HALLOWEEN Remake

[Tex Murphy]

Malkolm Mekdauel je jedino što vrijedi u ovoj propasti od filma.

[Tex Murphy]

Osim toga, za razliku od Ilaja Rota, taj Rob Zombi nema pojma.

[crippled_avenger]

Just four days prior to its release, a near DVD quality work print copy of Rob Zombie's remake of the classic John Carpenter's "Halloween" has leaked onto torrenting sites.

This is far from the first example of this happening, notably earlier this Summer a similar DVD quality work print of another horror film - "Hostel: Part II" - managed to make its way online pre-release.

Whilst director Eli Roth was more than happy to blame that film's only moderate financial takings on pirates, it was never shown to have notably effected that film's box-office at all. The same goes for Michael Moore's documentary "Sicko" which suffered a similar fates.

This leak is more interesting in that it's the film's 'work print,' the version shown to test audiences back in June which was panned and lead to a rushed week of reshooting to change the ending and "beef up" the gore quotient (allegedly six more deaths were added in).

Not only does it imply somebody in the production process leaked it (rather than exhibitors or audience members with cameras), but also gives insight into the test screening process as to what about the film has been changed.

Right off the bat for example, the 'sample clip' being offered with the torrent shows off a disgustingly brutal gang rape by guards on a female prisoner in front of Michael. It's a scene that is non-existent in the final film in theatres, replaced by a thankfully tamer 'escape scene'.

[Tex Murphy]

Right off the bat for example, the 'sample clip' being offered with the torrent shows off a disgustingly brutal gang rape by guards on a female prisoner in front of Michael. It's a scene that is non-existent in the final film in theatres, replaced by a thankfully tamer 'escape scene'.

Demit! Zašto uvijek izbace the GOOD STUFF???    

[Kunac]

Ko je uspeo da pogleda film? Kakvi su utisci?? 'Ajde to malo detaljnije...

Nego, Harvy, da li si ti film pogledao, ili pričaš napamet o postignuću? Izjasni se!

[Tex Murphy]

Naravno da nisam pogledao! Pa nije valjda dotle došlo da moram da POGLEDAM neki film prije nego što ga s gnušanjem odbacim???

[Bab Jaga]

Naravno da nisam pogledao! Pa nije valjda dotle došlo da moram da POGLEDAM neki film prije nego što ga s gnušanjem odbacim???

Naravno da ne moraš, gdje bi ja bila da čitam svaku knjigu za koju unaprijed znam da niš ne valja.  

[Kunac]

Right off the bat for example, the 'sample clip' being offered with the torrent shows off a disgustingly brutal gang rape by guards on a female prisoner in front of Michael. It's a scene that is non-existent in the final film in theatres, replaced by a thankfully tamer 'escape scene'.

Pogledao sam sporni 'sample clip' - looks bad, and not in a good way.

[DušMan]

Ja iz tog sample klipa nisam mogao da ustanovim dal' je siluju ili kolju. A ni ona "muzika" ne doprinosi mnogo.

[Meho Krljic]

Ja iz tog sample klipa nisam mogao da ustanovim dal' je siluju ili kolju.

Znači, the best of both worlds!!!!

[taurus-jor]

Off topik: Upravo gledam Invasion (ex-Of The Body Snatchers), a pošto je ovo drugi put da pravim pauzu, verujte da nemam mnogo toga dobrog da vam kažem.

Trebalo bi da snimimo film "Invazija loših rimejka"...

[Tex Murphy]

Ili - Invazija filmokradica

[Shozo Hirono]

