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Question: šta sad da jedemo?
Option 1: svinjetinu votes: 7
Option 2: teletinu votes: 1
Option 3: jaretinu votes: 0
Option 4: srnetinu votes: 2
Option 5: zečetinu votes: 0
Option 6: piletinu votes: 4
Option 7: ribetinu votes: 2
Option 8: pitu od detlića votes: 4
Option 9: tofu votes: 3
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ghoul on 26-04-2009, 02:58:39
SZO: Međunarodni značaj epidemije
26. april 2009. | 01:09 | Izvor: Beta, Tanjug

Ženeva, Vašington, Beograd -- Svetska zdravstvena organizacija preporučila je, zbog izbijanja svinjskog gripa u Meksiku i SAD, intezivno praćenje pojave bolesti nalik gripu i upali pluća.

Krizni odbor SZO zaključio je da situacija u Meksiku i SAD predstavlja vanredne okolnosti od međunarodnog značaja i da zbog toga generalna direktorka SZO Margaret Čen traži do svih zemalja "inteziviranje praćenja neobičnih pojava bolesti nalik gripu i teškoj upali pluća".

"Reagujući na slučajeve svinjskog gripa A/H1N1, zabeležnih u Meksiku i SAD, generalna direktorka je sazvala sastanak kriznog odbora da proceni situaciju i preporuči odgovarujuću rekaciju", navodi se u saopštenju.

SZO navodi da je na prvom sastanku danas održanom, nakon razmatranja dostupnih podataka, odbor ustanovio da postoje "praznine u znanju o kliničkim osobinama, epidemologiji i virologiji zabeleženih slučajeva", kao i o prikladnoj reakciji.

U Meksiku je za nekoliko dana umrlo 68 ljudi od jake upale pluća, koja se javlja kao posledica "svinjskog gripa", a sumnja se da je više od 1.000 osoba zaraženo tim virusom, koji predstavlja kombinaciju genetskog materijala svinje, ptice i čoveka kakva do sada nije viđena.

Svetska zdravstvena organizacije u subotu je saopštila da novi virus svinjskog gripa može prerasti u pandemiju.

Za vakcinu potrebni meseci?

Američki Centar za kontrolu i prevenciju bolesti upozorio je da se novi i "neuobičajni" virus takozvanog "svinjskog gripa" raširio i da ga je nemoguće zaustaviti.

"Jasno je da se virus raširio. I zato vas obaveštavamo da ne možemo da zaustavimo njegovo širenje", rekla je predstavnica tog Centra doktorka En Šuhet novinarima.

Centar je ranije saopštio da njegovi stručnjaci rade na izradi vakcine protiv nove vrste virusa, nagoveštavajući da će biti potrebni meseci za njenu izradu.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Son of Man on 26-04-2009, 09:02:38
Pan-Muslimanska zavera  :?
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ghoul on 27-04-2009, 17:04:02
SVINJE PREURANJENO OKLEVETANE?! NISU SVINJE, NEGO SEVERNOAMERIKANCI!

Novi virus nije svinjski

Virus koji se pojavio u Meksiku i SAD i koji je ubio najmanje 100 ljudi nije virus svinjske gripe, saopštila je Svjetska organizacija za zdravlje životinja (OIE)

"Virus do sada nije izolovan kod životinja. Prema tome,
nije opravdano bolesti nazivati svinjska gripa", navodi se
u saopštenju ove organizacije.

"Virus uključuje komponente karakteristične za viruse
svinjskog, ptičijeg i ljudskog gripa", navodi se u
saopštenju i dodaje da bolest treba zvati "severnoamerička
grip"
, po geografskom poreklu.

Isti izvor navodi da se mora sprovesti naučno istraživanje
koje bi utvrdilo podložnost životinja ovom "novom virusu".

Ukoliko su životinje osetljive ili podložne, cirkulacija
virusa će se pogoršati, kao i globalna zdravstvena
situacija", ističe se u saopštenju.
Title: Hm...
Post by: Tex Murphy on 27-04-2009, 19:47:04
Cool! Evo konačno apokalipse!  :!:  Umjesto zombifikacije ili virusa nalik na 28 Days Later, ljudska rasa će da izumre od svinjske gripe. How appropriate!  :D
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Eriops on 27-04-2009, 20:26:00
A kazu i Obama se rukovao s nekim meksikancem tokom
posete, i covek kasnije umro. A Obami nista.
Verovatno su ga nakljukali svacim protiv svih mogucih bolestina.
Ma na te apokalipticne scenarije, ne dajem vise ni pet para.
Te pticji grip, te svinjski grip, sunceve turbulencije, meteori,
trista cuda.. samo oce da skrenu paznju sa pravih problema covecanstva- banaka i monopola koji su doveli do krize,
pohlepe, siromastva, bede...
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: akhnaton on 28-04-2009, 10:18:52
Quote from: "tiha voda"A kazu i Obama se rukovao s nekim meksikancem tokom
posete, i covek kasnije umro. A Obami nista.
Verovatno su ga nakljukali svacim protiv svih mogucih bolestina.
Ma na te apokalipticne scenarije, ne dajem vise ni pet para.
Te pticji grip, te svinjski grip, sunceve turbulencije, meteori,
trista cuda.. samo oce da skrenu paznju sa pravih problema covecanstva- banaka i monopola koji su doveli do krize,
pohlepe, siromastva, bede...

Tiha Vodo, čitaš mi misli!!!! :)
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: scallop on 28-04-2009, 10:29:56
I ja sam se, pre dve nedelje, rukovao sa nekim meksikancima u Oklahomi. Kakve su posledice za DušMana i ostale uravnike LK sa kojima sam se rukovao sinoć? Posebno me zanima, o Tiha Vodo, ti što čitaš misli Akhnatona, kakve su šanse da ga je fasovao Smrklja (sinoć mi je bio najbliži, a i dojadio je sa svojim veselim podjebavanjem)? 8)
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 28-04-2009, 11:13:37
Quote from: "tiha voda"Te pticji grip, te svinjski grip, sunceve turbulencije, meteori,
trista cuda.. samo oce da skrenu paznju sa pravih problema covecanstva- banaka i monopola koji su doveli do krize,
pohlepe, siromastva, bede...

