RUSSIA TODAY

[SIMERIJANAC]

Надам се да дечко неће завршити на суду за ратне злочине.

http://www.pravda.rs/2014/07/31/on-je-pozvao-fudbalere-novorusije-u-srbiju/

[Tex Murphy]

Мени ово за сада изгледа много лоше, ал се надам да гријешим и да су дејан и Драгослав Бокан у праву

[SIMERIJANAC]

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[/size]01.08.2014. Bastards! What the hellish bastards!
[/size]Message from Igor Strelkov personally:
[/size]"We have a tragedy. Today there was an exchange of captives.
We exchanged two of our militia men for two expeditionary force soldiers from the 25th expeditionary force brigade captured by us.
Our [Ukrainian] captives waked on their own legs to their military friends. Our militia men were thrown down like sacks full of fractured bones: all their inner organs were beaten off. The possibility that our friends will survive are almost at a zero point... Bastards! What the hellish bastards!
These military regiments were not nazi guards - these were the expeditionary forces from the 25th Dnepropetrovsk brigade. We have taken this into account. I ordered that from now on we will never take captive any of the officers from the 25th Dnepropetrovsk brigade. NEVER."

[дејан]

џон пилџер даје одличан приказ нашег времена (чланак је дуг па ко има времена за себе нек баци поглед) (филмови - http://johnpilger.com/filmography )

The return of George Orwell and Big Brother's war on Palestine, Ukraine and the truth

The other night, I saw George Orwells's '1984' performed on the London stage. Although crying out for a contemporary interpretation, Orwell's warning about the future was presented as a period piece: remote, unthreatening, almost reassuring. It was as if Edward Snowden had revealed nothing, Big Brother was not now a digital eavesdropper and Orwell himself had never said, "To be corrupted by totalitarianism, one does not have to live in a totalitarian country."


Acclaimed by critics, the skilful production was a measure of our cultural and political times. When the lights came up, people were already on their way out. They seemed unmoved, or perhaps other distractions beckoned. "What a mindfuck," said the young woman, lighting up her phone.


As advanced societies are de-politicised, the changes are both subtle and spectacular. In everyday discourse, political language is turned on its head, as Orwell prophesised in '1984'. "Democracy" is now a rhetorical device. Peace is "perpetual war". "Global" is imperial. The once hopeful concept of "reform" now means regression, even destruction. "Austerity" is the imposition of extreme capitalism on the poor and the gift of socialism for the rich: an ingenious system under which the majority service the debts of the few.


In the arts, hostility to political truth-telling is an article of bourgeois faith. "Picasso's red period," says an Observer headline, "and why politics don't make good art." Consider this in a newspaper that promoted the bloodbath in Iraq as a liberal crusade. Picasso's lifelong opposition to fascism is a footnote, just as Orwell's radicalism has faded from the prize that appropriated his name.


A few years ago, Terry Eagleton, then professor of English literature at Manchester University, reckoned that "for the first time in two centuries, there is no eminent British poet, playwright or novelist prepared to question the foundations of the western way of life". No Shelley speaks for the poor, no Blake for utopian dreams, no Byron damns the corruption of the ruling class, no Thomas Carlyle and John Ruskin reveal the moral disaster of capitalism. William Morris, Oscar Wilde, HG Wells, George Bernard Shaw have no equivalents today. Harold Pinter was the last to raise his voice. Among the insistent voices of consumer-feminism, none echoes Virginia Woolf, who described "the arts of dominating other people... of ruling, of killing, of acquiring land and capital".


At the National Theatre, a new play, 'Great Britain', satirises the phone hacking scandal that has seen journalists tried and convicted, including a former editor of Rupert Murdoch's News of the World. Described as a "farce with fangs [that] puts the whole incestuous [media] culture in the dock and subjects it to merciless ridicule", the play's targets are the "blessedly funny" characters in Britain's tabloid press. That is well and good, and so familiar. What of the non-tabloid media that regards itself as reputable and credible, yet serves a parallel role as an arm of state and corporate power, as in the promotion of illegal war?


The Leveson inquiry into phone hacking glimpsed this unmentionable. Tony Blair was giving evidence, complaining to His Lordship about the tabloids' harassment of his wife, when he was interrupted by a voice from the public gallery. David Lawley-Wakelin, a film-maker, demanded Blair's arrest and prosecution for war crimes. There was a long pause: the shock of truth. Lord Leveson leapt to his feet and ordered the truth-teller thrown out and apologised to the war criminal. Lawley-Wakelin was prosecuted; Blair went free.


Blair's enduring accomplices are more respectable than the phone hackers. When the BBC arts presenter, Kirsty Wark, interviewed him on the tenth anniversary of his invasion of Iraq, she gifted him a moment he could only dream of; she allowed him to agonise over his "difficult" decision on Iraq rather than call him to account for his epic crime. This evoked the procession of BBC journalists who in 2003 declared that Blair could feel "vindicated", and the subsequent, "seminal" BBC series, 'The Blair Years', for which David Aaronovitch was chosen as the writer, presenter and interviewer. A Murdoch retainer who campaigned for military attacks on Iraq, Libya and Syria, Aaronovitch fawned expertly.


Since the invasion of Iraq - the exemplar of an act of unprovoked aggression the Nuremberg prosecutor Robert Jackson called "the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole" - Blair and his mouthpiece and principal accomplice, Alastair Campbell, have been afforded generous space in the Guardian to rehabilitate their reputations. Described as a Labour Party "star", Campbell has sought the sympathy of readers for his depression and displayed his interests, though not his current assignment as advisor, with Blair, to the Egyptian military tyranny. 


As Iraq is dismembered as a consequence of the Blair/Bush invasion, a Guardian headline declares: "Toppling Saddam was right, but we pulled out too soon". This ran across a prominent article on 13 June by a former Blair functionary, John McTernan, who also served Iraq's CIA installed dictator Iyad Allawi. In calling for a repeat invasion of a country his former master helped destroy, he made no reference to the deaths of at least 700,000 people, the flight of four million refugees and sectarian turmoil in a nation once proud of its communal tolerance.


"Blair embodies corruption and war," wrote the radical Guardian columnist Seumas Milne in a spirited piece on 3 July. This is known in the trade as "balance". The following day, the paper published a full-page advertisement for an American Stealth bomber. On a menacing image of the bomber were the words: "The F-35. GREAT For Britain". This other embodiment of "corruption and war" will cost British taxpayers £1.3 billion, its F-model predecessors having slaughtered people across the developing world.


In a village in Afghanistan, inhabited by the poorest of the poor, I filmed Orifa, kneeling at the graves of her husband, Gul Ahmed, a carpet weaver, seven other members of her family, including six children, and two children who were killed in the adjacent house. A "precision" 500-pound bomb fell directly on their small mud, stone and straw house, leaving a crater 50 feet wide. Lockheed Martin, the plane's manufacturer's, had pride of place in the Guardian's advertisement.


The former US secretary of state and aspiring president of the United States, Hillary Clinton, was recently on the BBC's 'Women's Hour', the quintessence of media respectability. The presenter, Jenni Murray, presented Clinton as a beacon of female achievement. She did not remind her listeners about Clinton's profanity that Afghanistan was invaded to "liberate" women like Orifa. She asked  Clinton nothing about her administration's terror campaign using drones to kill women, men and children. There was no mention of Clinton's idle threat, while campaigning to be the first female president, to "eliminate" Iran, and nothing about her support for illegal mass surveillance and the pursuit of whistle-blowers.


Murray did ask one finger-to-the-lips question. Had Clinton forgiven Monica Lewinsky for having an affair with husband? "Forgiveness is a choice," said Clinton, "for me, it was absolutely the right choice." This recalled the 1990s and the years consumed by the Lewinsky "scandal". President Bill Clinton was then invading Haiti, and bombing the Balkans, Africa and Iraq. He was also destroying the lives of Iraqi children; Unicef reported the deaths of half a million Iraqi infants under the age of five as a result of an embargo led by the US and Britain.


The children were media unpeople, just as Hillary Clinton's victims in the invasions she supported and promoted - Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia - are media unpeople. Murray made no reference to them. A photograph of her and her distinguished guest, beaming, appears on the BBC website.


In politics as in journalism and the arts, it seems that dissent once tolerated in the "mainstream" has regressed to a dissidence: a metaphoric underground. When I began a career in Britain's Fleet Street in the 1960s, it was acceptable to critique western power as a rapacious force. Read James Cameron's celebrated reports of the explosion of the Hydrogen bomb at Bikini Atoll, the barbaric war in Korea and the American bombing of North Vietnam. Today's grand illusion is of an information age when, in truth, we live in a media age in which incessant corporate propaganda is insidious, contagious, effective and liberal.


In his 1859 essay 'On Liberty', to which modern liberals pay homage, John Stuart Mill wrote: "Despotism is a legitimate mode of government in dealing with barbarians, provided the end be their improvement, and the means justified by actually effecting that end." The "barbarians" were large sections of humanity of whom "implicit obedience" was required. "It's a nice and convenient myth that liberals are peacemakers and conservatives the warmongers," wrote the historian Hywel Williams in 2001, "but the imperialism of the liberal way may be more dangerous because of its open-ended nature: its conviction that it represents a superior form of life." He had in mind a speech by Blair in which the then prime minister promised to "reorder the world around us" according to his "moral values".


Richard Falk, the respected authority on international law and the UN Special Rapporteur on Palestine, once described a "a self-righteous, one-way, legal/moral screen [with] positive images of western values and innocence portrayed as threatened, validating a campaign of unrestricted political violence". It is "so widely accepted as to be virtually unchallengeable".


Tenure and patronage reward the guardians. On BBC Radio 4, Razia Iqbal interviewed Toni Morrison, the African-American Nobel Laureate. Morrison wondered why people were "so angry" with Barack Obama, who was "cool" and wished to build a "strong economy and health care". Morrison was proud to have talked on the phone with her hero, who had read one of her books and invited her to his inauguration.


Neither she nor her interviewer mentioned Obama's seven wars, including his terror campaign by drone, in which whole families, their rescuers and mourners have been murdered. What seemed to matter was that a "finely spoken" man of colour had risen to the commanding heights of power. In 'The Wretched of the Earth', Frantz Fanon wrote that the "historic mission" of the colonised was to serve as a "transmission line" to those who ruled and oppressed. In the modern era, the employment of ethnic difference in western power and propaganda systems is now seen as essential. Obama epitomises this, though the cabinet of George W. Bush - his warmongering clique - was the most multiracial in presidential history.


As the Iraqi city of Mosul fell to the jihadists of ISIS, Obama said, "The American people made huge investments and sacrifices in order to give Iraqis the opportunity to chart a better destiny." How "cool" is that lie? How "finely spoken" was Obama's speech at the West Point military academy on 28 May. Delivering his "state of the world" address at the graduation ceremony of those who "will take American leadership" across the world, Obama said, "The United States will use military force, unilaterally if necessary, when our core interests demand it. International opinion matters, but America will never ask permission..."


