Za GHOULa - novi projekat J.J. Abramsa...

[milan]

WTF?
http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/

[milan]

I text sa AICNa
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33238

[milan]

Dakle, zanimljiva marketinska kampanja je krenula sa premijerom Transformersa - pre filma je u amer. bioskopima prikazan trejler za nekakav film bez naslova, koji je potpuno snimljen iz ruke.
Evo ga ovde
http://www.thegaminglife.net/
Ono sto se pretpostavlja je da film govori o povratku drevnih bogova na Zemlju...
Evo TV priloga o zanimljivoj market. kampanji.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WcPvu5canE&NR=1
Premijera ovog misterioznog naslova je u januaru 2008.

[milan]

Evo i veoma zanimljivog trejlera u quicktime-u...
I dalje nije poznat naslov filma.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/

[Jake Chambers]

Ja sam tek sad seo ovo da odgledam i ono... WTF??? Nekako mi zvuči kao smokie iz LOSTa...

[Ghoul]

otkrili su monstruma, al bolje da nisu.

meni ovaj kit na nogama deluje baš sklepano i jeftino, stripovski u lošem smislu, za nešto što pretenduje na neki kao kvazidokumentaristički fazon.

[Jake Chambers]

Hahaha, em pretenduje, em je kao... LOL.

[Ghoul]

Hahaha, em pretenduje, em je kao... LOL.

promakao ti je deo gde kažem 'kvazi'!  

[milan]

Eh, a po prvim najavama ovo je trebalo da bude kao neki lavkraftovski bog prvenac, hence, pominjanje Gula u naslovu topika...

Licno, crtez ne mora da znaci da ce ovo biti lose. Ono sto me brine jeste da sam negde procitao da je onaj verite pristup zapravo napravljen samo za trejler, i da ce sam film biti "normalno" snimljen.

Abrams je rekao da je, dok je bio u poseti Japanu, shvatio koliko je Gojira tamo huge, i to ga je inspirisalo da smisli jedno slicno americko cudoviste. Veliki kit se zapravo uklapa u onu pricu sa viral sajta vezanog za ovaj film o onom japanskom picu, i devojcici koja je pronasla missing ingredient kojim je svom obicnom soku dala poseban ukus, a zatim je zauvek nestala na dnu mora. Devojcicu su drugovi zvali "Mali kit".

[milan]

Dakle, izgleda da se ispostavilo da je onaj crtez neka namestaljka ili neka vrsta fan-arta, mada je meni bio okej... Evo javljaju na AICNu...

A Quick (And Very Cool) Inference/Notion/Implication Regarding The Creature FX For CLOVERFIELD?!?!


Merrick here...


This message pretty much speaks for itself.

While, clearly, this involves a touch of supposition and inference...the implication makes a lot of sense given JJ Abrams' level of overall Geekiness.

   I was at ADAPT2007 in Montreal today (a fair where high-profile people come and speak about their work on movies, games and television) and Phil Tippett's (from Star Wars, Starship Troppers and Robocop fame to name a few) Tippet Studios are working on a very big hush-hush project with J.J. Abrams which he wouldn't name.

   Since he mostly does creatures, could it be something for that untitled JJ movie coming soon? Considering Tippett's track record for creature design and animation, I think we'll be in for a treat!

   If you use this, call me Fronsac

I love Tippett's work & really hope this pans out. Wonder if this means we'll get a hybrid of effects types as opposed to entirely CGI? Could be a lot of fun; this often garners the best results & completely matches the "old fashioned monster movie" nature of the film we've been hearing allusions to.

More to come as more comes in...

[Plissken]

Meni se bas dopao onaj procureli crtez. Zivotinja mi stvarno deluje strasno. Vise bih voleo da na kraju ispadne neka mrcina  nalik kitu nego neko visesegmento arahnoidno-lignjoliko bice...

[milan]

Pustaju novi trejler ispred Beovulfa - i izgleda da se film, ipak, zove Cloverfield...

Sada je jasno da onaj prvi trejler nije bio gimik, odnosno, da je ceo film Bler Vich mits Godzila. Sto moze da bude veoma interesantno.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34800

[milan]

Evo i jednog od prvih rivjua na AICNu...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35100

[Ghoul]

PREMIJERA SF FILMA "CLOVERFIELD" 14. FEBRUARA
   
Distributerska kuća Taramaunt je, za januar i februar, najavila nekoliko premijera filmova među kojima je i naučno-fantastični film "Cloverfield", reditelja Meta Rivsa. On će svoju američku premijeru imati 18. januara a kod nas će se naći 14. februara. To je priča o čudovištu koje napada Nujork, ispričana kroz doživljaj i viđenje grupe očevidaca.

[Tex Murphy]

To baš ne obećava jer je taj Met Rivs napisao i režirao THE PALLBEARER sa Dejvidom Švimerom, jednu od najdosadnijih i najzamornijih "komedija" ever.