Juče u Dnevniku Javne kuće Srbije glavne vesti:
-uhapšen Joca Amsterdam(ekskl.uključenje reportera sa lica mesta )
-epidemija svinjskog gripa preti svetu.Ministarstvo zdravlja preduzelo sve mere predostrožnosti i situaciju drži pod kontrolom :)  
- Dinkić i Djelić obezbedili nove kredite od Svetske banke
- Ukidaju se vize za putovanja gradjana Srbije u zemlje EU
Za one mučenike iz Novog Pazara bilo je 2 minuta vremena i to pred sportski blok.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Eriops on 28-04-2009, 12:40:05
Scallope, zarazices i ovo malo ljubitelja pisane fantasticne
reci u Srbiji  :D .
Naravno, treba stvari svatiti ozbiljno, i preduzeti mere zastite,
ali nervira me ta histerija koja se stvara, secam se pticje gripe,
i onih crnih predvidjanja, jedan moj drug i dan danas odbija
jesti piletinu, a voleo je pre pticje gripe.
Imam utisak da nas ti svetski mocnici, stalno drze u nekom
strahu- bolesti, klima, opasnosti iz svemira. Razne varijante
sudnjeg dana. A pravi problemi su sto pola sveta zivi u bedi
i siromastvu.
Title: Re: Hm...
Post by: Son of Man on 28-04-2009, 13:18:02
Quote from: "Harvester"Cool! Evo konačno apokalipse!  :!:  Umjesto zombifikacije ili virusa nalik na 28 Days Later, ljudska rasa će da izumre od svinjske gripe. How appropriate!  :D
Pa lepo zavrsava Orvelova Farma, ako je izvalio Velkog Brata mozda je znao i za to : "...ali vec je bilo nemoguce raspoznati ko je svinja, a ko covek."  :shock:
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: slavkod on 28-04-2009, 13:40:13
:D  :D  :!:  :!:
Potreba za izazivanjem straha ,pa onda radikalnih mera nošenja maski,je ogromna.Kad istroše lude krave,naleti ptičiji grip,kad to prestane da bude izvor paničnog raspoloženja pojavi se svinjski grip,ali se na žalost otkrije vrlo brzo da je on u stvar severnoamerički grip.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Son of Man on 28-04-2009, 15:10:01
Znaci Orvel je ipak bio u pravu, vise se ne zna dal' je svinjski il' ljudski grip, tolko su slichni.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 28-04-2009, 15:22:58
Ja sam jedini glasao za Tofu... Gde je Kornelijus kad je najpotrebniji?
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Mica Milovanovic on 28-04-2009, 15:29:28
Možda trči?
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: slavkod on 28-04-2009, 16:54:32
:twisted:
Naravno da je bio u pravu,a američke svinje su još jednakije od drugih!
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Usul on 28-04-2009, 20:09:12
U ovoj epizodi rena i stimpija ima sjajan momenat vezan za svinje :)

Space Dogged (http://switchisiq.multiply.com/video/item/1)
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Goran Skrobonja on 28-04-2009, 21:52:05
Obratite pažnju na obrasce ponašanja WHO, našeg ministra zdravlja i svih drugih institucija pozvanih da nešto kažu o pandemiji - koliko sve liči na Bruksov SVETSKI RAT Z...
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: akhnaton on 29-04-2009, 10:11:58
Quote from: "Goran Skrobonja"Obratite pažnju na obrasce ponašanja WHO, našeg ministra zdravlja i svih drugih institucija pozvanih da nešto kažu o pandemiji - koliko sve liči na Bruksov SVETSKI RAT Z...

Pa zar ne živimo u SF&Horror vremenima? :idea:
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: scallop on 29-04-2009, 12:12:05
Quote from: "Goran Skrobonja"Obratite pažnju na obrasce ponašanja WHO, našeg ministra zdravlja i svih drugih institucija pozvanih da nešto kažu o pandemiji - koliko sve liči na Bruksov SVETSKI RAT Z...

Gorane, pročitaću ja do kraja "Svetski rat Z" i komentarisaću ga tamo gde treba. Za sada, ono što je Bruks opisao je posledica toga što svi koji znaju da govore i pišu, misle da znaju i da misle. Na primer, ovaj post između naših. :x
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ghoul on 29-04-2009, 18:37:14
svinje najebale:

U Egiptu masovno klanje svinja

Vlada u Kairu je najavila da će u Egiptu, zbog straha od novog gripa, biti poklane sve svinje.

Ministarstvo zdravlja je saopštilo da će klanje oko 300.000 svinja, koliko ih ima u Egiptu, početi odmah.
Ministarstvo je više puta ponovilo da u Egiptu nije zabeležen nijedan slučaj novog gripa, ali da su u susednom Izraelu potvrđena dva.


ili smo najebali mi?

Pomoćnik generalnog direktora Svetske zdravstvene organizacije Keidži Fukuda pozvao je sve zemlje da se pažljivo pripreme.

Fukuda je izjavio da se među zaraženima pojavila grupa obolelih studenata iz Njujorka koja nije putovala u Meksiko već se pretpostavlja da su ih virusom zarazile kolege koje su se upravo vratile iz te zemlje.

To je, prema rečima Fukude, značajno, jer nagoveštava da virus novog gripa može da se prenese sa čoveka na čoveka, čime se povećava opasnost od pandemije.

"Vrlo je moguće da ćemo, kao što je najavio Evropski centar za kontrolu i prevenciju bolesti, imati blaži oblik pandemije. To bi bila najbolja od mogućih situacija tokom koje bi se širenje zaustavilo, a virus suzbio", kaže Fukuda.

"Želim da naglasim i da je najgora pandemija XX veka bila pandemija španske groznice 1918. koja je takođe počela kao blagi oblik pandemije, odnosno virus se polako širi da bi naglo mutirao i odneo milione života. Zato mislim da treba da budemo obazrivi i da imamo u vidu činjenicu da grip može da se razvije u pravcu koji nije lako predvideti", upozorio je on.

Zvaničnici EU izjavili su da bi virus trebalo preimenovati u "novel", tj. "novi virus" umesto "svinjskog", pošto navodi na pogrešan zaključak da su svinje prenosioci i mogao bi ozbiljno da uzgrozi mesnu industriju.
Title: Hm...
Post by: Tex Murphy on 29-04-2009, 18:56:03
Cool! Ovo je sjajno! Šteta je jedino što zaraženi ljudi ne ujedaju jedni druge, ali imajući u vidu katastrofalan manjak apokaliptičnih epidemija u posljednjim godinama, nemamo pravo da se žalimo.

Inače, prvi slučaj "svinjske" gripe zabilježen je i u Hrvatskoj.
Title: Re: Hm...
Post by: Ghoul on 29-04-2009, 20:20:01
Quote from: "Harvester"Inače, prvi slučaj "svinjske" gripe zabilježen je i u Hrvatskoj.

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Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: akhnaton on 29-04-2009, 20:28:42
A oni koji neznaju da pišu i čitaju znaju da misle?!!!  :D
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Cornelius on 29-04-2009, 22:52:50
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"Ja sam jedini glasao za Tofu... Gde je Kornelijus kad je najpotrebniji?