In repudiating international law and the rights of independent nations, the American president claims a divinity based on the might of his "indispensable nation". It is a familiar message of imperial impunity, though always bracing to hear. Evoking the rise of fascism in the 1930s, Obama said, "I believe in American exceptionalism with every fibre of my being." Historian Norman Pollack wrote: "For goose-steppers, substitute the seemingly more innocuous militarisation of the total culture. And for the bombastic leader, we have the reformer manqué, blithely at work, planning and executing assassination, smiling all the while."


In February, the US mounted one of its "colour" coups against the elected government in Ukraine, exploiting genuine protests against corruption in Kiev. Obama's assistant secretary of state, Victoria Nuland, personally selected the leader of an "interim government". She nicknamed him "Yats". Vice President Joe Biden came to Kiev, as did CIA Director John Brennan. The shock troops of their putsch were Ukrainian fascists.


For the first time since 1945, a neo-Nazi, openly anti-Semitic party controls key areas of state power in a European capital. No Western European leader has condemned this revival of fascism in the borderland through which Hitler's invading Nazis took millions of Russian lives. They were supported by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), responsible for the massacre of Jews and Russians they called "vermin". The UPA is the historical inspiration of the present-day Svoboda Party and its fellow-travelling Right Sector. Svoboda leader Oleh Tyahnybok has called for a purge of the "Moscow-Jewish mafia" and "other scum", including gays, feminists and those on the political left.


Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato Enlargement Project. Reneging on a promise made to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 that Nato would not expand "one inch to the east", Nato has, in effect, militarily occupied eastern Europe. In the former Soviet Caucasus, Nato's expansion is the biggest military build-up since the Second World War.


A Nato Membership Action Plan is Washington's gift to the coup-regime in Kiev. In August, "Operation Rapid Trident" will put American and British troops on Ukraine's Russian border and "Sea Breeze" will send US warships within sight of Russian ports. Imagine the response if these acts of provocation, or intimidation, were carried out on America's borders.


In reclaiming Crimea - which Nikita Kruschev illegally detached from Russia in 1954 - the Russians defended themselves as they have done for almost a century. More than 90 per cent of the population of Crimea voted to return the territory to Russia. Crimea is the home of the Black Sea Fleet and its loss would mean life or death for the Russian Navy and a prize for Nato. Confounding the war parties in Washington and Kiev, Vladimir Putin withdrew troops from the Ukrainian border and urged ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine to abandon separatism.


In Orwellian fashion, this has been inverted in the west to the "Russian threat". Hillary Clinton likened Putin to Hitler. Without irony, right-wing German commentators said as much. In the media, the Ukrainian neo-Nazis are sanitised as "nationalists" or "ultra nationalists". What they fear is that Putin is skilfully seeking a diplomatic solution, and may succeed. On 27 June, responding to Putin's latest accommodation - his request to the Russian Parliament to rescind legislation that gave him the power to intervene on behalf of Ukraine's ethnic Russians - Secretary of State John Kerry issued another of his ultimatums. Russia must "act within the next few hours, literally" to end the revolt in eastern Ukraine. Notwithstanding that Kerry is widely recognised as a buffoon, the serious purpose of these "warnings" is to confer pariah status on Russia and suppress news of the Kiev regime's war on its own people.


A third of the population of Ukraine are Russian-speaking and bilingual. They have long sought a democratic federation that reflects Ukraine's ethnic diversity and is both autonomous and independent of Moscow. Most are neither "separatists" nor "rebels" but citizens who want to live securely in their homeland. Separatism is a reaction to the Kiev junta's attacks on them, causing as many as 110,000 (UN estimate) to flee across the border into Russia. Typically, they are traumatised women and children.


Like Iraq's embargoed infants, and Afghanistan's "liberated" women and girls, terrorised by the CIA's warlords, these ethnic people of Ukraine are media unpeople in the west, their suffering and the atrocities committed against them minimised, or suppressed. No sense of the scale of the regime's assault is reported in the mainstream western media. This is not unprecedented. Reading again Phillip Knightley's masterly 'The First Casualty: the war correspondent as hero, propagandist and mythmaker', I renewed my admiration for the Manchester Guardian's Morgan Philips Price, the only western reporter to remain in Russia during the 1917 revolution and report the truth of a disastrous invasion by the western allies. Fair-minded and courageous, Philips Price alone disturbed what Knightley calls an anti-Russian "dark silence" in the west.


On 2 May, in Odessa, 41 ethnic Russians were burned alive in the trade union headquarters with police standing by. There is horrifying video evidence. The Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh hailed the massacre as "another bright day in our national history". In the American and British media, this was reported as a "murky tragedy" resulting from "clashes" between "nationalists" (neo-Nazis) and "separatists" (people collecting signatures for a referendum on a federal Ukraine). The New York Times buried it, having dismissed as Russian propaganda warnings about the fascist and anti-Semitic policies of Washington's new clients. The Wall Street Journal damned the victims - "Deadly Ukraine Fire Likely Sparked by Rebels, Government Says". Obama congratulated the junta for its "restraint".


On 28 June, the Guardian devoted most of a page to declarations by the Kiev regime's "president", the oligarch Petro Poroshenko.  Again, Orwell's rule of inversion applied. There was no putsch; no war against Ukraine's minority; the Russians were to blame for everything. "We want to modernise my country," said Poroshenko. "We want to introduce freedom, democracy and European values. Somebody doesn't like that. Somebody doesn't like us for that."


According to his report, the Guardian's reporter, Luke Harding, did not challenge these assertions, or mention the Odessa atrocity, the regime's air and artillery attacks on residential areas, the killing and kidnapping of journalists, the firebombing of an opposition newspaper and his threat to "free Ukraine from dirt and parasites". The enemy are "rebels", "militants", "insurgents", "terrorists" and stooges of the Kremlin. The current campaign to blame the Russian government for the downing of the Malaysian airliner is part of this propaganda. In truth, the crime of the airliner's shooting down is a direct result of Obama's putsch in Ukraine. Summon from history the ghosts of Vietnam, Chile, East Timor, southern Africa, Iraq; note the same propagated tags, the same false flags. Palestine is the lodestone of this unchanging deceit. Following the latest Israeli, American equipped slaughter in Gaza of more than 800 Palestinians - including 120 children - an Israeli general writes in the Guardian under the headline, "A necessary show of force".


In the 1970s, I met Leni Riefenstahl and asked her about her films that glorified the Nazis. Using revolutionary camera and lighting techniques, she produced a documentary form that mesmerised Germans; it was her 'Triumph of the Will' that reputedly cast Hitler's spell. I asked her about propaganda in societies that imagined themselves superior. She replied that the "messages" in her films were dependent not on "orders from above" but on a "submissive void" in the German population. "Did that include the liberal, educated bourgeoisie?" I asked. "Everyone," she replied, "and of course the intelligentsia."

[Loni]

Sa politike bih prešao na novi Putinov zakon koji zabranjuje psovke u svim ruskim budućim filmovima, knjigama i medijima.

Ja se sad pitam, šta ako neko piše scenariju u kome su glavni akteri krimosi, makroi i prostitutke.
Kakav će oni dijalog da vode...

PROSTITUTKA: (baca čašu na makroa) Evo Vam za neisplaćen lični dohodak. Evo!

MAKRO: (drži razbijenu glavu)... Kur...! BIIIIP....    Šta učini ti, ti, agencijanko poslovne pratnje, jedna!

PROSTITUTKA: Tek ću učiniti. Sad ću vas šutnuti u mud.... BIIIIP... u... predeo mošnica i polnoh organa. Tako da sve zvezde vidite.

MAKRO: Ti si jedno đub... BIIIIIP.... Omot! Ti si omot istrošenih stvari, nepojeden deo breskve, paklo iz koga su ispušene sve cigare. Odslužen si produkt pogodan za bacit'.

PROSTITUTKA: Dosta mi je svega. Više nikom ne dam da me preko vas jeb.... BIIIIIP... obljubljuje radi novčano-robne razmene.

MAKRO: Marš u pi... BIIIIP .... Budi ljubazna, izvoli do vagine mamine.

[Tex Murphy]

Одакле ти тај закон? Дај линк.

[Meho Krljic]

Ti si bre, Harvestere, potpuno van sveta, jebote. Cela zapadna javnost bruji o tome već mesecima. Evo ti sa ruskog (as in Putin controlled) medija


http://rt.com/politics/169632-russia-language-explicit-ban/



Mada, naravno da će ovo dovesti do bizarnih situacija. U Kini imaju filter koji sprečava psvoke onlajn pa su Kinezi napravili praktično mem od korišćenja izraza "travnato blato", što ne znači ništa ali ZVUČI kao "jebem ti mater" na mandarinskom ili kantonskom ili kom već njihovom popularnom dijalektu pa sad umesto da psuju koriste taj termin. Videćemo šta će Rusi da smisle.

[scallop]

U SAD postoji zakon protiv deset reči na javnim medijima. To što vi gledate na srpskim TV nema šanse da gledate u SAD. Osim na plaćenim kanalima. Gledao sam tamo Showgirls i trajao je oko 15 minuta. Sve ostalo je isečeno.

[Meho Krljic]

Da, ali ovde je kontroverzno što ne može da se opsuje na pozorišnoj predstavi, u filmu u bioskopu (na DVD-ju može ali da se prodaje u specijalnom pakovanju koje ukazuje na opscenosti), na koncertu (uključujući tekst pesme) ili bilo kakvom javnom govoru gde se obraćaš ljudima (na primer, čitanje poezije, stendap komedija). To je dosta širok zahvat, širi od američkih zakona o opscenosti, plus, za sada ne postoji spisak reči koje se smaraju "mat" rečima, već se računa da će se u slučajevima koji nisu jasni osloniti na rad komisije a da će posle izvesnog vremena ta komisija sastaviti spisak reči. Što je svakako neugodno i očigledno podložno svakojakim zloupotrebama & manipulacijama. Zapadni mediji pojašnjavaju da ovo podrazumeva i psovanje u knjigama i na blogovima što je već apsurd, ali to ovaj RT članak ne pominje.

[scallop]

Jebote, mi smo najebali! Ako budemo na njihovoj strani. Deca neće imati gde da se opismene. Niko mi neće reći: "Odjebi, matori!" Katastrofa!

[Meho Krljic]

Moći će to da ti kažu, ali samo u face to face komunikaciji. Neće recimo smeti da blog post nazovu "Odjebi, Skalope".

[scallop]

Znao sam da ćeš imati odgovor. A da sebi počneš da postavljaš neka druga, manje "demokratska" pitanja. Da ti ne prođe WWIII, a da ne primetiš?

[Tex Murphy]

Jebote, mi smo najebali! Ako budemo na njihovoj strani. Deca neće imati gde da se opismene. Niko mi neće reći: "Odjebi, matori!" Katastrofa!

