tukao devojčice pendrekom, govoreći im da ne smeju da imaju seks.
Quote from: "DušMan"Čak je i do ovog foruma došla vest (doduše, potpuno netačna i iskrivljena) da sam išao po Knez Mihajlovoj obučen kao policajac i tukao devojčice pendrekom, govoreći im da ne smeju da imaju seks.
do mene je ta vest došla u zaista iskrivljenoj verziji, prema kojoj si po knezu išao maskiran u kineza koji je mačetom pretio prolaznicima: 'ako se jebete, odseći ću vam ga!' a za primer si neke, navodno, i recnuo...
misliš, išao po čuvenoj kinez mihajlovoj?
jebeš ovaj svecki prosek, nego, gule, reci ti nama kakvo je stanje u Niškoj Banji? Sudeći po klijenteli, pre bi se očekivala gerantoakcija i nekrofilija, ali valjda ti imaš informacije iz prve ruke.
Ne pitam ovo bezveze; ponekad tast odvede moje dete tamo da se izigra; čisto da znam šta može da ga snađe i ko je od njih dvoje u većoj opasnosti.
pa baš zbog prekobrojnih staraca mislim da su đeca u banji više ugrožena – ko i svaka manjina! :lol:
u svakom slučaju, ako se desi neki neželjeni incident, ja ne mogu da zamislim da u konačnom sudu ti ne budeš proglašen za krivca a onda se zna šta sledi. Ili kao što reče glavni negativac iz mog novog romana: "Sve ću vas potamaniti. Tvoj sin će pre zalaska sunca biti zauvek odagnan u ništavilo. Ovu crkvu ću da sravnim sa zemljom i temelje ću da joj iskopam i dva metra ispod temelja, jezero će ovde biti. Sve kuće ću da srušim u selu, ostaću onoliko dugo dok sve ne razorim, sve ljude ne pobijem, silujem ili pojedem... ovo groblje ovde ću da raskopam i sve ostatke da pobacam u reku kao što sam tebe zavrljačio. Živinu i stoku ću da popalim. Ništa neće ostati ovde, niti jedno drvo, goreće sva brda okolo i na kraju, na smrdljivom zgarištu svega, dovući ću tebe i ima da te jebem dok ne izdahneš i još ceo dan posle toga!"
Quote from: "Boban"u svakom slučaju, ako se desi neki neželjeni incident, ja ne mogu da zamislim da u konačnom sudu ti ne budeš proglašen za krivca a onda se zna šta sledi. Ili kao što reče glavni negativac iz mog novog romana: "Sve ću vas potamaniti. Tvoj sin će pre zalaska sunca biti zauvek odagnan u ništavilo. Ovu crkvu ću da sravnim sa zemljom i temelje ću da joj iskopam i dva metra ispod temelja, jezero će ovde biti. Sve kuće ću da srušim u selu, ostaću onoliko dugo dok sve ne razorim, sve ljude ne pobijem, silujem ili pojedem... ovo groblje ovde ću da raskopam i sve ostatke da pobacam u reku kao što sam tebe zavrljačio. Živinu i stoku ću da popalim. Ništa neće ostati ovde, niti jedno drvo, goreće sva brda okolo i na kraju, na smrdljivom zgarištu svega, dovući ću tebe i ima da te jebem dok ne izdahneš i još ceo dan posle toga!"
Roman je autobiografski?
sasvim liči na bobana da u autobiografskom romanu negativca oblikuje po sebi.
uostalom, to je na neki način uradio i u CRNOM CVETU sa svojim anti-herojem...
:roll: 8) :evil:
Ex-teacher says middle schooler was a man to her
OMAHA, Neb. - A former math teacher sentenced to federal prison for a sex crime with a minor says the age of the 13-year-old schoolboy she fled with to Mexico didn't matter to her.
"We didn't see age anymore. ... In my mind he quit being a teenage boy. ... to me, he was a man," Kelsey Peterson said in a taped interview on ABC's "Good Morning America" aired Wednesday.
Peterson, 26, was sentenced Monday to six years in federal prison and five years of supervised release. She also must register as a sex offender. She pleaded guilty in July to a charge of transporting a minor across state lines to have sex.
Peterson was the boy's sixth-grade math teacher at Lexington Middle School in south-central Nebraska during the 2005-06 school year and started having sex with him in November 2006, according to court documents.
The pair disappeared in October, soon after the district's superintendent confronted Peterson about allegations of an inappropriate relationship with the boy.
