Da, da... Dogodiće se... Zombie će ipak režirati nastavak rimejka NOĆI VEŠTICA, filma koji je prošle godine zgrnuo dobre pare. Bradati i čupavi metalac/režiser se kleo da se neće petljati oko drugog dela, ali se izgleda predomislio. Kaže, otišao je na dug odmor, snimio album, i sada je ponovo uzbuđen u vezi sa Michaelom Myersom i njegovom sejom.
H2 će početi tamo gde se H1 završio, a snimanje počinje u martu kako bi sve bilo spremno za premijeru na Noć veštica '09.
Carpenterova reakcija? Verovatno je već unovčio ček, pije pivo, duva i muči se da pređe DEAD SPACE.
Znaci kad sam procitao naslov rekao sam:O NE !....a prve tvoje reci bejahu......DA DA ! :evil:
Samo sam dobro predvideo sam tipičnu reakciju.
:wink:
From our sources close to the project, expect to see the return of Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode, Tyler Mane as Michael Myers, Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Sam Loomis, Daeg Faerch as young Michael Myers and of course Sheri Moon Zombie as Deborah Meyers. Nothing is set in stone as the script is currently being written, but we'll have the official news when anything is officially announced.
A već se pojavio i teaser poster:
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Quote from: "Kunac"From our sources close to the project, expect to see the return of Scout Taylor-Compton as Laurie Strode, Tyler Mane as Michael Myers, Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Sam Loomis, Daeg Faerch as young Michael Myers and of course Sheri Moon Zombie as Deborah Meyers.
Pa dobro, zar nisu svi osim Lori pobijeni u bioskopskoj verziji? (mada, ne sećam se šta je bilo sa Majklovom mamom...)
A Majersu je Lori valjda raznela jebenu glavu na kraju!? Šta, prvo je Majkl Majers bio obični white trash serial killer, a sad će najednom da postane Boogeyman, kao kod Carpentera? Damn you, Rom Zombie! :x
Da je Majkl Majers ikada stvarno umro, sad bi se prevrto u grobu!
Quote from: "pilot babo"Da je Majkl Majers ikada stvarno umro, sad bi se prevrto u grobu!
Ne, nego bi izašao iz istog i otfikario Robu Zombiju glavu sjekirom :twisted:
Deborah Myers je sebi pucala u glavu i ubila se. Nije mogla više da izdrži pritisak. (Ne krivim je, to je najpametnije što je mogla da uradi u datim okolnostima).
Kako će je sad vratiti u priču: pojma nemam, pošto je (valjda) nemoguće da se Daeg Faerch (koji je u međuvremenu odvrkao) glumi u razradi razdoblja pre nego što je M. M. zatvoren u duševnu bolnicu.
EDIT: U ranijoj verziji secnearija za prvi film, Deborah se ubila mnogo kasnije, tek kada je Michael, kao odrastao čova, pobegao iz lude kuće. Michael je došao da poseti mamu (valjda ju je namirisao - kao i sestru) - a ona mu je poželela dobrodošlicu tako što je pred njim sebi raznela glavu.
Taj Rob Zombi je retard i neko bi dekretom trebalo da mu zabrani da snima filmove.
Quote from: "Harvester"Taj Rob Zombi je retard i neko bi dekretom trebalo da mu zabrani da snima filmove.
Ne, nego bi Majkl Majers trebalo sekirom da mu otfikari glavu! :evil:
Quote from: "pilot babo"Quote from: "Harvester"Taj Rob Zombi je retard i neko bi dekretom trebalo da mu zabrani da snima filmove.
Ne, nego bi Majkl Majers trebalo sekirom da mu otfikari glavu! :evil:
Ili npr. to.
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EXCLUSIVE Danielle Harris in Talks to Return in 'H2'
We learned this evening that Harris is in final talks to join the cast of H2, or HALLOWEEN II. She is the latest name circling the project alongside Scout Taylor-Compton, Malcolm McDowell (signed for three films), Daeg Faerch and Sheri Moon Zombie. Tyler Mane (Michael) is the only confirmed name thus far. What do you guys think Zombie will be doing with Harris? The film hits theaters August 28th, 2009.
kratko i jasno
ne zanima me :)
Quote from: "Truba"kratko i jasno
ne zanima me :)
ko tebe sta pita?
sta ti je sa sajtom nešto mi je prebijel za horror sajt :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
After surviving the attack of her brother, Laurie is now a mess as Zombie explains, "now she's not the happy-go-lucky girl, now she's very fucked up famous person, trying to make sense of this," he tells Icons of Fright.
"She hasn't seen the script yet, so she's not sure what's happening. But I put a lot of good stuff into her character. It's a real kick-ass film."
Zombie continues talking about where the film picks up. "It takes place over some time, but it starts that night and then essentially, I mean... the first one, Laurie has no idea what just happened. But then she wakes up the next day and someone's going, "Oh by the way, your parents are dead. All your friends are dead. And actually, your brother is uh, Charles Manson." (Laughs) You know? "How do you feel about that?" See what I mean?"
As for Malcolm McDowell returning as Dr. Sam Loomis, Zombie explains that his deal isn't signed yet (even though we've been told he's already secured for three films), but he'll most likely return.
"Most likely. It's one of those things... I don't know who's back until everyone's signs their deal! (Laughs) You never know what's going to happen. I mean, me and Malcolm... Malcolm's a wonderful guy, and we're still good friends through this whole thing. We talk about it all the time. I'm pretty sure Malcolm is going to be back. But you never know."
Nekako uz ime Rob Zombie logicno ide Izbeci po svaku cenu... To sam mislio i kad sam prvi put cuo da redi remake, ali ga opet odgledah. Nadam se da cu ovaj put odoleti znatizelji jer svaki put je to bilo iznova razocarenje.
čudi me toliki animozitet prema čoveku koji nam je dao dva veoma uspela filma: House of 1000 Corpses i The Devil's Rejects. uz to, Sheri Moon Zombie je preslatka.