Meho, nisi više sâm. I ja sam glasao za tofu, te smo ga tako doveli na treće mesto. Valjda će se naći još jedan pravoveran, pa da nam se pridruži.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 30-04-2009, 10:41:03
Is Swine Flu A Biological Weapon?

Or are relatively limited number of deaths an indication that the panic is worse than the actual threat?


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Paul Joseph Watson
Saturday, April 25, 2009


Swine flu panic is spreading in Mexico and soldiers are patrolling the streets after it was confirmed that human to human transmission is occurring and that the virus is a brand new strain which is seemingly affecting young, healthy people the worst, and that the bug is a never-before-seen intercontinental mixture of human, avian and pig viruses from America, Europe and Asia.

Clues that the virus may be a synthetic creation are already manifesting.

According to reports, the virus is  a "never-before-seen form of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses" which consists of an intercontinental mix of viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

"CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before," according to an Associated Press report.

"This strain of swine influenza that's been cultured in a laboratory is something that's not been seen anywhere actually in the United States and the world, so this is actually a new strain of influenza that's been identified," said Dr. John Carlo, Dallas Co. Medical Director (video clip here).

Alarming reports are now filtering in about people catching the illness who have had no contact with pigs whatsoever. These include a man and his daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County and two teenagers in San Antonio, Texas. In fact, in all U.S. cases, the victims had no contact with any pigs.

Dr. Wilma Wooten, San Diego County's public health officer, told KPBS "We have had person-to-person spread with the father and the daughter," says Wooten, "And also with the two teenagers in Texas, they were in the same school. So that also indicates person-to-person transfer."

"Dr. Wooten says it's unclear how people were exposed to swine flu. She says none of the patients have had any contact with pigs," according to the report.

Although the situation in the U.S. looks under control, panic is spreading in Mexico, where 800 cases of pneumonia in the capital alone are suspected to be related to the swine flu and the virus has hit young and healthy people, which is very rare with an flu outbreak. Despite the danger of a pandemic, the U.S. border with Mexico remains open.

"Mexico has shut schools and museums and canceled hundreds of public events in its sprawling, overcrowded capital of 20 million people to try to prevent further infections," reports Reuters.

"My level of concern is significant," said Dr. Martin Fenstersheib, the health officer for Santa Clara County. "We have a novel virus, a brand-new strain that's spreading human to human, and we are also seeing a virulent strain in Mexico that seems to be related. We certainly have concerns for this escalating."

The WHO insists that the outbreak has "pandemic potential" and has been stockpiling supplies of Tamiflu, known generically as oseltamivir, a pill that can both treat flu and prevent infection, according to officials.

As we previously highlighted, those that have a stake in the Tamiflu vaccine include top globalists and BIlderberg members like George Shultz, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink and former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Indeed, Rumsfeld himself played a key role in hyping an outbreak of swine flu back in the 1976 when he urged the entire country to get vaccinated. Many batches of the vaccine were contaminated, resulting in hundreds of sick people and 52 fatalities.

The fact that the properties of the strain are completely new, that the virus is spreading from people to people, and that the young and healthy are being hit worst, has disturbing parallels to the deadly 1918 pandemic that killed millions.

It is unclear as to why, if the virus is a brand new strain, that public health officials are so confident programs of mass vaccination, which are already being prepared, would necessarily be effective.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that deadly flu viruses have been concocted in labs and then dispatched with the intention of creating a pandemic.

When the story first broke last month, Czech newspapers questioned if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

Since the probability of mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible, this leaves no other explanation than that the contamination was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.


However, this is not the first time that vaccine companies have been caught distributing vaccines contaminated with deadly viruses.

In 2006 it was revealed that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States.

In the UK, a 2007 outbreak of foot and mouth disease that put Britain on high alert has been originated from a government laboratory which is shared with an American pharmaceutical company, mirroring the deadly outbreak of 2001, which was also deliberately released.

As we reported yesterday, last time there was a significant outbreak of a new form of swine flu in the U.S. it originated at the army base at Fort Dix, New Jersey.


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There are some factors that suggest the swine flu killing people in Mexico may be a biological weapon, but obviously no such conclusion can be drawn at this time. The World Health Organization and the U.S. government have been quick to deny such claims.

The swine flu virus is described as a completely new strain, an intercontinental mixture of human, avian and swine viruses. Tellingly, there have been no reported A-H1N1 infections of pigs.

According to a source known to former NSA official Wayne Madsen, "A top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission "vectors" that suggest that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon.

Madsen claims that his source, and another in Indonesia, "Are convinced that the current outbreak of a new strain of swine flu in Mexico and some parts of the United States is the result of the introduction of a human-engineered pathogen that could result in a widespread global pandemic, with potentially catastrophic consequences for domestic and international travel and commerce."

However, it's important to stress that it is far too early to make this assumption. We have to bear in mind that the number of victims has been comparatively low when one considers the fact that hundreds of thousands in Mexico contract infectious diseases every year related to poverty like tuberculosis and malaria.

Fort Detrick, the U.S. Army Medical Command installation that was the source of the 2001 anthrax attacks, is again attracting suspicion in light of the swine flu panic after it was revealed that criminal investigators are probing whether virus samples recently went missing from its biolabs.

"Chad Jones, spokesman for Fort Meade, said CID is investigating the possibility of missing virus samples from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases," reports The Frederick News.

In February, USAMRIID halted their work when virus samples were discovered that were not listed in its inventory. Criminal investigators from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division unit at Fort Meade are now probing whether virus samples are missing from the Army's top biolab, which also studies pathogens including ebola, anthrax and plague.

Obviously, in light of the current swine flu scare, and the new strain's possible synthetic origin, the fact that virus samples may have gone missing from the same Army research lab from which the 2001 anthrax strain was released is extremely disturbing.

A 2008 FBI and DOJ investigation concluded that Bruce Edwards Irvins, a microbiologist, vaccinologist, and senior biodefense researcher at the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) in Fort Detrick, Maryland, was responsible for mailing anthrax to members of Congress and the media in September and October 2001.

The fact that Irvins apparently committed suicide shortly before the announcement led many to suspect that he was a patsy in a wider plot. Despite the suspicious circumstances, no autopsy was carried out on Irvins' body. His attorney was certain that Irvins, who had cooperated with the 6-year investigation, was innocent of the five anthrax deaths.