She was arrested a week later in Mexicali, Mexico, after the boy made a cell phone call to his family.
Peterson still faces state charges that include kidnapping, felony child abuse and first-degree sexual assault. Dawson County Attorney Elizabeth Waterman said Monday that her staff will work to get custody of Peterson so she can face those charges.
Peterson said in the ABC interview that she was drawn to the boy, then 12, and thought to herself, "I can change this guy." She said her actions were wildly out of line with her upbringing in a Christian household.
She had expected to grow up and get married, she said, then have children and live in a house with a picket fence.
"I made choice after choice after choice that didn't allow that," Peterson said.
In a separate interview, her attorney, James Martin Davis, blamed the boy. Davis has publicly questioned the boy's age, saying he was likely at least 16, despite Mexican documents and statements from the boy's family.
The Associated Press previously named the boy as police were searching for him but stopped using his name after authorities charged Peterson with a sex crime.
Peterson also expressed remorse for how her actions have affected her family and especially her 9-year-old daughter.
"She was my life," Peterson said. "I owe her more apologies than I can ever give."
Quote from: "Boban""Sve ću vas potamaniti. Tvoj sin će pre zalaska sunca biti zauvek odagnan u ništavilo. Ovu crkvu ću da sravnim sa zemljom i temelje ću da joj iskopam i dva metra ispod temelja, jezero će ovde biti. Sve kuće ću da srušim u selu, ostaću onoliko dugo dok sve ne razorim, sve ljude ne pobijem, silujem ili pojedem... ovo groblje ovde ću da raskopam i sve ostatke da pobacam u reku kao što sam tebe zavrljačio. Živinu i stoku ću da popalim. Ništa neće ostati ovde, niti jedno drvo, goreće sva brda okolo i na kraju, na smrdljivom zgarištu svega, dovući ću tebe i ima da te jebem dok ne izdahneš i još ceo dan posle toga!"
Ghoul bi sve to preziveo, zilava je to vrsta.
BTW, ova tema je ostala na forumu i ako isti, kao sto rece Meho, "posecuju deca i porodicni ljudi". Tema koju sam ja postavio, i post koji sam u nju ubacio (nevini crtani film koji se moze podvesti pod cisto SF umetnicko delo), zavrsio je na deponiji. Radi se o neprikrivenoj diskriminaciji, dapače, pokazivanju otvorene netrpeljivosti prema novom clanu ovog foruma, mojoj malenkosti.
Predlazem da i ova tema, na kojoj dominiraju rasprave o karanju malih decaka, zavrsi na deponiji, a da onaj koji ju je postavio bude ostro ukoren, da mu
takve stvari vise ne bi padale na pamet...
predlažem ti da se ne upuštaš u procene rada administracije ovog foruma jer to ni oni koji rade ne mogu da rastumače.
Znaš li kako je Stiven King stekao slavu?
Bio je nepoznat prosečni pisac dok neko, sastavljajući listu nepoželjnih knjiga za omladinu, nije pomenuo i njegov roman "Keri". Svi su pojurili da vide šta je i praktično svi pisci sa te liste su bili na dobitku. Što reče King, pre objavljivanja liste, u lokalnoj biblioteci "Keri" nije bila uzeta nijednom, a nakon toga su je ljudi doslovno rastrgli.
Šta hoću da kažem?
Pomeranje na Deponiju samo može da stavi u fokus tvoje postove, nikako da ih prepusti zaboravu, što je sudbina ovih gulovih žalopojki na temu nedovoljnog broja dece koja bi mu se podala.
Potpuno jasno Bobane, izdejstvovati da te "administracija" sibne na deponiju je marketing za medalju. Opet, ne mogu a da ne primetim da na ovom forumu aktivno ucestvuje 5-6 normalnih ucesnika, i jedan Ghoul, sto je malo ako imamo u vidu to da postoji oko 900 prijavljenih. Dakle, "nemih posmatraca" koliko volis. Kada bismo, na primer, Meho i ja prestali da pisemo, broj postova bi se smanjio za polovinu, bilo bi dana kada ne bi osvanuo ni jedan novi post. Razbezali bi se svi nemi posmatraci, ostao bi Ghoul, sam. A sa kim bi onda diskutovao o kresanju decaka???
Postojanje "apsolutnog slaganja" u svemu, nije ideja na kojoj treba da "zivi" i da opstaje bilo koji forum. Ovde se to ocekuje od ucesnika, ali, problem je u tome sto, da biste opstali ovde, morate da budete "dobri" ili sa Ghoulom (sto je sranje), ili sa matorim scallopom (sto je jos vece sranje). Ne mozete da postignete skladan "odnos" i sa jednim i sa drugim, jer ga oni medju sobom nemaju. Ima tu nekih koji se trude da to postignu, ali, na kraju, uvek ostanu trudni...
