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Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Ghoul on 13-09-2003, 06:31:23
Ljudi, jel se pojavilo ovo na divxu, ili kod pirata, ili igde?

Jel gledao neko?

Vidim da ce film u USA imati krajnje limited release [vise nesto kao travelling show], i ja jedino znam gde cu biti 10-og oktobra:

October 10 - BERKELEY - Landmark's California Theater
[isto mesto gde sam prosle nedelje gledo THE SHINING]
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: iNCUBUs on 13-09-2003, 13:32:46
Pre neki dan sam naleteo na taj film tražeći nešto i prema opisu, ono vredi videti :)
Mislim Bruce Campbell + Elvis + ostalo.. ludilo :)

Inače, još ga nema na divx-u, ali čim stigne, obaveštavam :)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Ghoul on 13-10-2003, 05:40:10
odgledah ga.

vrlo dobro, najbolji koskareli posle PHANTASM 2.

the most tear-jerking moments you'll get from any horror this year.

odlican sound design, nadam se da ce do srbije uskoro stici besprekoran divx rip, jer ako zvuk ne valja... :cry:

usput, muzika je odlicna [iako nije preslijeva, jer tu lovu nisu imali da plate].

premisa je mogla i malo vise/bolje da se izmuze, ali da ne cepidlacim, ovo je 6+/10.
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Spider Jerusalem on 19-10-2003, 20:03:35
BUBBA HO-TEP / *** (R)

October 17, 2003
Elvis: Bruce Campbell
Jack Kennedy: Ossie Davis
Nurse: Ella Joyce
Administrator: Reggie Bannister
Bubba Ho-Tep: Bob Ivy
Kemosabe: Larry Pennell
Callie: Heidi Marnhout

Vitagraph Films presents a film written and directed by Don Coscarelli.

Based on the short story(?) by Joe R. Lansdale. Running time: 92 minutes. Rated R (for language, some sexual content and brief violent images).

BY ROGER EBERT

Elvis and JFK did not die, and today they're roommates in an East Texas nursing home whose residents are being killed by an ancient Egyptian Soul Sucker named Bubba Ho-Tep. I want to get that on the table right at the get-go, so I can deal with the delightful wackiness of this movie, which is endearing and vulgar in about the right proportion. The movie doesn't exactly work, but sometimes when a car won't start, it's still fun to look at the little honey gleaming in the driveway.

The movie's back story: Elvis (Bruce Campbell) became sick of his lifestyle, his buddies, his groupies, his pills, his songs, his movies and his Colonel Parker. He struck a deal with an Elvis impersonator to trade places. There's even a contract guaranteeing that Elvis can switch back if he changes his mind -- but the contract is burned up in a barbecuing accident, and by then Elvis doesn't mind anyway, because he enjoys the freedom of performing just for the sheer joy, without the sideshow of fame.

The King explains all of this in a thoughtful, introspective voice-over narration that also deals with other matters on his mind, such as the alarming pustule on that part of his anatomy where it is least welcome. He talks about Priscilla and Lisa Marie, about his movies (not a single good one), about his decision to disappear, and about how he broke his hip falling off a stage. This narration is not broad comedy, but wicked, observant and truthful. "Bubba Ho-Tep" has a lot of affection for Elvis, takes him seriously, and -- this is crucial -- isn't a camp horror movie, but treats this loony situation as if it's really happening.

The man in the room down the hall is John F. Kennedy, played by Ossie Davis. "But, Jack..." Elvis says hesitantly, "you're black." JFK nods in confirmation. When his assassination was faked by Lyndon B. Johnson, "they dyed me." Now the two old men wait for death in their hospital beds, Elvis on a stroller, JFK using a motorized wheelchair for longer trips, talking about what was and wasn't.

The rest home is almost a character in the movie, with its drab institutional corridors, its condescending nurse (Ella Joyce), its supercilious administrator (Reggie Bannister), its worn-out furniture, its flying cockroaches, its sense of being half-deserted. Pleasures here are hard to come by. "Let's get decadent," says JFK, opening his drawer and revealing a horde of Baby Ruth candy bars.