[milan]

Hari sa AICNa je pogledao film...

Harry knows what CLOVERFIELD is!!!

Utterly Brilliant.

What is CLOVERFIELD?

For the past year or so, that's been the question that everyone has been asking. Well... they also wanted to know: What was that trailer? What's the name of this movie? Who are those actors? What is a SLUSHO? What does any of this mean?

Having seen the film, I can tell you – I have completely forgotten the marketing. I no longer care why the film is titled CLOVERFIELD, I don't think it has a secret meaning – other than the fact that the movie that the marketing would lead you to, if it will... will knock your cinema-going mind into the floor of the theater.

CLOVERFIELD is a bold genre-reinvention unlike anything we've ever seen before.

The basic premise that we know is there. The film is found footage, not an assembled film. The footage is recovered in Central Park. From trailers and ads you know that it probably starts at a party, something happens, and we think there is a giant monster. You're pretty sure there's a giant monster attacking New York City... specifically Manhattan.

Well, I've just come home from watching CLOVERFIELD. The security on me and my wife for seeing this movie was un-frickin-believable. I suppose some would have the temptation to snap a pic of the monster and send it out online to end, forever, the "mystery" – but folks... there's no mystery.

The movie is fucking brilliant. It's what we were told it was going to be. An intimate perspective on an impossibly grand scale human disaster beyond most human levels of comprehension.

What is the monster? How do you describe something that doesn't look like anything you've ever seen before? It's not a fucking upright walking whale. It doesn't look like any iteration of GODZILLA that we've ever seen. It is enormous. And even though I've seen it... I am hard-pressed to come up with a comparative creation. You know that big fucking thing in THE MIST? It isn't that. Is the creature a biped? I'm not sure, I think it might've been a four-legged beastie... it has a tail, it has teeth and freaky eyes like that horse that died in ANIMAL HOUSE. It's kinda of a grayish-yellowish-off-white looking thing. But more important than the creature is what this fucker does. He basically goes bug-nuts.

The creature isn't the groundbreaking thing about the film. It is, but it isn't.

You see, what has me so excited about this film is that this is the giant monster movie that isn't at all like any giant monster movie we've seen before... but is exactly that movie.

I guarantee you that as this movie takes place... all the shit that you've seen in Giant monster movies is happening. Somewhere a general is screaming about nuking New York.... Somewhere is a politician screaming that you can't nuke New York. Another General wants to know why our weapons are not affecting this thing. A PRESIDENT wants to know where it came from – and several thousand journalist are trying to figure all that out too.

But this film isn't about the scientist, the generals, the Presidents, the mayors or any of the big people. This time, the film is from the perspective of those people that live in those buildings that the monster is breaking through. This is about the people running in the street that scream, "GODZILLA!!!" and run. This is about trying to survive that insanity. Not just that, but to try and save one life.

Like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, but instead of Nazis it's a giant monster.

This is a handheld camera movie – knowing this and knowing not to sit too close is probably a good thing... but having said that... you can't sit far enough from the screen to feel safe. As many of you people know, I am in a wheelchair – and while watching movies, I have my brakes on. There was one moment, so unexpected and so intense that I went 3 ft back.

What about the characters?

You learn everything you need about them in the first 20 minutes. Rob is going to Japan to a new job. He has a brother Jason and a best friend Hud who gets strapped with filming testimonials at his surprise party – but Hud has the hots for Marlena and got talked into it by Jason – who was told to do it by Lily, who loves him. Oh – and they're taping over a tape that Rob shot of the morning after he and Beth finally did it – after being friends forever. But now he has to go to Japan for his career and Beth shows up with some dick at his party because he didn't know how to talk with her after they had sex.

It's a fairly real situation that could happen to anyone. These are just regular good people in the rat race – and trying to have a good time. When the shit goes down.

I wasn't expecting to like any of the characters. That changes... a lot.

My favorite character? Probably Hud... our cameraman. He's not a professional photographer, though this "tape" tells an incredibly focused and direct story of epic sweep and filled with intimate reveals. But HUD is "the best friend". But if I could compare him to any character actor, I'd say he's like a reigned in Bill Paxton. He's not going around screaming obscenities... but the shit that comes out of his mouth cracks me up.

The story of this film is actually beautiful though. When the world goes to fuck, you instantly think about the person you love that you don't know is OK or not. That's this story. Beth left Rob's party before the shit went down. They had a fight. When it all goes to hell – Rob and his friends are just trying to get off the island, when a call comes... Beth is somewhere... she can't move, she's bleeding and she needs help. And oddly... 911 is busy.

This group of friends sets off through the biggest sort of hell you can imagine to save Beth. Characters die. Shit goes horribly horribly wrong – and it rules!