Mene, u stvari, boli uvo, ja se ovde dobro zabavljam, da li se moji postovi i teme koje sam postavio, dopadaju nekim ovdasnjim "kriticarima", meni je zaista nebitno. Ipak, siguran sam u to da ih citaju medju prvima upravo oni koji me najvise "napusavaju" ovde. Onda im se digne zivac, pa odgovore... cesto vrlo "seljacki", a prodaju se za neke profesore, umetnike, knjizevnike.... E, to je prava stvar, zbog toga sam ovde.
eh što naše učiteljice nisu ovakve...
Quote from: "Albedo 0"eh što naše učiteljice nisu ovakve...
nigga please?!
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fmedia%2Fphoto%2F2007-11%2F34035705.jpg&hash=609975fdc61461a9deb0ba4d54f416f77766f658)
e jebiga :lol:
ja zamišljao nešto sasvim drugo... dakle ovo ima 26 godina i devetogodišnju ćerku...
Ma, kad imaš 13 godina, sasvim prihvatljivo... Ma, šta 13, ja bih to odradio za simboličnu naknadu (cena vijagre i penicilin shota) i u ovim godinama...
Quote from: "Albedo 0"od 6 milijardi koliko ima stanovnika neatlanski svijet, samo 100 miliona su pedofili. Pa to nije ništa.
Hm
Ovde isplivavaju i neki prikriveni, neobuhvaceni istrazivanjima, tako da je, cini se, brojka od 100 miliona znatno veca. Slicno kao sa procenama broja narkomana
Meho brate, izgleda kao serijski ubica, trebaće ti mnogo više od penicilina :lol:
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tragac, mislim da je broj pedofila nešto ispod 3% u modernim društvima, isto zvaničan broj. Uzmi da ih ukupno ima 3%, u 6 milijardi to ti je 180 miliona. S tim što je tamo to uslovljeno i kulturom, dok npr na Zapadu, kad se zna da je to zabranjeno, a opet ih ima 3%, pa to je da se zapitaš....
Quote from: "Ghoul"Ex-teacher says middle schooler was a man to her
OMAHA, Neb. - A former math teacher sentenced to federal prison for a sex crime with a minor says the age of the 13-year-old schoolboy she fled with to Mexico didn't matter to her.
"We didn't see age anymore. ... In my mind he quit being a teenage boy. ... to me, he was a man," Kelsey Peterson said in a taped interview on ABC's "Good Morning America" aired Wednesday.
Peterson, 26, was sentenced Monday to six years in federal prison and five years of supervised release. She also must register as a sex offender. She pleaded guilty in July to a charge of transporting a minor across state lines to have sex.
Peterson was the boy's sixth-grade math teacher at Lexington Middle School in south-central Nebraska during the 2005-06 school year and started having sex with him in November 2006, according to court documents.
The pair disappeared in October, soon after the district's superintendent confronted Peterson about allegations of an inappropriate relationship with the boy.
She was arrested a week later in Mexicali, Mexico, after the boy made a cell phone call to his family.
Peterson still faces state charges that include kidnapping, felony child abuse and first-degree sexual assault. Dawson County Attorney Elizabeth Waterman said Monday that her staff will work to get custody of Peterson so she can face those charges.
Peterson said in the ABC interview that she was drawn to the boy, then 12, and thought to herself, "I can change this guy." She said her actions were wildly out of line with her upbringing in a Christian household.
She had expected to grow up and get married, she said, then have children and live in a house with a picket fence.
"I made choice after choice after choice that didn't allow that," Peterson said.
In a separate interview, her attorney, James Martin Davis, blamed the boy. Davis has publicly questioned the boy's age, saying he was likely at least 16, despite Mexican documents and statements from the boy's family.
The Associated Press previously named the boy as police were searching for him but stopped using his name after authorities charged Peterson with a sex crime.
Peterson also expressed remorse for how her actions have affected her family and especially her 9-year-old daughter.
"She was my life," Peterson said. "I owe her more apologies than I can ever give."
Значи по овоме је она епизода South Park-a, Teacher Bangs A Student? И легендарна изјава пандура:"Damn, where were all that sexed up teachers when I was a kid?!" 8)
Framed for child porn — by a PC virus
* By JORDAN ROBERTSON, AP Technology Writer - Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:10AM EST
Of all the sinister things that Internet viruses do, this might be the worst: They can make you an unsuspecting collector of child pornography.