Halloween - Remake (2007) R.Zombie **
 
Shvatam i potpuno mi je jasno kakav je tezak zadatak imao R.Zombie pred sobom.Obraditi jedan od najznacajnijih i najboljih horora svih vremena.....takodje,shvatam i njegovu srecu kada mu je J.Carpenter ustupio autorska prava,i siguran sam da ovaj film 30 god.posle ce naci neku svoju novu publiku i obozavaoce,SAMO TO DEFINITIVNO NECU BITI JA,niti bilo ko od onih ko stavlja Halloween u Top 5 horora svih vremena.
Prva velika zamerka:haoticna rezija,to se pre svega odnosi na stalk $ kill scene,snimane iz ruku samog Roba verovatno,uz zestoke pokrete gore - dole,levo - desno.....sto na pocetku ne smeta mnogo,ali kako film odmice........
Scenario:znao sam da ce biti izuzetno tesko izvuci se iz zivog peska,koji su stvorili nastavci popularnog serijala,i onda reziser pravi poluprequel - poluremake u pokusaju,sto na kraju ima poguban efekat,jer mnogo toga je izmenjeno,A NISTA NA BOLJE !!!
Casting + acting:gluma je ispod prosecna,mali M.Myers je neuverljiv,Laurie prosecna,cak su i famous epizode prosecne,sa izuzetkom William Forsythea i Sheri Moon,koji BTW,izvodi striptiz u klubu uz pesmu Love Hurts (Nazareth) !!!To ti je kad metalac bira muziku !
Par simpaticnih detalja i izuzetne lokacije can't save the day.....simpatican omaz klasiku The Thing (1951) u 2 navrata !

[Kunac]

Kakav je body cout? Da li je film bar krvav?

[Shozo Hirono]

Starija sestra,njen decko,ocuh,ona 2 kobajagi cuvara koji siluju,jedan par pri zamalo sexu naravno,jos jedan ljubavnik u pokusaju,2 pandura naravno.....i to je to !
Standardno,ali nista previse explicitno nazalost !!!

[taurus-jor]

Auh. Ne znam ko se "bolje" proveo večeras - vi sa Zombie-Halloween ili ja sa Pod Producers: Invasion Of The Moviesnatchers. Šteta što mi Džo Silver neće biti pri ruci kad se oporavim od šoka prouzrokovanog gledanjem ovog nedonoščeta.

[Tex Murphy]

Prva velika zamerka:haoticna rezija,

Tako NEOBIČNO za Roba Zombija  

Auh. Ne znam ko se "bolje" proveo večeras - vi sa Zombie-Halloween ili ja sa Pod Producers: Invasion Of The Moviesnatchers.

"Najbolje" sam se proveo ja, pošto smo u Republici Srpskoj mogli da pratimo prenos Zvezda - Rendžers  

[Son of Man]

Evo ima workprint na Elitu...

[DušMan]

... još od prekjuče.

[Son of Man]

... još od prekjuče.

kako si me sad zajebo !!!  

[Shozo Hirono]

Evo ima workprint na Elitu...

Koji ti je nick na Elitu,i kako to da si ga tek sad primetio ?

[Shozo Hirono]

... još od prekjuče.

A ti Dule jos uvek seedujes Flash Gordona ?

[DušMan]

Pazi ti ovog spijuna.
I Flasha i Californication, novu epizodu, i Halloween. Sve u nadi da cu dici ratio, al' slabo.

[Shozo Hirono]

Pazi ti ovog spijuna.
I Flasha i Californication, novu epizodu, i Halloween. Sve u nadi da cu dici ratio, al' slabo.

Star si ti clan,ipak izgleda da si imao veliku pauzu,ali s obzirom na odnos UP/DL,brzo ces popraviti ratio.

[Son of Man]

Evo ima workprint na Elitu...

Koji ti je nick na Elitu,i kako to da si ga tek sad primetio ?

ma proveravo sam pre 3-4 dana i nije bilo i tek onda jutros jbga...a nik mi je Impaler
Tvoj ?

[Shozo Hirono]

Evo ima workprint na Elitu...

Koji ti je nick na Elitu,i kako to da si ga tek sad primetio ?

ma proveravo sam pre 3-4 dana i nije bilo i tek onda jutros jbga...a nik mi je Impaler
Tvoj ?

masxa

[Son of Man]

dvoje su tako zajedno izvrshili samoubistvo  

nema te, nisi on line ?  

[Shozo Hirono]

Sad jesam .

[Son of Man]

masxa

Bogme nema "masxa" nika na Elitu pa to ti je  

[Shozo Hirono]

Tesko da nema bas,ali sigurno ima impaler !

[Son of Man]

Tesko da nema bas,ali sigurno ima impaler !

Shozo Hirono dosta bre zajebancije poshto tvrdish da te navodno ima, nadji ti mene lakse ces me naci jbga, ukucaj serial killers u search i eno me...  

