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Alexdelarge

Програмска шема - петак, 09. окт 2009
РТС 2 22:00

Фестивал фестивала
Четири месеца, три недеље, два дана

Ова драма Кристијана Мунђиуа овенчана је Златном палмом на филмском фестивалу у Кану и сасвим је сигурно да никога неће оставити равнодушним.

Прича је смештена је у Букурешт, осамдесетих година прошлог века, када је на власти био злологласни диктатор Чаушеску.

Млада студенткиња Габита (Лаура Василиу) има велики проблем - одлучила се на побачај који у то време у Румунији није био дозвољен. Несигурна и уплашена, за помоћ се обраћа цимерки Отилији (Анамариа Маринка).

Њих две одлучују да плате побачај који би требало да обави доктор Бебе (Влад Иванов). Ускоро улазе у свет у коме трагедија вреба иза сваког угла, а шансе за успех су из часа у час све мање.

Овај филм наишао је на добар одзив код критичара који су га окарактерисали као ремекдело које је направио снажан темељ за будућност румунске кинематографије.
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

ukan

Mihai Viteazul(1970)-to je pravi rumunski za gledanje(kakvi abortusi kakvi bakrači) samo fajt i šibanje a statista u bitkama ima više nego kompijuterski odradjenih jedinica u gospodaru.Nisam gledao skoro ovako dobar epski film,sve preporuke.

Ghoul

pošto me je mnogohvaljeni i jošvišenagrađivani POLICE, ADJECTIVE poprilično razočarao, bio sam pomalo skeptičan prema još jednom rumunskom filmu sa visokim festivalskim pedigreom, ali – na svu sreću – ovde je u pitanju odličan rad i TALES FROM THE GOLDEN AGE verovatno će ući u mojih top-10 non-horora za 2009.

http://ljudska_splacina.com/2009/12/tales-from-golden-age-2009.html

https://ljudska_splacina.com/

tomat

Quote from: Ghoul on 28-12-2009, 19:03:05
pošto me je mnogohvaljeni i jošvišenagrađivani POLICE, ADJECTIVE poprilično razočarao, bio sam pomalo skeptičan prema još jednom rumunskom filmu sa visokim festivalskim pedigreom, ali – na svu sreću – ovde je u pitanju odličan rad i TALES FROM THE GOLDEN AGE verovatno će ući u mojih top-10 non-horora za 2009.

http://ljudska_splacina.com/2009/12/tales-from-golden-age-2009.html



gde može da se nađe titl za ovaj film?
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Le Samourai

Jeste, Zlatno doba je sjajno. Svaka od tih pricha je trebalo da bude dugometrazhna i da tvori osmologiju sa 4 meseca..., ali se Mundjiju smorio pa spakovao ovako - i chini mi se napravio pravi potez.

Police, adj. jeste korak nazad od A fost, sau n-a fost, ali je ipak ok film. Porumboju mi je i dalje favorit od rumuna.

Ghoul

priče su taman kolko treba - jedino bih poslednju, o kokošarovozaču mogo da gledam kao feature.

tomat: title sam skinuo zajedno s filmom, ako se ne snađeš drugačije, daj mi mejl na pm pa ću ti ih poslati.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Le Samourai

Mislim da bi i Natural Born Killers sa flashama mogao da se proshiri, ali da, generalno mislim da im ova duzhina vishe pasuje.

Ghoul

i još jedan RUMUN (obećavam, poslednji za neko vreme!) - POLICE, ADJECTIVE!

http://ljudska_splacina.com/2009/12/police-adjective-2009.html
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Le Samourai

Poveznica sa Billy Buddom je totalni stretch.

Da si rekao Bartleby, pa josh i nekako.

Ghoul

čini ti se.

bili bad je TAČNO o tome - obaveza prema uniformi koju nosiš vs. obaveza prema čovečnosti.

naravno, može se to - ali usiljeno, i izdaleka, povezati i sa bartlbijevim 'I'd prefer not to' ali to što bartlbi radije ne bi nije baš isto, niti u istom kontextu, kao ovaj rumunski pajkan.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Le Samourai

Pa dobro, tematski svakako ima veze. Ali kada se krene u razradu, nekako ih ne mogu previshe preklopiti.

Ghoul

Quote from: Le Samourai on 30-12-2009, 03:54:55
Pa dobro, tematski svakako ima veze. Ali kada se krene u razradu, nekako ih ne mogu previshe preklopiti.

a ako te podsetim na ovu deonicu u BADU?