Heinous pictures and videos can be deposited on computers by viruses — the malicious programs better known for swiping your credit card numbers. In this twist, it's your reputation that's stolen.
Pedophiles can exploit virus-infected PCs to remotely store and view their stash without fear they'll get caught. Pranksters or someone trying to frame you can tap viruses to make it appear that you surf illegal Web sites.
Whatever the motivation, you get child porn on your computer — and might not realize it until police knock at your door.
An Associated Press investigation found cases in which innocent people have been branded as pedophiles after their co-workers or loved ones stumbled upon child porn placed on a PC through a virus. It can cost victims hundreds of thousands of dollars to prove their innocence.
Their situations are complicated by the fact that actual pedophiles often blame viruses — a defense rightfully viewed with skepticism by law enforcement.
"It's an example of the old `dog ate my homework' excuse," says Phil Malone, director of the Cyberlaw Clinic at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet & Society. "The problem is, sometimes the dog does eat your homework."
The AP's investigation included interviewing people who had been found with child porn on their computers. The AP reviewed court records and spoke to prosecutors, police and computer examiners.
One case involved Michael Fiola, a former investigator with the Massachusetts agency that oversees workers' compensation.
In 2007, Fiola's bosses became suspicious after the Internet bill for his state-issued laptop showed that he used 4 1/2 times more data than his colleagues. A technician found child porn in the PC folder that stores images viewed online.
Fiola was fired and charged with possession of child pornography, which carries up to five years in prison. He endured death threats, his car tires were slashed and he was shunned by friends.
Fiola and his wife fought the case, spending $250,000 on legal fees. They liquidated their savings, took a second mortgage and sold their car.
An inspection for his defense revealed the laptop was severely infected. It was programmed to visit as many as 40 child porn sites per minute — an inhuman feat. While Fiola and his wife were out to dinner one night, someone logged on to the computer and porn flowed in for an hour and a half.
Prosecutors performed another test and confirmed the defense findings. The charge was dropped — 11 months after it was filed.
The Fiolas say they have health problems from the stress of the case. They say they've talked to dozens of lawyers but can't get one to sue the state, because of a cap on the amount they can recover.
"It ruined my life, my wife's life and my family's life," he says.
The Massachusetts attorney general's office, which charged Fiola, declined interview requests.
At any moment, about 20 million of the estimated 1 billion Internet-connected PCs worldwide are infected with viruses that could give hackers full control, according to security software maker F-Secure Corp. Computers often get infected when people open e-mail attachments from unknown sources or visit a malicious Web page.
Pedophiles can tap viruses in several ways. The simplest is to force someone else's computer to surf child porn sites, collecting images along the way. Or a computer can be made into a warehouse for pictures and videos that can be viewed remotely when the PC is online.
"They're kind of like locusts that descend on a cornfield: They eat up everything in sight and they move on to the next cornfield," says Eric Goldman, academic director of the High Tech Law Institute at Santa Clara University. Goldman has represented Web companies that discovered child pornographers were abusing their legitimate services.
But pedophiles need not be involved: Child porn can land on a computer in a sick prank or an attempt to frame the PC's owner.
In the first publicly known cases of individuals being victimized, two men in the United Kingdom were cleared in 2003 after viruses were shown to have been responsible for the child porn on their PCs.
In one case, an infected e-mail or pop-up ad poisoned a defense contractor's PC and downloaded the offensive pictures.
In the other, a virus changed the home page on a man's Web browser to display child porn, a discovery made by his 7-year-old daughter. The man spent more than a week in jail and three months in a halfway house, and lost custody of his daughter.
Chris Watts, a computer examiner in Britain, says he helped clear a hotel manager whose co-workers found child porn on the PC they shared with him.
Watts found that while surfing the Internet for ways to play computer games without paying for them, the manager had visited a site for pirated software. It redirected visitors to child porn sites if they were inactive for a certain period.
In all these cases, the central evidence wasn't in dispute: Pornography was on a computer. But proving how it got there was difficult.
Tami Loehrs, who inspected Fiola's computer, recalls a case in Arizona in which a computer was so "extensively infected" that it would be "virtually impossible" to prove what an indictment alleged: that a 16-year-old who used the PC had uploaded child pornography to a Yahoo group.
Prosecutors dropped the charge and let the boy plead guilty to a separate crime that kept him out of jail, though they say they did it only because of his age and lack of a criminal record.