[Kunac]

Odgledano. Ne znam za konačnu verziju, ali workprint je umerena shitina.   Što je najgore: uspomena na originalni film je oskrnavljena.

[Milosh]

Odgledano. Ne znam za konačnu verziju, ali workprint je umerena shitina.   Što je najgore: uspomena na originalni film je oskrnavljena.

Pogledao i ja, "umerena shitina" je odgovarajuća ocena, a za bioskop, na osnovu onoga što sam pročitao o razlikama između workprint i bioskopske verzije, verovatno treba izbaciti ovo "umerena".

[DušMan]

Morali bi da snimaju sve od početka, sa drugim režiserom, sa drugim scenaristom, producentima i glumcima, i da kažu "Ukapirali smo da je workprint sranje, pa smo snimili novi film", da bi bioskopska verzija bila bolja.

[Ghoul]

Što je najgore: uspomena na originalni film je oskrnavljena.

nisam baš siguran šta ovo treba da znači, ali kakavgod da je 'rimejk', meni je jedina uteha u tome što NIŠTA NE MOŽE DA IZBRIŠE, UGROZI, IZMENI, OSKRNAVI ono što halloween jeste, i uvek je za mene bio: 1 od 10 najvećih horora svih vremena, i prvi veliki horor koji sam u svom životašcetu pogledao, sa nejakih 8 godinica, 1981., film koji me je definitivno okrenuo ka ovom žanru, i JEDINI koji mi je, ikada, izazvao značajniju količinu straha ne samo za vreme, već i zadugo posle gledanja.

znači, nikakav zombi TO ne može da oskrnavi.
ma ni blizu.

možda je on nacrtao brkove na 'halloween', ali bato, PRAVI, IZVORNI, ORIGINALNI 'halloween' ostao je tamo gde ga nikakva balavurdija sa svojim flomasterima ne može dohvatiti, neoskrnavljen, netaknut, i zauvek čist vo imje oca i sina i svjatoga duha, amin!

[Kunac]

Ja nikada nisam bio protivnik remakeova i nastavaka - kakvi god bili, oni nikada nisu mogli da okrnje original. Ipak, HALLOWEEN 2007 je uspeo, neočekivano, da me rasrdi zato što je, pored toga što je loš film, toliko loše napisan da dijalozi bole, deluju kao namerna provokacija usmerena da ponizi Carpenterovu verziju.  Imao sam priliku da pročitam radnu verziju scenarija - koja sama po sebi, u papirnatoj formi,  nije bila nešto posebo - ali transponovana na film postaje prava abominacija. Da li je neko od odgovornih prelisato ovu hrpu smeća pre nego što je produkcija počela? I don't think so. Zombie je dobio odrešene ruke da snimi svoju "viziju" - ali je on, nesrećnik, posegnuo za svojim trailer trash šljamom i tu se priča završila.

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...ja sam, prvenstveno ponet dometima THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, krajnje dobronamerno pristupio Zombijevom vidjenju HALLOWEEN priče, ali, eto, priznajem da sam grdno iznenađen viđenim, na mnogo nivoa- kao prvo, mislim da je pristup kojim se racionalizuje i demistifikuje ludilo Michaela Myersa (kroz pregršt optih mesta- zlostavlanje u porodici, školi, neshvaćenost i neprihvaćenost...) ogroman promašaj jer je uštrojio jezovitost i zlokobnost Carpenterove ideje; kao drugo, neosporna je traljava egzekcuija, te dosta beskrvana i prepisivački postavljena ubistva ovaj remake čine izlišnim; kao treće, Zombie se, kao pijan plota, uhvatio poznatog mu sveta trailer park white trash-a te ga pronalazi i gde ga zapravo nema- i klasno i stambeno napredniji dele taj poor white trash frame of mind, ali to se ne da podvesti pod opšti nihilistički pristup autora, već je očigledno reč o nemogućnosti da se priča u iole drugačijem tonu...potom, film je urađen u veoma tradicionalističkom ključu te post-moderno pojavljivanje sile ikona B/C horora (Richard Lynch, Udo Kier, Brad Dourif, Ken Foree, Sybill Danning, Deee Wallace (Stone)...) čini kao nepotrebno zagušivanje ionako prenapučenog tkiva filma...