[SIMERIJANAC]

http://youtu.be/IeOV9rwt-Es

Ево шта ради наша храбра украјинска армија,хвала вам Владимире Владимировићу за наду коју сте нам дали,резултате ваше наде сада посмотрамо,ја сам се заклео СССР-у,значи Русији,на атомској подморници и сада гледамо резултате тога што се код нас догодило,злочине без казне које сте им ви дозволили,ради шта хоћеш и с чим хоћеш,захваљујући вама нама се дешава ово,хвала вам Владимире Владимировићу и хвала братском руском народу.Ја сам из Вороњежа,отац ми је из Брјанска,чист сам Рус и шта сада,шта да радимо?Они ево сада пуцају,ударају по целом граду,ви чекате да лешеве крену да возе у железничким композицијама?Сада их возе у камионима.Можда ћете нешто урадити када крену да возе лешеве железничким композицијама,јел то чекате?Не знам шта да радим,ја сада седим и посматрам,зашто је овај пас погинуо?Шта треба да се уради?Треба их научити памети.Да се не би осећали тако да могу све и да раде шта хоће.Они се не боје никога.Провоцирају Русију,провоцирају Русију,е ово ће бити и у Русији,то ће бити и у Русији,дочекаће,ако се на време не заустави ово ће исто бити у Русији,нека виде и донесу закључке,њих чека ово исто,од тих гов..а бандеровских"

[Meho Krljic]

Telegraph ima reportažu o neonacističkim jedinicama koje se bore na strani ukrajinskih lojalista:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11025137/Ukraine-crisis-the-neo-Nazi-brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html

The fighters of the Azov battalion lined up in single file to say farewell to their fallen comrade. His pallid corpse lay under the sun in an open casket trimmed with blue velvet.   Some of the men placed carnations by the body, others roses. Many struck their chests with a closed fist before touching their dead friend's arm. One fighter had an SS tattoo on his neck.   Sergiy Grek, 22, lost a leg and died from massive blood loss after a radio-controlled anti-tank mine exploded near to him.   As Ukraine's armed forces tighten the noose around pro-Russian separatists in the east of the country, the western-backed government in Kiev is throwing militia groups – some openly neo-Nazi - into the front of the battle.   The Azov battalion has the most chilling reputation of all. Last week, it came to the fore as it mounted a bold attack on the rebel redoubt of Donetsk, striking deep into the suburbs of a city under siege.



In Marinka, on the western outskirts, the battalion was sent forward ahead of tanks and armoured vehicles of the Ukrainian army's 51st Mechanised Brigade. A ferocious close-quarters fight ensued as they got caught in an ambush laid by well-trained separatists, who shot from 30 yards away. The Azov irregulars replied with a squall of fire, fending off the attack and seizing a rebel checkpoint.
Mr Grek, also known as "Balagan", died in the battle and 14 others were wounded. Speaking after the ceremony Andriy Biletsky, the battalion's commander, told the Telegraph the operation had been a "100% success". "The battalion is a family and every death is painful to us but these were minimal losses," he said. "Most important of all, we established a bridgehead for the attack on Donetsk. And when that comes we will be leading the way."
The military achievement is hard to dispute. By securing Marinka the battalion "widened the front and tightened the circle", around the rebels' capital, as another fighter put it. While Vladimir Putin, Russia's president, prevaricates about sending an invasion force into Ukraine, the rebels he backs are losing ground fast.
But Kiev's use of volunteer paramilitaries to stamp out the Russian-backed Donetsk and Luhansk "people's republics", proclaimed in eastern Ukraine in March, should send a shiver down Europe's spine. Recently formed battalions such as Donbas, Dnipro and Azov, with several thousand men under their command, are officially under the control of the interior ministry but their financing is murky, their training inadequate and their ideology often alarming.
The Azov men use the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf's Hook) symbol on their banner and members of the battalion are openly white supremacists, or anti-Semites.



"Personally, I'm a Nazi," said "Phantom", a 23-year-old former lawyer at the ceremony wearing camouflage and holding a Kalashnikov. "I don't hate any other nationalities but I believe each nation should have its own country." He added: "We have one idea: to liberate our land from terrorists."
The Telegraph was invited to see some 300 Azov fighters pay respects to Mr Grek, their first comrade to die since the battalion was formed in May. An honour guard fired volleys into the air at the battalion's headquarters on the edge of Urzuf, a small beach resort on Ukraine's Azov Sea coast. Two more militiamen died on Sunday fighting north of Donetsk <<Aug 10>>. Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine's president, called one of them a hero.
Each new recruit receives only a couple of weeks of training before joining the battalion. The interior ministry and private donors provide weapons.
The HQ is a seaside dacha compound dotted with pines that once belonged to the ousted president of Ukraine, Vladimir Yanukovich, when he was governor of this region. Families in swimsuits with towels and inflatable rings walk past gate-guards toting automatic rifles.
Parked inside among wooden gazebos overlooking the sea are the tools of Azov's trade – two armoured personnel carriers, a converted truck with retractable steel shutters to cover its windows, and several Nissan pick-ups fitted with machine-gun mounts.



Mr Biletsky, a muscular man in a black T-shirt and camouflage trousers, said the battalion was a light infantry unit, ideal for the urban warfare needed to take cities like Donetsk.
The 35-year old commander began creating the battalion after he was released from pre-trial detention in February in the wake of pro-western protests in Kiev. He had denied a charge of attempted murder, claiming it was politically motivated.
A former history student and amateur boxer, Mr Biletsky is also head of an extremist Ukrainian group called the Social National Assembly. "The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival," he wrote in a recent commentary. "A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen."
The battalion itself is founded on right wing views, the commander said in Urzuf, and no Nazi convictions could exclude a recruit. "The most important thing is being a good fighter and a good brother so that we can trust each other," he said.
Interestingly, many of the men in the battalion are Russians from eastern Ukraine who wear masks because they fear their relatives in rebel-controlled areas could be persecuted if their identities are revealed.
Phantom said he was such a Russian but that he was opposed to Moscow supporting "terrorists" in his homeland: "I volunteered and all I demanded was a gun and the possibility to defend my country."
Asked about his Nazi sympathies, he said: "After the First World World War, Germany was a total mess and Hitler rebuilt it: he built houses and roads, put in telephone lines, and created jobs. I respect that." Homosexuality is a mental illness and the scale of the Holocaust "is a big question", he added.



Stepan, 23, another fighter, said that if leaders of the pro-Russian separatists were captured they should be executed after a military tribunal.
Such notions seem a far cry from the spirit of the "Maidan" protests that peaked in Kiev in February with the ousting of Mr Yanukovich, who had refused to sign a trade agreement with the European Union. Young liberals led the way but the uprising, which ended with the president fleeing to Russia, provoked a huge patriotic awakening that sucked in hardline groups.
Azov's extremist profile and slick English–language pages on social media have even attracted foreign fighters. Mr Biletsky says he has men from Ireland, Italy, Greece and Scandinavia. At the base in Urzuf, Mikael Skillt, 37, a former sniper with the Swedish Army and National Guard, leads and trains a reconnaissance unit.
"When I saw the Maidan protests I recognised bravery and suffering," he told the Telegraph. "A warrior soul was awakened. But you can only do so much, going against the enemy with sticks and stones. I had some experience and I though maybe I could help."
Mr Skillt says he called himself a National Socialist as a young man and more recently he was active in the extreme right wing Party of the Swedes. "Now I'm fighting for the freedom of Ukraine against Putin's imperialist front," he said.
His unit is improving fast under his tutelage. "What they lack in experience, they make up in balls," he said. Once he is done with Azov –where he claimed he receives a nominal GBP100 a month – Mr Skillt plans to go to Syria to fight for President Bashar al-Assad as a hired gun earning "very good money".
Such characters under Kiev's control play straight into the hands of Russian and separatist propaganda that portrays Ukraine's government as a "fascist junta" manipulated by the West.
"These battalions are made up of mercenaries, not volunteers," said Sergei Kavtaradze, a representative of the rebel authorities in Donetsk. "They are real fascists who kill and rape civilians." Mr Kavtaradze could not cite evidence of his claim and the battalion says it has not harmed a single civilian.
Ukraine's government is unrepentant about using the neo-Nazis. "The most important thing is their spirit and their desire to make Ukraine free and independent," said Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Arsen Avakov, the interior minister. "A person who takes a weapon in his hands and goes to defend his motherland is a hero. And his political views are his own affair."
Mark Galeotti, an expert on Russian and Ukrainian security affairs at New York University, fears battalions like Azov are becoming "magnets to attract violent fringe elements from across Ukraine and beyond". "The danger is that this is part of the building up of a toxic legacy for when the war ends," he said.
Extremist paramilitary groups who have built up "their own little Freikorps" and who are fundamentally opposed to finding consensus may demand a part in public life as victors in the conflict, Mr Galeotti added. "And what do you do when the war is over and you get veterans from Azov swaggering down your high street, and in your own lives?"

[Meho Krljic]

A Stiven Sigal svirao na Krimu na "koncertu podrške separatistima" 


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/seagal-plays-gig-pro-russian-separatists-071642212.html#h6Q70AW

Hollywood actor and musician Steven Seagal has performed at a concert in the breakaway region of Crimea, appearing on a stage adorned with the flag of pro-Russian separatists fighting in Ukraine.
Seagal, who knows Russian President Vladimir Putin, and his blues band played at a bikers' show held in the city of Sevastopol, home to Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
The martial artist has come under fire for supporting Russia's annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine in March, a view which saw him removed from the line-up at an Estonian blues festival earlier this summer.
At the corner of the stage hung the black, blue and red flag of the Donetsk People's Republic (DNR), declared independent by separatist pro-Russian rebels fighting to break away from Ukraine.
Fans waved Russian and DNR flags as Seagal sang and played his guitar.
The news agency RIA Novosti reported that Seagal was then handed a shirt with Mr Putin's face on it, which he held aloft as he thanked the crowd.
The star is reported to have said he travelled to the region because music unites people.
In a March interview with a Russian newspaper, Seagal was quoted as saying that Mr Putin's desire to protect Russians in Crimea was completely reasonable.
Crimea's largely Russian-speaking residents voted in March to become part of Russia in a hastily organised referendum held as Russian troops patrolled the Black Sea peninsula.
Seagal said in the newspaper interview he considers Mr Putin, with whom he has promoted martial arts in Russia, a friend and would like to consider him a brother.
Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov last year told reporters that the Russian president and Seagal have been friends "for a long time" and regularly meet.
Seagal is not the only celebrity to have struck up an unusual relationship with a political figure.
French actor Gerard Depardieu was personally welcomed to Russia by Mr Putin when he abandoned his native France in order to avoid higher taxes.
Former basketball player Dennis Rodman has travelled to North Korea a number of times to meet his "friend" Kim Jong-un.
And other celebrities have come to regret performing for high-profile political leaders.
In 2007 Nelly Furtado sang for Libyan dictator Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's family in Italy. When violence broke out in the country following 2011's Arab Spring, she reportedly donated the $1m she earned for the performance to charity.
Beyonce also performed for the Libyan leader at a New Year's Eve party in 2009.
Celebrities including singer Seal, violinist Vanessa Mae, double Oscar-winning actress Hilary Swank and actor Jean Claude van Damme caused controversy by performing at a birthday party for Chechen president Ramzan Kadyrov in 2011.
Mr Kadyrov has faced criticism over his human rights record. Ms Swank later said she regretted her appearance.
Earlier that year, footballers including ex-Liverpool stars Robbie Fowler and Steve McManaman took part in a football match with Mr Kadyrov. Half-time entertainment was provided by British singer Craig David.