Many prosecutors say blaming a computer virus for child porn is a new version of an old ploy.
"We call it the SODDI defense: Some Other Dude Did It," says James Anderson, a federal prosecutor in Wyoming.
However, forensic examiners say it would be hard for a pedophile to get away with his crime by using a bogus virus defense.
"I personally would feel more comfortable investing my retirement in the lottery before trying to defend myself with that," says forensics specialist Jeff Fischbach.
Even careful child porn collectors tend to leave incriminating e-mails, DVDs or other clues. Virus defenses are no match for such evidence, says Damon King, trial attorney for the U.S. Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.
But while the virus defense does not appear to be letting real pedophiles out of trouble, there have been cases in which forensic examiners insist that legitimate claims did not get completely aired.
Loehrs points to Ned Solon of Casper, Wyo., who is serving six years for child porn found in a folder used by a file-sharing program on his computer.
Solon admits he used the program to download video games and adult porn — but not child porn. So what could explain that material?
Loehrs testified that Solon's antivirus software wasn't working properly and appeared to have shut off for long stretches, a sign of an infection. She found no evidence the five child porn videos on Solon's computer had been viewed or downloaded fully. The porn was in a folder the file-sharing program labeled as "incomplete" because the downloads were canceled or generated an error.
This defense was curtailed, however, when Loehrs ended her investigation in a dispute with the judge over her fees. Computer exams can cost tens of thousands of dollars. Defendants can ask the courts to pay, but sometimes judges balk at the price. Although Loehrs stopped working for Solon, she argues he is innocent.
"I don't think it was him, I really don't," Loehrs says. "There was too much evidence that it wasn't him."
The prosecution's forensics expert, Randy Huff, maintains that Solon's antivirus software was working properly. And he says he ran other antivirus programs on the computer and didn't find an infection — although security experts say antivirus scans frequently miss things.
"He actually had a very clean computer compared to some of the other cases I do," Huff says.
The jury took two hours to convict Solon.
"Everybody feels they're innocent in prison. Nobody believes me because that's what everybody says," says Solon, whose case is being appealed. "All I know is I did not do it. I never put the stuff on there. I never saw the stuff on there. I can only hope that someday the truth will come out."
But can it? It can be impossible to tell with certainty how a file got onto a PC.
"Computers are not to be trusted," says Jeremiah Grossman, founder of WhiteHat Security Inc. He describes it as "painfully simple" to get a computer to download something the owner doesn't want — whether it's a program that displays ads or one that stores illegal pictures.
It's possible, Grossman says, that more illicit material is waiting to be discovered.
"Just because it's there doesn't mean the person intended for it to be there — whatever it is, child porn included."
prije detaljnije analize trebalo bi dokazati hipotezu da glupa djeca postaju manje glupi odrasli.
postoji li razlika izmedju "kupit cu ti bombona" i "kupit cu ti cipkaste gacice"?
Ako je razrešena konfuzija oko maloletničkih brakova ipedofilije,moglo bi se ponešto reći i o izveštaju World Vision kako je ovde citiran.Da su ovi "humanitarci"zastali da razmisle o tome što su "otkrili" videli bi da se nešto ne slaže sa njihovim zaključcima.Nemoguće je da su loletnički brakovi tako opasni i pogubni ,a u tim kulturama traju više hiljda godina.Vljda bi već nestali ili ti narodi ili običaji.Ali zaslepljenost sopstvenim poimanjem svega postojećeg i misionarskim žarom,a pomognuti fondovima za istraživanja često su spremni da otkrivaju toplu vodu kako bi predstavili svoj rad onima od kojih su dobili pare.
Posebno je poziv na svest o tome šta se ocenjuje kao nepodobno ponašanje tih divljaka i neophodnost korekcije zabrinjavajuća za onoga ko hoće to da vidi.Verovatno će sada da nastane vreme pritisaka te države da "usaglase"svoje zakonodavstvo sa zakonododavstvom "međunarodne zajednice",a radionice će obaviti posao iznutra.
Ako ne poslušaju dobiće međunarodne snage za zaštitu ljudskih prava da ih nauče kako da ih poštuju.
To me sve mnogo podseća na "oslobađanje "devojaka iz Vijetnama,Kambodže,Laosa,Bosne,Kosova i drugih zemalja gde se krše ljudska prava,a završava se popunjavanjem kupleraja devojkama koje upotrebljavaju kontracetivna sredstva.