There's no score, there's no rules, there feels like there's no script and no movie. It feels found, but it is so huge that you can't ever really believe that... but handheld film just has never had a story of something this fantastical or huge happen. The movie is a landmark genre film. A true milestone in film.

It is all at once art, commercial and grotesquely gleefully gargantuan.

This frankly launches two giant film careers at once. As of this second, I will see and eagerly anticipate every film that J.J. Abrams produces. This sort of stepping back from a genre convention and reinvention is EXACTLY what needs to be done. It isn't simply going, "Oh, I can make a better Godzilla movie," but the audacity of saying I'm going to tell that story from one of the most loathed film approaches – the found footage – and simply make the most fucking amazing found tape ever. It won't just be what it is, but the characters and the story and the emotion and the scope and the journey that the tape takes us on. I can't wait to see what's next.

Then there's Matt Reeves, I don't know this guy. But I'll tell you what. You're gonna mark his name after this. He just came out with a film about as SUNDANCE as you could imagine. This is like an INDIE film – that you'd dream Spielberg would make. Remember the beard's WAR OF THE WORLDS? Now just imagine that, but with the disarming nature of handheld photography. Where if the camera got dropped and suddenly you're looking the other way... you don't see the seams. There's no backlot, this isn't two blocks at a time... it's fucking Manhattan being torn to fuck and they're just smack dab in midtown and midtown has giant lice monsters and some monstrously huge creature... and then there's the fucking military... and they are on target, and buildings get hit, shit is going everywhere – and the man directing this apocalypse is Matt Reeves and the planning to just deliver what this spectacle is – is daunting. But sir, BRAVO!

Folks – CLOVERFIELD is worth the obsession, worth the months I've had to put up with fans wondering what the hell it was – worth having to deal with reporters asking me what it was – and I didn't know either. This is a towering movie. A complete reinvention of the disaster movie, the giant monster movie and even the love story. I absolutely love this film and the only thought I had when it was over was how I wanted to watch it 5 more times today.

I want to see the details, I want to watch this film once I'm so familiar with it that I can appreciate the complexity of the frames and the shots. To try to pull the film apart – but I don't think you'll be able to. It is just that fucking good! And the flaming hobos... holy fuck man... flaming hobos, but not with shotguns!

Good Bad Robot, Good Bad Robot!!!

[Ghoul]

nevidljivi javlja:

"CLOVERFIELD" U STER CINEMAS OD 24. JANUARA   

Iz distributerske kuće Taramount je stiglo obaveštenje koje razvejava sve nedoumice koje smo imali oko toga kada će se održati premijera filma "Cloverfiled". Ovo najnovije SF ostvarenje Džej Džej Abramsa (serija "Lost") je pravljen u stilu dokumentarca, a jedan od aktera filma beleži kompletnu katastrofu - napad čudovišta na Njujork, noseći kameru sve vreme. Nešto što će mnoge podsetiti na čuveni lažni dokumentarac "Projekat: Veštica iz Blera".
Film "Cloverfield" će imati period specijalnih projekcija od 24. januara u Ster Cinemas u Delta sitiju, dok će na redovnom bioskopskom repertoaru biti od 14. februara.



     

[Jake Chambers]

Oh yeah, taman prilika da se overi Ster...  

[Tex Murphy]

Ne mogu da vjerujem da neko nešto očekuje od filma koji režira Met Rivs. To je suludo.

[Ghoul]

FRONTAL MONSTER NUDITY U CLOVERFILDU!!!  



ovo su vaške na telu džinovskog kitolikog monstruma, vidi gornju sliku...

ps: da, svi panovi su, kao i uvek, intended!

[milan]

Wyrm sa AICNa... (ovaj hajp mi sada toliko podize ocekivanja da ce me film na kraju verovatno razocarati...)


Massawyrm Goes Seven Different Kinds Of Ape$#*% Over CLOVERFIELD!!



Hola all. Massawyrm here.

The wait is finally over. After 6 solid months of courting us through one of the most wildly unique, well constructed viral campaigns ever executed, Cloverfield is at last being unleashed upon audiences. And sitting there in the theatre is something akin to seeing your girlfriend naked for the very first time. I mean, there's been an awful lot of build up. A lot of teasing, groping and even the hint of a nipple slip with a glimpse of something peeking out from behind a building in the trailer. But can it live up to the hype? Can that ass live up to how it looks in those perfectly crafted jeans? Will it be perky and firm and exceed your every hope? Or sag in all the wrong places? The moments before the bra strap is finally unclasped are unbearable. This could be the greatest night of your life, or another sad, flaccid night of broken promises.

Anyone who has ever dated a girl with inverted nipples knows exactly the type of profound disappointment I'm talking about.

Fortunately, Cloverfield delivers on all counts, proving to be a remarkably original film unlike anything you've ever seen before. Oh, I know you THINK you've seen this all before. You've seen The Blair Witch Project and you've seen Godzilla and you've seen War of the Worlds. So how could something so derivative of these three movies be in anyway new? Because I fucking said so. That, and well, because you've never seen anything like it.