The Department of Justice initially considered Dr. Steven Jay Hatfill to be a strong suspect in the anthrax attacks, but he later sued the government and won $5.8 million in damages. A New York Times piece on Irvins' suicide asked the hypothetical question: "What if Dr. Hatfill had committed suicide in 2002, as friends feared he might? Would the investigators have released their evidence and announced that the perpetrator was dead?"

Fears that a mass pandemic was being readied as a biological attack have rumbled on in the conspiracy community ever since 9/11. Investigators point to the highly unusual number of deaths of top microbiologists to suggest that people with knowledge of the program are being eliminated.
Title: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ghoul on 30-04-2009, 11:31:52
"It really is all of humanity that is under threat during a pandemic," WHO (World Health Organization) Director General Margaret Chan said in Geneva. "We do not have all the answers right now, but we will get them."

The virus, a mix of pig, bird and human genes to which people have limited natural immunity, had spread to at least nine countries. In the United States, nearly 100 have been sickened in 11 states.

The U.S., the European Union and other countries have discouraged nonessential travel to Mexico. Some countries have urged their citizens to avoid the United States and Canada as well. Health officials said such bans would do little to stop the virus.

Germany and Austria became the latest countries to report swine flu infections Wednesday, with cases already confirmed in Canada, Britain, Israel, New Zealand and Spain.

In addition to the 168 suspected deaths — including 17 new ones announced late Wednesday — the virus is believed to have sickened 2,498 people across Mexico. But only 1,311 suspected swine flu patients remained hospitalized, and a closer look at daily admissions and deaths at Mexico's public hospitals suggests the outbreak may have peaked during three grim days last week when thousands of people complained of flu symptoms.
Swine flu has symptoms nearly identical to regular flu — fever, cough and sore throat — and spreads like regular flu, through tiny particles in the air, when people cough or sneeze. People with flu symptoms are advised to stay at home, wash their hands and cover their sneezes.

While epidemiologists stress it is humans, not pigs, who are spreading the disease, sales have plunged for pork producers around the world. Egypt began slaughtering its roughly 300,000 pigs on Wednesday, even though no cases have been reported there. WHO says eating pork is safe, but Mexicans have even cut back on their beloved greasy pork tacos.

=ja se oslanjam na ove gornje podatke, da je u pitanju MEXIČKA, odnosno SEVERNOAMERIČKA, odnosno NOVELISTIČKA GROZNICA u pitanju, a ne SVINJSKA, te sebi za 1. maj kupih pečeno prasence od kojih 18 kila za neto cenu od 6.100 din (sve gotovo, pečeno, sređeno, samo da se jede) – evo, jutros mi je stiglo, već sam ga probao, i deluje mi sasvim zdravo.
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Post by: дејан on 30-04-2009, 11:44:08
Flying Pigs, Tamiflu and Factory Farms
F. William Engdahl
Global Research
April 29, 2009

If we are to believe what our trusted international media report, the world is on the brink of a global pandemic outbreak of a new deadly strain of flu, H1N1 as it has been labelled, or more popularly, Swine Flu. As the story goes, the outbreak of the deadly flu was first discovered in Mexico. According to press reports, after several days, headlines reported as many as perhaps 150 deaths in Mexico were believed caused by this virulent people-killing pig virus that has spread to humans and now is allegedly being further spread from human to human. Cases were being reported hourly from Canada to Spain and beyond. The only thing wrong with this story is that it is largely based on lies, hype and coverup of possible real causes of Mexican deaths.

One website, revealingly named Swine Flu Vaccine, reports the alarming news, 'One out of every five residents of Mexico's most populous city wore masks to protect themselves against the virus as Mexico City seems to be the epicenter of the outbreak. As many as 103 deaths have been attributed to the swine flu so far with many more feared to be on the horizon. The health department of Mexico said an additional 1,614 reported cases have been documented.' We are told that the H1N1 'shares genetic material from human, avian and swine influenza viruses.'1
Airports around the world have installed passenger temperature scans to identify anyone with above normal body temperature as possible suspect for swine flu. Travel to Mexico has collapsed. Sales of flu vaccines, above all Tamiflu from Roche Inc., have exploded in days. People have stopped buying pork fearing certain death. The World Health Organization has declared  a 'a public health emergency of international concern,' defined by them as 'an occurrence or imminent threat of illness or health conditions caused by bioterrorism, epidemic or pandemic disease, or highly fatal infectious agents or toxins that pose serious risk to a significant number of people.'2
What are the symptoms of this purported Swine Flu? That's not at all clear according to virologists and public health experts. They say Swine Flu symptoms are relatively general and nonspecific. 'So many different things can cause these symptoms. it is a dilemma,' says one doctor interviewed by CNN. 'There is not a perfect test right now to let a doctor know that a person has the Swine Flu.' It has been noted that most individuals with Swine Flu had an early on set of fever. Also it was common to see dizziness, body aches and vomiting in addition to the common sneezing, headache and other cold symptoms. These are symptoms so general as to say nothing.
The US Government's Center for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta states on its official website, 'Swine Influenza (swine flu) is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza viruses that causes regular outbreaks in pigs. People do not normally get swine flu, but human infections can and do happen. Swine flu viruses have been reported to spread from person-to-person, but in the past, this transmission was limited and not sustained beyond three people.' Nonetheless they add, 'CDC has determined that this swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is contagious and is spreading from human to human. However, at this time, it is not known how easily the virus spreads between people.'3
How many media that have grabbed on the headline 'suspected case of Swine Flu' in recent days bother to double check with the local health authorities to ask some basic questions? For example, the number of confirmed cases of H1N1 and their location? The number of deaths confirmed to have resulted from H1N1? Dates of both? Number of suspected cases and of suspected deaths related to the Swine Flu disease?