""But your scruples: do they move as in a dusk? Challenge them. Make them
advance and declare themselves. Come now: do they import something like
this? If, mindless of palliating circumstances, we are bound to regard
the death of the Master-at-arms as the prisoner's deed, then does that
deed constitute a capital crime whereof the penalty is a mortal one? But
in natural justice is nothing but the prisoner's overt act to be
considered? How can we adjudge to summary and shameful death a
fellow-creature innocent before God, and whom we feel to be so?--Does
that state it aright? You sign sad assent. Well, I too feel that, the
full force of that. It is Nature. But do these buttons that we wear
attest that our allegiance is to Nature? No, to the King. Though the
ocean, which is inviolate Nature primeval, tho' this be the element
where we move and have our being as sailors, yet as the King's officers
lies our duty in a sphere correspondingly natural? So little is that
true, that in receiving our commissions we in the most important regards
ceased to be natural free-agents. When war is declared are we the
commissioned fighters previously consulted? We fight at command. If our
judgements approve the war, that is but coincidence. So in other
particulars. So now. For suppose condemnation to follow these present
proceedings. Would it be so much we ourselves that would condemn as it
would be martial law operating through us? For that law and the rigour
of it, we are not responsible. Our avowed responsibility is in this:
That however pitilessly that law may operate, we nevertheless adhere to
it and administer it."

ovo je svakako lepše, tačnije i upečatljivije sročeno nego ona ubeskraj prepisivanja iz rečnika.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

crippled_avenger

Cealalta Irina (Romania)
By RONNIE SCHEIBRead other reviews about this film

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Andi Vasluianu portrays a night watchman and Simona Popescu is his Egypt-bound wife in filmmaker Andrei Gruzniczki's 'The Other Irene.'

           

A Fundatia Arte Vizuale, Media Investment Communication, House of Media presentation of a Fundatia Arte Vizuale production. Produced by Vivi Dragan Vasile. Executive producer, Velvet Moraru. Directed by Andrei Gruzsniczki. Screenplay, Ileana Munean, Mircea Staiculescu.

With: Andi Vasluianu, Simona Popescu, Dan Astilean, Doru Ana, Dana Dogaru, Carmen Lopazan, Vlad Ivanov.
  A man's obsession with the mystery surrounding his wife's disappearance furnishes a fascinating study in denial in Romanian director Andrei Gruzsniczki's oblique, near-minimalist feature bow, "The Other Irene." Like a cross between "The Vanishing" and "Jeanne Dielman," the pic follows its unassuming nice-guy protagonist through the minutiae of his rounds as night watchman, as devoted husband and finally as dogged seeker of an acceptable "truth," steadily building emotion through detail and a tautly restrained perf by Andi Vasluianu. "Irene" may not be at the forefront of the new Romanian cinema, but it reps proof of its depth and vitality.
When Aurel (Vasluianu) discovers his wife Irene (Simona Popescu) has accepted a three-month job in Egypt, he impatiently counts the days until her return. Irene reappears -- radiant, sensual and intent on duplicating the luxuries she knew in Cairo -- only to suddenly rush off again, much to hubby's bewilderment. Aurel is getting ready to meet her plane when he receives a phone call announcing his wife's suicide. After a stunned moment, he proceeds to the airport as if nothing happened, waiting with flowers in hand for his no-show wife.

By night, a lone Aurel wanders the deserted shopping mall he patrols, telling no one of his loss, not even his misogynistic colleague (Dan Astilean). By day, he haunts the musty corridors of bureaucracy, buttonholing inspectors, diplomats, medical personnel and translators, unraveling the facts behind his wife's case and growing increasingly angry when his improbable suspicions of slave trading and illicit business dealings are met with reports of drug abuse and love affairs. Even when her mummy-wrapped body is opened at her parents' house, he refuses to accept that the woman in the coffin is Irene.

Aurel's plodding progress through functionaries' offices, while not dissimilar to the successive hospital rooms traversed by the character in "The Death of Mr. Lazarescu," yields an entirely different dynamic: Just as he is dwarfed in the hollowness of his mall, Aurel is completely alone in his conviction that his wife is not deceased despite overwhelming evidence.

Yet as testament to the strength of the pic's theme -- and of Vasluianu's perf -- many in the audience will join Aurel in his denial to the bitter end; the fact that the film is based on a "true story" has led some to demand, in post-screening Q&As, what further steps have been taken on behalf of the bereaved husband's claims.