The cockroaches turn out to be giant scarab beetles worshipped by the ancient Egyptians, and that's a clue for JFK, who has been reading up on these matters and realizes the nursing home is under attack by a Soul Sucker. He explains to Elvis that the soul can be sucked out of any orifice, but the old folks' souls are small, so you need to suck a lot of them. The two men have a thoughtful conversation about whether a soul, after it is digested, leaves anything to be eliminated through the Soul Sucker's intestinal tract. This sounds right: A lot of rest home conversations get around sooner or later to constipation.

The closing scenes of the movie show the two geezers in a fight to the finish with Bubba Ho-Tep (Bob Ivy), who looks like a threadbare version of the Mummy. Here the movie could get laughs by showing the old men with unexpected powers, but no: When Elvis tries out his old karate moves, it's disastrous. Assuming that elderly versions of Elvis and JFK ever really did do battle with an Egyptian Soul Sucker, this, I am forced to conclude, is more or less how it would look.

Of course there are laughs in the movie, which is a comedy, but an odd one. The movie was written and directed by Don Coscarelli, based on a short story by Joe R. Lansdale, the "mojo storyteller" from Nacogdoches, Texas. Coscarelli made the four "Phantasm" pictures, three unseen by me, the fourth unloved. What drew him to this material is not a mystery -- the story sounds juicy enough -- but what inspired him to tell it in this tone?

"Bubba Ho-Tep" wants to be a good movie about Elvis, JFK and the Soul Sucker. It doesn't sneer, it's not about cheap shots, it is perfectly sincere.
You never catch Campbell or Davis winking at the audience or patronizing the material. They approach their characters with all the curiosity and respect they'd deserve in a serious film. Campbell sounds uncannily like Elvis might sound by now, and looks more like Elvis than anyone else I've seen in the role.

Davis of course looks not at all like JFK, but I don't think we're really supposed to think he is JFK; one of the movie's sweet touches is the way Elvis just takes him at his word and proceeds from there.

I said the movie doesn't work. And so it doesn't. How could it work? It doesn't work as a horror movie because Bubba Ho-Tep monster would make Ed Wood's monsters look slick by comparison. It doesn't work as a cult movie because it challenges the cleverness of the audience instead of congratulating it. It doesn't work as a traditional story arc because the story jumps the rails when Bubba Ho-Tep turns up.

But it does sort of work in one way: It has the damnedest ingratiating way of making us sit there and grin at its harebrained audacity, laugh at its outhouse humor, and be somewhat moved (not deeply, but somewhat) at the poignancy of these two old men and their situation. Elvis asks himself how in the world the King of Rock and Roll ended up in a rundown East
Texas nursing home with a boil on the family treasure, and by the end of the movie he has answered this excellent question more amusingly than any reasonable moviegoer could have expected.

Copyright © Chicago Sun-Times Inc.
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Truba on 19-10-2003, 21:33:51
pokrećem nagradnu igru:

KTO JE PROČITAO OVAJ GORE SPAJDEROV POST DOBIVA NAPOLITANKU (preporučeno)

:x
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Ghoul on 19-10-2003, 23:01:06
Quote from: "komunjara"pokrec´em nagradnu igru:

KTO JE PROCˇITAO OVAJ GORE SPAJDEROV POST DOBIVA NAPOLITANKU (preporucˇeno)

:x

pakuj napolitanku i salji za ameriku, poslacu ti adresu na pm.
[istina, citao sam ovo na ebertovom sajtu jos preneki dan, ali to je ipak to...]
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: phuzzy on 20-10-2003, 09:07:52
I meni jednu, zahvaljujem. :-)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Truba on 20-10-2003, 10:40:29
:x
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Milosh on 23-03-2004, 14:55:23
Quoteodgledah ga.

i ja.  :!:

Quotevrlo dobro, najbolji koskareli posle PHANTASM 2.

ja kazem da je ovo njegov najbolji film.

Quotethe most tear-jerking moments you'll get from any horror this year.

apsolutno tacno. i kako je to samo uradjeno 100 % iskreno.  