[Meho Krljic]

Rusi šalju humanitarni konvoj u istočnu Ukrajinu, zapad veli da je ovo uvod u vojnu invaziju:


Russia sending aid convoy to Ukraine despite Western warnings of 'invasion pretext'

By Adrian Croft and Sergei Karpukhin
BRUSSELS/DONETSK (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Monday Russia is sending an aid convoy to eastern Ukraine despite urgent Western warnings against using humanitarian help as a pretext for an invasion.
With Ukraine reporting Russia has massed 45,000 troops on its border, NATO said there was a "high probability" that Moscow could intervene militarily in the country's east, where Kiev's forces are closing in on pro-Russian separatists.
Western countries believe that Putin - who has whipped up the passions of Russians with a nationalist campaign in state-controlled media since annexing Crimea from Ukraine in March - could now send his forces into the east to head off a humiliating rebel defeat.
Thousands of people are believed to be short of water, electricity and medical aid due to the fighting, but U.S. President Barack Obama told his Ukrainian counterpart that any Russian intervention without Kiev's consent would be unacceptable and violate international law.
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso delivered a blunter message directly to Putin in a telephone call on Monday. "President Barroso warned against any unilateral military actions in Ukraine, under any pretext, including humanitarian," the Commission said in a statement.
The Kremlin, in its own account of the conversation, made clear that Moscow would indeed send help to largely Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine.
"It was noted that the Russian side, in collaboration with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending an aid convoy to Ukraine," the Kremlin statement said, without revealing when the convoy was going.
In a cautious response, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said it had submitted a document to Russian and Ukrainian officials on delivering aid. However, the independent agency stressed in a statement that it needed agreement from all parties as well as security guarantees to carry out the operation, as it does not use armed escorts.
"The practical details of this operation need to be clarified before this initiative can move forward," said Laurent Corbaz, head of ICRC operations for Europe and Central Asia.
According to U.N. agencies, more than 1,100 people have been killed including government forces, rebels and civilians in the four months since the separatists seized territory in the east and Kiev launched its crackdown.
UKRAINE SEEKS INTERNATIONAL EFFORT
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko came out in support of an aid mission but made clear it had to be an international effort under the aegis of the ICRC, involving the European Union as well as Russia.
He won Obama's backing when they spoke by phone on Monday.
The White House quoted Obama as saying that any Russian intervention without the Ukrainian government's agreement would be "unacceptable" and a violation of international law.
Earlier, Kiev said it was in the "final stages" of recapturing the eastern city of Donetsk - the main base of the separatist rebels - in a battle that could mark a turning point in a conflict that has caused the biggest confrontation between Russia and the West since the Cold War.
An industrial metropolis with a pre-war population of nearly 1 million, Donetsk rocked to the crash of shells and gunfire over the weekend, and heavy guns boomed through the night into Monday from the outskirts of the city.
NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said there was no sign Russia had withdrawn the troops it had massed at the Ukrainian frontier. Asked in a Reuters interview how he rated the chances of Russian military intervention, Rasmussen said: "There is a high probability."
"We see the Russians developing the narrative and the pretext for such an operation under the guise of a humanitarian operation, and we see a military build-up that could be used to conduct such illegal military operations in Ukraine," he said.
SAVING THE REBELS
NATO fears Moscow would use any aid mission as a cover to save the rebels, who are fighting for control of two provinces under the banner of "New Russia", a term Putin has used for southern and eastern Ukraine, where mostly Russian is spoken.
Ukraine appears to be pressing ahead with its offensive, undeterred by the presence of what NATO says are about 20,000 Russian troops massed on the nearby border for a potential ground invasion.
Kiev put the size of the Russian forces much higher. "As of 11 o'clock today, about 45,000 troops of the armed forces and internal forces of the Russian Federation are concentrated in border areas," Ukrainian military spokesman Andriy Lysenko told a briefing.
He said they were supported by 160 tanks, 1,360 armoured vehicles, 390 artillery systems, up to 150 Grad missile launchers, 192 fighter aircraft and 137 attack helicopters.
Lysenko said Ukrainian government forces had finally succeeded in cutting off the road between Donetsk and Luhansk, the other main rebel-held city, which is closer to the Russian border. Kiev and its Western allies say the route has been the principal means of supplying the rebels in Donetsk with weapons.
Fighting in recent weeks has focused on the route, near where Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed in July, killing all 298 people on board. Washington says the plane was almost certainly shot down accidentally by rebels using an advanced Russian missile. Moscow denies this.
"The forces of the anti-terrorist operation are preparing for the final stage of liberating Donetsk," Lysenko told Reuters. "Our forces have completely cut Donetsk off from Luhansk. We are working to liberate both cities, but it's better to liberate Donetsk first - it is more important."
The leader of the rebels in Donetsk, Alexander Zakharchenko, a local man who took over the leadership from a Russian citizen last week, said the fighters were considering mounting a counter-attack against government forces in the next two or three days.
And a volunteer government fighter suggested claims that government forces were about to take Donetsk were inflated. "Taking the town is an extremely complicated business and painful ... It will take, at the very least, several weeks," said Andriy Beletsky, commander of the so-called Azov battalion.
Municipal authorities in Donetsk said artillery shelling knocked out power stations in the city and hit a high-security prison, killing one inmate and allowing more than 100 criminals to escape.
(Additional reporting by Richard Balmforth, Pavel Polityuk and Natalia Zinets in Kiev, Alexei Anishchuk and Lina Kushch in Donetsk, Katya Golubkova in Moscow, Stephanie Nebehay in Geneva, Mark Felsenthal in Washington and Barbara Lewis in Brussels; Writing by Richard Balmforth, Peter Graff and David Stamp; Editing by Peter Millership and Will Waterman)

[scallop]

Da nije žalosno bilo bi smešno.

[SIMERIJANAC]

11.08.2014. Фонд Стратешке Културе
Владислав Шуригин

Јулска офанзива Кијева на Новорусију није довела до преокрета ситуације и пораза снага самоодбране, и стављање Доњецка под контролу Кијева. Упркос чињеници да је предузет напор на ангажману практично свих постојећих снага и резерве, кијевске казнене експедиције практично су успеле да преузму контролу само над 6 рејона Донбаса. Притом, нису успели остварити основни циљ – окружити Доњецк и изоловати га од Русије, стављајући границу под контролу.

Кијеву је неопходна победа пре захлађења

За две недеље непрекидних борби, кијевски кажњени одреди претрпели су тешке губитке. У "јужном лонцу" потпуно су разбијене две мобилне бригаде Оружаних Снага Украјине (ОСУ) и два батаљона Националне гарде, а саме групације су разбијене и ликвидиране. На осталим правцима непријатељ је одбачен уз значајне губитке у живој сили и техници. За свега две недеље Кијев је претрпео губитке од више од 1 200 убијених војника и официра, то јест, губици су износили више од 80 људи за 24 часа! Број рањених се рачуна на више од 3 000 људи. Уништено је између 30 и 40 тенкова и више од 200 јединица оклопне технике и аутомобила.

Као резултат тога, последњих дана јула команда је била принуђеан да заустави офанзиву и чак да повуче војску са најопаснијих позиција. Ради се у ствари о војном поразу Кијева. Већ трећем, од почетка такозване "антитерористичке операције" (АТО). Укупни губици Кијева за три месеца рата против Донбаса већ износе више од две и по хиљаде убијених војника и официра. У борбама је изгубљено више од 120 тенкова и око хиљаду оклопних транспортера, самоходки и друге технике на точковима. На небу изнад Донбаса срушено је 16 авиона и хеликоптера ОСУ.

Очигледно да се продором у дубину Донбаса, Кијев букавално купа у крви. Упркос свему, политичко руководство Украјине и даље сматра да може насилним путем решити "проблем Донбаса" и наставља са увећавањем војних групација. Рат на југо-истоку данас је постао главно занимање кијевске власти и интересима рата данас је потчињено све. Председник Порошенко је свестан да перспектива одуговлачења рата може бити фатална за његову администрацију и он од својих генерала захтева да по сваку цену заврше рат пре хладноћа, јер армија једноставно није спремна за вођење борбених дејстава зими. На складиштима нема ни нормалне зимске униформе, ни прилагођене за зиму теренске инфрастурктуре, шатора логора, позадинске опреме, теренских радионица за ремонт у зимским условима. И отезање рата до појаве хладноћа може постати катастрофално за ОСУ.

Акценат на ударну песницу

Због тога ће Генералштаб у Кијеву почети убрзану припрему за нову офанзиву на Донбас, узимајући у обзир искуства претходних месеци. Ако је до сада кијевска команда наступала практично "тетурајући", придодајући резерве које су пристизале и убацујући их у бој практично "са точкова" (што је озбиљно умањивало њихову одбрамбену способност), сада треба очекивати да су "осведочени" генерали извукли поуку и да ће за следећу офанзиву бити бачене раније већ припремљене оперативне групације нивоа корпуса, чије убрзано формирање тече у рејону спровођења "АТО". Сада је у току попуњавање техником и кадровима. Техника се узима са складишта и база конзервирања и после ремонта на заводима предаје се војсци, а кадровски састав се попуњава путем ванредне мобилизације.

Према замисли украјинских генерала, свака таква групација треба да обухвата од три до пет бригада ОСУ у својству главне ударне силе; поједини батаљони "Националне гарде" – до 5 јединица – у својству "лаке пешадије" и јединице унутрашње војске за "чишћење" освојених територија, као и одреде специјалне намене и позадинске јединице. У састав групације ће ући до 100 тенкова и до 150 артиљеријских оруђа и ракетно-зенитних комплекса. Укупан број такве групације може износити 20 хиљада војника и официра.

Кијеву је за успешну офанзиву на Донбас потребно формирати не мање од три такве групације. А укупан број кијевске казнене армије крајем августа може износити већ више од 80 хиљада војника, официра националне гарде и "добровољаца" различитих јединица "приватних" војних компанија. Није неосновано очекивати да ће нови масовни наступ уследити средином августа, када ће углавном бити завршено формирање нових јединица. Но, то апсолутно не значи да ће до тада на фронту владати затишје. Кијевска команда ће локалним ударима бушити одбрану снага самоодбране и покушати да реши тактичке задатке по питању побољшања својих позиција и успостављања контроле над кључним тачкама.

Нејасни наговешатаји кијевских политичара да ће нова офанзива представљати изненађење за ополченце и да ће бити "ефикасна", значи пре свега да ће тактика раздвојених по фронту батаљона тактичке групације (на шта су се сводили претходни наступи) бити замењена концентрацијом снага на кључним правцима и моћним раздвајајућим ударима, стављајући акценат на ватрену моћ и надмоћ у тешкој техници. "Ноу-хау" – супервисока концентрација ватрене моћи артиљерије и тенкова која треба да гарантује гушење огњишта супротстављања и да "расчисти" пут за "тешку" пешадију која чисти "одрађену" територију.

Очигледна слабост овакве стратегије јесте што у њој нема суштински ничег новог. Све се поново своди на надмоћност у тешкој техници и артиљерији. И задаци остају исти – одсецање Донбаса од границе са Русијом и пресецање његове територије на два дела, уз окружење Доњецка.

"Смрт махновштини!"