We do a lot of daydreaming here at AICN. I mean A LOT of daydreaming. When we get together and pop open a few beers, conversation often tends to turn towards the weird shit that movies inspire us to think about. Especially after we've just seen a crappy movie. We LOVE to talk about what would have made it better, stronger, faster. This is especially prevalent during the summer when big budget extravaganzas are often handed to studio tools or unimaginative directors who are better at greasing palms than they are making films. And we often wonder aloud what would happen if they gave those movies, those budgets, those marketing campaigns...to someone who actually gives a shit. Someone with the vision to make a movie so smart that it plays to everyone without subscribing to lowest common denominator theory. Something like Cloverfield.

Cloverfield is that movie you just can't fully understand until you've seen it for yourself. It's something akin to an episode of Gossip Girl being interrupted by a James Cameron movie, except rather than following the heroes - the great saviors of New York City - we're watching the side movie about what happens to these kids being directed by Paul Greengrass. It is the film that pisses in the face of Dogme 95 and says very sternly We sure as hell can tell a very human story with science fiction, assholes. It's the story we always wonder about. What's it like not to be in the center of a great story, but just trying to survive on the outskirts of it. This isn't the movie about Ripley - this is the movie between Alien and Aliens about Newt and her family trying to survive the first infestation. That's the kind of cool this is. We've all seen the giant monster movie. We've all seen New York City destroyed at least a dozen times. What we haven't seen is a film about you or me or those half-witted friends of ours at the party and how we react and try to survive when all hell breaks loose. That's Cloverfield.

What you also haven't seen is a found footage film told with this level of sophistication. I'm not talking about the budget, I mean the attention to detail, pacing and cinematography. Every moment in this film is carefully planned, wonderfully crafted and perfectly executed. This isn't a bunch of people talking to the camera filling out time between interesting scenes. There isn't a single moment when you think get on with it already. Yes, it is shot on a handheld camera being carried around by one of the characters – but director Matt Reeves never uses that as an excuse to skimp on the storytelling. Every bit of party footage at the beginning is exposition – and once that gets as far as it can go, there's a terrible explosion. From then on it is a taut, breakneck, breathless race through a city being torn apart by a story much larger than our characters. And yet, you never want to leave them for a minute. Fuck the army. Fuck longshots of a monster destroying the city and the jets it swats from the sky. You want to know if Rob ever finds his Beth. If he ever gets to say "I love you." And you've got to know if she really loves him back.

Surprisingly, it isn't the effects or the action or the mayhem that dominates Cloverfield. It is the characters and their plight to find their friend. It's personal. It's close to your heart. And god damnit if you can't identify with it. There are also very clear and deliberate parallels to 9/11 that lends the film power and profound imagery. This is the first post-9/11 big budget action film to really draw upon the intense feelings of anxiousness and fear inherent in our society now, the first film to dare stroke the wound without trying to pay tribute or weave propaganda. When the monster knocks down a building, it isn't slow motion concrete tumbling then shattering on the earth below. It is with a powerful cloud of dust and glass sweeping over crowds like a sandstorm, leaving in its wake a throng of victims dazed, choking, and coughing up blood. You aren't watching this from on high, you are down in the shit when the shit is at its worst.

And yet, the bigger than life stuff is REALLY BIGGER THAN LIFE. You have no idea what the monster looks like. No. I know you think you know what the monster looks like. But you don't. The first moment you see it, watch its head come roaring from behind a skyscraper, you don't think oh, that looks cool. You reel back in your chair, your eyes and mouth equally wide, wondering WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK IS THAT???? In fact, I dare you to try to describe it to your friends afterward. Ask a friend to describe it to you. It's almost Lovecraftian in its complete inability to be depicted with words. Madness. Madness collected from the nightmares of children then coalesced and shat out the ass end of hell, that's what the fuck it is. And it's big.

Cloverfield is a survival horror film about normal people trying desperately to survive a crisis over which they have zero control. It is terrifying, thrilling and easily on par with the very best this genre has ever had to offer. It is up there with Godzilla, up there with the first two Alien films, up there with Dawn of the Dead and Jaws, with The Matrix and Blade Runner - it stands toe to fucking toe with everything we hold sacrosanct in this genre. And I dare anyone to tell me different once they've experienced it for themselves.

For months one thought has troubled me about this film. If it's supposed to be so fucking good, why the fuck are they releasing it in January? Now I know. Because this isn't for the summer blockbuster crowd. This film is too heavy for them. It is the summer blockbuster for people who fucking hate summer blockbusters. But it's also smart enough, sweet enough and good enough to play to them. It's a simple story of love and survival in the face of the most dire of circumstances. It plays to pretty much everybody. But it's made for us.

