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Meho Krljic

Evo kolekcije naslovnih strana softributovanog Marvelovog univerzuma koje najavljuju kako će sve izgledati po završetku Secret Wars.

Ima tu stvari koje me snevesele, na primer to da Waid više nije na Daredevilu, niti Remender na Uncanny Avengers i Kapetanu Americi. Neke stvari su bile unapred jasne (Duggan ostaje na Deadpoolu, David ostaje na Spider-man 2099, Slott na Amazing Spider-man, Bendis na Spider-man, Aaron na Thoru), a neke su interesantne (Hopeless na All-New X-men, Bunn na Uncanny) dok je lepo videti transfere iz DC-a koji su tamo radili sjajne stvari i treba sad da pokažu da nisu slučajno došli u Marvel (Taylor na Wolverineu, Lemire na Old Man Logan, Hawkeye i Extraordinary X-Men). Možda najzanimljivije od svega: Wilson pored Ms. Marvel sad daobija i A-force (to je onaj "ženski Avengers") Waid dobija da piše Avengers i to bi moglo da bude fenomenalno (a nije da neće imati težak posao posle Hickmanovog rana) a Pak se vraća na Hulka  :-| :-|  Takođe, Hickman se ni na jednoj od ovih naslovnih strana ne pominje. Uh? Ni Remender ali hajde, on ima nekoliko vrlo uspešnih serijala na Imageu u ovom trenutku. Nije valjda da je Hickman rešio da postane novi Ed Brubaker posle samo par godina u mejnstrimu?


Meho Krljic

Tekst na io9 koji razmatra All Star Batman and Robin, najgori Betmen strip ikada i skoro da tvrdi da je Miller ovo uradio kao parodiju. Hmmm, nije da to ne bi objasnilo mnogo toga. Maj gad, nije valjda da smo Millera sve ove godine pogrešno shvatali?

Meho Krljic

Cinici ne veruju da je romansa između Majli Sajrus i Stele Maksvel stvarna, jer ipak, Majli većinu onog što radi, radi karijere radi, ali ja se zaista nadam da je nakon raskida sa Patrikom Švarcenegerom našla nekog da joj zaleči ranjeno srce. Majli to zaslužuje.
tl:dr: ako kliknete na link videćete dve mlade žene kako se ljube.

RedSonja

ma, crnci ostaju crnci , jednom crnac uvek crnac , šta od njih više da očekuješ..

Meho Krljic

Que???  :shock:






Mislim, da je Majli Afroamerikanka, to bi samo ulepšalo njenu pojavu, ali ona je baš suprotno, rednek.

Linkin

Reklo bi se da se Sonja još nije rasanila.  :)


Meho Krljic

Quote from: Linkin on 03-07-2015, 09:48:58
Reklo bi se da se Sonja još nije rasanila.  :)


Da, jedino poluobjašnjenje koje imam je da je reč "cinici" bunovno pročitala kao "crnci". Dobro, nije da se meni takve stvari ne dešavaju svakog dana.

Linkin

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 03-07-2015, 10:12:16
Quote from: Linkin on 03-07-2015, 09:48:58
Reklo bi se da se Sonja još nije rasanila.  :)


Da, jedino poluobjašnjenje koje imam je da je reč "cinici" bunovno pročitala kao "crnci". Dobro, nije da se meni takve stvari ne dešavaju svakog dana.

Ipak, simpatična mi je ideja da bi crnci razmatrali romansu dve belkinje na takav način. A tek o tome kako je Sonja emotivno odreagovala na sve to i da ne pričamo. :lol:

Meho Krljic

Neki od njih sigurno to i rade. Brojni su glasovi koji tvrde da Majli većinu svojih "skandaloznih" poteza vuče upravljana upustvima svog savetnika za medije, pa su verovatno među tim glasovima neki i crni.

Linkin

Jasna stvar, ali isključivo crnci?! A deluje kao i da imaju potparola za medije svoje rase! :|

дејан

и ја сам циници прочитао црнци
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Meho Krljic

Da mogu sad da odem i deditujem taj post, uradio bih to, promenio "cinici" u "crnci" kako bi se barem malo reda unelo u ovaj haos.