Some known facts

According to Biosurveillance, itself part of Veratect, a US Pentagon and Government-linked epidemic reporting center, on April 6, 2009 local health officials declared a health alert due to a respiratory disease outbreak in La Gloria, Perote Municipality, Veracruz State, Mexico.
They reported, 'Sources characterized the event as a 'strange' outbreak of acute respiratory infection, which led to bronchial pneumonia in some pediatric cases. According to a local resident, symptoms included fever, severe cough, and large amounts of phlegm. Health officials recorded 400 cases that sought medical treatment in the last week in La Gloria, which has a population of 3,000; officials indicated that 60% of the town's population (approximately 1,800 cases) has been affected. No precise timeframe was provided, but sources reported that a local official had been seeking health assistance for the town since February.' What they later say is 'strange' is not the form of the illness but the time of year as most  flu cases occur in Mexico in the period October to February.
The report went on to note, 'Residents claimed that three pediatric cases, all under two years of age, died from the outbreak. However, health officials stated that there was no direct link between the pediatric deaths and the outbreak; they stated the three fatal cases were "isolated" and "not related" to each other.'
Then, most revealingly, the aspect of the story which has been largely ignored by major media, they reported, 'Residents believed the outbreak had been caused by contamination from pig breeding farms located in the area. They believed that the farms, operated by Granjas Carroll, polluted the atmosphere and local water bodies, which in turn led to the disease outbreak. According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to "flu." However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.'4
Since the dawn of American 'agribusiness,' a project initiated with funding by the Rockefeller Foundation in the 1950's to turn farming into a pure profit maximization business, US pig or hog production has been transformed into a highly efficient, mass production industrialized enterprise from birth to slaughter. Pigs are caged in what are called Factory Farms, industrial concentrations which are run with the efficiency of a Dachau or Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. They are all conceived by artificial insemination and once born, are regularly injected with antibiotics, not because of illnesses which abound in the hyper-crowded growing pens, but in order to make them grow and add weight faster. Turn around time to slaughter is a profit factor of highest priority. The entire operation is vertically integrated from conception to slaughter to transport distribution to supermarket.
Granjas Carroll de Mexico (GCM) happens to be such a Factory Farm concentration facility for hogs. In 2008 they produced almost one million factory hogs, 950,000 according to their own statistics. GCM is a joint venture operation owned 50% by the world's largest pig producing industrial company, Smithfield Foods of Virginia.5 The pigs are grown in a tiny rural area of Mexico, a member of the North American Free Trade Agreement, and primarily trucked across the border to supermarkets in the USA, under the Smithfields' family of labels. Most American consumers have no idea where the meat was raised.

Now the story becomes interesting.

Manure Lagoons and other playing fields

The Times of London interviewed the mother of 4-year-old Edgar Hernandez of La Gloria in Veracruz, the location of the giant Smithfield Foods hog production facility. Their local reporter notes, 'Edgar Hernández plays among the dogs and goats that roam through the streets, seemingly unaware that the swine flu he contracted a few weeks ago — the first known case — has almost brought his country to a standstill and put the rest of the world on alert. 'I feel great,' the five-year-old boy said. 'But I had a headache and a sore throat and a fever for a while. I had to lay down in bed.''
The reporters add, 'It was confirmed on Monday (April 27 2009-w.e.) that Edgar was the first known sufferer of swine flu, a revelation that has put La Gloria and its surrounding factory pig farms and 'manure lagoons' at the centre of a global race to find how this new and deadly strain of swine flu emerged.' 6
That's quite interesting. They speak of 'La Gloria and its surrounding factory pig farms and 'manure lagoons.'' Presumably the manure lagoons around the LaGloria factory pig farm of Smithfield Foods are the waste dumping place for the feces and urine waste from at least 950,000 pigs a year that pass through the facility. The Smithfield's Mexico joint venture, Norson, states that alone they slaughter 2,300 pigs daily. That's a lot. It gives an idea of the volumes of pig waste involved in the concentration facility at La Gloria.
Significantly, according to the Times reporters, 'residents of La Gloria have been complaining since March that the odour from Granjas Carroll's pig waste was causing severe respiratory infections. They held a demonstration this month at which they carried signs of pigs crossed with an X and marked with the word peligro (danger).'7 There have been calls to exhume the bodies of the children who died of pneumonia so that they could be tested. The state legislature of Veracruz has demanded that Smithfield's Granjas Carroll release documents about its waste-handling practices. Smithfield Foods reportedly declined to comment on the request, saying that it would 'not respond to rumours.'8
A research compilation by Ed Harris reported, 'According to residents, the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to 'flu.' However, a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.'9 That would imply that the entire Swine Flu scare might have originated from the PR spin doctors of the world's largest industrial pig factory farm operation, Smithfield Foods.
The Vera Cruz-based newspaper La Marcha blames Smithfield's Granjos Carroll for the outbreak, highlighting inadequate treatment of massive quantities of animal waste from hog production.10
Understandably the company is perhaps more than a bit uncomfortable with the sudden attention. The company, which supplies the McDonald's and Subway fast-food chains, was fined $12.3 million in the United States 1997 for violating the Clean Water Act. Perhaps they are in a remote tiny Mexican rural area enjoying a relatively lax regulatory climate where they need not worry about being cited for violations of any Clean Water Act.

Factory Farms as toxic concentrations

At the very least the driving force for giant industrial agribusiness outsourcing of facilities to third world sites such as Veracruz, Mexico has more to do with further cost reduction and lack of health and safety scrutiny than it does with improving the health and safety quality of the food end product. It has been widely documented and subject of US Congressional reports that large-scale indoor animal production facilities such as that of Granjos Carroll are notorious breeding grounds for toxic pathogens.
A recent report by the US Pew Foundation in cooperation with the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health notes, 'the method of producing food animals in the United States has changed from the extensive system of small and medium-sized farms owned by a single family to a system of large, intensive operations where the animals are housed in large numbers in enclosed structures that resemble industrial buildings more than they do a traditional barn. That change has happened primarily out of view of consumers but has come at a cost to the environment and a negative impact on public health, rural communities, and the health and well-being of the animals themselves. 11
The Pew study notes, 'The diversified, independent, family-owned farms of 40 years ago that produced a variety of crops and a few animals are disappearing as an economic entity, replaced by much larger, and often highly leveraged, farm factories. The animals that many of these farms produce are owned by the meat packing companies from the time they are born or hatched right through their arrival at the processing plant and from there to market.' 12  
The study emphasizes that application of 'untreated animal waste on cropland can contribute to excessive nutrient loading, contaminate surface waters, and stimulate bacteria and algal growth and subsequent reductions in dissolved oxygen concentrations in surface waters.'13
That is where the real investigation ought to begin, with the health and sanitary dangers of the industrial factory pig farms like the one at Perote in Veracruz. The media spread of panic-mongering reports of every person in the world who happens to contract 'symptoms' which vaguely resemble flu or even Swine Flu and the statements to date of authorities such as WHO or CDC are far from conducive to a rational scientific investigation..