Camera, Vivi Dragan Vasile; editor, Dana Bunescu; production designer, Mihada Poenaru; costume designer, Svetlana Mihailescu; sound, Bunescu, Constantin Titi Fleancu. Reviewed at Romanian Film Festival, New York, Dec. 6, 2009. Running time: 90 MIN.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

crippled_avenger

Silent Wedding
Nunta Muta (Romania-France-Luxembourg)
By RONNIE SCHEIBRead other reviews about this film

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After Stalin's death, all celebrations are forbidden, but a man and woman get married anyway in Horatiu Malaele's 'Silent Wedding.'

     

A BAC Films (in France) release of a Castel Film Studios (Romania)/Agat Films & Cie. (France)/Samsa Film (Luxembourg) production in collaboration with BV McCann Erickson, Societatea Realitatea Media, Centrului National Al Cinematografiel. (International sales: BAC Films, Paris.) Produced by Vlad Paunescu. Executive producer, Alina David. Co-producers, Dominique Barneaud, Nicolas Blanc, Jani Thiltges. Directed by Horatiu Malaele. Screenplay, Adrian Lustig, Horatiu Malaele.
  Bucolic farce veers abruptly into nightmare when Stalin's death interrupts a young couple's wedding celebration in Romanian thesp Horatiu Malaele's '50s-set helming debut. Though "Wedding" has been likened to Emir Kusturica's madcap gypsy romps, the pic's magic realism-dusted portrayal of backwater villagers exudes a folkloric gentility very different from the havoc wreaked by Kusturica's explosive Roms. Horror, when it arrives, come from the outside; nothing within the peaceful hamlet echoes the evil that descends upon it. Morally simplistic but highly accessible, with its ingenious "silent wedding" centerpiece, the pic, already in theatrical release globally, could find receptive Stateside auds.
It is 1953, but the village seems stuck in a far earlier time; there's no electricity, and telephones and gasoline-powered vehicles are the exclusive province of officialdom. Women work around the farmhouse and men congregate in the tavern, alongside the occasional chicken. The local representatives of communist oppression are about as threatening as a band of Boy Scouts.

Culture shock tends toward the benign, as when a naked young couple suddenly rears up from behind the long grasses of a seemingly empty field. Even madness assumes nymphlike form as a white-robed young woman wanders the woods like some flower-crowned Ophelia.

Helmer Malaele is enamored of quiet fantastical touches. A would-be Icarus tools around the countryside on a spindly old two-wheeled bicycle, sporting aviator goggles and canvas wings. The high-wheeler later serves to motor the government-mandated outdoor screening of a Soviet meller, which is interrupted by the silent passage of a torch-lit traveling circus which, Pied Piper-like, lures away the entire town.

The community's only source of conflict is resolved when the boy and girl who have been bonking like rabbits, in granaries and nearby pastures, decide to get married. But just as townsfolk are gearing up for the nuptial bash, a Russian officer brings news of Stalin's death and declares all celebrations verboten.

In Malaele's extended showstopper, the wedding party disperses and reforms clandestinely in utter silence. Glasses, chairs and musical instruments are wrapped in burlap; even children are gagged after wild spates of giggling. Wordless toasts are offered, air applause is given, and the slightest sound causes ripples of reaction down the long length of the single table. When the revelers finally throw caution to the wind, it reps the beginning of the end.

Though Malaele pulls off the pic's tonal shifts with panache, greatly aided by strong ensemble thesping, the film never quite sustains the inner tension required to link its series of isolated, sometimes cunningly crafted setpieces.

Camera (color, widescreen), Vivi Dragan Vasile; editor, Cristi Nicolescu; music, Alexandru Andries; production designer, Mihnea Mihailescu; costume designer, Oana Paunescu; sound (Dolby Digital), Tiberiu Borcoman, Victor Popescu. Reviewed at Romanian Film Festival, New York, Dec. 6, 2009. Running time: 87 MIN. (Romanian dialogue)

Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP



Synopsis: In 1911-12, the Romanian movie director Grigore Brezianu and the financial tycoon Leon Popescu made together the 2 hours long movie "Romania's Independence" – an as faithful as possible screen adaptation of the real Independence War that had been fought in 1877. Now, "Restul e tacere" tells us, in a loose and half-fictionalized way, the story of this movie making.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0839967/


http://rapidshare.com/files/347538663/The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/347536375/The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/347538002/The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP.part3.rar
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http://rapidshare.com/files/347536866/The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP.part7.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/347519639/The.Rest.Is.Silence.2007.DVDRip.XviD-LAP.part8.rar
"...get your kicks all around the world, give a tip to a geisha-girl..."