...sve u asvemu, nepotrebno!!!

[Tex Murphy]

ali da je daleko od remek-dela

Now there's a surprise  

Sve me više kopka šta će se iz svega ovoga izroditi.

Loš film.

Kunče, očekujem tvoje bezuslovno priznavanje mojih moći letalno precizne prekognicije kvaliteta filmova prije gledanja istih!  

[taurus-jor]

Što je najgore: uspomena na originalni film je oskrnavljena.

nisam baš siguran šta ovo treba da znači, ali kakavgod da je 'rimejk', meni je jedina uteha u tome što NIŠTA NE MOŽE DA IZBRIŠE, UGROZI, IZMENI, OSKRNAVI ono što halloween jeste, i uvek je za mene bio: 1 od 10 najvećih horora svih vremena, i prvi veliki horor koji sam u svom životašcetu pogledao, sa nejakih 8 godinica, 1981., film koji me je definitivno okrenuo ka ovom žanru, i JEDINI koji mi je, ikada, izazvao značajniju količinu straha ne samo za vreme, već i zadugo posle gledanja.

znači, nikakav zombi TO ne može da oskrnavi.
ma ni blizu.

možda je on nacrtao brkove na 'halloween', ali bato, PRAVI, IZVORNI, ORIGINALNI 'halloween' ostao je tamo gde ga nikakva balavurdija sa svojim flomasterima ne može dohvatiti, neoskrnavljen, netaknut, i zauvek čist vo imje oca i sina i svjatoga duha, amin!

Ostace isto kao posle rimejka Psiha. Mochnog originala che se vecina secati kao takvog, a rimejka kao - suludog, nesuvislog kurioziteta.

[Kunac]

ali da je daleko od remek-dela

Now there's a surprise  

Sve me više kopka šta će se iz svega ovoga izroditi.

Loš film.

Kunče, očekujem tvoje bezuslovno priznavanje mojih moći letalno precizne prekognicije kvaliteta filmova prije gledanja istih!  

Eh, to govori samo da nemaš više ideala... Ali, da, istina je da si tačno napisao. Da li se radi o "specijalnim moćima", dobroj kalkulaciji na osnovu raspoloživih podataka ili pukoj slučajnosti - ne znam.

Inače, for the record, HOSTE i HOSTEL 2 su osrednji filmovi.  

[Ghoul]

zombijev helovin je SRAMOTA za SVE ukljucene i najbolje bi bilo smesta spaliti sve kopije filma i zaboraviti da je IKADA napravljen.

mrzeo sam svaki sekund filma, svaku trapavost i traljavost i (nenamernu?) parodiju karpenterovog masterpisa.

ne postoji NIJEDAN sekund, nijedna IDEJA, nista, nista sto bar malo vredi u ovoj verziji, ali zaista, odavno me neki film nije ovako NALJUTIO.

verujte mi, ovo je film samo za proucavaoce, za kompletiste, za neizlecivo radoznale... ali za iole normalnu publiku / nije.

ovo je redundantnije cak i od van santovog psiha.

uzasno.
reklo bi se da citav film postoji samo da bi uzeo svaki pojedini kvalitet originala i onda ga silovao zguza i popisao se po njemu pride.

ovoliko nerazumevanje, ovolika traljavost, ovoliki misguided promasaj je zaista neshvatljiv - a ocekivao sam los flm.
ovo je ispod svakog nivoa.

zombi, r.i.p.

[Son of Man]

Meni se svidja Majkl kad je bio nackli (no pahomije)  
Skroz gotivna faca  

[Plissken]

Film je fantasticno imbecilan. Za nepoverovati.

Potpisujem svaku Ghoulovu rec. Svom srecom da sam film sasvim slucajno pogledao sa nekim otkacenim tipovima koji su se stalno vatali i drpali, inace  bi se samolikvidirao zbog neizdrzivosti sto zombija ne mogu bas tu, na licu mesta, rukama, u klozetskoj solji da udavim...

Klinac je odvratan, pravi zadrgili skot sa gronikom i dupistem ko svinja, koga ni kilo sminke ne bi ucinilo jebljivijim. Svinja.