Evo i jednog malog predloga.Preispitajmo sopstveno poreklo pa da vidimo sa koliko su se godina udavale naše bake i prabake,sem ako ne smatramo da su u njihovo vreme devojčice ranije sazrevale.
Ja sam Vlajna. Moja baka se udala sa 14 godina. Moja mama se udala sa 18 (u selu su je smatrali matorom devojkom koja će teško da se uda. Eeee bre 18 godina, to je starost). :cry: :x
Da ne bi bilo priče kako je to samo vlaški običaj evo srpskoih primera.Moja baka po ocu se udala u petnaestoj i sa 15 godina rodila moga oca.Rodila je još dva sina pored njega i tri kćeri.Doživela je lepu starost.Na sasvim drugom kraju moja prabaka po majci se udala u šesnaestoj,rodila dvanaestoro dece od koji su troje umrli kao bebe,a ostalih devetoro je doživelo duboku starost.
Mislim da se jedan moj rođak sa sela oženio devojkom koja je imala 17. I to je otprilike to, koliko ja znam, ostali iz moje familije su se venčavali nakon punoletstva.
Što se tiče toga kako su opstali oni sa takvim običajima, pa, kad se ljudi kote kao zečevi, neki će sigurno preživeti. Osim toga, radi se o kulturama u kojima žena nema šta da radi sa svojim životom osim da se uda i razmnožava, jal' će da rinta u očevoj ili u muževljevoj kući, u muževljevoj makar vremenom postane nekakva gazdarica, i ne bije je glas da mora da je falična kad se još nije udala.
Nije fer meriti različite kulture istim aršinom.Svako globalno propisivanje uređenja života za različite narode i kulture je pogubno za ljudsku civilizaciju.
Nisam ni ja za globalno propisivanje uređenja života; nemam običaj da drugima određujem kako će da žive, dokle god ne smetaju meni da živim kako ja hoću. Smatram da je nezdravo da se petnaestogodišnje i mlađe ili malčice starije devojčice udaju i rađaju, ali to je moje lično mišljenje, ne namećem ga nikome.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 14-09-2008, 10:19:41
Quote from: Albedo 0možda oni lažu, ili važi samo za Srbiju, da seks sa maloljetnicom nije krivično djelo, osim ako nije riječ o djevojčici.
Seks sa maloletnicom koja je dečak bi bio vrlo zanimljiv, možda bi i vredelo otići u zatvor zbog njega :lol:
No, anyway, ako se nešto nije promenilo u našem zakonodavstvu u poslednje dve godine (a sumnjam da jeste), u Srbiji je seks sa osobom mlađom od 14 godina, bez obzira na pol ilegalan, a preko 14 legalan, sem ako nije u pitanju homoeksualni odnos, gde se granica pomera na 18.
U Srbiji je seks sa osobom preko 14 a mlađom od 18 legalan samo ako i druga (treća, peta...) osoba potpada pod iste starosne granice. A u starom Rimu granica punoletstva je za žene bila 12 a muškarce 14 godina. U sedamnaestovekovnoj Nemačkoj brakovi pre 25. godine bili su retki među pučanstvom itd.
mora se znati mera,zamislite da ste ujak klinke od 15 koju muva neki crnogorski kvazi biznismen od 45,,,Ono mora se znati mera,stara koka je dobra juha!!!!
Quote from: angel011 on 10-11-2009, 09:52:56radi se o kulturama u kojima žena nema šta da radi sa svojim životom osim da se uda i razmnožava
to su kulture koje su dobro skontale zenske potencijale.
sve ovo ostalo je majanje i zablude kojima samo unesrecuju zensku celjad, da ne kazem momcad.
Zašto onda latentno podržavaš žensku "zabludelost"? ;)
latentno podrzavam? to ne mogu ni da zamislim sta je!
Quote from: Ghoul on 11-11-2009, 01:58:05
Quote from: angel011 on 10-11-2009, 09:52:56radi se o kulturama u kojima žena nema šta da radi sa svojim životom osim da se uda i razmnožava
to su kulture koje su dobro skontale zenske potencijale.
sve ovo ostalo je majanje i zablude kojima samo unesrecuju zensku celjad, da ne kazem momcad.
I, kad ćeš ti da usrećiš neko žensko čeljade time što ćeš da se venčaš sa njom i praviš joj decu? :lol:
najveći znak moje ljubavi prema ženama jeste to što ih prilično uspešno štitim od sebe i svoje blizine, a naročito na duže staze.
http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/brooke-shields-by-gary-gross/ (http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/brooke-shields-by-gary-gross/)