ISIJAVANJE (the shining): remek delo ili ...?

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ko govori o današnjim pravoslavcima, ja govorim o povijesti i ideji. Ne teološka, već hermeneutička rasprava.

Vizantinci su razjebali Žižeka odavno.

[Milosh]

Da vaskrsnemo diskusiju o ovom remek-delu, jedan svež tekst: http://libartes.com/2014/februar/film/milos_cvetkovic.php

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moraću sad da pogledam taj dokumentarac

inače, King je protestant a Kubrik je Jevrej

[BladeRunner]

Ovo:

"Osećaj nelagodnosti koji proizvodi prizor koji je na neki način pogrešan teško je adekvatno opisati rečima. Uncanny [9] bi bio adakvatan mada ne i lako prevodiv termin koji se odnosi na nešto što je istovremeno poznato, ali i tuđinsko, i što izaziva osećaj neprijatnosti. Ukoliko prihvatimo da u Isijavanju postoje takvi kadrovi i čitave scene (subjektivno posmatrano), onda možemo pokušati da proniknemo u autorsku nameru koja se nalazi iza njih (objektivno posmatrano). Ono što razlikuje Isijavanje od mnoštva drugih horor filmova – i ovde govorimo pre svega o mehanici žanra – jeste način na koji Kjubrik pravi neosetni prelaz iz realistički postavljene scene u očiglednu scenu strave, a suština te specifičnosti leži u tome što je u Isijavanju svaka scena zapravo horor scena, iako to nije očigledno, niti treba da bude, barem ne na svesnom nivou. Ključ je upravo u ovoj tenziji između dve praktično preklopljene slike - one koja se racionalno opaža i one koja se iracionalno naslućuje."

je baš dobro rečeno. Meni je dio sa mapiranjem hodnika srž njegove strave (takvih scena ima više, kako već kaže i citat). Mislim da gledalac tu nemogućnost registruje, a opet, nije je svjestan kako bi mogao da pokaže šta tu tačno nije kako treba (pogotovo ne na prvo gledanje). Tu je "Isijavanje" nenadmašno - sve je horor, ali je malo šta eksplicitno. Prije nego što se natprirodno zahukta (ne računam telepatski dijalog na početku), film je već nemoguć. Tu je Kjubrik veliki, zato što je gledalac uznemiren, a da ne zna ni zašto. I ako laik horor doživljava kao ono što treba da uplaši, Kjubrik je jedan od prvih autora koji efektno pokazuje da postoji više mehanizama straha. U stvari, "Isijavanje" je, bar za mene, pokušaj da se adresiraju svi ti mehanizmi, od nesvijesnog (hodnik, steady cam vizura hotela - spomenuto u tekstu, a nije mi palo na pamet, odlično), preko eksploatacije (bliznakinje), do čisto racionalne strave (Vendi otkriva rukopis).

Odličan tekst. A sad nema druge bez da repriziram film.

Pozdrav.

[Tex Murphy]

И ја то планирам... само да сакупим друштво.

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ko gledo ovo

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6562647/Kubrick_s_Odyssey_-_Secrets_Hidden_in_the_Films_of_Stanley_Kubr

[BladeRunner]

И ја то планирам... само да сакупим друштво.

Smatraj se pozvanim.

[Tex Murphy]

И ја то планирам... само да сакупим друштво.

Smatraj se pozvanim.

Оћемо у Котору ил у Бањалуци?

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ROOM 237 ima nekih zanimljivih stvari, ali većinom cjepidlačenje koje ne vodi nigdje

lično mislim da je Kubrika boljelo uvo da pomjera tamo neku stolicu u holu

snimanje kod njega traje predugo, nervira i glumce i ekipu, snimi scenu pa se poslije 5 nedjelja vrati na nju jer je promijenio scenario

i onda ekipa zasere sa stolicom ili sa onim saksijama u EYES WIDE SHUT, i kao ''ovo mora da je Kubrik genije namjerno postavio'', jest vala...

[Son of Man]

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/kubrick-nicholson-polanski-illuminati-sexual-abuse-in-the-shining/

[Ghoul]

Stephen King is not a fan of Stanley Kubrick's THE SHINING, I think any horror hound worth their weight knows this. And even though most of us are fans of that movie, and of course King's terrific book, it's always interesting (and kind of fun) to hear the author explain his revulsion to Kubrick's adaptation.

And King's indeed at it again, this time in the latest issue of Rolling Stone. Though he's spoken about it many, many times, Mr. King is still more than happy to let guns blaze over the 1980 film. Here he is speaking about the huge fanbase the movie has:

I don't get it. But there are a lot of things that I don't get. But obviously people absolutely love it, and they don't understand why I don't. The book is hot, and the movie is cold; the book ends in fire, and the movie in ice. In the book, there's an actual arc where you see this guy, Jack Torrance, trying to be good, and little by little he moves over to this place where he's crazy. And as far as I was concerned, when I saw the movie, Jack was crazy from the first scene. I had to keep my mouth shut at the time. It was a screening, and Nicholson was there. But I'm thinking to myself the minute he's on the screen, "Oh, I know this guy. I've seen him in five motorcycle movies, where Jack Nicholson played the same part." And it's so misogynistic. I mean, Wendy Torrance is just presented as this sort of screaming dishrag. But that's just me, that's the way I am.

But it's not just THE SHINING taking shots from King. The author also seemingly doesn't have a fondness for ROOM 237, Rodney Ascher's compelling (in this writer's mind) documentary/study of the many possible hidden meanings in Kubrick's film.

...Well, let me put it this way – I watched about half of it and got sort of impatient with it and turned it off.


These guys were reaching. I've never had much patience for academic bullshit. It's like Dylan says, "You give people a lot of knives and forks, they've gotta cut something." And that was what was going on in that movie.

There you have it - yet there's much more from King in the lengthy and interesting interview, which you can find right HERE: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/stephen-king-the-rolling-stone-interview-20141031?page=5


Read more at http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/news/stephen-king-slams-room-237-and-the-shining---again-125#V21Cv76Ffq6m90sr.99

[Ghoul]

masterpiss:

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više detalja o ovom ludilu:





http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/01/26/watch-nothing-can-prepare-you-for-the-chickening

[Krsta Klatić Klaja]

Коначно!

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-shining-makes-way-more-sense-if-kid-villain/ -

[Krsta Klatić Klaja]