Quote from: "henk"čudi me toliki animozitet prema čoveku koji nam je dao dva veoma uspela filma: House of 1000 Corpses i The Devil's Rejects. uz to, Sheri Moon Zombie je preslatka.
house- uspeo? u čemu? smaranju?
šeri je slatka ali zbog njenih epizoda ne vredi gledati po 2 sata filmova - dosta su i njegovi SPOTOVI!
House of 1K Corpses je nepismen film za koji je jedino opravdanje to što je riječ o debiju. Devil's Rejects je u režiserskom i scenarističkom smislu značajan napredak, čak vrlo dobar film, sve do posljednje scene koja sve to efektno baca u toalet. Halloween je potpuni debakl. Tako da... imamo li osnova da očekujemo išta bolje od nastavka? Teško...
Quotepo 2 sata filmova - dosta su i njegovi SPOTOVI
Pa to je to, right? Zombijevi filmovi su dvosatni spotovi.
Quote from: "Ghoul"Quote from: "henk"čudi me toliki animozitet prema čoveku koji nam je dao dva veoma uspela filma: House of 1000 Corpses i The Devil's Rejects. uz to, Sheri Moon Zombie je preslatka.
house- uspeo? u čemu? smaranju?
ok, no meni su navedeni Zombijevi naslovi (Devil's Rejects i House) sasvim probavljivi: zabavni, donekle duhoviti, vizuelno atraktivni, šarmantno groteskni i bez nekakvih (neosnovanih) ambicija i pretenzija. sve u svemu, dve lepe sedmice (na skali do 10). naravno, Devils Rejects je nešto napredniji u odnosu na svog prethodnika, te naginje ka 8-.
P.S. iskreno, u moru horor smeća koje naokolo kola i zagađuje ambijent, čudi me da se veoma dopadljivi/gledljivi Rob Zombie našao na tapetu.
Quote from: "henk"P.S. iskreno, u moru horor smeća koje naokolo kola i zagađuje ambijent, čudi me da se veoma dopadljivi/gledljivi Rob Zombie našao na tapetu.
pa jedini li je?
ti izgleda nisi čitao ostale teme na forumu, ako tvrdiš da je baš zombi nekako izdvojen i 'napadnut' a ostalo 'more smeća' niko nije osuđivao!
procunjaj malo!
Quote from: "Ghoul"Quote from: "henk"P.S. iskreno, u moru horor smeća koje naokolo kola i zagađuje ambijent, čudi me da se veoma dopadljivi/gledljivi Rob Zombie našao na tapetu.
pa jedini li je?
ti izgleda nisi čitao ostale teme na forumu, ako tvrdiš da je baš zombi nekako izdvojen i 'napadnut' a ostalo 'more smeća' niko nije osuđivao!
procunjaj malo!
pa tek sam pristigao i ono, hoću, procunjaću malo detaljnije! stvarno je super ovaj forum, svakako najbolji filmski na srpskom govornom području. mnoštvo kvalitetnih informacija i drago mi je što sam nabasao na vas/njega. poz!
Kako su je preveli kod mene u dvd klubu, Kuca Uzasa ili Ukleta Kuca, to je prvo Zombijevo delo koje sam upoznao.
Film kome bi na skali od 0-10 dao -1 :x . Film je klasican primer nekvaliteta i nekreativnosti, gde se nedostatak istih pokusava kompenzovati brutalnim i sadistickim scenama, ciji je jedini cilj da sokiraju i zgade gledaoca.
Rimejk Noci Vestica je jasno pokazao da Zombi nema zicu za vrhunski horor. Majkla Majersa koji je postao simbol zla, sveo je na americkog serijskog ubicu koga su maltretirali kao malog.
On nema osecaj da napravi atmosferu zla, napetosti, uzbudjenja, on to jednostavno ne ume. NJegovo razmisljanje je kolji, seci, udri..
Sve ludo i pijano::: Scout Tayor-Compton aka Laurie Strode intervjuiše svoje kolege na setu H2. Sa njom o raznoraznim glupostima pričaju Brea Grant, Margot Kidder, Angela Trimbur, Rob Zombie i dvoglava beba u akvarijumu. Totalni raspad! Naduvane cure, stare i mlade, koje svašta rade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8VH1VdlcY&eurl=http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15627
trejler: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810061258/video/13140292
Tja. Ne može biti gore od prethodnog filma...
jeftino! kao neki pravo-na-DVD drek. istina da su trailer radili na brzinu ali mogli su malo više da se potrude. hajde, đavolji škart mi se dopao do izvesne mere, možda rob opet uspe da dosegne nešto slično - ali bolje je biti skeptik. ovo je rađeno na brzaka i za male pare.
Ovo izgleda već malo bolje...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2wqI9bfOvs
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aintitcool.com%2Fimages2009%2FH2newBig.jpg&hash=439e6483d3f00e469cc8aa44db7868e1a2837746)
trejler 2: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810061258/trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810061258/trailer)
Rob Zombie And Mr. Beaks Talk HALLOWEEN II!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42049 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42049)
Mr. Beaks: You've said that this is 100% your film. Do you feel like you no longer have to honor the tradition and the archetypes of the HALLOWEEN series?
Rob Zombie: I mean, I had absolute freedom on the first film. It wasn't like anyone was saying, "Oh, you have to keep this, or you have to keep that." The only person who was thinking that was me. It's really funny, because no one was even that concerned whether I kept Michael Myers's mask. I was like, "We've got to keep the mask! Without the mask, it's not HALLOWEEN. It's just some dude." And within that, I don't know if I could ever find that balance. Remakes are tough. You're almost always in a no-win situation, unless you're remaking a film that's so bad or one that no one's ever heard of. I love [John Carpenter's] HALLOWEEN as a movie. They'd be like, "Well, who could be Dr. Loomis besides Donald Pleasence?" And I'd be like, "I don't fucking know, because I can't see it any other way either!" Or "Who could be Laurie Strode?" But then as time goes on, you start thinking outside the box. And I had to stop watching HALLOWEEN because it was only fucking me up more.