And the best part – while the story is complete, and you don't for a moment feel short changed or cheated by what you don't see, it is left open enough that if this is a success, there is no reason for Paramount to make not a sequel...but a companion film. This film isn't about the monster. It doesn't need to be. But they could make one. And they could do it without doing disservice to the glory that is Cloverfield. If you read AICN with even the loosest of regularity, this film is not simply recommended, it is REQUIRED VIEWING. For years we have pondered, we have ranted and we have screamed. Matt Reeves listened, and he directed the film you guys have been bitching about since the inception of this site.

Now, go see about that naked girlfriend thing. I've seen her, and I'm telling you you're about to have the night of your life.

Until next time friends, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

Massawyrm

[Ghoul]

fangoria je prilično blagonaklona, trojka kao ocena,

It can be said right off the bat that the movie succeeds?often very well?on its own terms. Does it live up to the hype? Not quite, but like its cinematic cousin THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT, there?s almost no way that it could. Yet as an experiment in what could best be called YouTube Generation filmmaking, it works, creating an often terrifying, gripping and oddly intimate portrait of catastrophic events
itd.

a variety je još suzdržaniji:
But "Cloverfield" turns out to be less "24" and more "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms," becoming increasingly comfortable, even reassuring the more you see the actual perpetrator. Nasty as the critter is -- and it does seem to unleash eons' worth of hatred for humanity, although its origins are unspecified -- its very nature as a walking, stalking being suggests it can somehow be killed by conventional means.

So while the film is cleverly and resourcefully made (allegedly for a mere $25 million), as well as both tense and intense, it doesn't provoke sheer terror and never pushes things to the point where you want to look away. Pic aims for a level of emotional involvement, but the characters here have no more substance than they ever do in films constructed around a group of disposable nonentities meant to be methodically reduced in number by a bloodthirsty behemoth.

...

malko mi zabrinjavajuće zvuči ovaj DETALJ:
Picture proper only runs 73 minutes, while the end credits crawl up the screen in what seems like slow motion for 12 minutes to eke out a total running time of 85 minutes.

[crippled_avenger]

http://www.24sata.co.yu/vodic.php?id=19234

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...zarada za petak - 16.75 miliona USD...

[milan]

Vikend - preko 40 miliona, sto je najveca januarska zarada, valjda u istoriji. Ovo, naravno, ne znaci da je film dobar ali...
POLUDECU DOK DODJE KOD NAS U JEBENE BIOSKOPEEE!!!!

[Djole]

Imaš CAM snimak na torrentima - a nekako je logično ovaj film gledati na lošem kamera snimku.  

Enivej, lično mi je hajlajt "We have a bite!" scena, mada i ostalo ima svoji momenata, ali i svojih smaranja.

[lenny]

@milan

navodno ce krenuti vec ovog petka, ali samo u delta sitiju. Kao limited, a regularna distribucija treba da krene 14.2.

[crippled_avenger]

Juče mi se javio Pera Jakonić, naš poznati montažer, potpuno je odlepio na film!

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

STER SITI SINEMA
220-3400

Zlatni kompas    • 11.10 • 13.30 • 19.10 •
Nacionalno blago: knjiga tajni    • 11.30 • 14 • 17 • 19.50 • 22.20 •
Američki gangster    • 12.10 • 16 • 21.30 •
Pčelac Beri Medić    • 12.30 • 14.30 •
Alvin i veverica    • 12.20 • 14.20 • 16.20 •
Cloverfield    • 12.50 • 15.40 • 17.50 • 20.10 • 22.10 • 24 •
Bratz šminkerke    • 16.30 • 18.40 •
Osmi putnik protiv predatora - rekvijem    • 20.50 • 22.40 •
88 minuta    • 18.20 • 20.30 • 22.50 •
Ja sam legenda    • 17.20 • 21.40 •

[crippled_avenger]

http://dobanevinosti.blogspot.com/2008/01/ajmo-u-bioskop.html

[milan]

"Taj film je snimljen prema scenariju Drua Godarda i govori o mladim ljudima poraženim i izgubljenim u Njujorku tokom prve decenije 21. veka."

Ovo je super!!!

[Alexdelarge]

PREMIJERA SF FILMA "CLOVERFIELD" 14. FEBRUARA
   
Distributerska kuća Taramaunt je, za januar i februar, najavila nekoliko premijera filmova među kojima je i naučno-fantastični film "Cloverfield", reditelja Meta Rivsa. On će svoju američku premijeru imati 18. januara a kod nas će se naći 14. februara. To je priča o čudovištu koje napada Nujork, ispričana kroz doživljaj i viđenje grupe očevidaca.

Gledaoci povraćaju na projekcijama filma "Kloverfild"

Mnogobrojni gledaoci filma "Kloverfild", trenutno najgledanijeg u SAD, dobili su mučninu zbog specijalnog načina snimanja, piše "Lod Anđeles tajms".

