Poljska: ZA PREDSEDNIKA NEMA PARA

[Ghoul]

politički i ekonomski vrh poljske izginuo zato što nije bilo para za novi precednički avion, nego vozili opasnu, krešu-sklonu starudiju!

eeehhh, kad bi ova naša stoka ovako zasela u jedan...


Polish leader, 95 others dead in Russia jet crash


MOSCOW – Polish President Lech Kaczynski and some of the country's highest military and civilian leaders died on Saturday when the presidential plane crashed as it came in for a landing in thick fog in western Russia, killing 96, officials said.

Russian and Polish officials said there were no survivors on the Soviet-era Tupolev, which was taking the president, his wife and staff to events marking the 70th anniversary of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers by Soviet secret police.

On board were the army chief of staff, national bank president, deputy foreign minister, army chaplain, head of the National Security Office, deputy parliament speaker, civil rights commissioner and at least two presidential aides and three lawmakers, the Polish foreign ministry said.

Russia's Emergency Ministry said there were 96 dead, 88 part of a Polish state delegation. Poland's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Piotr Paszkowski, said there were 89 people on the passenger list but one person had not shown up for the roughly 1 1/2-hour flight from Warsaw's main airport.

"We still cannot fully understand the scope of this tragedy and what it means for us in the future. Nothing like this has ever happened in Poland," Paszkowski said. "We can assume with great certainty that all persons on board have been killed."

The governor of the Smolensk region, where the crash took place about 11 a.m. (0700 GMT), also said no one survived.

State news channel Rossiya-24 showed footage from the crash site, with pieces of the plane scattered widely amid leafless trees and small fires burning in woods shrouded with fog. A tail fin with the red and white national colors of Poland stuck up from the debris.

"The Polish presidential plane did not make it to the runway while landing. Tentative findings indicate that it hit the treetops and fell apart," regional governor Sergei Anufriev said on Rossiya-24. "Nobody has survived the disaster."

The presidential Tu-154 was at least 20 years old. Polish officials have long discussed replacing the planes that carry the country's leaders but said they lacked the funds. According to the Aviation Safety Network, there have been 66 crashes involving Tu-154s, including six in the past five years. The Russian carrier Aeroflot recently withdrew its Tu-154 fleet from service.

The presidential plane was fully overhauled in December in Russia, the general director of the Aviakor plant in Samara told Rossiya-24. The plant repaired the plane's three engines, retrofitted electronic and navigation equipment and updated the interior, Alexei Gusev said. He said there could be no doubts that the plane was flightworthy.

Polish-Russian relations had been improving of late after being poisoned for decades over the Katyn massacre.

Russia never has formally apologized for the murders of some 22,000 Polish officers, but Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's decision to attend a memorial ceremony earlier this week in the forest near Katyn was seen as a gesture of goodwill toward reconciliation. Rossiya-24 showed hundreds of people around the Katyn monument, many holding Polish flags, some weeping.

President Dmitry Medvedev sent his condolences and promised to work closely with Poland in investigating the crash.

"Russia shares the grief and mourning of Poland," Medvedev said in a statement posted on the Kremlin Web site. "Please accept the most sincere condolences to the Polish people, words of compassion and support to relatives and friends of those who perished."

Putin has been put in charge of a commission investigating the crash, the Kremlin said.

In Warsaw, Prime Minister Donald Tusk called an extraordinary meeting of his Cabinet and the national flag was lowered to half-staff at the presidential palace, where people gathered to lay flowers and light candles.

Black ribbons appeared in some windows in the Polish capital.

Poland's president is commander in chief of its armed forces but the position's domestic duties are chiefly symbolic. Kaczynski, 60, became president in December 2005 after defeating Tusk in that year's presidential vote.

The nationalist conservative was the twin brother of Poland's opposition leader, former Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski. Kaczynski's wife, Maria, was an economist. They had a daughter, Marta, and two granddaughters.

Kaczynski had said he would seek a second term in presidential elections this fall. He was expected to face an uphill struggle against Parliament speaker Bronislaw Komorowski, the candidate of Tusk's governing Civic Platform party.

According to the constitution, Komorowski would take over presidential duties.

Klaus Bachmann, a professor of politics at Wroclaw University, said the president "wasn't very popular and it was quite obvious that he would lose the upcoming elections."

"The open question is what will Kaczynski's party and his brother do; he might decide to run for president himself, he might also consider to withdraw from politics at all because he had a very very close link to his brother and I can't imagine how much shocked he must be."

Poland, a nation of 38 million people, is by far the largest of the 10 formerly communist countries that have joined the European Union in recent years.