Tamiflu and Rummy

In October 2005 the Pentagon ordered vaccination of all US military personnel worldwide against what it called Avian Flu, H5N1. Scare stories filled world media. Then, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced he had budgeted more than $1 billion to stockpile the vaccine, Oseltamivir sold under the name, Tamiflu. President Bush called on Congress to appropriate another $2 billion for Tamiflu stocks.
What Rumsfeld neglected to report at the time was a colossal conflict of interest. Prior to coming to Washington in January 2001, Rumsfeld had been chairman of a California pharmaceutical company, Gilead Sciences. Gilead Sciences held exclusive world patent rights to Tamiflu, a drug it had developed and whose world marketing rights were sold to the Swiss pharma giant, Roche. Rumsfeld was reportedly the largest stock holder in Gilead which got 10% of every Tamiflu dose Roche sold. 14 When it leaked out, the Pentagon issued a curt statement to the effect that Secretary Rumsfeld had decided not to sell but to retain his stock in Gilead, claiming that to sell would have indicated something to hide.' That agonizing decision won him reported added millions as the Gilead share price soared more than 700% in weeks.  
Tamiflu is no mild candy to be taken lightly. It has heavy side effects. It contains matter that could have potentially deadly consequences for a person's breathing and often reportedly leads to nausea, dizziness and other flu-like symptoms.
Since the outbreak of Swine Flu Panic (not Swine Flu but Swine Flu Panic) sales of Tamiflu as well as any and every possible drug marketed as flu related have exploded. Wall Street firms have rushed to issue 'buy' recommendations for the company. 'Gimme me a shot Doc, I don't care what it is...I don' wanna die...'
Panic and fear of death was used by the Bush Administration skilfully to promote the Avian Flu fraud. With ominous echoes of the current Swine Flu scare, Avian Flu was traced back to huge chicken factory farms in Thailand and other parts of Asia whose products were shipped across the world. Instead of a serious investigation into the sanitary conditions of those chicken factory farms, the Bush Administration and WHO blamed 'free-roaming chickens' on small family farms, a move that had devastating economic consequences to the farmers whose chickens were being raised in the most sanitary natural conditions. Tyson Foods of Arkansas and CG Group of Thailand reportedly smiled all the way to the bank.
Now it remains to be seen if the Obama Administration will use the scare around so-called Swine Flu to repeat the same scenario, this time with 'flying pigs' instead of flying birds. Already Mexican authorities have reported that the number of deaths confirmed from so-called Swine Flu is 7 not the 150 or more bandied in the media and that most other suspected cases were ordinary flu or influenza....

To be continued....
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Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 30-04-2009, 11:50:48
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Post by: Meho Krljic on 30-04-2009, 12:27:53
Quote from: "Cornelius"
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"Ja sam jedini glasao za Tofu... Gde je Kornelijus kad je najpotrebniji?

Meho, nisi više sâm. I ja sam glasao za tofu, te smo ga tako doveli na treće mesto. Valjda će se naći još jedan pravoveran, pa da nam se pridruži.

Moramo se držati zajedno u ovim... svinjskim vremenima.
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Post by: scallop on 30-04-2009, 15:04:13
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"
Moramo se držati zajedno u ovim... svinjskim vremenima.

Ja još nisam glasao. Više poštujem soju kao stočnu hranu. :wink:
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Post by: Cornelius on 30-04-2009, 15:12:46
Quote from: "scallop"Više poštujem soju kao stočnu hranu. :wink:

Soja je super-hrana. Verovatno, pored psenice, jedna od najboljih namirnica na planeti. To sto je ti ne postujes, ukazuje samo na stepen tvoje dekadencije.
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Post by: Meho Krljic on 30-04-2009, 15:13:44
Koju (dekadenciju), da ne bude zabune, cenimo i pozdravljamo.
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Post by: Cornelius on 30-04-2009, 15:15:01
Cenimo, ali ne pozdravljamo i ne podrzavamo.
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Post by: Father Jape on 30-04-2009, 22:47:27
Evo ga jedan razboritiji pogled na celo zamesateljstvo:

http://www.vancouversun.com/Health/much+knowledge+exaggerate+danger+pandemic/1540616/story.html
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Post by: scallop on 30-04-2009, 23:25:10
Quote from: "Cornelius"To sto je ti ne postujes, ukazuje samo na stepen tvoje dekadencije.

Ja ne mogu da budem dekadentan, jer u kući nemam kadu. U to si se uverio. Javi se kad Tofu l'eveque, tofumbert i roquetofu budu na vrhu liste sireva koje jedeš. Dotle, uživaj u imitacijama jela i sećaj se onog komadića jagnjetine koji si pojeo kod mene.  :lol:
Title: Hm...
Post by: Tex Murphy on 01-05-2009, 00:15:03
Joj kad se ladno ispostavi da svinjske gripe nema jedino u Srbiji i Bosni i kad mnogobrojni civilizovani puk navali u ove naše primitivne zemlje, a onda im mi fino uvalimo vizni režim!  :!:  Pa da bi došli ovamo moraju fino da imaju pasoš koji važi najmanje tri mjeseca nakon datuma izlaska iz zemlje, zatim da uplate ooooooooooogromno zdravstveno osiguranje, garantno pismo nekog odavde se podrazumijeva, zatim potvrda o zaposlenju, svi živi i mrtvi dokumenti o nekretninama, potvrda o bankovnom računu sa najmanje 30000 maraka, kopija saobraćajne dozvole, sve to naravno da se ovjeri u sudu, zatim da se fino uplati nekih četrdesetak eura za vizu za koju ne mogu da budu sigurni da će je uopšte dobiti i onda, ako je eventualno dobiju, važi sedmicu dana. Ha, that'll be the day! Kad to doživim, moći ću da umrem s osmijehom na licu. Evropo, nosi se u VRAŽIJU MATER!
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Post by: Cornelius on 01-05-2009, 00:15:17
Scallope, sirevi su mi na dnu liste jelovnika. Njih i jaja jedem jako malo (osim u Srbiji za vreme Uskršnjih praznika), a tokom 6 meseci posta ni malo. Znači, više sam zainteresovan za soju, pšenicu, pasulj, krompir, pirinač, sočivo, grašak, bob, kupus, karfiol, brokoli, luk, boraniju, masline, paprike, paradajz, krastavac... i da ne nabrajam više.

Što se tiče komadića jagnjetine koji sam probao, bio je zaista odličan (časna vegetarijanska reč), kao i kapama sa spanaćem u kojoj sam izbegao meso, ali je soft bio, jelte, pomešan sa mesnim softom.

Inače, kozji sir je odličan, a kajmak sam probao večeras, posle kuskusa. Namazao sam ga na baget od intergralnog brašna. Slažu se ko braća Bajić. Bilo je zaliveno jednim burgundcem (pinot noir) koji je srećom mladji, pa nije poklopio kajmak, nego se i on sa njim dosta dobro složio.  
xcheers
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Post by: cutter on 02-05-2009, 01:37:17
Blast... or should I say pras from the past:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e83_1240893103

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Post by: Джон Рейнольдс on 02-05-2009, 02:45:14
Čitam danas da Era Ojdanić kaže da smo mi ekološki čista država, da on drži svinje i da im ništa nije niti će im biti, a da odsad jede samo svinjetinu i da će svojim stamenim zdravljem dokazati da je sva ova halabuka samo običan bulšit. Verujem Eri. Sećam se, u doba zozovače moj stari drinking-buddy Đole Panter je naprasno počeo da se naliva svakojakom lozom i ništa mu nije bilo. U prvom naletu ptičjeg gripa, skeptičan as ever, išao sam u lokalni kineski restoran i tamo redovno jeo piletinu sa svačim i ništa mi nije bilo.