Film prati grupu mladih koji pokušavaju da pobegnu od džinovskog reptila koji je napao Njujork. Snimljen je kamerom sa ramena, kako bi gledaoci imali utisak da su direktno uključeni u akciju. Tehnika je, međutim, za neke isuviše dobro funkcionisala, navodi list.
"Zaista mi je pozlilo, tamo u sali, sačekajte me", izjavila je "L.A. tajmsu" jedna gledateljka koja je izašla sa projekcije da bi povraćala.
Drugi gledalac je novinaru rekao da mu je, iako su prošla 24 sata od kako je gledao "Kloverfild", i dalje muka. "Sve se stalno mrda. Moj mozak je pokušao da izdrži sok, ali nije uspeo. Imam strašnu migrenu", naveo je.

[crippled_avenger]

Pogledao sam CLOVERFIELD i mogu reći da ne treba da verujete u hype.

Film je žestok promašaj i u njemu nema ni jedna desetina onoga što štampa obećava. REC je neuporedivo bolji film iako je sigurno višestruko jeftiniji.

CLOVERFIELD je promašaj na svim nivoima.

Na nivou scenarija i ideje, ovo je priča o nezanimljivim karakterima, čije je konstantno snimanje kamerom APSOLUTNO NEMOTIVISANO, koji se prave da su realistični i radi tog realizma beskrajno razglabaju neke prilično banalne ljubavne probleme, a ponašaju se kao najtipičniji movie heroji koji su skloni iracionalnim izlivima heroizma.

Stoga, CLOVERFIELD ne uspeva da bude zanimljiv na nivou priče i karaktera. Štaviše, čini mi se da je čitava inovacija sa pseudodokumentarizmom koja je uvedena u monster movie koncept potpuno protraćena pošto se film na kraju povije pod klišeima.

Međutim, film ni tehnički nije zanimljiv. Naime, veći deo vremena apsolutno nije jasno o čemu se radi i šta se zbiva u kadru. Za razliku od RECa u kome ne znam dijaloge a sve mi je jasno, CLOVERFIELD mi ne bi bio jasan da ne poznajem jezik.

Pored krajnje mutnog proizvoda u kadrovima, u slici, CLOVERFIELD čak ne uspeva ni da dosledno izgura svoj pseuddokumentarni koncept pošto su rezovi očigledni, vidljivi, neskriveni, za razliku od REC gde su sekvence zaista unbroken. CLOVERFIELD vrvi od vidljivih rezova i filmskih elipsi, i praktično nema nijedan shot u kome se vidi prostor od 360 stepeni oko kamere što bi trebalo da bude tehnički adut filma.

Konačno, sam monstrum je prilično tanak, kao neka gigantska verzija Goluma/Grendela, koja iz sebe izbacuje umanjene bube iz STARSHIP TROOPERSa koje su gadne ali ne i odveć opasne. Iako se uvodi motiv da je ugriz bube infektivan i opasan, ne znamo tačno šta se desi.

Dakle, CLOVERFIELD je slično BLAIR WITCHu sam, čist hype, s tim što je BLAIR WITH bio bullshit sa razlogom zbog mikrobudžeta, a ovo je high budget bullshit koji čak nije sposoban da na elementarnom nivou ispoštuje vlastiti koncept.

Sva sreća da sam imao mobilni kod sebe tako da su me SMSovi spasili da ne zaspem.

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[milan]

Ja nemam ovako nepovoljan utisak o filmu, mada je jedan od problema bila i veoma losa projekcija u STER CINEMAS. Posto sam prosle nedelje u istom bioskopu, ali u drugoj sali, gledao NACIONALNO BLAGO 2, koji je imao slican problem sa ostrinom - shvatio sam da nesto nije uradjeno kako treba prilikom gradnje ovih  sala. Jedan moj kolega koji je prosle nedelje gledao JA SAM LEGENDA, ima isti utisak, tako da su, na zalost, ovi bioskopi pored sve udobnosti i velicine, zapravo slabijih projekcija od Rode, pa cak i Takvuda.

Sto se samog filma tice, stvar koja mi najvise smeta jeste (ne)motivisanost jednog od junaka da snima sve oko sebe kamerom, i da i u nekim najuzasnijim trenucima, ne gasi kameru. Da je lik bio neki, sta znam, profesionalni snimatelj ili nesto slicno, nekako bih i razumeo to, ali ovako, on je tip kojeg uhvate gotovo preko volje da snima zurku kojom film pocinje.

Ono sto nedostaje filmu je nekako veca raznovrsnost situacija -  ovde se sve svede na trcanje i bezanje, i mislim da bi dozivljaj bio bogatiji da je bilo vise detalja kao sto je napustena kocija koja luta ulicama, ili uzasa koji ih napadaju u metrou.

Licno, hajlajt filma je scena u kojoj se junaci nadju izmedju vojske koja nadire, i stvora.