So on the second one, I was like, "Okay. No one mentions HALLOWEEN. No one mentions John Carpenter. We don't look at anything. Let's just go crazy in a certain direction." And what's kind of funny with HALLOWEEN for you or me is that you can't fathom if someone hasn't seen it. But it's incredible how many people haven't seen the movie. Like Malcolm McDowell. And half the actors that were showing up. So it was good. They couldn't reference anything in their minds.
Beaks: And you're also getting away from Carpenter's score in this film?
Zombie: Yeah. In the first film, it made sense. But it's funny: we've put it in and out of this film at times. And this film has just so much become its own thing that it almost seems to take you out of the movie. We thought, "Oh, we'll put it in in this one section, and the fans will love it!" But it was actually very distracting. You get caught up in the vibe of what the film actually is, and when you hear that score, it's just kind of like, "Oh, yeah. Here we are again." It's weird. It just didn't work.
Beaks: Well, it has a strong association not just to the first film, but also to all the sequels. So if you're trying to change course, it makes sense to lose it.
Zombie: It's hard to make people see something differently and then throw that music in there. No matter what you're watching, it makes it feel like you've seen it before. On the first film, it was fine - like when Michael discovers the mask. But in this one it just never made sense.
Beaks: In reading about what you've done with the narrative, it sounds like Loomis has become something of an antagonist: he's very full of himself, and pimping his book on talk shows. I'm wondering if Michael has become the protagonist of this film.
Zombie: I was trying to think of it realistically. Like "If the first film was real, what would happen?" And I kind of thought of it like "If Michael Myers was famous, he'd be like Charles Manson." Thus making Dr. Loomis Vincent Bugliosi. Loomis would be a superstar; he'd be a little guy who started as a child psychiatrist turned into Dr. Phil. (Laughs) Meanwhile, people who were affected by all of these events, who are trying to pick up the pieces of their crappy lives... and this guy's out there milking it for all it's worth. It seemed kind of like a realistic journey to go on, even though you see it's eating away at him. It's not just like, "Oh, I'm an asshole, and this is what I do."
I thought all of the characters would be damaged, and they would respond in different ways. Everybody knows people in their lives, or themselves, who've had horrible events happen to them, and they change you in certain ways: some people become really introverted, and some people will just go, "Fuck it! I don't care anymore! I'm going out partying every night, and I don't give a shit if I live." That's what I felt Laurie Strode would become. She'd become really outgoing, whereas the Annie Brackett character, who was more outgoing, would become more agoraphobic and introverted. The event fucks them up in different ways.
Beaks: You've kept the hospital setting, at least for a portion of the film. Was that a conscious nod to the second HALLOWEEN, or just out of necessity?
Zombie: It's a very small thing at the beginning of the movie. And it was just... I always think it's kind of cool when sequels pick up like it's the next second. That's what I wanted to do: pick up like it just immediately happened. And, obviously, [Laurie] was pretty fucked up, so she'd have to go to the hospital. Maybe the trailer makes you think, "Oh, the whole movie's in a hospital!" But that's just a brief thing.
Beaks: The nice thing is that no one's going to be upset when you don't follow HALLOWEEN II beat-for-beat.
Zombie: I don't think they'll be upset.
Beaks: Well, I was watching the preview for the A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake yesterday, and while it looks like Samuel Bayer has shot the hell out of it, I'm just seeing every beat from the original film. Nothing could bore me more than going to see a movie like that. And I'll be honest: I had those same problems with your first HALLOWEEN.
Zombie: The biggest problem I had with the first HALLOWEEN myself is that I conceived it as two movies, and I pitched it that way. The first movie would be young Michael, leading up to him escaping Smith's Grove, coming back to Haddonfield, and then the movie would end. And then the second movie would be whatever. So it's sort of like two movies got shoved into one. It got awkward. You really sunk into the first part of the film, but the second part was just, like, a race to the end. And that wasn't the way I'd conceived it. Whereas this film... I love this movie so much more.
Beaks: One thing that made me happy was reading the soundtrack list. It's pretty varied. "The Things We Do for Love" by 10cc wedged in there next to Bad Brains. Were these songs you knew you wanted to use, or did they occur to you further down the line.
Zombie: Some of them were songs I'd always wanted to use. Having songs in advance in your mind helps a lot. Like on THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, it helped a lot. It was nice to be able to find the spirt of the movie - and the spirit of REJECTS became The Allman Brothers, Terry Reid and, obviously, Lynyrd Skynyrd. It really helped set the tone. Whereas with HALLOWEEN... not so much. There wasn't much outside of the Carpenter music that was meaningful. But on this one, there are certain songs that are: "Nights in White Satin" is one. I knew I was using that in advance, and shot it with the song already in the movie. It makes a big difference.
Beaks: Did you time the scene out in your head?
Zombie: Yeah, you just kind of write the scene knowing that's what's going to be playing. And it makes it that you can really conceive it, as opposed to saying, "Oh, we know some music will be playing there." I don't know if people can tell the difference, but it helps me when I'm shooting.
Beaks: Did you play music on set?
Zombie: Well, there's this scene where the girls go to this "Phantom Jam". It's a concert, and I didn't want to have something where there's a band playing, and all of the people are listening on headphones pretending to move to music. You always see that in movies, and you're like, "Why is no one moving in time to the music?" It always looks really fake. So we decided to have a real concert and film it. It's kind of like a Robert Altman movie, where you can kind of hear the dialogue overlapping, and the music's blaring. But when you watch it, you go, "Wow! It looks like they snuck these actresses into an actual concert." It's so much more alive that way.
Beaks: I love that you're referencing Robert Altman in making a horror film. From hearing you talk before, I know you've got a really well-rounded sense of film history, and that you can bring this knowledge into your movies. It's not about trying to top what other horror filmmakers are making.