дејан

да пишеш ћирилицом то се не би десило  :lol:
...barcode never lies
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Meho Krljic

To bi unelo previše haosa u moj "rad" na forumu, s obzirom na to koliko stvari ovde citiram, pejstujem itd. Tako da... apgrejdujte svoje čitalačke skilove da budu kadri i sa latinicom se poneti, pohrvati i kao pobednici izaći!!!!!!

дејан

нек се латиница апгрејдује на квалитет разумљивости писма које је сам бог прописао да се народ описмени! +
...barcode never lies
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Meho Krljic

Latinica je mnogo razumljivija od ćirilice. Pa, vidiš da je i Hrvati lako čitaju a njima je ćirilica nesavladiva!

RedSonja

prvo nisam lepo pročitala, onda sam ponovila da vidim da li sam lepo pročitala, a kasam pročitala kako je napisano smejala sam se onome kako sam prvo bila pročitala, pa sam pomislila da podelim s vama ?

Albedo 0

u pet ujutru dobro nisu ispali Cincari!

Meho Krljic

Važno je da smo svi ujedinjeni u želji da Majli pošaljemo pozitivne vibracije kroz etar ne bi li i ona jednom pronašla sreću koju tako dugo traži.

RedSonja

da već , koliko, sedamnaest celih godina...
ja je tražim dvadeset i kusur pa mi niko ne šalje pozitivne vibratore...

Meho Krljic

Ali i imaš one divne mačke. Koga ima Majli? Gomilu "prijatelja" koji joj govore da je kul, da je najjača, ne bi li i sami dotakli deo zvezdane slave. Ćaleta koji je od nje napravio proizvod dok još nije znala ni na koju joj stranu dođe dupe. Korporaciju Dizni koja će eksploatisati njen lik i delo verovatno i posle naših smrti. Ne možemo ne saosećati sa dušom koja rastrzana između zvezda i blata čezne za malo istinske bliskosti.

Albedo 0

taj Dizni, koliko je napravio ovih anđeoskih klinki u teen drolje, ima li takvih podataka... mislim, Picolato je sigurno negdje našao


RedSonja

pa ja koko znam nekoliko tipova iz dizni korporacije su optuženi za zlostavljanje maloletnica, ako se dobro sećam, konkretno petnaestogodišnja,
svi su to poricali, verovatno i dan danas poriču,
i ja im želim svu sreću u tome.

heeee

ridiculus

Pošto mislim da je ovo pravi topik za japanske SF filmove rađene prema stripu, evo:

http://youtu.be/dcVuEbnq-8Y

Podeljen je u dva dela, a drugi još nisam gledao. Prilično sam zadovoljan prvim, a ti znaš koliki sam fan stripa (i možda koliko bežim od japanskih mejnstrim filmskih adaptacija). Doduše, na Kotakuu su ispljuvali film - što ja mislim da je preterano do granice apsurda, jer se zasniva dobrim delom na razočaranju time što film nije isti kao strip - ali Variaty daje prilično solidnu ocenu, kao i ANN. Kao i Mark Schilling za The Japan Times, a on je neka vrsta japanskog Eberta (ok - preciznije rečeno - Eberta koji živi u Japanu).
Dok ima smrti, ima i nade.

Meho Krljic

Da, Kotaku ga je sahranio. Ako se dobro sećam, za drugi deo je napisao da je malo bolji. Eh, videćemo. Videćemo!!!!!!!!!!!!

дејан

мени се паразит 1 допао. није добар ко анима ал није добар ни ривју човека који за себе каже
QuoteAuthor Hitoshi Iwaaki's masterpiece quite literally helped define me as a person and I am quite aware that I carry a lot of baggage when it comes to talking about it.
фанбојевски чланци баш и немају места на таквом порталу као што је котаку...пут до крекда је лак ал одатле нема повратка.


...barcode never lies
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Meho Krljic

O, pa Kotaku se od ovakvih optužbi uobičajeno štiti objašnjenjem da su oni najviše blog i opinion-based medijum, tako da... Ne zaboravimo i da su oni ipak jedan od Gawkerovih sajtova, a Gawker, iako je u pitanju solidno poznata mreža, nije baš neki ozbiljan medij...