U svakom slucaju, pogledacu film jos jednom, ili u boljem bioskopu, ili na DVDu.

[crippled_avenger]

Da te nisam video onako izmrcvarenog posle filma, pomislio bih da ti se možda film zaista dopao. Međutim, pošto smo film gledali zajedno...

Ono što je neporeciv problem filma jeste nesposobnost reditelja da ga učini funkcionalnim u okvirima vlastitih propozicija. I mislim da je to nedopustivo. CLOVERFIELD je film koji podvala, i to nevešta podvala, čak i da je sve u njemu dobro, on bi zbog rezova unutar kontinuiranih snimaka bio osporen.

Ali, čak ni ono što je u tom izrezanom materijalu nije dobro.

Problem s ovim filmom je u tome što je sve oko njega jako dobro osmišljeno. Kladim se da će bonusi na DVDu biti bolji od samog filma.

[WARLOCK]

Cloverfield je ok,sasvim zadovoljavajuci vredi otici u bioskop..bilo je par momenta da skoknes,dopalo mi se cudoviste nije mi smetalo oni rezovi u filmu,ne bi bilo smisla da se snimi sve vreme u jednom kadru..mora da bude rezova,menja se baterija,zatim traka,odes u wc,malo prdnes i itd..

[Jake Chambers]

Hm... ja ga gledah sad u Ster Cinemas i ne primetih da slika nije oštra...
No, dopao mi se film. Slažem se za motivisanost/nemotivisanost snimatelja, ali koga boli kurac, ovo nije velika tajna života na filmu, ovo je ono gledaš i zabaviš se. Efekti su mi se mnogo dopali, i stvarno izgledaju kao da su fizički odrađeni... sve u svemu, veliki hajp, i ok film. Mada ja mrzim ove pseudodokumentarne, ali Cloverfield mi je mnogo bolji od Veštice iz Blera...

[Milosh]

Meni se film uglavnom svideo ili bolje reći na mene je "delovao". Naime, ovde je kičma filma zasnovana na jednom konceptu koji ako se ne proguta u startu, teško da će se film posle iskupiti na detaljima i onda će nekome do kraja biti dosadno, konfuzno... S druge strane, onaj koga film uvuče od samog početka može da očekuje uzbudljivu "vožnju". Kloverfild nije nešto zahvalan za analizu jer nema puno toga da se analizira osim samog koncepta i njegovog sprovođenja, tako da se ovde suština zaista može svesti na lični utisak i to kako kome film "legne". Koliko čitam po netu većina je ipak razočarana filmom (neki su baš gnevni), i zanimljivo je da se mnogi žale na stvari koje suštinski određuju Kloverfild tj. na sam koncept i bez čega ne bi ni bilo filma u ovom obliku. Moguće da je marketing mnoge naveo na pogrešan trag i nerealno podigao očekivanja.

http://www.popboks.com/tekst.php?ID=6214

[Jake Chambers]

Ja ga gledah ponovo i sad mi se sviđa više. Više o tome (valjda) u Emitoru.

[Ugly MF]

i meni se svidja...i nije mi bilo muka i nije me bolela glava

ali ne volem takve filmove...ja ni vesticu iz blera nisam gledo...
mada ovaj nije lose za imati u kolekciji pored independence day after tommorow itd...

[Jake Chambers]

Hahahaha ti si kao ja... jednostavno uživaš u slikama uništavanja Njujorka      

[Ugly MF]

Hahahaha ti si kao ja... jednostavno uživaš u slikama uništavanja Njujorka      

Joj,pa to mi je onako ...
odmah mi toplo oko srca,nema boljeg grejanja u ove zimske dane!!

(sreca sto oni sa kojima se dopisujem odatle ne znaju ni rec Srpskog!)

To mi nekako jos od Escape from NY 1997,
onako milina,pa svi ti diiivni R,Emmerich filmovi..
sad mi pade napamet!

Upalim ja ONOG dana televiziju sasvim slucajno(inace je ne gledam,prestao sam kad su ukinuli pornice... )
kad vidim gori jedan Twin Tower...dimi se,,,BBC,koj li je vec kanal, i ne secam se ko je bio tu,secam se samo komentara svoga:
(nesto kao)-U,vidi al ovi Ameri opet snimaju neki do jaja film!

i kao zavalim se u fotelju da vidim i ugledam drugi avion udara!!!
Mislim da je bilo LIVE ,a ja sam tek posle jos par ovacija i pizdenja sto ne vidim ko je reziser i glumci ukapirao sta gledam!

Sto ti je strast prema zanru,si vido?

[Jake Chambers]

Hahahaha ja sam tog dana spremao prijemni i gledao neki kviz na nemačkom RTL, kad ga prekinuše i dok je ovaj pričao o "nesreći", iza njega tamo na live prenosu FOX newsa vidiš kako drugi avion doleće  

[Ugly MF]

HEHE!!!