Zombie: I don't even know what other horror filmmakers are making. I don't really watch horror movies that much. It's not really my thing, in a strange way. People are always like, "You got Brad Dourif because he was Chucky, right?" And I'll be like, "Oh, right, he is Chucky. I forgot about that. No, I got him because I like GATES OF HEAVEN." It's never really what it seems. I mean, I like horror movies, obviously, but it's older. When the '80s hit, and everything became a "slasher" movie, I kind of zoned out. That's really not my thing.
Beaks: But don't your fans, who've been with you since White Zombie, expect you to be making horror films? Are you trying to break out of that?
Zombie: I'm always trying to break out of that in a certain sense. To me, THE DEVIL'S REJECTS isn't really a horror movie. I mean, it's horrific, but, to me, it's a western. It's three outlaws on the run from a sheriff. It's like a '70s road movie. That's the type of stuff I like. I mean, I like horror movies, but I also like all kinds of stuff. What I do like is dark, violent material.
Beaks: It's more aesthetic-based then genre-based?
Zombie: Yeah. It could be TAXI DRIVER, it could be HARDCORE, it could be RABID DOGS, it could be THE WILD BUNCH. I like dark, fucked-up material. And sometimes horror movies don't even feel that way; they don't feel dark and disgusting, but kind of light and funny.
Beaks: But in your films, the disturbing elements are sometimes leavened by humor. And some of the people you've cast in your films... they're familiar. We like them, and we enjoy their company.
Zombie: I like casting every role with someone who's an interesting character actor because that's what I remember as a kid. You'd watch movies, and you'd notice these people popping up in other stuff. You'd notice, like, Geoffrey Lewis or Bruce Dern or... whatever. I love that. Like in [HALLOWEEN II], Margot Kidder comes in and does only one scene, but it's worth having Margot Kidder as opposed to someone who'd just be working for scale. I always want to try to find someone who'll make it interesting.
Beaks: But aren't you worried that when she comes in, we'll go, "Oh, my god, that's Margot Kidder!"?
Zombie: I think that can happen, but it only happens... to film fans. The average person is not going, "Oh, my god, it's Udo Kier!" If you write for Ain't It Cool News, you are because you know all those people. But the average person isn't going, "That's so obviously Malcolm McDowell." For us, we see every little thing. But most people aren't seeing all these obscure things.
Beaks: I guess we sometimes forget that movies can work on a completely different level for people who aren't walking film encyclopedias.
Zombie: And that's the thing. What can you do? You'd have to find all unknowns - which is fine, too. But people don't go "Oh, that's Clint Howard!" They go, "Um, is that Billy Bob Thornton?"
Beaks: Really?
Zombie: People get Clint Howard and Billy Bob Thornton confused for some reason.
Beaks: (Laughs) I'd like to see Clint Howard in big Hollywood movies as much as I see Billy Bob Thornton.
Zombie: Clint's awesome. I love Clint.
Beaks: Betsy Rue is in [HALLOWEEN II].
Zombie: Yeah.
Beaks: She's someone who really popped out for me this year. Talk about a fearless actress: her [very extended] scene in MY BLOODY VALENTINE 3-D... I couldn't stop talking about it once I walked out of the theater.
Zombie: Some people just don't care. They just don't care.
Beaks: And she's that kind of type?
Zombie: I guess. She only worked for one day, so I didn't get to know her very well. But she seemed super cool. There's this scene that happens at the Rabbit in Red club, and we had an actress who had to be naked through the whole scene. And she just sat out naked the whole day. She just didn't care! It's funny.
Beaks: So where are you with your various other projects?
Zombie: EL SUPERBEASTO comes out September 22nd. That's done. That's coming out. I have a record that's finished, so I'm going to hit the road in October. And once that's all wrapped up, the goal is to go back and get TYRANNOSAURUS REX going. That's what I was going to do before HALLOWEEN II came up.
Beaks: Yeah, you had to rush right into HALLOWEEN II.
Zombie: It was insane.
Beaks: Was that preferable in any way?
Zombie: Movies are weird, and I can't explain it. For some reason, sometimes things just really work, and sometimes they just really don't work. THE DEVIL'S REJECTS was a film where everything just worked: everyone got along great, and it was just an incredible experience. HALLOWEEN was miserable. Every day was a problem, everything was fucked up, people who usually love each other fucking hated each other... and it was one of those movies where we grinded to the end of the schedule. And you're like, "Why was this such a bad experience?" HALLOWEEN II was just like DEVIL'S REJECTS. Probably every director says that you can't figure out why sometimes it just connects and everything seems to go perfectly. But for some reason, the creative team was totally in sync. And for some reason on HALLOWEEN, the creative team was just totally out of sync the whole fucking time. That's why, even when the movie was number one, I was so depressed. Because creatively, I didn't feel like it ever... you just want the thing to be right, and something was wrong the whole time to me.
Beaks: What do you think about the fans who didn't like the first HALLOWEEN. Do you think they'll like this one?
Zombie: I don't know why anyone does or doesn't like anything. There was a funny thing with HALLOWEEN, too, that I think was sort of an internet-created dislike for the film. Because so many people come up to me and they go, "I finally got around to seeing it, man, and I fucking loved it! People told me I'd hate it!" And I think also, because it was a remake of HALLOWEEN. If you read reviews, you'll find people who are like, "I fucking hated that movie when I saw it. But now that I went back and watched it again, it's pretty rad, actually."
Beaks: Even Roger Ebert's had to do that a few times.
Zombie: I've done that, too. I've gone to the movies and seen movies and hated them. Then I'll see it on HBO and go, "What the fuck was I thinking? That movie was awesome!" I just wasn't in the mood to watch it that day. Whatever. I can't figure out what people like and don't like. It's impossible. That's all you can really do, right?
Beaks: That'll keep you from creative paralysis.
Zombie: It'll keep you from losing your mind.
Mene više zanima THE HAUNTED WORLD OF EL SUPERBEASTO!
The Haunted World Of El Superbeasto Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzMCePIYbCA#ws-lq-lq2-hq)
Sudeći po kritikama Halloween 2 je manje-više isto sranje kao i prvi film. :(
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42182 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42182)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42155 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42155)
Samo su najveći optimisti utopisti mogli da očekuju nešto od ovoga.