Alexdelarge

INTERVJU: KRISTIJAN MUNĐIJU, reditelj
Crkvi crkveno, filmu filmsko

Ne bavim se osudom krivaca, već pitanjem da li stvarno pomažemo drugima kada im namećemo svoj sistem vrednosti protiv njihove volje

Kan–Kanski dani, ove godine jakog takmičarskog programa, polako se bliže kraju,a na samom vrhu, osim Hanekeove ,,Ljubavi" je i film ,,Iza brda" mladog rumunskog realiste, scenariste i reditelja Kristijana Munđijua.

Inteligentan, insinuativan i kompleksan film u kojem autor preispituje odnose između duhovnog i svetovnog, grupnog i individualnog, religijskog i nereligijskog, dozvoljenog i nedozvoljenog u ljubavi, ali i diskretno analizira jednu od aktuelnih tema u savremenom rumunskom društvu. ,,Iza brda" je po svojoj formi, stilu i ritmu, potpuno drugačiji od prethodnog Munđijuovog filma ,,Četiri meseca, tri nedelje i dva dana", za koji je 2007. godine u Kanu osvojio ,,Zlatnu palmu".

Jeste li ovim filmompokušali da nam kažete kako je religija opijum za narod?

Verujte, nije mi bila namera da bilo koga kritikujem ili generalizujem stvari o rumunskoj pravoslavnoj crkvi,niti da govorim o ljudskim uverenjima. Ovaj film je inspirisan istinitim događajem, kada je jedan sveštenik izvršio čin egzorsizma nad devojkom za koju se, posle njene iznenadne smrti, ispostavilo da je bila šizofrenik. Dakle, moj film nije sveobuhvatan. On ne opisuje stanje rumunskog društva preko te male manastirske zajednice u okviru koje je smeštena radnja mog filma i govori o praznoverju, a ne o religiji.

Vi ipak u filmu vagate duhovno i svetovno, crkveno i sekularno?

Pre svega, govorim o ravnodušnosti društva posle pedeset godina komunizma i još dvadeset godina razočarenja u takozvanom tranzicionom periodu, i o tome kako to razočarenje utiče na osećaj za moral rumunskog naroda.

Dali je i to razlog što se ljudi sve više okreću crkvi?

Naša pravoslavna crkva bila je popularna i pre, ali posle pada komunizma postaje sve popularnija, sve moćnija i sve bogatija. Sveštenici su na listama popularnosti i najvećeg poverenja rumunskih građana, daleko ispred političara. Zbog toga je za političare kritikovanje pravoslavne crkve neka vrsta tabu teme, a možda je i to razlog što u Rumuniji danas postoji nešto manje od pet stotina bolnica, manje od pet hiljada škola i više od dvadeset hiljada crkava.

,,Iza brda" označava razliku između vere, religije i crkve kao institucije?

Da, označava razliku, ali govori o sve te tri stvari. Tačnije, govori o nuspojavama doslovnog tumačenja religije, ali i o duhu hrišćanstva u odnosu na bespogovorno poštovanje propisa i zapovedi. Govori i o tome da se danas vera u duboke humanističke vrednosti hrišćanstva ne proširuje u skladu sa tim, već se više pažnje posvećuje na spoljašnju formu i efekte crkve.

Ko su pravi krivci za smrt devojke od koje se stalno zahtevalo odricanje od ljubavi?

Pravi krivci nisu sadržani u ovoj priči. Film nam samo pokazuje žrtvu. Ne bavim se osudom krivaca, već postavljanjem pitanja da li smo uvek u pravu u izboru načina na koji pomažemo drugima, čak i onima koje volimo? Da li stvarno pomažemo kada namećemo svoj sistem vrednosti drugima protiv njihove volje? Poput dobrog i plemenitog sveštenika u mom filmu,koji misli da pomaže devojci kojoj niko drugi ne pruža pomoć, ni bolnica ni njeni bivši usvojitelji, i koji neuspeh društva tumači kao dozvolu da učini sve što on smatra da je dobro za njen spas.

Za razliku od ,,Četirimeseca, trinedelje i dvadana", filmu o prijateljskom odnosu između dve devojke, u filmu ,,Iza brda" insinuirate drugačiji odnos između glavnih junakinja od kojih je jedna monahinja?

,,Iza brda" nije film o prijateljstvu kao mojprethodni film, nego o ljubavi, o tome šta odustajanje od ljubavi izaziva u nama i o izborima koje donosimo. On je više poput romana u kojem prvo treba da razumete kontekst da biste razumeli događaj, njegove posledice i stepen odgovornosti svakog lika koji u događaju učestvuje.

Nije li višak onih dvadesetak minuta pošto lik, koji je glavni pokretač drame, umire?