Znaci obojica smo imali premijeru Uzivo!!!!

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...do pre nekoliko sati nisam ni znao da ovaj film uošte i postoje, upravo finiširam skidanje, ali me asociralo na osnovnu začkoljicu u CLOVERFIELDu kada sam pročitao da je ovaj film (nasatao 2-3 godine ranije) urađen tako da predstavlja snimak iz priručne policijske kamerte, te pomislih da li su se to momci iz više lige, makar na planu početne ideje, napili vode sa izvora retko kada uspešnog udarnika Alberta Pyuna (Cyborg, Ticker...)

...naslov o kome je reč je iz 2005. godine i zove se INVASION a.k.a. INFECTION

... http://imdb.com/title/tt0472465/

[Truba]

šta Gulo misli o Kloverfildu  

[Ghoul]

šta Gulo misli o Kloverfildu  

videću kad ga vidim.

[Truba]

pretpostavljam da imas kakav veliki TV kući ali preporučujem kino

meni baš leži takav način snimanja filma... BWP CH i tome slično
jedva čekam REC i još neke...

[Tex Murphy]

Ovo je IZVANREDAN film. Svako ko tvrdi suprotno nije Srbin.

Uglavnom, kad sam film pogledao prvi put (na DVD-u, ne pretjerano kvalitetan snimak), nisam bio pretjerano impresioniran, bilo mi je dosadno prvih petnaestak minuta, nisam uspio da provalim ko je dođavola ko (prokleti bijelci, svi liče međusobno), poslije se slabo vidjelo i tome slično. Stoga sam bio fer i odlučio da sačuvam konačni sud za nakon gledanja u normalnim uslovima (čitaj: bioskop ili bar kvalitetan DVD snimak) i to se konačno desilo večeras.

Dakle, prvo taksativno nabrajamo ono što mi se ne sviđa. A to je NIŠTA.

Ono što mi se sviđa jeste, generalno, što su autori imali odličan koncept i što su se tog koncepta čvrsto držali, ne dozvoljavajući sebi neuke improvizacije kao npr. objašnjavanje porijekla čudovišta (fuj!), razvoj likova (takođe fuj!) i tome slično. Čitav film jeste, kao što je Miloš napisao u svom revijevu, o tome kako grupa likova hoće da stigne od tačke A do tačke B, kroz ensuing chaos. Dakle, kao da je neko uzeo npr. scenu sa napadom monstruma iz Hosta i od toga napravio čitav film. Što je SJAJNO! Ta scena napada je najbolja u tom filmu. I ono što je lijepo jeste što film fantastično uspijeva u stvaranju atmosfere. Kao i 10000BC, koji nas svojim sjajnim izgledom baca u daleku prošlost, tako nas Kloverfild šalje usred napada monstruoznog čudovišta. U početku sam mislio da je prvih petnaest minuta dosadno, ali sad mislim da i to ima svoju svrhu. Naime, ne samo da smo se malčice upoznali sa likovima (srećom, ne previše), nego na početku ima i mali nipple slip (I think). Takođe, tih petnaestak minuta nam treba taman da se uživimo u normalnu atmosferu prosječne oproštajne zabave, samo da bi se odjednom desio onaj nestanak struje i nastupio haos. E od tog trenutka, ovaj film je ludački zanimljiv i realno gledano, šije Hosta za bar tri dužine, a isto važi i za slične scene iz Children of Men. Poređenje sa Blair Witch Projectom (i Cannibal Holocaustom) po meni je potpuno neumjesno jer su u pitanju sasvim različiti filmovi. Ko što rekoh, Kloverfild je najbolje porediti sa Hostom.

Naravno, kad imamo ovako jednoličnu priču, jasno je da je izgled filma ključan, a tu on blista punim sjajem. Zgrade koje se ruše, čudovište koje bljesne na trenutak tu i tamo (mada, cjepidlake će sigurno zamjeriti što svaki put kad kamera slučajno uhvati čudovište, snimatelj odmah skreće na drugu stranu iako bi logično bilo da se zadrži na monstrumu i proba što bolje da ga uhvati), pa onda teška artiljerija i tome slično. A kao dodatak tu su i one uslovno rečeno "sitnije" kreature čiji ujedi izazivaju jezive posljedice, što je još jedna stvar koja je samo ovlaš dodirnuta, a sigurno će biti detaljnije razmotrena u nastavku ovog filma. All in all, meni je ovo bilo prekrasno iskustvo, uživao sam u svakoj sekundi filma (sticajem okolnosti, čak ni likovi mi nisu bili antipatični) i jedva čekam slična ostvarenja koja neumitno slijede. Meta Rivsa za predsjednika!!!

[Tex Murphy]

Naravno, potpuno sam zaboravio da spomenem raidovanje prodavnice tehničke opreme