дејан

јасно је све то, драги мехмете, али повремено нагињање неквалитету основни је предуслов пада у канту за ђубре...мислим...све то као благонаклоно али и благовремено упозорење драгим местима на интернету...
...barcode never lies
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Meho Krljic

Kotaku zapravo ima začuđujuće visok prosečan kvalitet tekstova uzevši u obzir koliko ih publikuju i koliko su dugački. Da ne pominjem silne gifove kojima ih kite. Gotovo da nema igračkog sajta koji s njima može u tome da se poredi. Čak ni RPS...

ridiculus

Meni je tekst u Kotakuu apsurdan... ne bih ga ni spomenuo da ne znam da ih Meho prati. Ne zaboravite, i na mene je manga uticala formativno, u smislu da je oblikovala moj ukus i očekivanja za sve što sledi, a ja se ne slažem skoro ni sa čim što se kaže u prikazu.

Bilo sam skoro siguran da će film da padne na nivou specijalnih efekata. Prvo, zato što ih nije lako pošteno odraditi ni sa američkim iskustvom i budžetom, a onda i zbog tradicije japanskih igranih filmova te vrste. Da je bilo tako, čitav film bi se srušio kao kula od karata, pošto je to osnovno u njemu - međutim, i za divno čudo, to se ne dešava. Ne u prvom delu, a onda nema razloga da sumnjam ni u drugi.

Ovde imate intervju sa rediteljem, Takašijem Jamazakijem, gde on priča o nekim odlukama u produkciji filma, i zašto misli da ovaj nije pogodan da ga snime u Holivudu.

EDIT: ispravljen link
Dok ima smrti, ima i nade.

Meho Krljic

Kristofer Prist na svom blogu o tome kako je bilo biti jedini afroamerički član Marvelove redakcije krajem sedamdesetih i početkom osamdesetih:


http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/chips.html


Edit: a evo i sa istog mesta njegove diskusije o crnim likovima u superherojskim stripovima:


http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/chips3.html


Ovi tekstovi su stari više od deset godina ali Priest ih piše izvanredno odmereno, ukazuje na sistemski rasizam ali ne pronalazi ga tamo gde ga nema i ovo je vrlo zanimljivo čitati u svetlu današnje Marvelove inkluzivne inicijative.

Meho Krljic

U 2015. godini Toni Stark je jedan od najpopularnijih likova u Marvelovom kinematskom univerzumu zahvaljujući RDJ-evoj glumi, šarmu i harizmi. Međutim, pre 42 godine, Tonija Starka su morile ozbiljne brige:



ridiculus

Šire se glasine da će George Miller da režira za WB nešto iz DC-jevog proširenog univerzuma. The Flash? Green Lantern Corps? Cyborg? Shazam? Ovo prvo je nekako najrealnija mogućnost, da ne kažemo da nam je i vreme prikazivanja najbliže.
Dok ima smrti, ima i nade.

Meho Krljic

Da, pa Fleš je zakazan za Mart 2018. godine tako da, ima smisla. A i glavni glumac se preziva Miller  :lol: :lol: :lol:  Naravno, nije da shvatam zašto Warner ne uzme Granta Gastina imajući u vidu da je ovaj uspeo da se solidno trejdmarkuje kod publike ulogom u seriji, ali nije da ja generalno shvatam korporacije.


Meho Krljic

New Justice League Cartoon Is the Bleakest DC Universe Movie Ever

Već sam posvlačio sve epizode strip adaptacije ali posle ovog napisa mislim da ću da pogledam i crtani.


Meho Krljic

Da prekinemo na trenutak redovne vesti zbog posebnog saopštenja od strane Iron mana:



Meho Krljic

Inače, u svetlu najava da će naredni filmski Spajdermen biti više komedija nego bilo koji Marvelov (ili Sonyjev Marvelov) film do sada treba da se setimo da je Stan Lee još šezdesetih imao ovakve epizode u Amazing Spider-man, prikazujući sa čime se urbani superheroj susreće kada mu se kostim zaprlja a mora da se pojavi u njemu pred kamerama:



Dybuk

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-07-2015, 14:02:10
Cracked tekst o tome kako izgleda biti bipolaran iz pozicije osobe koja je - bipolarna. Korisno.
Jeste.