Данас је Донбас спреман да се томе супротстави, али то тражи мобилизацију сила и средстава снага самоодбране и прилагођавање војне структуре Новорусије. Пре свега, наравно, мора да се уклони "махновштина", када је велика бројност снага самоодбране била "разбацана" на десетине одреда различитих теренских командира, који практично нису узајамно између себе координирали. Трпети даље такву ситуацију – значи ризиковати да се све изгуби! Једино потпуна концентрација сила и средстава у рукама јединствене команде – може донети успех.

Поред тога, као што сам раније већ писао, неопходно је формирање "тешких" мобилних формација (нивоа бригаде), које имају моћно артиљеријско и противтенковско наоружање и које би се могле премештати унутар периметра одбране и наносити контраударе на најкритичнијим местима. Села Донбаса као и путна мрежа, омогућавају да се успешно и на време врше маневри резерве и да се концентришу на најопасније правце. Потребан је озбиљан рад на повећању ефикасности артиљерије, ради чега је неопходно пребацивање у републику специјалиста-добровољаца, ради формирања савременог система за уништење противника ватром.

Несумњиво да у време затишја кључни моменат представља обавештајно-диверзантски рад јединица на уништењу комуникација непријатеља.

Спаљена земља

Но, поред војне опасности, над Донбасом се надвила квалитетно нова претња. Практично, живот у англомерацији Доњецк-Куганск је парализован. Регион се налази у стању хуманитарне катастрофе. Системи водоводног снабдевања су или уништени или оштећени, струје нема у великом делу села и градова, гасоводи су такође делимично оштећени, достава намирница практично је прекинута, нема лекова. Гранатирање и бомбардовање свакодневно односе животе десетина мирних грађана.

Нормалан живот људи овде није могућ. Регион се претворио у "мини-Југославију" са почетка 90-их година прошлог века. Као последица тога – муњевито се мења расположење људи. Становништво измрцварено ратом већ очајно жели само једно – да се сав тај ужас већ једном оконча.

Полагано али непрекидно "сужавање" територије Новорусије од стране украјинског казненог корпуса (а данас се њена територија смањила са 36 региона и 42 града са становништвом од 6 милиона људи) постаје све више деморалишући фактор. И све се јасније поставља питање: колико се још може одржати англомерација територије под контролом ДНР и ЛНР и шта ће бити потом?

Какве су последице губитка Донбаса по Русију?

Оне су поражавајуће. Изгубивши Новорусију, Русија би претрпела крупан геополитички пораз.

Као прво, она ће читавом свету демонстрирати своју неспособност да се ефикасно супротстави удруженом притиску САД и НАТО пакта, самим тим и своју незрелост, завршно се сместивши у разред "регионалних" држава.

Као друго, та победа ће у Украјини завршно учврстити постојећи режим и дати му одрешене руке у даљим притисцима на Русију и почетак свеобухватне кампање за "повратак" Крима. Очигледно да чак и кад би "дала" Донбас, Русија више не би могла изаћи испод режима санкција. Оне ће се аутоматски продужити до повратка Крима, а у зависности од развоја ситуације, могу се само појачавати.

Као треће, у самој Русији ће губитак Донбаса неминовно изазвати "ефекат Милошевића" – огромно разочарење друштва у неспособност вишег политичког руководства земље да оцени последице донетих одлука и недоследност у њиховом спровођењу. Руско друштво је спремно да поднесе тешкоће притиска на Русију и да се сједини око председника у условима ефикасне подршке Донбасу – али апсолутно неће прихватити његову предају, логично постављајући питање – због чега је било потребно супротстављање Кијеву и САД и трпети штету, да би се на крају све предало?

Већ је свакоме апсолутно јасно, да независно од тога хоће ли Русија подржати Донбас или ће одустати од Донбаса, од стране Американаца и њених савезника њој ће бити нанета огромна економска штета. Ма колико економисти објашњавали "корисност" санкција за руску привреду у будућности, у стварности ће то значити десетине и стотине милијарди долара штете нашој привреди.

Уколико у Кремљу нису свесни свх тих последица или сматрају да их могу минимизирати, сваливши кривицу на неколико функционера извршне власти високог ранга, онда је то њихова груба грешка. Ефекат губитка Донбаса ће обезвредити све претходно добијене политичке дивиденде.

Због тога је крајњи тренутак да Кремљ коначно схвати сву драматичност садашњег тренутка. Практично, сада је ситуација у крајњој фази напетости. После њега долази прелом – или са фаталним последицама по Новорусију или са фаталним поразом Кијева, који ће на крају постати свестан ситуације да насилно није способан решити проблем југо-истока.

Потребне су екстрерне мере

Данас главни проблем не представља способност команданта Игора Стрелкова да ефикасно заштити градове Донбаса, није ни у томе колико Александар Бородај одговара месту премијера. Најважнији проблем лежи у томе да се више не може дилетантски бавити Новорусијом. Ако је пре три месеца, не учврстивши се како треба, нова кијевска власт била очигледно слаба у војном питању, растрзана и није имала јасну представу о формулисаном одговору на претњу отцепења Донбаса и Луганштине, што је омогућавало да се релативно ограниченим снагама (не удубљујући се превише у унутарукрајинске сукобе) подржава и развија устанак на југо-истоку, то се већ почетком јуна ситуација почела оштро мењати.

Тада се у кризу енергично укључио нови фактор – САД. Украјина је добила огромну финансијску и организациону подршку, а што је најважније – моћни морално-политички фактор "савезника" који је практично ставио Украјину под своју заштиту. Кијевско руководство је могло да се у потпуности усредсреди на вођење борбених дејстава и мобилизиравши све постојеће ресурсе и све добијене кредите, за следећа два месеца развије казнени корпус са више од 50 хиљада војника. И премда је његова борбена спосбност била и остаје веома ниска, огромна предност у тешкој техници, артиљерији и авијацији ће му дозволити да реши постављене задатке.

Очигледно, украјинска команда је напипала слабе карике у ланцу одбране Новорусије – одсуство јединства снага и средстава јединица самоодбране и практично "сељачку" психологију и тактику "теренских командира", при којој је иницијатива потпуно препуштена противничкој страни. Већ током прошле офанзиве кијевска команда је покушавала да искористи ту слабост, обилазећи чворове супротстављања и пресецајући комуникације, самим тим лишавајући их ресурса за ефикасну одбрану.

Истовремено са тим, САД и њени савезници су покренуле свеобухватни и координирани напад на Русију. Под плаштом санкција, против нас је практично покренут економски рат који се у перспективи може завршити економском блокадом. У таквим околностима "камерно" остварење пројекта на заштити Новорусије постаје немогуће у будућности. Данас је неопходна КВАЛИТЕТНА свеобухватна промена у пружању помоћи ДНР и ЛНР. Разједињена дејства различитих структура, када су "униформисана лица" заузета ратом, "економисти" – тражењем новца за "крпљење рупа", а "социјалци" решавању питања избеглица, све без узајамне координације – неопходно их је ујединити у јединствени штаб за подршку Новорусији, са најширим правима и овлаштењима.

На копну – Русија

Неопходно је на крају крајева, да сами себи признамо да се налазимо у ратном стању. Али не са Украјином која у њеној садашњој ипостаси не би постојала ни пола године, него са најмоћнијом државом на планети – САД, које стоје иза њених леђа. Циљ овог рата је – потпуна деструкција савремене Русије и потпуно чишћење њеног политичког руководства.

Американци покушавају да исправе своју грешку из 1991. године – очување Русије као јединствене земље. Сада говоримо само о деоби Русије на низ малих субјеката. Данас је борбено поприште – југо-исток Украјине, Донбас. За САД је изузетно важно да се пробије у зону виталних интереса Русије, да их подржи и ојача стратешког партнера Петра Порошенка и његову "здраворазумну" елиту која је заузела власт у Кијеву. И да са те одскочне даске почну са парањем Русије, користећи победу у рату као "неутронску бомбу" против руководства Кремља.

Најбољи одговор ће бити јасан и разумљиво дефинисан пројекат "Новорусије" као пројекат нове Украјине, слободне од браон прљвштине бандеровштине, нациста "правосека"[1], лопова олигарха. Украјине у којој ће се ујединити све најбоље, све што је повезано са историјском перспективом појма братске повезаности руског и украјинског народа.

Потребна је хитна широка хуманитарна помоћ, спасавање становништва Новорусије од глади и хуманитарне катастрофе. Неопходно је формирање плана обнове Донбаса и укључивања његове привреде у структуре јединственог економског пространства. И наравно, неопходна је најозбиљнија и енергична војна помоћ. Само велики војни пораз може натерати Кијев да схвати бесперспективност насилне варијанте, да седне за преговарачки сто и прекине рат.

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Sad je problem humanitarna pomoć? Kao da Rusi preko te granice ne mogu da pošalju svo oružje i ljudstvo koje zamisle.

[Meho Krljic]

Podanička zapadna štampa javlja:


Rebel forces unravel as Ukraine military cuts off key stronghold

Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine suffered dramatic setbacks Thursday as top military chiefs quit and Ukraine's forces pummelled their strongholds, cutting off a key rebel-held city from the Russian border.
Kiev's advance came as a massive Russian "humanitarian" convoy parked up close to the frontier, with doubts still swirling over whether the trucks would be allowed to cross.
The separatist leadership showed signs of unravelling following four months of fighting that have left more than 2,000 dead and many residents in the region without power or running water, and with dwindling food supplies.
The rebels said their main military chief, Igor Strelkov, had resigned while the rebel commander in the second-biggest insurgent stronghold of Lugansk, Valery Bolotov, told Russian television he was "temporarily" stepping down because of earlier injuries.
The announcements came after Ukraine's military said it had completely surrounded Lugansk, cutting all links to the border with Russia, which Kiev believes has been supplying the insurgents with weapons.
Intense shelling on Lugansk and the main insurgent bastion of Donetsk left more than 25 people dead, while Ukrainian forces reported nine troops dead and 18 injured over the past day.
While reiterating its support for Kiev, Washington urged its ally to exercise restraint and keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
- US urges restraint -
"We've stressed the importance of showing restraint to minimise casualties among the civilian... population," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters.
"We call on the Ukrainians to take every step to avoid the local population as they try to free the city from the separatists," Harf said.
The Russian foreign ministry on Thursday called for all sides to accept an "urgent" ceasefire, saying the situation in the east was "extremely serious".
Russia's convoy of nearly 300 white-tarpaulin-covered lorries meanwhile halted Thursday near the town of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, some 50 kilometres (30 miles) from eastern Ukraine, Russian media reported.
A local source told AFP the lorries could try to cross the border near the Ukrainian town of Izvaryne, but it was unclear when this might happen or whether Kiev would allow them to pass.
Russian media said the convoy, which left the Moscow region on Tuesday, carried more than 1,800 tonnes of supplies including medical equipment, baby food, sleeping bags and electric generators.
Ukraine has repeatedly said it will not allow Russian lorries onto its territory and that any aid would have to be unloaded at the border under the supervision of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).
President Petro Poroshenko's office on Wednesday suggested the aid could be allowed in, but only if it was inspected by Ukrainian border guards and international monitors.
Fears have mounted that the aid mission could escalate a conflict that has already brought tensions between Russia and the West to a post-Cold War high.
Ukraine and the West have warned that Moscow's convoy could be a "Trojan horse" bringing military help to pro-Russian insurgents, who have been losing ground to government troops in the east.
The ICRC -- which denies there was ever any agreement with Moscow on a convoy -- said Thursday that it had made contact with the leader of the Russian operation, but made no other comment.
Ukraine dispatched its own aid convoys to the industrial east as it tried to race Moscow to hand out much-needed assistance to people in the blighted region.
Kiev said it was sending 75 lorries with 800 tonnes of aid to the Lugansk region.
- Heavy shelling in Donetsk -
The need for aid was clear, as heavy shelling smashed into the centre of Donetsk, once a bustling city of one million.
Health authorities said 74 civilians were killed and 116 wounded over the past three days.
Three people were killed on Thursday, local authorities said, while heavy fire in Lugansk left another 22 dead, an official from the regional administration told AFP on condition of anonymity.
More than 2,000 people have died in the four-month conflict, the UN human rights agency said Wednesday, noting the death toll had doubled in just two weeks.
Some 285,000 people are also estimated to have fled their homes in the east.
The crisis has led to tit-for-tat sanctions between the West and Russia over Moscow's alleged support for the insurgency in eastern Ukraine.
On Thursday President Vladimir Putin said Russia should not let the West treat it "with disdain" but also should not "fence itself off from the outside world".