[DušMan]

Potpisujem svaku Ghoulovu rec. Svom srecom da sam film sasvim slucajno pogledao sa nekim otkacenim tipovima koji su se stalno vatali i drpali, inace  bi se samolikvidirao zbog neizdrzivosti sto zombija ne mogu bas tu, na licu mesta, rukama, u klozetskoj solji da udavim...

Gledao si film na klozetskoj šolji,sa dva lika koja se drapaju i vataju? Koliki li je to wc bio?

Klinac mi je stvarno bio antipatičan... i baš loše glumi. Nikakva grimasa, samo ravno, blentavo, retardirano... kao i ceo film.

[Milosh]

Razlike između workprint i bioskopske verzije:


SCENES IN WORKPRINT NOT IN THEATRICAL VERSION

1. During the breakfast scene, there's additional dialogue between Judith and Deborah concerning eggs. Judith alludes to Deborah having an abortion.
2. The workprint has an opening credits sequence. It plays over the scene of Michael running from the school, Loomis' introduction, and the bully walking through the woods. These scenes are all longer as a result, most significantly more dialogue between Loomis and Deborah, presented in voice over as Michael runs.
3. There's an additional shot when Deborah confronts Michael outside the house after the murders.
4. The montage of Loomis and Michael getting to know each other has more dialogue/scene snippets
5. In the workprint, there is an additional scene of young Michael with Deborah at the institution, where he expresses his need to "get out of here". When he learns he cannot leave, he says "Then I have nothing left to say."
6. When the nurse looks at the photo of Michael and "Boo", there is an additional line where she alludes to Michael being ugly. This provides more of a motive for her killing than is present in the theatrical version.
7. The "Fifteen Years Later" scene begins with a newscast about Michael's possible transfer.
8. Following this newscast begins one of the biggest changes: Udo Kier's character. In the theatrical he is only in ONE scene, but here he has quite a few as the head of Smith's Grove. He is joined by Clint Howard and Tom Towles as other hospital higherups. They disagree with Loomis' instructions for Michael's care. This is followed by the scene where Loomis tells Michael he can no longer be his doctor.
9. The scene of Ishmael Cruz and the new orderly in Michael's room is a bit longer.
10. An additional shot of Loomis leaving Smith's Grove, looking back with a look on his face showing that he is clearly conflicted about his decision to quit on Michael.
11. Additional shots of Michael watching Joe Grizzly.
12. The scene where we meet Laurie and the Strodes is lengthened, there is more talk about the "pervert" hardware store owner.
13. After Loomis speaks at the lecture, there is a scene of him walking with a colleague, asking how he thought he did in the speech.
14. When Laurie and Lynda leave the school, Lynda harasses another female student for some reason, pouring a drink on her head (this is one of the few changes that were for the better, as it makes Lynda even more annoying than she already is)
15. Additional sex talk between the three girls as they walk home
16. When they see Michael, there are additional shots of him standing across the street (in the theatrical we only see his blurry shape)
17. A scene of Laurie walking to her house where her mother is putting up decorations outside. Michael is seen following her in the background.
18. A scene showing Michael in the graveyard, finding the tombstone and then removing it.
19. After Laurie leaves to baby-sit, we hear Michael breathing as her parents chat. When the mother goes inside, Michael approaches. The father sees him and assumes he is a trick or treater.
20. A scene showing Laurie watching horror movies with the kids. Laurie tells Lindsay it's time for her to go.
21. The chase from the Wallace's to the Doyle's is a bit longer
22. The pool scene is a bit longer
23. A scene of Loomis and Laurie walking to the car. After Laurie gets in, Loomis pauses and you can see he is beginning to blame himself.

SCENES IN THE THEATRICAL THAT ARE NOT IN THE WORKPRINT

1. A scene of Loomis explaining the color spectrum to Michael
2. The death of Ishmael Cruz.
3. A scene of Brackett pulling up alongside the girls as they walk home. Brackett offers a ride, which only Annie accepts.
4. The graveyard scene with Sid Haig.
5. A scene where Lynda calls Laurie right before Bob's death.
6. A quick bit where the Strodes express confusion over what Annie means by saying her dad is "same as always"
7. Loomis buys a gun
8. A shot of Bob backing his van into the driveway at the Myers house. Also, this scene occurs much earlier in the theatrical version than it does in the workprint.
9. A scene where Brackett explains how he knows who Laurie Strode's real family is (a much needed addition as it is never explained in the workprint how she came to be with that family or how Loomis would know where to find her).
10. Loomis running up to the house and finding the kids is not in the workprint.