Ako mene neko pita, a ne pita me, frku oko svinjskog gripa diže proizvođač "tamiflua", ko god da je. Odavno nije bilo tih gripova sa životinjskim prefiksima, pa se narod opustio i prestao da kupuje.
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Post by: Alexdelarge on 02-05-2009, 13:15:18
Mozda Era ne jede gripozne svinje, nego samo one koje su pucale od zdravlja dok nisu bile zaklane.
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Post by: Tex Murphy on 05-05-2009, 17:25:11
Heh, neko je na ovom sajtu postavio vijest o izvjesnom zombi virusu.

http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_15075.html

Naravno, u pitanju je bio hoax, ali interesantni su komentari posjetilaca, koji su redom razočarani što (još uvijek) nema prave zombi apokalipse.
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Post by: Ygg on 05-05-2009, 22:46:11
http://www.swinefighter.com/
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Post by: mafija_x on 06-05-2009, 22:00:23
Quote: KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's only known pig has been locked in a room, away from visitors to Kabul zoo where it normally grazes beside deer and goats, because people are worried it could infect them with the virus popularly known as swine flu.

The pig is a curiosity in Muslim Afghanistan, where pork and pig products are illegal because they are considered irreligious, and has been in quarantine since Sunday after visitors expressed alarm it could spread the new flu strain.

"For now the pig is under quarantine, we built it a room because of swine influenza," Aziz Gul Saqib, director of Kabul Zoo, told Reuters. "We've done this because people are worried about getting the flu."

Worldwide, more than 1,000 people have been infected with the virus, according to the World Health Organization, which also says 26 people have so far died from the strain. All but one of the deaths were in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak.

There are no pig farms in Afghanistan and no direct civilian flights between Kabul and Mexico.

"We understand that, but most people don't have enough knowledge. When they see the pig in the cage they get worried and think that they could get ill," Saqib said.

The pig was a gift to the zoo from China, which itself quarantined some 70 Mexicans, 26 Canadians and four Americans in the past week, but later released them.

Some visitors were not concerned about the fate of the pig and said locking it away was probably for the best.

"Influenza is quite contagious and if it passes between people and animals then there's no need for the pig to be here," zoo visitor Farzana said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE5444XQ20090505
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Post by: zakk on 07-05-2009, 01:39:59
Kako mediji smaraju sa ovime...

Svinjski grip postoji otkad je i svinja. Zabeleženo je da je na čoveka prešao 50ak puta u poslednjih 50 godina, sa sličnim učinkom kao "obični" grip.

Ovu sad "epidemiju" izaziva varijanta virusa gripa tipa A (najčešćeg uzročnika gripa), a ta varijanta ima određene genetske sličnosti sa virusom svinjskog gripa. Dakle nije u pitanju nikakav "svinjski grip" nego varijanta ljudskog gripa. Dalje, nijeda svinja se nije od njega razbolela, niti ga prenela na čoveka. Opasnost preti SAMO I JEDINO OD LJUDI, NIKAKO OD SVINJA. U multimilionskom Meksiko-sitiju zanemarljiv promil ljudi se razboleo i umro. Čim se makne u predele sa iole boljim zdravstvom i sami simptom su drastično manje ozbiljni, sa skoro nimalo smrtnih ishoda.

Trenutno najsvežiji izveštaj sa sajta Svetske zdravstvene ogranizacije:
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/updates/en/index.html

QuoteInfluenza A(H1N1) - update 18

6 May 2009 -- As of 16:00 GMT, 6 May 2009, 23 countries have officially reported 1893 cases of influenza A (H1N1) infection.

Mexico has reported 942 laboratory confirmed human cases of infection, including 29 deaths. The United States has reported 642 laboratory confirmed human cases, including two deaths.
The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (165), China, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (1), Colombia (1), Costa Rica (1), Denmark (1), El Salvador (2), France (5), Germany (9), Guatemala (1), Ireland (1), Israel (4), Italy (5), Netherlands (1), New Zealand (5), Portugal (1), Republic of Korea (2), Spain (73), Sweden (1), Switzerland (1) and the United Kingdom (28).

WHO is not recommending travel restrictions related to the outbreak of the influenza A(H1N1) virus.

Individuals who are ill should delay travel plans and returning travellers who fall ill should seek appropriate medical care. These recommendations are prudent measures which can limit the spread of many communicable diseases, including influenza.

Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO website on a regular basis.

Nema mesta panici niti prosekuciji i diskriminaciji prasića!

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Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: zakk on 07-05-2009, 18:20:54
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stigle i majice!  :!:
da ne kažem tmajice (http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/index.php?topic=2632) :)
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: slavkod on 14-05-2009, 12:23:33
Indikativno je da niko ne pominje činjenicu da je Meksiko najveći izvoznik svinjskog mesa na severno američkom kontinentu.Istorija nas uči da treba da budemo oprezni u poverenju prema zvaničnim izveštajuima i nalazima institucija sa zvučnim imenima.U vreme dok je Srbija još bila ozbiljni izvoznik u Evropi je u Zemunu postojao kontumac.Srpske svinje i goveda su uvek epidemično obolevala od šapa,slinavke i svinjske kuge kad god je trebalo izvršiti neki politički pritisak na državu.
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ghoul on 14-05-2009, 13:06:11
to su sigurno bile psihosomatske epidemije: čuju svinje pritiskaju im državu, prete, ucenjuju, pa se razbole baš tad kad ne treba!
psihološki rat sa svinjama, eto šta je to!
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Meho Krljic on 14-05-2009, 14:27:03
Ukratko: svinjarije!!!
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: scallop on 14-05-2009, 15:58:57
Svinje su pametne, gotovo kao ljudi. Zato se neki ljudi ponašaju kao svinje.
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: zakk on 21-05-2009, 14:51:08
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Sa Beležnice Peđe Supurovića :)
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 21-05-2009, 15:11:11
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Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Alexdelarge on 04-06-2009, 00:41:38
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Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 15-07-2009, 16:18:53
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Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: EKSTREMISTA on 22-07-2009, 11:53:12
Novinarka tužila SZO i UN zbog novog gripa


Austrijska novinarka Džejn Burgermejster nedavno je podnela krivičnu prijavu protiv Svetske zdravstvene organizacije (SZO), Ujedinjenih nacija (UN), nekoliko visokih američkih državnih zvaničnika, kao i nekoliko farmaceutskih kompanija, zbog zločinačkog udruživanja, zavere, bioterorizma i zločina protiv čovečanstva


Ona tvrdi da ima dokaze da su virusi ptičjeg i svinjskog gripa namerno pušteni u ,,promet", kako bi pola sveta pomrlo, a pojedinci zaradili na vakcini.