Quoteodlican sound design, nadam se da ce do srbije uskoro stici besprekoran divx rip, jer ako zvuk ne valja...

potpuno se slazem, film je na momente istinski jeziv.

Quoteusput, muzika je odlicna [iako nije preslijeva, jer tu lovu nisu imali da plate].

jeste  :!:

Quotepremisa je mogla i malo vise/bolje da se izmuze, ali da ne cepidlacim, ovo je 6+/10.

6+, to mu dodje jaka trojka po onom tvom rangiranju? ja bih mu dao i visu ocenu. a to sto nisu eksploatisali genijalnu premisu malo vise, mozda je tako jos bolje, ovako, film je uspeo da ostane savrseno ozbiljan i iskren u okvirima jedne ipak potpuno bizarne price.

...i da, Bruce Campbell, svaka cast, odigrao je ulogu Elvisa smrtno ozbiljno i uverljivo do kraja. ko misli da je on 'samo' dobar komicar, grdno se vara.


obavezno pogledajte!  :!:
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Milosh on 23-03-2004, 15:16:35
samo da dodam da se 'Bubba Ho-Tep' nalazi na listi 50 najboljih (tj. najbolje ocenjenih) horor filmova na IMDB-u, i to na mestu 14.  8)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Ghoul on 23-03-2004, 15:24:16
Quote from: "Milosh"samo da dodam da se 'Bubba Ho-Tep' nalazi na listi 50 najboljih (tj. najbolje ocenjenih) horor filmova na IMDB-u, i to na mestu 14.  8)

to bas i nije neko merilo: em je film NOV, pa je u svesti vecine koja ga je nedavno videla, em B. Campbell ima NEZAMISLIV kult status= siguran sam da su oni njegovi obozavaoci po 50-ak puta glasali ne bi li proizveli taj rezultat.

film jeste vrlo dobar, ali NE TOLIKO dobar.
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Milosh on 23-03-2004, 15:28:45
Quote from: "ghoul"film jeste vrlo dobar, ali NE TOLIKO dobar.

potpuno se slazem, ali ipak je lepo videti ga u drustvu sa npr. 'Psycho', 'Silence of the Lambs', 'Exorcist', 'Alien' itd.
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Lurd on 23-03-2004, 15:48:36
Quote from: "Milosh"...i da, Bruce Campbell, svaka cast, odigrao je ulogu Elvisa smrtno ozbiljno i uverljivo do kraja. ko misli da je on 'samo' dobar komicar, grdno se vara.

Ko misli da je Kembel samo dobar komičar ne da se grdno vara, nego ne treba ni da živi.

Pogledaćemo film kada u ponedeljak doneseš disk, koji ja ovom prilikom svečano rezervišem. Hvaala!
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Milosh on 23-03-2004, 18:05:11
Quote from: "Monsinjor Lurdusami"Ko misli da je Kembel samo dobar komičar ne da se grdno vara, nego ne treba ni da živi.

:|
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: otaku on 24-03-2004, 00:19:24
Quote from: "Spider Jerusalem  :arrow:  R. Ebert"



The rest home is almost a character in the movie, with its drab institutional corridors, its condescending nurse (Ella Joyce), its supercilious administrator (Reggie Bannister), its worn-out furniture, its flying cockroaches, its sense of being half-deserted. Pleasures here are hard to come by. "Let's get decadent," says JFK, opening his drawer and revealing a horde of Baby Ruth candy bars.   :lol:   :D
The cockroaches turn out to be giant scarab beetles worshipped by the ancient Egyptians, and that's a clue for JFK, who has been reading up on these matters  and realizes the nursing home is under attack by a Soul Sucker. He explains to Elvis that the soul can be sucked out of any orifice, but the old folks' souls are small, so you need to suck a lot of them.   The two men have a thoughtful conversation about whether a soul, after it is digested, leaves anything to be eliminated through the Soul Sucker's intestinal tract.  :|

...