SCENES THAT ARE DIFFERENT ENTIRELY

1. Michael listens to Monster Mash in the first scene instead of classic rock (note – a lot of the music is different, more usages of the original music, but that is to be expected from a workprint – this was the only one I will point out)
2. The biggest one that almost everyone knows about, when Michael escapes. In the workprint, an orderly and his friend harass and then rape a female inmate in Michael's room. Michael ignores them until they begin playing with his masks (this pays off the line about him not liking it when people touch his things). He kills them both, gets their keys, and escapes. In the theatrical, he is being moved for some reason and suddenly kills the four guards, including Tom Towles (who plays a different character in the workprint), as well as Bill Moseley, and Leslie Easterbrook, neither of whom appear in the workprint).
3. The scene where Loomis is told that Michael escapes is entirely different, and features more Udo Kier.
4. The scene where Loomis leaves for Haddonfield after arguing with Udo Kier and Clint Howard is completely different.
5. The scene where Loomis meets Brackett takes place in a different location (a diner in the theatrical, and what appears to be the graveyard in the workprint), and the dialogue is different.
6. Mrs. Strode is brutally killed; in the workprint it is just sort of suggested.
7. Bob's death is completely different. In the workprint, he is killed in his van when he goes out to get beer. In the theatrical, he is killed in the exact same way he was killed in the 1978 film.
8. Tommy goes with Lindsay and Laurie back to the Wallace house in the theatrical version, in the workprint he stays in his own home.
9. The ending is completely different from the moment Michael pulls Laurie out of the car. In the workprint, Loomis talks to Michael for a while longer than he does in the theatrical version. Then the cops show up, guns drawn. Loomis convinces them all to stand down while he continues to try to calm Michael. He succeeds, and Michael lets Laurie go. As she runs to Loomis, the cops (including Brackett) open fire, shooting him dozens of times. Loomis screams for them to stop but it's too late. Michael appears dead. The film ends on a very nice shot of Loomis standing over Michael's body, clearly realizing how he failed his patient, as we hear the audio recording of their very first meeting at Smith's Grove. In the theatrical, Michael kills Loomis, then spends about 10 minutes smashing his house trying to find Laurie. He finally does, and then rushes her. They go out the window, then Laurie shoots him, screams, and the film ends.

[DušMan]

Posle ovog zanimljivog ubeđivanja da filmu treba još dati šansu i u punoj verziji, evo i intervjua sa Zombijem, gde on objašnjava šta misli o ideji rimejkovanja Halloweena, šta Karpenter misli o celoj stvari, da li će se raditi nastavak, i da li mu je teško da naređuje svojoj ženi na snimanjima: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=127517

[Ghoul]

sad kad sam se malo ohladio, moram da priznam da sam ono gore sto sam napisao malkice preterao.

znaci, povlacim izjavu da sam 'mrzeo svaku sekundu filma'.

zapravo, u ovom filmu postoje 4 sekunde koje su mi se dopale.

2 sekunde u kojima mali majers proviri kroz prozor, dok napolju deca trikortrituju, a on se pod maskom sprema da u sopstvenoj režiji napravi my own private halloween.
iako je ovo verovatno slučajno, meni je fino delovalo.
kao, jebite se vi dečice sa vašim bombonama, ja ću sebi da napravim halloween po sopstvenoj meri.

pored toga, jedno sat vremena kasnije - nakon bezbroj sekundi koje sam sve i bez izuzetka mrzeo - dolaze još 2 sekunde koje su mi bile ok. to su 2 sek. u kojima majkl dođe do vrata koja mu zalupe pred nosem, a u samom vrhu vrlo visokih vrata ima staklo, i nj. maska tu proviri, i onda shvatis koliko je to visoka mrcina. to prozorče je na visini od oko 2 m ili tu negde. baš fino izgleda.

eto, dakle, istine radi, opisao sam vam 4 sekunde filma koje nisu loše.

mrzeo sam SVE ostalo.