Evo vrlo intimnog svedocanstva o jednom jos cescem poremecaju: Anksiozni Poremecaj

U jednom slicnom tekstu na ovu temu sam procitala da od nekog vida anksioznog poremecaja pati 40 miliona Amerikanaca, ili oko 18%, ne znam kako stvari stoje ovde, ali to je very much bolest novog doba.

Dok bipolarni poremecaj (nekad poznat kao manicna depresija) iako ne redak, pogadja 'svega' oko 2.6% populacije.

Meho Krljic

Sreća, Srbi su tu da pomognu u izlečenju kroz saosećajne komentare  :lol:


QuoteTi si prihvatila dijagnozu da si anksiozni neuroticar, i zato ti se sve vraca. Kad bi probala malo s meditacijom ili jogom,.. mozda se disanje i puls ujednace, pa se i pogled vremenom izbistri i fokusira, pa se stekne i hrabrost da se suocis sa svetom. I to se vezba. I naravno, treba ti saveznik i ljubav, ali ne da se njome pokrijes preko glave nego da ti pomogne da stanes na svoje noge!

Dybuk

Mislim da je dobro prosla, ovo je iznenadjujuce saosecajan i informisan komentar, za nase poimanje stvari. :lol:

Meho Krljic

Ja suočen sa ovakvom narodnom mudrošću uvek pomislim na onu "Znate kako se zove alternativna medicina koja daje rezultate? Medicina."

Dybuk


Meho Krljic

Spajdi je od jutros na oprezu. Avgust je mesec koji bi najviše voleo da se opustimo i padnemo u svoju smrt!



дејан

ево нечега што се делимично дотиче мехмета (у вегетаријанско-веганском департману)...у питању је потпуно бесмислена дилема (ако мене ико пита (а не пита - но баш ме брига)). не знам да ли ми је више имбецилно или сумануто да неко има приговор савести само за животиње а нема за биљке поред толико доказа о осетљивости биљака на бол, опасност и способност комуникације (колико год рудиментарна била).  па изволте да прочитате лицемерје у једној од својих имбецилнијих и нелогичнијих облика, и то од стране (само)прокламованог 'филозофа морала' - што ово лицемерје, међу многима, чини мени посебно одвратно. лажна дилема лажног филозофа цивилизације лажног морала



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The Animal-Lover's Dilemma: I Don't Eat Meat, but My Pet Does


When moral philosopher Gary Steiner first adopted his cat Pindar, the vet advised him to put the cat to sleep. A rescue animal, Pindar had tested positive for FIV (feline AIDS) and feline leukemia, and has since developed other chronic health issues, including kidney disease. Steiner decided to keep Pindar, triggering an ethical dilemma he still struggles with nearly a decade later.


I spoke with Steiner earlier this week, after he had just returned from an out-of-state vet appointment in Ithaca, NY, and was busy preparing for a 160-mile trip to Philadelphia, where Pindar was scheduled to undergo an MRI the following morning. "I'm hemorrhaging money over this little guy," he told me over the phone. And he has been for years.


When Steiner decided to keep Pindar alive against the vet's advice, "I knew then that it made no sense," says Steiner, a strict ethical vegan who nevertheless feeds Pindar meat-based, kidney-diet cat food from a can. "I knew that other animals would be killed in slaughterhouses so that Pindar could live."


Steiner is the John Howard Harris Professor of Philosophy at Bucknell University. An academic philosopher for more than three decades and the author of several books on animal rights, he has ruminated more than most people on the ethical arguments for avoiding meat, and the existential and social challenges of doing so in practice. Many of these are challenges he wrestles with personally, and chief among them are those associated with Pindar. I got in touch with him because, as someone who makes an effort to eat meat sparingly but also feeds his dog a predominantly meat-based diet, I wanted to know how Steiner resolves the tension between his personal ethics and the dietary needs of his pet.