They approach their characters with all the curiosity and respect they'd deserve in a serious film.

obozavam film, a covek je sve lepo rekao,  xbigok  necu da kvarim, samo i meni napolitanku  :!:

meni je omiljeno i kad Elvis sedi u svojoj sobi i kada na TVu, sav onako indiferentan, gleda kako najavljuju Elvisa, kako generacije lude i inserti iz ERlvisovih filmova koje on gleda i komentarise zene, e tu lik postaje stvarniji od samog Elvisa sto ga znamo, istisne ga kao cep, pa vojs over koji je potpuno skinut Elvisov glas, a kao prica neke stvari kao da je lik iz noara kog su svi ostavili i koji resava neki apartni slucaj, svaki put ko da su ga upravo digli iz sna, "jos ovo da obavim, i odo' stav, a onda, uvek ima jos nesto i on ne odlazi dok ne ispadne heroj u stvari, a sve vreme ti ga nisu plasirali tako...    (genijalno, ono kad se spusti do reke i kao u vodi vidi tablice autobusa, prosto odma znas gde je, znas da je iznad taj staracki dom,  kao tamo je, ne moz da omane,  so  8) , take me there :D  )  scena kada se JFK i Elvis konacno suocavaju sa mumijom je neverovatno lepo uslikana, ima neko svetlo ko da njih dvojica sede u sobi, a otskrinu se vrata iz kojih mumija dolazi, a ni mumiju ne mrzis, jednostavno i ona od nekud dolazi, pa ima jedan momenat kad se Elvis okrene ka JFK koji je zaspao, a do tad mu pricao i terao ga i pokrenuo celu akciju, onda shvatis, covece, pa taj cikica postoji tamo, tako u sred ooo,  :cry:  od miline, a muzika je odloicna.., eh, ko bi rekao da cu se identifikovati sa Elvisom u nekom filmu  :?
je li ko citao pricu po kojoj je film radjen, ako jeste, I'm all ears?
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Tripp on 25-03-2004, 09:54:06
U pitanju je Lensdejlova noveleta prvi put objavljena u njegovoj prilicno dobroj zbirci WRITER OF THE PURPLE RAGE (imenovana, ocigledno, u omazu jednom od najboljih americkih vesterna ikada napisanih - sa cim se, svakako, slaze i svekolika kritika - THE RAIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE Zejna Greja, a nije tajna da je Lensdejl svojevremeno pisao i vesterne, pa cak i za sobom ima jedan nimalo zanemarljivi roman o Tarzanu, dovrsen po fabuli E. R. Barouza...). Recimo, ako se dobro sjecam, prvi monolog u Koskarelijevom filmu u stvari je prvi pasus Lensdejlove novelete, stvar o Elvisovoj impotenciji. Naravno, ne bi bilo fer reci da je Koskareli obavio tek adekvatan posao, medjutim, tako ispadne kada se neko suoci sa pretjerano slobodnim/nezavisnim autorom kakav je Lensdejl, koji je, inace, poceo pisati u gonzo & mojo maniru, najvecma sa mnogobrojnim "like a..." analogijama od kojih bi se i Crnoj Guji zavrtjelo u glavi.

S vremena na vrijeme, hranjenje takvim stilom umije i da dosadi, no kako Lensdejlu nije nepoznato varirati vlastitim slovom (u to ime procitajte njegove novele u antologijama "999" & "Revelations", premda ne bi pogrijesili kada bi, izmedju ostalog, posvetili nesto vremena i njegovog mejnstrim romanu, "The Bottoms"), najposlije ispadne da je, generalno, u pitanju autor od koga nikada ne znate sta cete dobiti. Bubba Ho-Tep je dobar primjer moje tvrdnje i ma koliko ta prica nije efektna nalik, recimo, "The Night They Missed the Horror Show" (Znak Sagite #6), fakat je da se radi o fascinantno napisanim stvarima gdje se tesko odluciti za favorita. I ovdje ne mozete suspregnuti smijeh nakon svake druge-trece recenice, htjeli vi to ili ne. U pitanju je prozni (crossover) pristup koji je u mogucnosti da svakoj zamislivoj temi podari izvjesnu kolicinu podrske ka realnosti i mejnstrimu, zavisno od toga kojeg se ornamenta zeli prihvatiti autor - komedije ili necega sasvim drugog. Nije stoga ni cudo sto se Lensdejl ne uklapa dobro u navalicu novog horora sklepanog pretezno na istu ruku; misljenja sam da je covjek previse inteligentan za vecinu toga smeca, ali, okej, to samo naglas razmisljam.      