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Mnogo zgodno!


Prvo novinari Gardijana kao videli konvoj ruskih vojnih vozila kako ulazi u Ukrajinu. Posle Rasmunsen izjavio kao da su Rusi ušli u Ukrajinu, a na kraju, Porošenko izjavio kako je njegova artiljerija uništila taj vojni konvoj. 

[Meho Krljic]

Evo to sve raspoređeno u bulit pojnte:
Did Russia and Ukraine just start a war? What we know and don't know

On Friday, as a Russian "aid convoy" of 280 trucks neared the Ukrainian border, NATO said that a separate "incursion" of Russian military forces had crossed into Ukraine. The Russian forces are reportedly in eastern Ukrainian territory held by Russia-backed separatist rebels, according to NATO and Ukrainian government officials. Some reports suggest that there may be open fighting between Ukrainian military forces and the Russian incursion, but it's far from clear whether that's true or what precisely is happening on the ground.

Did Russia really invade Ukraine outright? Is this now an open war? Here is a running account of what we know and what we don't know.


What we know


Russia's 280-truck aid convoy parks in Russia. (ANDREY KRONBERG/AFP/Getty)

— Russia is sending a "humanitarian convoy" to Ukraine, but it seems pretty military. 280 Russian trucks, flanked by attack helicopters, have been moving toward the Ukrainian border. Russia says they're carrying humanitarian assistance for the people of east Ukraine. Ukraine fears it's a stealth invasion force. Russia opened up the trucks to journalists, and the BBC reported that they were mostly empty. The convoy earlier stopped at a Russian military base.

— Ukraine claims to have destroyed Russian vehicles Thursday night. In a phone call with British Prime Minister David Cameron, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko claimed Ukraine's military had fired on and destroyed a "significant" portion of "Russian military machines in Ukraine," allegedly with artillery.

— NATO says Russian troops just crossed into Ukraine. "Last night we saw a Russian incursion, a crossing of the Ukrainian border," NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said on Friday. However, this has been going on for some time. Bloomberg reports that these troops weren't part of the aid convoy.

— Russia is denying that any troops crossed. The Russian defense ministry denies both that any Russian vehicles crossed the border into Ukraine and that any were destroyed there. The official statement referred to the Ukrainian claims as "some kind of fantasy."



— Russia has been backing separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine for months. The pro-Russia rebels, who are in many cases Russian themselves, declared independence in cities like Donetsk and have been fighting Ukrainian government forces.

—The Ukrainian military is making a big push to re-take eastern Ukraine. After months of low-level fighting with the rebels, and after the rebels appeared to shoot down civilian airliner flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian military has been moving aggressively to expel them. That might help explain why Russia would escalate as well.

— Russia used a stealth invasion force to seize Crimea in March, by quietly sending unmarked special forces into the Ukrainian region. The Russian troops quickly seized the region, expelled Ukrainian forces, held a fraud-ridden referendum on seceding, and annexed Crimea. There are fears Moscow may attempt the same here.

— The UK is taking these allegations seriously. The UK Foreign Office's Chief Operating Officer, Matthew Rycroft, "summoned" (in his words) the Russian ambassador to the UK and "demanded [an] explanation of reports of Russian military in Ukraine without Ukrainian agreement."
  — The Ukrainian and Russian foreign ministers are meeting on Sunday, in Berlin with top diplomats from Germany and France. The meeting, set late on Friday, looks like it is probably a European-brokered attempt to deescalate the situation.

What we don't know



— Whether Russian tanks have crossed into Ukraine. If so, that would be a major escalation from the past practice of sending small numbers of unmarked troops, and a big step toward an overt war.

— Whether Ukraine actually fired on Russian vehicles. There is no independent confirmation of whether the incident Ukraine describes with Russian troops take place. If Ukraine did fire on and destroy Russian vehicles, as it claims, it's not clear whether those vehicles were driven by formal Russian soldiers or pro-Russian separatists.

— Whether the Russian aid convoy is part of a secret invasion force. That's what Ukrainian officials say, and the fact that the trucks appear to be empty is highly suspect, but it's still not clear whether or not the 280-truck convoy is part of some secret plot or just there deliver humanitarian supplies, as Moscow says.

— Whether Ukraine fired on parts of the convoy. Assuming Ukraine actually destroyed Russian vehicles, we still don't know what kind, where they were from, or what they were there for. NBC News reports that, from Ukrainian descriptions, "It is unclear whether the fighting is focused on an armored vehicle convoy or the aid shipments."

— What Russia does next. Again assuming the incident Ukraine described happened, it's totally unclear how Russia would respond. Will they escalate to full warfare with Ukraine? That remains to be seen.

— Could Russia try to annex eastern Ukraine? That's what they did in Crimea, and Russia has been backing separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine for months. But that would be a big step, and even riskier than the Crimea annexation.

— How will the US and Europe respond if Russia really invades? American and European leaders have ratcheted up economic sanctions on Russia to deter it from invading, but have been hesitant to directly arm or supply Ukraine, for fear of getting sucked into a war. It's not clear how they'll respond if open war breaks out between Russia and Ukraine.

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Jel' to nešto različito od onoga šta sam ja napisao?

[Meho Krljic]

Metodičnije je izloženo pa će i manje upućeni steći sliku. 

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Meto dičnije? Jer je na engleskom? Kao naši ljudi nisu u stanju da shvate kako deluje tehnologija podmetanja ako ja to napišem? "Neki" kao videli, "važan" političar kao izjavio, "budalčina" kao artiljerijski uništila, Merkel upozorila "nemo'" to da radite i sad Moskva mora ozbiljno da demantuje.

[Meho Krljic]

Ne bi se ti leba najeo kad bi vodio sopstvenu njuz agenciju, ja da ti kažem. 

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Sigurno. Nema toga ko bi mogao meni da plati da podvaljujem. Dok hiljade mačaka strada po Istočnoj Ukrajini. Šta kaže Crveni Krst što se cinculira humanitarna pomoć na granici?

[Meho Krljic]

Pa, znaš da ne radim u Crvenom krstu već više od godinu i po dana. Al kad već pitaš:
Ukraine: Preparations under way for large-scale aid delivery

Geneva (ICRC) – The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is deploying additional staff to Russia and Ukraine and scaling up logistics arrangements in readiness for the delivery of aid to conflict-hit eastern Ukraine.

The Ukrainian and Russian authorities have each separately dispatched a convoy carrying aid for eastern Ukraine, and have asked the ICRC to facilitate delivery. The two countries are still finalizing such practical details as inspection and clearance procedures for the Russian convoy and confirmation of the strictly humanitarian nature of the cargo.
"As and when agreement is reached, we plan to deliver this humanitarian aid to people affected by conflict in eastern Ukraine, health facilities and other welfare organizations," said Laurent Corbaz, ICRC head of operations for Europe and Central Asia, speaking from Kiev. "People are struggling to cope with limited access to basic services such as water and electricity, so speed is of the essence."
A five-person ICRC team is already present in the vicinity of the Russian convoy, which is currently parked in the Rostov region, and 15 more staff are on the way. Another ICRC team has deployed to Starobilsk, where a Ukrainian aid convoy of around 50 trucks arrived this morning.
"We still need assurances from all parties to the conflict that our staff will be allowed to perform their tasks safely and with due respect for our humanitarian principles. Given the complex logistics and security challenges involved, this aid operation will take some time and we call on the authorities of both countries to do all they can to resolve outstanding issues quickly," added Mr Corbaz.
Since the onset of the crisis in Ukraine, the ICRC and the Ukrainian Red Cross have been distributing relief items and supermarket vouchers to displaced people in need. They have also provided medical supplies to health facilities in the Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv regions, mainly to improve treatment for the wounded. The ICRC is conducting humanitarian visits to places of detention run by the Ukrainian authorities on an ad hoc basis, and hopes to enter into a more formal agreement with the government. The ICRC is also seeking to visit people held by the armed opposition.
The ICRC continues to expand its humanitarian response to the situation in eastern Ukraine and has received financial support from Finland, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States, and the Red Cross Societies of Canada and Japan.
For further information, please contact:
Andre Loersch, ICRC Kiev, tel: +380 671 182 481
Victoria Zotikova, ICRC Moscow, tel: +7 495 626 5426 or +7 903 545 3534
Anastasia Isyuk, ICRC Geneva, tel: +41 22 730 30 23 or +41 79 251 93 02
Ewan Watson, ICRC Geneva, tel: +41 22 730 33 45 or +41 79 244 64 70

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Će crknu dotle. Da treba vode da im donesu umrli bi od žeđi do sada.

[Meho Krljic]

Pa, dobro, ne možeš da uletiš u ratnu zonu dok ne dobiješ nekakvu potvrdu da nećeš biti pogođen makar greškom, ili zaustavljen i opljačkan itd. To je standardna priča.

Takođe, taj ruski konvoj sa humanitarnom pomoći, bilo bi takođe standardno da distribucija ide preko ICRC-a i lokalnog CK-a jer nije uobičajena praksa da vojni konvoji dele humanitarnu pomoć, iz valjda očiglednih razloga. Drago mi je da Rusi, koliko vidim, pristaju na ovo, makar za sada.

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Bre, na sve su pristali i pre nego što su pošli. I sad, znamo da je granica porozna i da mogu da prenesu šta god im padne na pamet, stalno ih optužuju da to rade, a onda ispadne da je humanitarna pomoć opasnija. Ovo sada je MALTRETIRANJE i to treba jasno reći.

[Meho Krljic]

Pa, takva je situacija, kijevske vlasti se trude da pokežu da i dalje drže nekakvu kontrolu nad svojim granicama, iako znamo kako to izgleda, Rusi se trude da pokažu da njih samo zanima humanitarna pomoć i nikako ne žele da se vojno umešaju u konflikt, a i to znamo kako je, zapad želi da pokaže nešto treće itd. Rat je to, stvari tu nikad ne idu lako i jasno.