Ja sam očekivao da makar bude manje loš od prethodnog, ali izgleda da ni od toga nema ništa...
Film je na momente jeziv(mozda je to i do ocajnog snimka), al je tako los. Ima nekih solidnih trenutaka, no sve je to u sustini veliko sranje i ne kapiram sto je Zombi htio ovim da uradi. Nemam volje da ga gledam kad izadje DVD rip, i ovo mi je izgubljeno vrijeme. Onaj prosli dio je bio iole gledljiv..
Skrnavljenje Halloween serijala, oduzmite jebenom Zombiju kameru.
Da li neko moze da postavi linkove sa slicicama iz filma kako bi se video kvalitet. Hajde, neka vam ne bude tesko. Plizzzzzz!
Po meni, sama ideja da ubaci svoju ženu u film čisto da bi, eto, glumila - je čista budalaština.
Ma njegova žena je još i najmanji problem. Najveći je - on :evil:
"Weinstein is also in negotiations with Patrick Lussier ("My Bloody Valentine") to write and direct a third "Halloween" franchise in 3-D. Weinstein is hoping to release the pic next summer."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118008181.html?categoryId=19&cs=1 (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118008181.html?categoryId=19&cs=1)
Hm, znači smeši nam se My Bloody Valentine 3D part II sakriven iza maske Michaela Mayersa, uff...
šta ih je sad spopao taj 3-D... prvo nastavci, onda rimejci, sada sve to samo u 3D....wtf?
Upućeni špekulišu da je 3D najnovija moda u Holivudu jer efikasno smanjuje štetu od piraterije. Ja ne bih znao ima li u ovome istine ali mogu u prilično ozbiljne sume da se kladim kako će se taj trend za godinu-dve izduvati, kada ovi filmovi krenu po DVD izdanjima i ispostavi se da ciljana kućna publika u zanemarljivom procentu ima televizore koji ovo mogu da podrže...
filmic je bas sladak. otkacen i moderan.
Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW
http://rapidshare.com/files/318330205/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318329115/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318328645/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318330379/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318329116/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318328595/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318330671/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/318327767/Halloween.II.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD-ARROW.part8.rar
Pre nego shto otpochne pljuvachina, samo htedoh da kazhem kako film jeste a mess, ali da sam se izvanredno zabavio, i da ima nekoliko izvanrednih trenutaka.
Imauci u vidu koliko su ljudi prezirali prvi deo, cenim da ce ovaj biti josh triput prezreniji. Mada, ko zna, ovo je toliko luckasto vidjenje Helovina, da se mozhda nekome i dopadne na nekom high concept trash nivou.
Quote from: Le Samourai on 10-12-2009, 00:07:55Imauci u vidu koliko su ljudi prezirali prvi deo, cenim da ce ovaj biti josh triput prezreniji. Mada, ko zna, ovo je toliko luckasto vidjenje Helovina, da se mozhda nekome i dopadne na nekom high concept trash nivou.
Ja sam jedan od onih koji prezire prvi Zombijev Halloween, ali mislim da će mi ovaj bolje (tj. manje loše) leći, pošto je "slon napustio sobu" tj. Zombi se sklonio od originala na koji je u prvom filmu uspeo da se prvo popiša, a da ga onda zbryano i inferiorno reciklira. U tom smislu, ovaj novi Halloween je više film za sebe, i mada ne očekujem posebno dobar film u bilo kom smislu, bar se ovaj put neću nervirati. Odoh da ga pogledam...
Prvih pola sata je praktichno rimejk prvih pola sata Halloweena II - a onda kazhe "Dosta!" i krece sa nechim potpuno shesnaestim.
Quote from: Le Samourai on 10-12-2009, 03:21:03
Prvih pola sata je praktichno rimejk prvih pola sata Halloweena II - a onda kazhe "Dosta!" i krece sa nechim potpuno shesnaestim.
A u tom šesnaestom se nađe mesta i za podsećanje na Halloween 4. Sve u svemu, ovo je prilično bizaran film, loš, ali na zanimljiv način. Treš koji sebe shvata smrtno ozbiljno, ali zahvaljujući pojedinim Zombijevim čudnim rešenjima (posebno rediteljskim) to je na momente sasvim gledljivo (a na momente liči na video spot), mada su likovi Lori i Dr. Lumisa još gori i iritantniji nego u prvom delu (Šerif Breket je jedini simpatični junak), a dijalozi su uglavnom kriminalni. "Jebeno" se jebeno ponavlja hiljadu jebenih puta. Ubistva su brutalna do te mere da sam se zapitao koja je zapravo poenta toga, pošto ovo niti je slešer zajebancija u duhu osamdesetih, a ne funkcioniše ni kao ozbiljan, realističan film. I zašto je Zombi toliko opsednut pesmom Love Hurts? ovde je ponovo čujemo, ali u drugoj verziji i u smislenijem kontekstu nego u prvom filmu. No dobro, bar se nisam nervirao, kao što sam i pretpostavio.
Wow. Pa taj Zombi je načisto pobudalio, nije da je nekad bio normalan. Nadam se da će nekad da snimi kakav zombi film.
Pogledao sam film večeras... Moglo je mnogo bolje iako nisam ništa novo očekivao od Zombija... Film je predvidljiv do zla boga...toliko nepotrebnih ubistava koji te teraju da gledaš na sat... Mada film po meni ima par odličnih trenutaka (tu smatram scene u kojim Lori i legendarni Bred Durif pronalaze telo drugarice/ćerke... jedine dve scene koje su me navele na pomisao da film MOŽDA ima smisla)
Još mi se svidelo i kako je Lori reagovala na saznanje da je Majklova sestra (alkohol i te fore, tipično za današnju omladinu kada ima problema) i to što je Lumis postao unovčeni snob željan medijske pažnje i popularnosti... Za ostatak filma mogu samo da kažem da je Zombi pljunuo u lice na samo helovin fanovima već i celom serijalu...