Na listi optuženih koju je Burgermejsterova dostavila Federalnom istražnom birou (FBI) našle su se farmaceutske kompanije ,,Bakster", ,,Novartis" i ,,Avir grin hils biotehnolodži". Na spisku austrijske novinarke su, između ostalih, američki predsednik Barak Obama, koordinator UN za grip Dejvid Nabaro, direktorka SZO Margaret Čen, američki državni sekretar za zdravstvo Kejtlin Sibelius, sekretar za državnu bezbednost Dženet Napolitano, zatim bankari Dejvid Rotšild, Dejvid Rokfeler i Džordž Soroš, pa slede austrijski kancelar Verner Fejman i austrijski ministar zdravstva Alojz Stoger.

Novinarka Burgermejster je sve navedene optužila da su se u doba globalne finansijske krize zajednički dogovorili da naprave biološko oružje da bi smanjili broj stanovnika širom sveta i profitirali na tome.


Uskoro mutacije

Nemački naučnici saopštili su da postoji veći rizik da ljudi počnu da prenose virus A (H1N1) na svinje, što bi moglo da dovede do daljeg mešanja sojeva virusa i nepredvidljivih promena bolesti koju on izaziva.

Već postoji šačica slučajeva kod kojih se sumnja da je novi grip prenesen sa čoveka na svinje, a nemačko istraživanje ukazuje da je takav put infekcije moguć i da bi ona mogla rapidno da se širi među životinjama.


Austrijanka je još 8. aprila državnom tužilaštvu u Beču podnela tužbu u kojoj farmaceutske kompanije tereti za proizvodnju i distribuciju biološkog oružja za masovno uništenje. Ona tvrdi da ima dokaze da su virusi ptičjeg i svinjskog gripa namerno pušteni da bi kompanije profitirale na vakcini. Burgermejsterova je, takođe, najavila da će od američkog sudstva tražiti zabranu obavezne vakcinacije protiv svinjskog gripa.

Austrijska novinarka je u tužbi priložila dokaze o tome da je farmaceutska kompanija ,,Bakster" u Austriji, u 16 laboratorija u četiri zemlje, poslala 72 kilograma aktivnog virusa ptičjeg gripa, kojim ih je snabdela SZO. Pri tom, nisu primenjene nikakve metode bezbednosti koje su propisane za transport opasnih materija, posebno biološkog oružja.

Novinarka je navela i to da je Svetska zdravstvena organizacija objavila da je svinjski grip nezaustavljiv, tako da je dala zeleno svetlo svim proizvođačima lekova u svetu da počnu sa proizvodnjom vakcine.

Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Ygg on 02-09-2009, 23:58:14
QuoteSvinski grip vakcina recite joj NE!

WAKE UP AMERIKA

Zamolio bi moderatora da izdvoji temu jer je od strateskog značaja za ljudski zivot, jer se ne radi o teoriji zavere već je dokazana istina postoje dokumenti neoborljivi dokazi da se radi o međunarodnom kriminalnom sindikatu koji želi da kontrolise naše slobodu i sudbinu.

Dragi moji prijatelji,

WARNING!!!!

Imam ljudsku obavezu da vas obavestim i eventualno ako mogu rečima ,da vas sprečim da se ne vakcinisete protiv SWINE FLU influenza, da ne nasednete na laži koje nam servira NWO sa jednim jedinim ciljem a to je smanjivanje broja stanovnika na planeti radi totalne kontrole ljudske populacije i dominacije nad njom.

O cemu se radi,setite se epidemije svinskog gripa (SWINE FLU) iz 1976 godine. Postoje dokazi da su ljudi nakon vakcinacije, razboljevali u umirali od svako jakih virusa koji su bili u vakcini a kada je prevara odkrivena država Amerika je odbijala da plati kompezaciju ostecenima jer su se ogradjivali da ništa nisu znali o tome, i ako su znali šta rade, to im je bio probni test za ono tek sto predstoji u buducnosti. lagali su svoj narod s jednim ciljem a to je genocid nad sobstvenim narodom i u budocnosti nad celim stanovnistvom ove planete.
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Nastavak imate ovdje:
http://www3.serbiancafe.com/lat/diskusije/mesg/163/014040551/svinski-grip-vakcina-recite-joj-ne.html?2 (http://www3.serbiancafe.com/lat/diskusije/mesg/163/014040551/svinski-grip-vakcina-recite-joj-ne.html?2)

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Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Alexdelarge on 30-10-2009, 17:25:20
Pravda za H1N1 !!!
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: slavko on 30-10-2009, 18:29:15
Džabe je sve to upozoravanje kada stanovništvo naplašeno.Setite se kako su zamračivali prozore i nisu izlazili na ulicu zbog pomračenja sunca.Primali bi oni i destilovanu vodu i vazduh u venu kada bi im televizije i novine to sugerisale.Juče je u autobusu za Grocku jedan uplašeni ,ali zdrav i jak građanin u jednom trenutku panično tražio od vozača da zaustavi autobus i otvori vrata.Zatim je zgrabio jednog čičicu i izbacio ga iz autobusa.Naime,čovek je kašljao i teško disao,moja komšinica koja je svedok događaja kaže da je ličio na nekog sa astmatičnim problemima.Ne treba ni spomenuti da ni vozač ni bilo ko od putnika nije reagovao na ovu zaštitu zdravlja.
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: Alexdelarge on 30-10-2009, 21:34:32
pa to je kao u ko to tamo peva; i tamo boru stjepanovica zbog grudobolje mustra ko kako 'oce. u nekom momentu on se pozali popu kako ga od kad se razboleo niko ne voli, a popa dok zdere luka i mesiste mu odgovora, sta ces , plase se ljudi.
Title: Re: SVINJE! skalope, reaguj!
Post by: scallop on 30-10-2009, 22:10:37
Ovogodišnji Sajam knjiga je podmetnut da bi se istrebili čitaoci. Tempirana bomba! Jedino su promašili cilj: kupci knjiga mahom ne čitaju, nose ih na poklon. Zato, čuvajte se onih što poklanjaju knjige.