[Ghoul]

sasvim predvidivo, ovaj HALLOWEEN (2007) ABORTUS od filma se prvog dana otvorio sa ciglih $10,950,000

       

i posle mi harv prica o nekakvom bogu, pravdi, istini...

[Kunac]

Znači, za prvi weekend minimum 20 miliona $, da WORKPRINT nije procureo bilo bi i više. Jedina dobra stvar u svemu ovome jeste da je jedan R horror konačno zagospodario vrhom liste filmskih hitova.

Navodna poboljšanja u odnosu na workprint (pokupljeno s IMDb borda):

-Obviously they cut the rape scene. It's not hard to explain why this offensive scene is better off GONE.
-Ismael Cruz stumbling across Michael after his rampage in the sanitarium and his subsequent death. I actually felt BAD for this guy when Michael was drowning him as he was begging "I was good to you Michael! I was good to you!" He was just a side character but he was sympathetic and I felt bad that Michael killed him. This was so much better than Michael killing that *beep* orderly Nole who we would have had no sympathy for. Nole's part was reduced to one scene which is fine with me.
-In the workprint there is NOT ONE SCENE between Annie and her father. We knew he was her dad because she mentions it, but there was nothing to "connect" them for the audience. The Theatrical included an extension on the scene where the girls are walking home from school where Brackett pulls up and offers the girls a ride. Annie accepts, and after she's gone Laurie and Lynda talk about what it must be like to have the sheriff for a dad. Lynda also asks Laurie if she thinks Brackett was flirting with her. It's little touches like this that work better than the workprint.
-In the workprint, Sheriff Brackett and Loomis randomly meet in the cemetery at night and Loomis just HAPPENS to have a copy of Loomis's book in his pocket and starts quoting passages. So lame, and it made Brackett look like an idiot. In the theatrical Loomis meets Brackett outside of a diner. Staged so much better, and rather than envying Loomis, Brackett seems kind of put off by the whole book (which is much more in line with what his character should be as the *beep* SHERIFF).
-In the workprint, it just cuts to a shot of Lynda and Bob entering the Myer's house...no dialogue...no explanation why they're there...next shot she's riding him on the floor. The theatrical added a simple little scene of Bob backing his van into the driveway and the two exchange some lines about being sad that the house is being sold because they won't have a place to "party" anymore.
-An extra scene of Lynda calling Laurie at home while Bob goes out to get the beer from his van. Stretches the time passage of this scene out a little better and also adds a little more camraderie between Laurie and Lynda as friends.
-Bob's death is almost exactly like his character's death in the '78 version. A much better homage than getting stabbed in the van ala Randy from Scream 2.
-Mrs. Strode's death in the workprint in over in a second and all you see is a spray of blood. In the theatrical she crawls through the house as Michael stalks her, then throws her around and finally breaks her neck. Mason Strode's quick death, though trimmed down from the workprint, actually worked BETTER as a jump scene in the theater.
-A little more banter between Annie and Lindsey as they walk to the Doyle house. Again, just a little touch that worked.
-Brackett explaining to Loomis that he knew about Laurie's connection to the Myers and how she was adopted by the Strodes. The workprint left this all out.
-And last but not least, the ENDING. How anyone could prefer the workprint ending is beyond me. It's hurried and anticlimactic. The theatrical adds at least 10 more minutes of Michael stalking Laurie through the house. If it had ended with the workprint ending it would have felt completely unsatisfying and abrupt.

[Ghoul]

a evo i rivjua koji 100% mogu da potpišem: sentiment je potpuno isti kao moj, glavne zamerke takođe, te stoga, fala ti brale što si mi uštedeo trud koji na ovo gomno ionako nisam planiro da trošim opisujući ga! ti si barem (pretpostavljam) plaćen da to uradiš, i majstorski si pinpointovao baš one suštinske stvari koje ovaj abortus čine ne samo lošim rimejkom nego i lošim filmom:
"Halloween is, objectively speaking and without thinking about the original, a crummy film. As a remake of the Carpenter movie it's a heinous abortion."

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http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=reviews&id=11637