Last year, Poland was the only EU nation to avoid recession and posted economic growth of 1.7 percent.

It has become a firm U.S. ally in the region since the fall of communism — a stance that crosses party lines.

The country sent troops to the U.S.-led war in Iraq and recently boosted its contingent in Afghanistan to some 2,600 soldiers.

U.S. Patriot missiles are expected to be deployed in Poland this year. That was a Polish condition for a 2008 deal — backed by both Kaczynski and Tusk — to host long-range missile defense interceptors.

The deal, which was struck by the Bush administration, angered Russia and was later reconfigured under President Barack Obama's administration.

Under the Obama plan, Poland would host a different type of missile defense interceptors as part of a more mobile system and at a later date, probably not until 2018.

Kaczynski is the first serving Polish leader to die since exiled World War II-era leader Gen. Wladyslaw Sikorski in a plane crash off Gibraltar in 1943.

[Bimbo Sullivan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qak77M7X7KU&feature=player_embedded#

[Ghoul]

uuuu, jebote, kakav retard za antologiju retardacije!
neverovatno da je neko ovog jadnika proizveo u dopisnika!? pa ovaj kreten se ponaša kao slučajni hrvatski turista kome je neko 5 sekundi pred uključenje tutnuo mikrofon u ruke i naterao ga da priča napamet koješta, a ne profesionalac koga državna tv plaća da se zajebava po poljskoj i povremeno nešto suvislo izvesti otuda!!!

[Franz Xaver von Baader]

paradoks je da je to udarna emisija - dnevnik HTV-a
drugi paradoks je da se dogodila neviđena tragedija, a gledajući prilog jednostavno se moraš usrati od smijeha.

ovo je neka pomaknuta verzija pajtona

[Bimbo Sullivan]

Prekomično.
Ali dobro, barem nas je, za razliku od ostalih izvjestitelja poštedio iritantnog nametanja vlastitih stavova. Ma, ovaj je legenda, zapravo. Vjerojatno liku, izvještavanje pred ekranima nije u opisu posla, pa se čovek izgubio...

[Franz Xaver von Baader]

oni tamo ljudi komentiraju da mu se priprdilo
ne znam, samo prenosim što ljudi pišu

[Savajat Erp]

лика као да су извукли са неке журезе где се циркало и дувало у великим количинама...или је једноставно био исувише везан за Качинског и остале!

[Loni]

uuuu, jebote, kakav retard za antologiju retardacije!
neverovatno da je neko ovog jadnika proizveo u dopisnika!? pa ovaj kreten se ponaša kao slučajni hrvatski turista kome je neko 5 sekundi pred uključenje tutnuo mikrofon u ruke i naterao ga da priča napamet koješta, a ne profesionalac koga državna tv plaća da se zajebava po poljskoj i povremeno nešto suvislo izvesti otuda!!!

Ne znam čemu se čudiš?
Pa u praksi i pozivaju tako.

Zar misliš da bi ijedna televizija, pa makar to bio i javni servis neke države, davala platu 12 meseci nekome ko će se javiti jednom, dvaput godišnje na 5 minuta?
I da plaćaju takve za 50 najvažnijih gradova sveta?

Ma jok.
Izaberu lika, koji je u dijaspori PR neke hrvatske diskoteke i daj ga pred kameru, a TV ga pred gledaocima konstruiše u dipisnika da ispadne ozbiljnije.

Problem je što Hrvati nemaju dijasporu u Poljskoj.
Iz Nemačke bi izvukli bar voditelja radio emsiije namenjene Hrvatima.
Ovde nađoše jedinog njihovog u Varšavi, koji ne pripada ambasadi, a koji je hteo da prozbori reč dve na jeziku, koji je skoro pa i zaboravio. 

[Meho Krljic]

Dobro, vidi se da čovek i nije dobro čuo šta ga pitaju.

[lilit]

politički i ekonomski vrh poljske izginuo zato što nije bilo para za novi precednički avion, nego vozili opasnu, krešu-sklonu starudiju!

moguce da sam prolupala, ali meni prosto neverovatno da se sve ovo desilo slucajno.

[дејан]

pa, vidis mozda nije slucajno (mada pretpostavljam da si mislila na nesto sasvim drugo)

zanimljiv je detalj od pre skoro dve godine kada je preCednik zahtevao od pilota da sleti u Tbilisi u sred rusko-dzordzijanske ujdurme, ali ga je ovaj odbio (i time preCedniku i kolegama produzio zivot, pilotu je posle sudjeno, ali je sva krivica skinuta, cak je dobio i medalju)