Prvo, ne postoji "nepotrebno ubistvo". To je oksimoron. Kao "nepotrebna scena tuširanja" ili "previše golotinje".
Drugo, sam Halloween serijal je sebi odavno pljunuo u lice sa šestim dijelom sebe.
ja sam se dvoumio dal da ovo uopće gledam, ali sam se prelomio kad mi ga je aca r. nazvao 'nesumnjivim autorskim filmom', 'trijumfom' i šta sve ne.
naravno, ne očekujem ništa slično tome, ali dopuštam mogućnost da se ovo možda IPAK MOŽE pogledati, bar jednom, pa ću to i pokušati, u narednim danima. kad prvo odgledam neke filmove od kojih imam jače razloge da očekujem mnogo.
aleksandar aca radivojević, idol mladih, knows best...
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 08:53:14aleksandar aca radivojević, idol mladih, knows best...
ako ti tako kažeš.
ja ću, ipak, da proverim.
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 08:53:14aleksandar aca radivojević, idol mladih, knows best...
Ma, njega smo već čuli, ali šta kaže Dr. Kunac, idol mladih ljubiteljki Twilighta?
mda, jedna -vidim, tamo na popboksu - čak oće da je đorđe ženi!
u svakom slučaju, dok ging ne donese svoj definitivni i neopozivi sud, moraćemo da se oslonimo (uz mnogo zadrške i predostrožnosti, naravno) na to što tvrdi onaj ignoramus, aca.
Doktor će svoj sud o H:2 izložiti koliko još danas-sutra. Što se ostalog tiče, moja poruka glasi: get a life.
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 09:47:13moja poruka glasi: get a life.
wow.
samo da taj život ne dobijem od doktora.
mislim, kunca.
he he.
'to je život, to nije reklama
nikom nije lepše nego nama...' i tako ti radovi.
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 03:40:44
Prvo, ne postoji "nepotrebno ubistvo". To je oksimoron. Kao "nepotrebna scena tuširanja" ili "previše golotinje".
Drugo, sam Halloween serijal je sebi odavno pljunuo u lice sa šestim dijelom sebe.
Hoćeš da kažeš da je scena u kojoj Majkl ubija gazdu strptiz kluba bila potrebna filmu i da film bez nje ne bi mogao da funkcioniše? Šta, scena je pokazala da je Majkl ubilačka mašina? Hm, to sam shvatio i pre toga... A šesti deo ma koliko da je nepotreban celom serijalu i da mu je pljunuo u lice, meni je baš gledljiv i simpatičan :) Na stranu to što je priča banalna...
Nisam gledo film, pa ne znam. U svakom slučaju, ako nije potrebna filmu, potrebna je GLEDAOCIMA. Loš film je loš film, ali loš film bez ubistava je katastrofa.
Čitao sam na nekim forumima da neki horor fanovi smatraju da su pojedina ubistva u H:2 previše sadistička, da je toliko količina nasilja nepotrebna i da se išlo na "šok radi šoka".
Setite se samo Carpenterovomg originala. Ne kažem da u njemu nije bilo ubistava, bilo je, ali su ona bila samo višnja na torti napravljenoj od najkvalitetnijeg saspensa. Uostalom, da se ne raspisujem - proveriću to sve i sam uskoro, pa ću se oglasiti.
Moja tvrdnja se odnosi na vrlo specifičnu grupu filmova, nejmli na slešere koje su radili manje kvalitetni reditelji i koji jedino mogu da apiluju na naše trešerske afinitete. Zombijevi filmovi svakako spadaju u tu grupu. Ko od njega očekuje saspens ili kvalitetan film, taj je lud. Dakle, nek nas bar počasti sa što više ubistava i što manje kenjanja i ja zadovoljan.
QuoteČitao sam na nekim forumima da neki horor fanovi smatraju da su pojedina ubistva u H:2 previše sadistička, da je toliko količina nasilja nepotrebna i da se išlo na "šok radi šoka".
Me likes it. Mnogi moroni su do sada pokušavali da nas šokiraju radi šoka (most prominently Gaspar Noe i onaj krkan iz Danske koji nema pojma sa snimanjem filmova), pa valjda i Zombi ima pravo na to. Ako već nije sposoban da snimi dobar film :evil:
I ja se nadam krvavom trash festu... Nadam se da će do kraja film svi likovi biti mrtvi - uključujući i nesnosnu novu Laurie i onu travestiju od dokotra Loomisa...
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 17:03:14
I ja se nadam krvavom trash festu... Nadam se da će do kraja film svi likovi biti mrtvi - uključujući i nesnosnu novu Laurie i onu travestiju od dokotra Loomisa...
To bi zaista bilo sjajno, ali čisto sumnjam da Zombi (sa svojim producentima) ima u sebi toliki nivo imaginacije.
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 16:28:25
Moja tvrdnja se odnosi na vrlo specifičnu grupu filmova, nejmli na slešere koje su radili manje kvalitetni reditelji i koji jedino mogu da apiluju na naše trešerske afinitete. Zombijevi filmovi svakako spadaju u tu grupu. Ko od njega očekuje saspens ili kvalitetan film, taj je lud. Dakle, nek nas bar počasti sa što više ubistava i što manje kenjanja i ja zadovoljan.
QuoteČitao sam na nekim forumima da neki horor fanovi smatraju da su pojedina ubistva u H:2 previše sadistička, da je toliko količina nasilja nepotrebna i da se išlo na "šok radi šoka".