Sto se tice relacije film-noveleta, Ghoul je, ako pamtim, negdje napisao da cete sa Koskarelijem dobiti djelimicno i emotivni flick. Pa, upravo je to ono sto filmu najvise fali, iako je Ghoulova opaska na dobrom mjestu. U prici, ma koliko da ju je Koskareli zbilja vjerno pratio, postoji toliko toga bizarnog i zivotnog - istina, sitnica - koja bi mozda i uljepsale film da su uopste uvedene u premisu. Ne mogu, recimo, da zaboravim scenu u kojoj Elvis, kada mu onu stvar tamnoputa sestra digne iz mrtvih, uveliko iskoristi zadobijenu energiju i odrka velelepni momenat do kraja, bez obzira na sluzavu nateklinu na dikhedu koja, pak, eksplodira tik prije jism showera. Mislim da toga nema u filmu, a sto je, opet, logicki i jedini moguci svrsetak onako dobre scene.

Takodje, film se nekako gleda poput travestije, najposlije ispadne trashy fentazi, dok je prica, i pored citavog Lensdejlovog podjebavackog krstasenja krcatog referencama i poredjenjima, i te kako ozbiljna; u svakom slucaju, dok sam je citao ja sam makar vjerovao u nju; dobre su, vrijedi napomenuti, paralele na to da je Elvis nekada bio veliki fan HPL-a i knjiga o staro-egipatskim misterijama, i da je zato namah prepoznao one hijeroglife u kenjari kao egipatske. Mozda se vecina nece sloziti sa mnom, no film je, na kraju krajeva, ispao samo simpatican katalizator prema jos jednom trashu, ali bespogovorno zabavnom. Hocu reci da je spomenuti flick mogao biti daleko ozbiljniji i daleko stravicniji i primjetniji u americkim kinima, bez obzira sto je onaj titl teksasko-egipatskih psovki bukvalno preuzet iz proznog predloska. To me svejedno vrace na malopredjasnju tvrdnju da se, stavise, od ovakvog ili onakvog propusta ne moze pobjeci kada se diluje sa Lensdejlom. Ne moze se njegova zamisao (makar iz te ranije faze), niti njemu-slicnih pisaca, nikada lako prenijeti na big screen, u toliko sam barem ubijedjen.
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: WARLOCK on 02-07-2004, 15:10:46
sad sam ga konacno gledao! film je genijalan!zalim sto ga nisam pogledao ranije, stvarno dobar humor oni fazoni kao stari campbell,to kad dodje Evil Dead 9 deo(matori campbell vecno u borbi sa silom zla)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: DUNADAN on 05-07-2004, 23:00:48
majku mu, trazila ovu temu pre par nedelja i nisam mogla da nadjem, bilo mi nezamislivo da je niko nije postavio.

e smejala sam se ko blesava  :!:
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.b92.net%2Finvboard%2Fuploads%2Fpost-48-1087636151.jpg&hash=dea4bf68b89220e705e906fe71b40bb44bbe05dd)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: WARLOCK on 07-07-2004, 01:59:13
jao! tu sam se bas slatko nasmejao ta scena ja najbolja koji sam video u filmu :)
Title: Bubba Ho-Tep
Post by: Mark on 30-10-2004, 11:46:49
Oooooooodlicannnnnn film!!!!

Bruce je genije i jedno od najvecih kinematografsko-glumackih cuda jer nikada nije uspeo da se zaista probije u mainstream filmove!
A ima apsolutno sve predispozicije za to!

Koskareli je zaista doziveo sudbinu dece-glumaca!
Iako je obecavao MNOGO (Phantasm snimio sa 22-23 ako se ne varam, cisto da nam nabija nase twentysomething komplekse) - veoma malo je isporucio. Bubba pokazuje da je potencijal jos tu ali godineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (Zal za mlados'...) su vec izgubljene!

:roll: