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DC, Marvel, i "veliki događaji"

Started by ridiculus, 08-12-2018, 17:01:04

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ridiculus

Nisam poštovalac ovog pristupa stripovima, pa da ne zagušujem druge teme svojim nezadovoljstvom  :lol: ! A mislim i da ovaj trend zaslužuje neku vrstu analize, ako ništa drugo, zato što je uporan i uspešan.

Iako je CBR-ov forum mesto koje se u proseku ne izdvaja kvalitetom od ovih "događaja", ponekad se desi da dobijemo značajne teme ili pojedine postove, i tako je bilo pre neki dan. Na DC-jevom delu foruma, otvorena je tema "Anybody Else Growing Tired of Apocalyptic Crisis Every Week?", i tu se može naći sledeće mišljenje, koje lepo opisuje i ono što ja osećam... već 20 godina!

QuoteIn brief, I think that growing exaggeration with time is a problem with all serialized storytelling, but particularly so with comics. In every kind of serialized storytelling - whether it's soap operas, movies, novels, or whatever - you get this problem where things that were initially grounded become more and more exaggerated over the years, as new creators come in and inevitably take the greatest exaggerations of their predecessors as their new baseline. In comics this is a real problem at both of the major publishers, and it's a serious problem at DC where there are characters that have been around for seventy years or more. Batman is a great detective, then he becomes the world's best detective, then he reaches the point where he can figure out who did it from a single clue and there's no point writing mysteries for him anymore, and beyond that he reaches the point where he can fight Darkseid and New Gods are afraid of him. Villains start out a little mean, then eventually all become merciless killers. Hawkman had one reincarnation, then he had dozens, now he's been reincarnated all across space and time. Booster Gold used to be a bit goofy, now he's an idiot. Every crisis has to be worse than the last one, to the point where there the people they're supposed to be saving aren't even in the story because the scale is too big. Everything gets bigger and bigger until the characters are all too exaggerated to be human (whether they're powered or not) and all the limits and realistic touches that used to make stories great just aren't there anymore, so they end up exclusively fighting each other in pointless battles that are as obscure as Sumerian mythology to anyone who isn't already a fan. Limitations and scaling back exaggerated characteristics makes stories better. That doesn't mean the stories all have to be set on Earth. It just means the characters should still be human, with some sort of limitations and capable of failure.

(Boldovanje je moje; ti delovi su mi od posebnog interesa.) To je jedan od razloga zašto me moderni Betmen ne interesuje - "moderni" u relativnom smislu, misleći na novi milenijum. Tom King bi mogao biti izuzetak, a negde u okvirima teme, neko je izneo mišljenje da on svoju popularnost duguje dobrim delom odstupanjem od modela koji se kritikuje, i fokusiranjem na likove i njihove odnose. (Ako neko naivno misli da je dobro pisanje pravi razlog, pitaću ga kad je u istoriji ljudske civilizacije masovna publika volela pisce ZBOG dobrog pisanja?) A, iako volim Grenta Morisona, verovatno je on dobrim delom odgovoran za ovakvu situaciju sa Betmenom.

Drugi problem je sledeće:

QuoteI mean, in the last year the planet fell into the dark multiverse, fell into the Phantom Zone, was almost eaten by a space giant, was invaded by gods (twice), lost the moon, was flooded....and that's not counting all the "regular" crazy stuff like speed force storms, invasions of intelligent gorillas, militarized Bat-soldiers.....or just the building destroying chaos that is any superhero fight ever.

I, dok je "kontinuitet" odlika koju DC i druga Kompanija-koju-nećemo-imenovati (ovog meseca!) ističu kao svoju glavnu snagu, ovo gore rečeno je totalno u suprotnosti ne samo sa svakim kontinuitetom, već i smislom.

Koji termin je najviše zloupotrebljavan u opisima stripova? "Dekonstrukcija"? "Mitologija"? Ne, rekao bih da je to pridev "epski". Bar u 80 ili 90% slučajeva, ljudi koji upotrebljavaju tu reč nemaju predstavu šta to znači i jednostavno je brkaju sa "grandioznim" (a grandiozna može biti i lirika, i, posebno, drama, iliti tragedija). Epika daje značenje istoriji, ne oduzima ga kao u primerima o kojima pričamo.
Dok ima smrti, ima i nade.

ridiculus

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Ovo se već neko vreme najavljuje kao najveći događaj iliti krosover sledeće godine. Za sada bez komentara sa moje strane.  ;) 
Dok ima smrti, ima i nade.