Some bad news on that front: There may be no solution. Steiner has been a vegan for more than twenty years, and was a vegetarian for nearly fifteen before that. But for nearly a decade, Steiner says, Pindar has posed an ethical problem he cannot solve—"and it makes me feel, pardon my French, absolutely shitty."


Steiner isn't the only person who feels this way. In 2012, Bellarmine University psychologist Hank Rothgerber surveyed more than 500 vegan and vegetarian cat- and dog-owners, to better understand how they confront what he calls the "vegetarian's dilemma," i.e. the conflict that "pits feeding one's pet an animal-based diet that may be perceived as best promoting their well-being" against "concerns over animal welfare and environmental degradation threatened by such diets."


Rothgerber found that vegetarians and vegans who avoided meat for ethical reasons experienced significantly more guilt over their pets' diets than did test subjects who abstained from meat in the interest of personal health. Similarly, vegans reported feeling significantly more guilt than did vegetarians.


The explanation for this observation seems obvious: There are moral, spiritual, philosophical, mystical, environmental and health-related cases for abstaining from meat, to name a few, and where a person falls on the broad spectrum of meat-abstention will depend on the arguments they adhere to. It's reasonable to assume, however, that while Vegan A and Vegan B may subscribe to different ethical codes, those codes probably bear a closer resemblance to each other than either does to that of a vegetarian, and are probably stricter, too. It makes sense that someone like Steiner, whose personal and professional identities hinge on the denunciation of the ways human use animals to satisfy their desires, would feel worse about feeding his pet meat than would someone like myself: I may eat meat only on occasion, but I am neither a vegan nor a vegetarian, and my avoidance of meat has more to do with environmental concerns than with animal welfare.


Research supports the notion that loftier ethical goals correspond to a more acute sense of contrition. Compared to vegetarians, vegans tend to be more positive in their attitudes toward animals, believe animals to be more emotionally similar to humans, express greater concern over the impact of their diet on animal welfare, and give more animal-related justifications for their diets. It follows that a vegan would experience more guilt over the meat in his pet's diet than would an ethical vegetarian. Similarly, a vegetarian who abstains from meat because she loves animals will probably experience more guilt than someone who avoids meat primarily for the sake of his health. Someone who avoids meat because he's worried about heart disease doesn't necessarily care about animal suffering.


There's another layer to all of this that I haven't mentioned yet: In Rothgerber's study, ethically motivated vegans and vegetarians were more likely to own at least one cat or dog than respondents who abstained from meat for health reasons—74.8% of the former identified as pet owners, compared to 54% of the latter. (The American Pet Products Association estimates 37—47% of households in the United States have a dog, and 30—37% have a cat.) Respondents who avoided meat for ethical reasons also tended to own more dogs and cats than those motivated by health.


Again, these observations aren't exactly surprising. As Rothgerber notes, "it seems reasonable... that pet ownership may be one vehicle among many for [vegans and vegetarians] to express their compassion and warmth toward animals." But what a cruel paradox, that a person's affinity for other creatures should compel them toward situations in which they must regularly choose between the wellbeing of their pet and the lives of the animals that their pet eats.


On the phone, Steiner tells me about his internal struggle over Pindar. Nine years ago, he says, if he'd wanted to be a strict utilitarian about Pindar, "it would have made more sense to kill him." It would make more sense today, too. But he won't. "The only way I can make sense of it is the immediate connection that he somehow exercises over me."


Steiner is comparing a strictly utilitarian view on animal welfare (i.e. weighing the life of one's pet against the lives of the animals killed to feed said pet) against an emotional and psychosocial one. "There's something about the immediacy of a face-to-face connection with animals that awakens a sense of responsibility in us that isn't reducible to some abstract principle," he says.


Perhaps this is why most of the test subjects in Rothgerber's investigation put their minds at ease by feeding their cats and dogs diets reduced in animal protein, rather than eliminating meat altogether. One quarter of the ethical vegans surveyed reported feeding their pet a diet less than 25% from animal products, but the majority still fed their animals a predominantly meat-based diet. Vegetarians, and those motivated by health concerns, were even less likely to abandon their pets' traditional, animal-based meals.