Čujem mnoge komentare da je film predug, ali meni je bilo neophodno da dozvolim vreme liku monahinje da spozna šta se zapravo dogodilo.

Ovaj film je kompleksniji, stilski drugačiji i očigledno mnogo zahtevniji od ,,Četirimeseca..." Svaki vaš kadar je dobro i precizno organizovan, pun detalja...?

Bilo je to iscrpljujućih 18 meseci rada u prostoru malih manastirskih ćelija, kuhinje i omalene crkve, gde je svaka scena morala da bude izuzetno precizno postavljena kako mi se ne bi desilo da mi nešto ispadne iz kadra. Zato sam sa snimateljem po sat vremena pre početka snimanja scene, analizirao svaki detalj i gde ko treba da stoji ili se kreće u malom prostoru. Tek onda bih pozvao glumce.

Fotografija u filmu je izvrsna i opet je to rezultat saradnje sa snimateljem OlegomMutuom sa kojim ste radili i prethodne filmove?

Sa Olegom radim još od studentskih dana i nema potrebe da međusobno puno pričamo. On ima neverovatan talenat bez kojih teško da bih ja postigao ovakve rezultate.

Očekuju li Rumuni sada od vas i drugu ,,Zlatnu palmu"?

Sigurno je da bi se tome radovali. Ne krijem da bih se i ja radovao, mada mi ni prva ,,palma" nije donela manje muka. Jedini dobitak bilo je putovanje prvom klasom. I dalje imam istu kancelariju, vozim istiautomobil, snimam reklame s vremena na vreme kako bih preživeo i teškom mukom nalazim novac za naredni film. Tako je bilo i za film ,,Iza brda". U rumunskim filmskim fondovima su me dočekivali sa pitanjem: ,,Šta će tebi pare kada imaš ,,Zlatnu palmu", pa pare možeš da nađeš u inostranstvu?", misleći valjda da stvari tako funkcionišu...

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Kultura/Kristijan-Mundjiju-Crkvi-crkveno-filmu-filmsko-Dubravka-Lakic.lt.html

moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

Ghoul

Quote from: Alexdelarge on 27-05-2012, 18:30:42
u Rumuniji danas postoji nešto manje od pet stotina bolnica, manje od pet hiljada škola i više od dvadeset hiljada crkava.

stravično!!! xuss :x

pitam se kako bi ove cifre i odnosi snaga bolnice-škole-crkve izgledali u srbiji?  :idea:
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

tomat

da, to sam se i ja skoro zapitao.
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Agota

Trailer: "După dealuri" (2012) | "Au-delà des collines" | "Beyond the Hills"

...evo i trejlera ....nadam se da necemo predugo cekati da pogledamo isti.
....ipak nestrpljivija sam da pogledam Hanekeov '' Amour''.
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

"...get your kicks all around the world, give a tip to a geisha-girl..."

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

"...get your kicks all around the world, give a tip to a geisha-girl..."

Agota

...jel proverio neko ove Rumune??
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

Beyond the Hills 2012 DVDrip XviD HARDSUBBED-XaW



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2258281/
"...get your kicks all around the world, give a tip to a geisha-girl..."

Ghoul

NAJZAD!  :!:

verzija bez titla me golica već neko vreme...
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Ghoul

ZLATNI GHOUL
ZA DRAMU
BEYOND THE HILLS (Dupa dealuri)
(Romania)

ZLATNI GHOUL
ZA KAMERU
Oleg Mutu
BEYOND THE HILLS
(Romania)



http://ljudska_splacina.com/2013/01/zlatni-ghoul-za-ne-horor-u-2012-godini.html
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

tomat

Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Ghoul

Quote from: tomat on 13-02-2014, 23:09:22
je l ko gledao ovo

www.imdb.com/title/tt2332881

isprazna, besciljna, nekonsekventna šarena laža - lepo slikano, dobar production design, ali žali bože para, truda i lepote kad je to neduhovito i šuplje.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Agota

This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Dybuk

Ceo film s engleskim prevodom:

http://youtu.be/mz4v7J7Sbwo

Nisam odusevljena, price o decackom sazrevanju me interesuju...samo donekle i najboljse podnosim plasticnost i eksplicitnost pojedinih - glavnih - elemenata narecenog u pisanoj reci, kao u Bludnom Sinu, npr. Ima tu dobrih stvari, autenticno cemerna atmosfera siromasnog geta i kraj koji se dao naslutiti, i koji je za mene najbolji deo filma.
Iza Brda je zgotovljen, pogledacu cim stignem.  :)

Agota

This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Agota

This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...