Me likes it. Mnogi moroni su do sada pokušavali da nas šokiraju radi šoka (most prominently Gaspar Noe i onaj krkan iz Danske koji nema pojma sa snimanjem filmova), pa valjda i Zombi ima pravo na to. Ako već nije sposoban da snimi dobar film :evil:
Xexe, pa dobro... Ti tako gledaš na Zombijeve filmove i donekle si u pravu... Ja to nisam tako gledao, samim tim H2 sada neću ni da posmatram kao slešer... kad već pominješ slešere, npr Vrisak ima bolju funkciju ubistava nego H2... Tamo se ubija sa razlogom, a ovde je Majkl ubio nekoliko ljudi više bez razloga...
kakav drek od filma... upravo ga gledam, negde sam na polovini... odavno nešto ovako loše nije išlo u široku bioskopsku distribuciju - u americi, that is. h2 je uspeo da bude zanimljiviji od čekaj me ja sigurno neću doći, ali to mu je otprilike jedini domet... užasan scenario, užasna gluma, užasna režija... jedino su eksperimenti sa fotografijom koliko-toliko uspeli, ali to je premalo... ubistava ima i zaista su nasilna, ali u njima ne postoji ni gram napetosti... laurie se ponaša kao white rash drolja, anni je stalno nadrkana, loomis je pompezni idiot... i ostalim "likovima" da ne govorim.
upravo ide scena halloween žurke, idem to da pogledam------
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 21:15:58kakav drek od filma...
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 08:53:14
aleksandar aca radivojević, idol mladih, knows best...
ako je verovati kuncu, onda ispada da - kunac knows jack shit!
Negledljivo. Ostalo mi je još 20-ak minuta, ali je sasvim jasno da je ovo najgori bioskopski horor godine. Moža i najgori bioskopski film u svim kategorijama. Pa još traje 2 sata. Nisam razočaran, pošto ništa dobro nisma ni očekivao, ali ipak... Sramotno.
Jesi odustao ili ćeš da istrpiš još tih dvadesetak minuta?
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 21:46:53
Jesi odustao ili ćeš da istrpiš još tih dvadesetak minuta?
Pusti čoveka, vidiš da je mazohista... :lol:
Retko kada prekinem film... ali ovoga puta sam bio blizu. Pogledao sam do kraja, ali čisto iz razloga da bih imao puno pravo da pljujem po ovoj abominaciji. Verujte, prvi Zombijev HALLOWEEN je u poređenju sa ovim remek-delo. Kra je ispunio neke od moji želja ali je posebno glup i nemaštovit. To stalno guranje Sheri Moon u svaki kadar je patologija. U prva dva filma je još bilo simpatično, u trećem je moglo da prođe - ali ovde nikako. Lepo je što se vole i što muž hoće da joj obezbedi posao ali treba imati granice. Tužno je kada jedan tupav filma kakav je ovaj pokušava da se pravi pametan i ubacuje nakakva pseudo-psihološka sranja u priču. Poštenije je bi bilo da je Michale došao, lepo sve poubijao za 80 minuta i the end. A ne da čitav film paradira Cheri kao duh i vuče nekakvog belog konja sa sobom...
Mislio sam da će Zombie posle tolikih muzičkih spotova, tri igrana filma, lažnog trjlera i animimrane gadosti naučiti nešto o tome kako se pravi film... Slaba vajda. H2 je loš da lošiji teško može da bude... Hajde, prvih 20-ak minuta su još đene-đene (segment u bolnici), ostalo je plač majke božje... Gledajte na vlastitu odgovornost... You've Been Warned.
Quote from: vilja on 14-12-2009, 21:53:41
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 21:46:53
Jesi odustao ili ćeš da istrpiš još tih dvadesetak minuta?
Pusti čoveka, vidiš da je mazohista... :lol:
A Vilja je dokazani egzibicionista... :)
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 22:00:43
Quote from: vilja on 14-12-2009, 21:53:41
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 21:46:53
Jesi odustao ili ćeš da istrpiš još tih dvadesetak minuta?
Pusti čoveka, vidiš da je mazohista... :lol:
A Vilja je dokazani egzibicionista... :)
Hej, hej, nisam rekla da je biti mazohista nešto loše...naprotiv. :)
Ne moraš odmah da uzvraćaš sa "dokazani exibicionista"... mada, i to je za ljude... :lol:
Quote from: vilja on 14-12-2009, 22:14:00
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 22:00:43
Quote from: vilja on 14-12-2009, 21:53:41
Quote from: Harvester on 14-12-2009, 21:46:53
Jesi odustao ili ćeš da istrpiš još tih dvadesetak minuta?
Pusti čoveka, vidiš da je mazohista... :lol:
A Vilja je dokazani egzibicionista... :)
Hej, hej, nisam rekla da je biti mazohista nešto loše...naprotiv. :)
Ne moraš odmah da uzvraćaš sa "dokazani exibicionista"... mada, i to je za ljude... :lol:
nevaljalice jedna... :)
Quote from: Kunac on 14-12-2009, 22:00:18
Retko kada prekinem film... ali ovoga puta sam bio blizu. Pogledao sam do kraja, ali čisto iz razloga da bih imao puno pravo da pljujem po ovoj abominaciji. Verujte, prvi Zombijev HALLOWEEN je u poređenju sa ovim remek-delo. Kra je ispunio neke od moji želja ali je posebno glup i nemaštovit. To stalno guranje Sheri Moon u svaki kadar je patologija. U prva dva filma je još bilo simpatično, u trećem je moglo da prođe - ali ovde nikako. Lepo je što se vole i što muž hoće da joj obezbedi posao ali treba imati granice. Tužno je kada jedan tupav filma kakav je ovaj pokušava da se pravi pametan i ubacuje nakakva pseudo-psihološka sranja u priču. Poštenije je bi bilo da je Michale došao, lepo sve poubijao za 80 minuta i the end. A ne da čitav film paradira Cheri kao duh i vuče nekakvog belog konja sa sobom...
Mislio sam da će Zombie posle tolikih muzičkih spotova, tri igrana filma, lažnog trjlera i animimrane gadosti naučiti nešto o tome kako se pravi film... Slaba vajda. H2 je loš da lošiji teško može da bude... Hajde, prvih 20-ak minuta su još đene-đene (segment u bolnici), ostalo je plač majke božje... Gledajte na vlastitu odgovornost... You've Been Warned.