In a followup study, Rothgerber compared the individual habits of dog and cat owners. He found that ethically minded dog owners usually assuaged their guilt by feeding diets reduced in animal protein. Cat owners, on the other hand, tended to alter not their feeding behaviors but their perceptions, in that they viewed vegetarian diets as inappropriate for their feline companions. These decisions reflect the consensus among veterinary scientists that vegetarian and vegan pet foods are unsafe for cats, which can develop serious health problems in the absence of meat-derived nutrients like preformed vitamin A and the amino acid taurine. Whether these and other nutrients can be added to a cat's vegetarian diet to fill nutritional gaps remains a controversial topic, though attempting to do so is usually not recommended. Supplemented vegetarian diets are thought to be less dangerous for dogs; but the prevailing view is that an ideal diet for both species should contain at least some quantity of animal protein.


"I wish Pindar could be a vegan, and if he had a healthier constitution I would probably consider trying it." Steiner says that after Pindar dies, if he adopts a healthy kitten, he "might give it a shot," though this too, he says, would be a compromise because this could come at the sacrifice of the cat's long-term health. "I don't see a simple, straightforward, clear cut solution to any of this," he says.


The deeper one digs, the more it seems Steiner is right. You could abstain, as some do, from adopting meat-eating animals altogether, though this gives rise to equally confounding conundrums that pit the ethics of animal domestication and pet ownership against humanity's obligations toward millions of shelter animals (for whose existence we are responsible in the first place).


It's tempting, also, to treat the vegetarian's dilemma like a variation on the classic trolley problem: A trolley car full of animals destined to become pet food is heading for a cliff. You can divert the trolley onto another track, but there stands one hapless Domestic Shorthair that will be killed if you do. Do you save animals aboard the trolley at the expense of the the cat on the second track, or do you do nothing? But sacrificial dilemmas like the trolly problem, while useful for teaching college freshmen about moral philosophy, are no more easily resolved. (There are also some who argue that the trolly problem has been so frequently construed and misapplied that its utility in deciphering one's moral reasoning has been lost. What's more, there is evidence that the classic utilitarian response—i.e. "kill the one to save the many"—do not reflect impartial concern for the greater good, and may actually be driven by broad antisocial tendencies. Yeah.)


What winds up happening, says Steiner, is you start with a very discreet question—How do vegetarians reconcile their personal ethics with the meat-based diets of their pets?—"and it immediately opens up onto a whole world of questions and values and prejudices that it can't ultimately be surgically removed from."


"There is a style of thinking in contemporary ethics (not just among professional ethicists but among everyday people reasoning about ethical questions) that is the product of a desire for clear and definitive answers to ethical questions," says Steiner. "But our perspective is limited, and there is absolutely no reason to suppose that every ethical dilemma has a straightforward solution. If a dilemma had a clear solution, it wouldn't be a dilemma."


Steiner's personal solution: adopt rescue animals only, spay and neuter them when he does, and advocate, simultaneously, an end to all forms of animal domestication.


"Yes, we interfere with the freedom of domesticated animals by preventing them from reproducing; but in my judgment this is the least bad solution to a genuine dilemma," he adds. "In the meantime, I am supporting the very regime of slaughterhouses that I decry, and I am confining Pindar in a luxury prison."


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Steiner's personal solution: adopt rescue animals only, spay and neuter them when he does, and advocate, simultaneously, an end to all forms of animal domestication."Yes, we interfere with the freedom of domesticated animals by preventing them from reproducing; but in my judgment this is the least bad solution to a genuine dilemma," he adds. "In the meantime, I am supporting the very regime of slaughterhouses that I decry, and I am confining Pindar in a luxury prison."
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Meho Krljic

Što bi He-Man rekao:





A inače, sve su ovo dileme kada čovek živi udobno i u izobilju, pa to tako i treba posmatrati. Naravno da je meni žao i biljaka koje jedem, kao i toga što moje životinje jedu meso, jelte, ali vodim se nekakvim kriterijumom manje štete koji je povremeno, razume se, sasvim bezdušan - mačka je sličnija meni nego krastavac, pa jedno jedem a drugo hranim mesom...

дејан

мени је то што си написао сасвим бесмислено
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