[Meho Krljic]

Podanička zapadna štampa... er... izveštava relativno objektivno o stradanju istočnoukrajinskog stanovništva:



Dozens die in Ukraine in street battles, Donetsk shelling

By Richard Balmforth and Thomas Grove
KIEV/DONETSK Ukraine (Reuters) - Heavy shelling hit residential neighbourhoods in Ukraine's rebel stronghold of Donetsk and government forces fought street battles in other towns on Wednesday as they sought to crush a four-month-old separatist rebellion.
The forces of the Western-backed Kiev government are steadily gaining the upper hand over the separatists in Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine and are tightening the noose around the main rebel bastions of Donetsk and Luhansk.
Reuters reporters in Donetsk said mortar bombs had struck Chelyuskintsev Street in the north of the city, a few km (miles) from the frontline of the conflict, shattering the windows of several five-storey apartment buildings and shearing off the branches of trees and downing power lines.
The attack left large craters in the street and a metre-wide hole in the first floor of one of the apartment buildings.
"The Ukrainian army or whoever they are – they're bombing us again. I've lived in the apartment building my entire life and now they want to take everything I have. There is nothing left to lose here in this city," said Nina, 52.
The Donetsk city administration, controlled by the separatists, said nine residents had been killed in shelling on Wednesday. The Ukrainian government denies that its forces are targeting civilian areas.
Another nine people, pro-Ukrainian volunteer fighters supporting Kiev's forces, were killed overnight in separate clashes near Donetsk, Ukrainian officials said.
The government in Kiev and its allies have accused Moscow of orchestrating the separatist rebellion and equipping the rebels with tanks, missiles and other heavy weaponry.
Moscow denies this and accuses Kiev of waging a war against its own people and shelling civilians.
The conflict has plunged relations between Russia and the West to their worst level since the end of the Cold War in 1991.
The United Nations puts the death toll in the conflict at 2,086, including civilians and combatants. That figure has nearly doubled since late July, when Ukrainian forces stepped up their offensive and the fighting spread to major urban areas.
"DUST AND SMOKE"
Another Donetsk resident, Lidia, recounted how shelling had hit the shop where she works.
"I hid behind the counter and closed my eyes. When I opened them everything was dark, full of dust and smoke," she said.
"How can we live like this being bombed by the leaders of our own country?"
Six military trucks rumbled past the wreckage of the house, including one equipped with an anti-tank machine gun and a mobile Grad rocket system. Rebels, wearing green camouflage and sunglasses, looked over the wreckage as they passed.
"They'll pay for this," one rebel said, as rebel convoys sped through parts of the city, running red lights.
Elsewhere in the region, Ukrainian forces fought street battles with rebels in the town of Ilovaisk overnight into Wednesday, Interior Ministry official Anton Gerashchenko said.
The nine Ukrainian volunteer fighters were killed in those clashes.
"The enemy can come up to you from wherever he wants and shoot from an attic, a basement or from a children's nursery," Gerashchenko said.
Separately, health authorities said 34 civilians had been killed as a result of fighting in the 24 hours up to noon Wednesday in the wider Donetsk region.
Authorities in Luhansk, the other big separatist stronghold, also reported artillery fire and heavy automatic fire on Wednesday as government forces kept up their assault on rebel positions there.
Luhansk has been largely cut off for weeks and is without water and regular supplies of electricity which have hit mobile and landline phone connections.
Only vital foodstuffs are on sale while long queues form for bread being distributed from vans.
"The humanitarian crisis is critical. Since there's no electricity, people are now cooking meals outside in their yards on open fires," Oleksander Sabenko, a municipal official, told the Ukrainian news channel 112.ua.
As well as worsening conditions for people on the ground, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said the fighting was draining the potential of the economy by the day, with attacks damaging mines, power stations, rail lines and bridges.
"Russia is aware that rebuilding the Donbass (the industrial east) will cost not millions but billions of hryvnia," he said. [ID:nL5N0QQ2A3]
(This story corrects paragraph 16 to rebel instead of government convoys)
(Writing by Dmitry Zhdannikov and Richard Balmforth; Editing by Gareth Jones)

A mangupi u Rusiji:



Ukraine flag unfurled on top of Moscow skyscraper

A Ukrainian flag was unfurled on the top of a Moscow skyscraper within sight of the Kremlin on Wednesday, officials said, as fighting in eastern Ukraine has frayed bilateral ties.
The Soviet star crowning the Stalin-era skyscraper, located just a kilometre (half a mile) from the Kremlin, was also painted in the yellow and blue colours of the national flag.
"The flag was attached by unidentified criminals to the top of the Kotelnicheskaya Embankment skyscraper," a spokesman for the Russian emergencies ministry, Roman Kilkeyev, told AFP.
Workers were brought in to remove the flag and give a new coat of gold-coloured paint to the star atop the 176-metre (577-foot) high building.
Tensions between Moscow and Kiev have soared since Viktor Yanukovich was chased from power in Ukraine and replaced with a pro-Western government in February.
Moscow annexed Crimea from Ukraine in March, and a pro-Russian rebellion broke out in the east of the country that has led to some 2,200 deaths since April.

[Meho Krljic]

Naravno:
Putin is winning the new cold war: Dicker

The situation in Ukraine sent stocks lower earlier this morning as Russia ordered a convoy of aid trucks to cross the border into eastern Ukraine, apparently without Ukraine's permission. NATO condemned the border crossing, claiming it would "only deepen the crisis in the region."

While the actions and rhetoric heat up, don't be surprised if ultimately this battle isn't fought with guns and airstrikes. The next cold war is here but it's not about weapons says Dan Dicker, President of MercBlock. "This latest cold war that I see coming is very much based upon the control of energy resources, particularly in Russia which is by far the largest energy producer in Asia, as well as the United States which is becoming the largest energy producer here in the west."

It may seem counterintuitive given the way Putin's Russia has locked horns with Ukraine with real weapons and not merely the threat of shutting down their pipelines (though of course he's done that too). Still, Dicker believes the long game is about no less than bringing many of the nations that once made up the Soviet Union back into Russia's favor and away from western influence.

Related: Putin clamps down on Big Macs

"I would think he's frightened to a certain degree of the expanse," Dicker says. "But then again there is this desire to extend as far west as you can particularly because he controls the natural gas supplies for virtually everyone in the old SSR as well as many on the nations just west of that. Latvia 100%, Poland 100%, Romania 100% - many of the other baltic states 100% of the gas resources."

So what is the west to do? Very little Dicker says calling sanctions " a very, very weak arrow in a very small quiver of things you can do."

This winter will be the true test where the rest of the world could see exactly what Putin may or may not be up to. "I think he's waiting for the first cold snap this winter to really put the stick down where it matters," Dicker posits, "and that is inside the economies of eastern Europe and also with regular people who he can literally freeze out of their homes."

Related: Why new Russia sanctions won't stop Putin

He notes that Putin has done it before (in 2006 and 2009) with a lot of success. In short, he's winning. "In the end it's very hard to maintain governments that are western leaning when somebody else controls pipeline into your economy," Dicker argues. "And I think over the long haul he'll be very successful at extending his reach across borders - not just Ukraine but [Poland] in particular must be frightened to death."

[SIMERIJANAC]

http://srbin.info/2014/08/20/ekskluzivno-dejan-beric-srpski-dobrovoljac-u-ukrajini/

[Anomander Rejk]

Pa zar ne bi onda trebalo hapsiti i članove Otpora, koji su švrljali po Ukrajini i Gruziji svojevremeno? Možda nisu sprovodili nasilne akcije, ali su učestvovali u nečemu što se može podvesti pod mnogo štošta, upereno protiv integriteta, mira i bezbednosti države gde su delovali.

[yalgr]

Ne treba hapsiti ni clanove Otpora ni ove pravoslavno-komunjarske placene ubice. Ljudi idu da zAarade novac koji im je uskracen zivotom u Srbiji. Ali  naravno treba pribeleziti njihove identitete i porodicna stabla. Da se ne ponovi "revolucionarna" 1918. Mozda i medju clanovima Otpora ima neki "revolucionar",tj. potencijalni antiglobalist,tj. komesarsko dete,tj. lazni demokrata sa Cuburske cesme? Ubedjen sam da ima 100% . Zato je potrebno znati gde im deca idu u skolu i jednima i drugima. Za svaki slucaj.

[Anomander Rejk]

Pre nekoliko meseci sam u sudu upoznao bivšeg otporaša. U životu nisam sreo većeg smarača, znači Jehovini svedoci, Kule stražare, Mladinska knjiga, Kirbi usisivači, to je mila majka za ovog bolesnika. Svaki dan me je davio sa vrbovanjem za svoju stvar, donosio mi nekakve ,,materijale'' na srpskom i engleskom, s tih njihovih ,,seminara'' po Soroš ispostavama, pričao o njihovom angažovanju u svetu i sl. Jedva sam ga skinuo sa vrata, u par navrata mi se činilo da će se to moći rešiti jedino fizičkim obračunom. Napast ispranog mozga, strašno.

[yalgr]

Sve sto cu reci je da ne treba verovati sopstvenim ocima i tu cu staviti tacku. Cesto su pojedini "Otporasi" uspesniji kod uvodjenja kleptokratije i vezokratije u Srbiju od najgoreg pravoslavnog popa sa kalasnjikovom koji voli i Staljina i Milosevica pride. Ali ima i Otporasa koji su zaista uspesni u borbi protiv ovih pojava. Samo cu reci da ne treba verovati sopstvenim ocima i tu stavljam tacku. Demona ima na svim stranama politickog spektra. I ne samo politickog spektra. To nije metafora. To su zaista demoni. Ocima ih neces prepoznati. Preuzimaju slabe licnosti.

[yalgr]

Sve sto cu reci je da ne treba verovati sopstvenim ocima i tu cu staviti tacku. Cesto su pojedini "Otporasi" uspesniji kod uvodjenja kleptokratije i vezokratije u Srbiju od najgoreg pravoslavnog popa sa kalasnjikovom koji voli i Staljina i Milosevica pride. Ali ima i Otporasa koji su zaista uspesni u borbi protiv ovih pojava. Samo cu reci da ne treba verovati sopstvenim ocima i tu stavljam tacku. Demona ima na svim stranama politickog spektra. I ne samo politickog spektra. To nije metafora. To su zaista demoni. Ocima ih neces prepoznati. Preuzimaju slabe licnosti. Al dobro ko ih j... nisu opasni.

[scallop]

Da li slabe ličnosti, kada ih preuzmu demoni, postaju jake ličnosti? Pitam jer mi se dopada kao spisateljska hipoteza, mada sam već gledao (čitao) slično. I tu ću da stavim tačku.

[Meho Krljic]

 Kiev says battling armoured column as Moscow plans new convoy

Donetsk (Ukraine) (AFP) - Kiev on Monday said its forces were clashing with an armoured column that crossed the border from Russia as Moscow ramped up tensions ahead of crunch talks by pledging to send in a new aid convoy.


Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian leader Vladimir Putin are under pressure to defuse the crisis when they meet for the first time in months alongside top EU officials in Minsk Tuesday.
A Ukrainian military spokesman told AFP that border guards were battling "several dozen" armoured vehicles that smashed through the border in the south and headed in the direction of the government-held city of Mariupol.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov dismissed the report as Ukrainian and Western media disinformation, telling a Moscow news conference: "I haven't heard about it, but there has been more than enough disinformation about our invasion. No doubt some foreign newspaper will print that 'news' tomorrow."
If confirmed, the incursion could represent a dangerous push into territory in the Donetsk region under Ukrainian control after a brutal offensive by Kiev had seen government forces pin back struggling insurgent fighters.
A top rebel chief on Sunday announced a counter offensive to the south of the main rebel stronghold of Donetsk and claimed to have deployed fresh tanks and artillery.
AFP journalists witnessed heavy fighting raging to the south of the city with the sound of explosions ringing out and smoke rising from towns to the south.



- Fresh convoy -
While fighting raged on the ground, Moscow ratcheted up the pressure further by saying it would send another controversial aid convoy into east Ukraine.
Russia sent cross-border tensions spiralling last week by unilaterally ordering over 200 lorries filled with what it said was aid to east Ukraine's rebel stronghold Lugansk in a move that Kiev slammed as a "direct invasion."
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced that Russia wanted to send a new convoy "this week" and had appealed to Kiev to help facilitate the delivery after the first batch of lorries returned on Saturday.
Kiev and the West fear that the aid initiative could be a gambit to bolster the ailing insurgency or used by Moscow as a pretext to invade but Russia insists it just wants to help the stricken region.
Over 400,000 people have fled the fighting since April and residents in some rebel-held cities have been without water or power for weeks.



- Hope for peace? -
The upcoming meeting between Poroshenko and Putin has been seen as a rare opportunity to de-escalate more than four months of fighting that has cost over 2,200 lives.
Poroshenko has pledged to "talk peace" with the Russian strongman but insists the withdrawal of pro-Kremlin forces is the only way to end the conflict in east Ukraine.
Kiev has accused Russia of ramping up arms supplies to the rebels as government troops have cut deeper into their territory while Moscow has demanded Ukrainian forces cease their punishing offensive.
Lavrov played down hopes for a major breakthrough in Minsk by saying only that the talks would "facilitate the exchange of opinions about the situation concerning efforts to start the political process to settle the political crisis."
International pressure is high on both sides to compromise as the crisis has sent East-West tensions soaring to their highest point since the end of the Cold War.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for a bilateral ceasefire and tighter border controls during a visit to Kiev over the weekend while stressing support for Ukraine's territorial integrity.
She said later in an interview she wanted to find a way out of the crisis "that doesn't harm Russia" with the EU and US already having slapped the harshest economic sanctions on Moscow since the collapse of Communism.
- Tale of two parades -
Passions rose further after rebels on Sunday paraded dozens of captured soldiers past an angry crowd in the centre of Donetsk in an event timed to undermine a military parade taking place in Kiev to mark Ukraine's Independence Day.
Kiev's defence minister blasted the rebels for failing to respect "the laws of war and humanity."
"This is a challenge not just to Ukrainian society but to the world," defence chief Valeriy Geletey said.
Lavrov stirred controversy further by saying that he "didn't see anything close to what could be considered as humiliating" in images of the parade.
Speaking to a crowd of thousands at the morale-boosting event in Kiev Sunday, Poroshenko decried Russian "aggression" and said he was "convinced that the battle for Ukraine, for independence, will be our success".

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Svaki put kad Poroščenko razgovara sa Bajdenom, on potom ima ruski upad preko granice. Tako mi smrdi na Izetbegovićeve pregovore sa Karadžićem.

[Meho Krljic]

Satelitski snimci bi tu dosta toga rešili, a pošto ih Ameri ne objavljuju, legitimno je da sumnjamo.

[scallop]

Ćist SF, ali Meho ne primećuje. Ne pominjemo više malezijski avion, ni da su Rusi prošvercovali vonju opremu sa humanitarnim konvojem... Američka politika se svela na Tabloid, sa sestrama Keri i Bajden Kardašijan.

[SIMERIJANAC]

The Saker: Врло чудна прича о заробљеним руским војницима
— 27. август 2014.

Да ли су Украјинци заиста ухватили десет руских падобранаца?

Можда. Као прво, овај пут су Укији дали имена, број јединице (331. пук, 98. гардијска падобранска дивизија), па чак и видео снимак њиховог испитивања. Дакле, ово може бити стварно.

Ако јесте, надам се да ће бар ућутати хор кукумавки које непрестано оптужују Русију да не чини ништа, да је издала Новоросију, продала Донбас и сличне глупости. Чињеница је да је Русија стално помагала Новоросију – тајно, што блогери попут Пуковника Касада и мене могу да кажу (прочитајте његов одличан комантар: Пуковник Касад: О ,,радницима продавнице војних вишкова" ), али Русија не може, због правних последица таквог признања. Али свакоме ко зна шта се дешава све време је било познато да је Русија помагала.

Дакле, ово је рат и, како кажу, срања се дешавају. Ипак, много је чудног у овој причи.

Прво, морамо да у потпуности игноришемо све што би могли рећи сироти заробљеници. Сви знамо како Укији третирају своје заробљенике и зато је ирелевантно све што они кажу. Исто тако, ако Укији кажу да су заробили те момке на локацији икс, то не значи да се тако стварно десило. Као што рекох, још увек постоје нека питања на које треба одговорити:

Да ли су се ти војници ,,изгубили", како Русија тврди ? Тешко. Не само што свако зна да област где су били ухваћени сече међународна граница, већ и да се с друге стране води прави рат у коме се пуца. Руски падобранци се не ,,губе" у зони ратних дејстава, не у доба ГЛОНАСС / ГПС – а. Што се мене тиче, могли су их киднаповати на руској страни границе (као Израелце које је Хезболах заробио 2006.) и пренети на своју страну тако да изгледа као да су је сами прешли.

Али, ако јесу послати у Укистан, шта би могао да буде њихов задатак? То је, за мене, потпуна мистерија. Падобранци се не шаљу на непријатељску територију тек тако, морали би да буду подршка у некој операцији која укључује много веће снаге.

Затим, по свему судећи, ови момци су се предали без иједног испаљеног метка. Ако постоји нешто по чему су руски падобранци познати, то је да се не предају, чак и ако то значи смрт. Ипак, ови момци нису сматрали пригодним да се боре. Чудно, опет.

Укији кажу да су падобранци ухваћени са својим документима. Смешно. Руси никада не би послали извиђачки тим са војним књижицама. Узгред, Укији такође рекоше, да су војницима, пре него што ће их послати преко границе, официри узели све њихове документе. Тотална контрадикција.

Према Укијима, само су официри знали да су војници прешли у Украјину, али не и сами војници и подофицири. Смешно. Опет. Не шаљете наоружане људе у зону борбених дејстава а да им то не кажете – то би их све изложило великој опасности и спречило би их да делују на одговарајући начин.

Дакле, искрено, ова прича за мене је апсолутно бесмислена.

Али хајде да претпоставимо најгоре.

Претпоставимо да су ови момци руски држављани и да су на неки начин подржавали Новоросијане.

Па шта?

Прилично је проклето очигледно да Русија месецима тајно подржава Новоросијане и да ни један Рус никада није ухваћен. Сада јесте. Да поновим, ово је рат, срања се дешавају. И невероватно је да се то није десило раније. Наравно, ово је непријатност за руску страну, а тајминг тешко да је могао бити гори, што је, узгред, такође веома сумњиво.

Иако ће пунити наслове ББЦ-а, ова прича је прича које нема и она ће имати нула утицаја на стварни ток рата. То је добра ПР прилика за Порошенка, али није таква да може утицати на нечију тачку гледишта или политику. Надамо се да ћемо за неколико дана или недеља сазнати шта се заиста догодило. Али, у међувремену, сви треба да се опустимо и усредсредимо на реалну причу: Укији су ухваћени у неколико (до шест или седам, у зависности од тога како га дефинишете) ,,прстенова", и у тоталном су повлачењу из Мариупоља. Да, пазите и на састанак у Минску, наравно.

[scallop]

Tako smo i mi uhvatili par Amera kod Prohora Pčinjskog, a oni posle tvrdili da su kidnapovani u Masačusetsu.

[Meho Krljic]

 NATO Just Released Satellite Evidence Russia Is Lying About Invading Ukraine

NATO released a series of satellite images on Thursday showing what a top general described as " Russian combat soldiers, equipped with sophisticated heavy weaponry, are operating inside Ukraine's sovereign territory."

According to a statement posted on the NATO website, the photos "confirmed what NATO and its Allies had been seeing for weeks from other sources." This is a direct contradiction of recent statements made by Kremlin officials and a pro-Russian separatist leader in Ukraine who said all of the Russian troops who had entered the country were on "their vacations" and assisting the separatists on a volunteer basis.

"Over the past two weeks we have noted a significant escalation in both the level and sophistication of Russia's military interference in Ukraine,"  Dutch Brigadier General Nico Tak, director of the Comprehensive Crisis and Operations Management Centre (CCOMC), Allied Command Operation said in the NATO statement. " The satellite images released today provide additional evidence that Russian combat soldiers, equipped with sophisticated heavy weaponry, are operating inside Ukraine's sovereign territory."

Tak said the pictures indicated there were " substantial numbers of Russian combat troops inside Ukraine"  as well as " large quantities of advanced weapons, including air defense systems, artillery, tanks, and armored personnel carriers being transferred to separatist forces in Eastern Ukraine."

" Russia is reinforcing and resupplying separatist forces in a blatant attempt to change the momentum of the fighting, which is currently favoring the Ukrainian military," Tak said. "Russia's ultimate aim is to alleviate pressure on separatist fighters in order to prolong this conflict indefinitely, which would result in further tragedy for the people of eastern Ukraine."

NATO released five satellite photos. According to NATO, the first picture shows "Russian military units moving in a convoy formation with self-propelled artillery in the area of Krasnodon, Ukraine" on Aug. 21.

" There is confidence the equipment is Russian, since Ukrainian units have not yet penetrated this far into separatist controlled territory," the statement said.

NATO's statement said the second picture showed more self-propelled artillery units "supported by logistical vehicles which are likely carrying extra ammunition and supplies."

" This configuration is exactly how trained military professionals would arrange their assets on the ground, indicating that these are not unskilled amateurs, but Russian soldiers," said the statement.

The third satellite photo included two images.

NATO said the one on the left was taken on June 19 when the area was "mostly empty" and the one on the right was taken Aug. 20 in the same area when " main battle tanks, armored personnel carriers, cargo trucks and tented accommodations" were all visible .


NATO said the fourth picture was taken July 23 and showed self-propelled guns in a town just inside Ukraine's southern border.

" The guns are pointed north, directly towards Ukrainian territory," the statement said.


The last image shows what NATO described as a "wider overview" of the guns seen in the fourth picture.

" It is clear that from this location, it would be impossible NOT to fire into Ukrainian territory," the statement said. "This is clearly NOT an exercise; these guns are being used to support separatist forces operating in the territory of Ukraine."

Slike su na linku pa koga zanima i ko se razume, nek pogleda.

[Джон Рейнольдс]

Много бре нешто цвиле ови укро-нацисти. Бем ти времена, ни нацисти више нису ко некад.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmB6tNyfX-Y