Plus je napravio Majkla više Lederfejsom nego Mr. Majersom
MIchael Myers u carpenterovskom smislu reci u Zombijevom H2 ne postoji. Njegov MM je white trash psycho rmpalija koji pusta kosurinu i bradetinu i ide po strip klubovima kako bi nesrecnim potpuno obnazenim polovnjacama raymrskavao lica o ogledala.
Gde je ona suptilnost, ona klasa? Netragom nestali. Michael je bio plemstvo medju filmskim serijskim ubicama, Zombie je od njega nacinio sprdacinu.
A o Laurie i Loomisu bolje da i ne pocinjem...
prećeraše ga i jedni i drugi: ovo nit je najgori film nit je mnogo dobar, nego je jedno bizarno ludilo koje je i dobro i loše na zanimljiv način.
3- od mene, a razviću neke, nadam se, zanimljive teze - kad stignem.
Quote from: Ghoul on 15-12-2009, 23:37:59prećeraše ga i jedni i drugi: ovo nit je najgori film nit je mnogo dobar
Ko je ovde rekao da je mnogo dobar? Chak sam i ja, kao jedan od dvojice-trojice kojima se donekle dopao rekao da je objektivno losh.
rekao je aleksandar aca radivojević, idol mladih, (who) knows best...
A dobro, valjda se u Acine rechi unapred urachunava precutni uvod "Za tresh film," kada su u pitanju ovakva dela.
U kom sluchaju stoji i da je autorski i da je trijumf. Trijumf tresh autorskog ludila nad zdravorazumskim postulatima zhanra, scenaristichke i rezhijske veshtine.
Quote from: Ghoul on 15-12-2009, 23:37:59prećeraše ga i jedni i drugi: ovo nit je najgori film nit je mnogo dobar, nego je jedno bizarno ludilo koje je i dobro i loše na zanimljiv način.
Nešto slično sam i ja ustvrdio, s tim što mislim da bih se ipak zadržao na 2+ kao oceni...
Miloshe i Samuraju, meni zaista nije jasno šta ste vi to pronašli u H2 što ga je (makar i donekele) iskupilo.
Quote from: Ghoul on 15-12-2009, 23:37:59
ovo nit je najgori film nit je mnogo dobar, nego je jedno bizarno ludilo koje je i dobro i loše na zanimljiv način.
slažem se :))
Zanimljiva je i saobracajna nesreca... Bar ako pitate Balarda.
a balard svakako mnogo bolje zna šta je zanimljivo nego 'doktor' kunac.
Pogledao sam novi HALLOWEEN 2 Roba Zombiea. U svetu heavy metal muzičara koji su se posvetili pravljenju filmova Zombie je realno nesporan autoritet, naročito od kad je Jonas Akerlund snimio onaj generic serial killer film, Snydera nema a Gervasi se posvetio pravljenju dokumentaraca o Anvilu. H2 je nesumnjivo primer tzv. "Zombiejevog parnog filma", dakle obično bi sa nekim neparnim filmom, tipa prvim 1000 CORPSES načeo neku temu a sa drugim bi je autorski zaokružio. U slučaju HALLOWEEN 2, lovo je nesumnjivo jedan autorski projekat i mislim da je zanimljivo to što je Zombie pokušao da napravi. Problem je samo u tome što film nema previše smisla.
Naime, Zombie je već u svom prvom rimejku pokušao da malo više pokaže Michaelov origin story, a u drugom delu, na tragu SCREAM 2 bavi se uticajem Myersovog masakra na okolinu plus nastavlja putem origin storyja objašnjavajući nam kako Myers inače provodi vreme kad je nemrtav na dane kad nije njegov omiljeni praznik. Doduše, Myers nije fokus ove priče, u fokusu su junaci koji su preživeli prvi masakr, dr Loomis i ekipa i svi oni na različite načine, uglavnom bez ikakve interakcije sa Myersom leče svoje traume.
Nije ovo prvi HALLOWEEN film u kome je Myers marginalizovan, ali svakako jeste neobično da bude ovoliko marginalizovan u filmu u kome igra bitnu ulogu. Kad kažem da je marginalizovan onda pod tim mislim da ima malo njegove prepoznatljive aktivnosti, a da isto tako ima previše njegovog origina, koji je uvek bolje ostaviti netaknut.
Međutim, Zombie očigledno u pšokušaju da se razlikuje od ostalih filmova preteruje i na kraju snima HALLOWEEN koji nema naročite veze sa izvbornom franšizom, i gubi se u besmislenim digresijama što nije karaktzeristika kanona ove serije. Ono što je još važnije jeste da su te digresije tip budalaštine koji može eventualno da bude zanimljiv čitaocima stripova koji se oduševljavaju F-bomb replikama, ali realno to je sve mahom neka usiljena šega ili usiljena psihologizacija, na tragun nekakvog pseudo-realizma. Rob Zombie je ipak heavy metal pevač i nije autor tog kalibra da može da ovlada jednom tako stilizovanom žanrovskom pričom i da je učini smislenim realizmom.
Otud je H2 hendikepirana drama koja se zbog naziva sporadično trudi da bude slasher.
Sam Myers osim što je banalizovan i što mu je psihološko stanje opisano na tragu spotova Tarsema Singha, po svom modus operandiju više liči na Leatherfacea ili Jasona, nego na Myersa.
Zombie zaslužuje priznanje za svoj pokušaj bendovanja žanra, i pokušaj da prevaziđe okvire svog hellbilly kiča koji ga je proslavio. Nažalost to proširenje područja borbe mu nije pošlo od ruke i H2 je film koji je možda dragoceniji od mnogih generic slashera ali od većine nije bolji.
Takođe ne bih rekao da je H2 najgori horor koji je stigao u bioskope 2009. Čak sam i ja pogledao par gorih kandidata.
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Đavolji škart i dalje ostaje njegov najbolji film. U njemu je našao, recimo, pravu meru. Sve ovo ostalo... Plač Majke Božje.
Da, s tim da je kraj Devil's Rejects čisti kretenizam kojim je u dobroj mjeri upropastio do tog trenutka vrlo dobar film.