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Cormac McCarthy's THE ROAD

Started by Ghoul, 16-01-2008, 03:58:20

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Ghoul

evo topika i za knjigu (nedavno izašlu na srpskom) i za film u najavi:


Charlize Theron has signed on to join Viggo Mortensen in the bigscreen adaptation of Cormac McCarthy's bestselling novel The Road for 2929 Entertainment, according to Variety who also revealed that Dimension Films will distribute domestically. The story centers on a man who embarks on a nightmarish road trip after a nuclear explosion in an attempt to transport his son to safety while fending off cannibals. Aussie helmer John Hillcoat (The Proposition) is directing from a screenplay by Joe Penhall. Theron, who will play the wife of Mortensen's character, will be seen mostly in flashback. Shooting is set to begin next month.
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zakk

Sad me teraš da prebacujem ovo na SF, pa da onda ispadnem grbav?  :!:
tsk tsk tsk  :wink:
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Tex Murphy

Sjajno! Proposition je krasan film, a ovde radnja obećava. Još ako ubace muziku Nika Kejva, veselju nikad kraja.
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zakk

Quote from: "Harvester"Sjajno! Proposition je krasan film, a ovde radnja obećava. Još ako ubace muziku Nika Kejva, veselju nikad kraja.
bolje Nil Jang, sa raštimovanim ili čudno naštimovanim gitarama i kamionima koji kreću u rikverc...
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Tex Murphy

Quote from: "zakk"
Quote from: "Harvester"Sjajno! Proposition je krasan film, a ovde radnja obećava. Još ako ubace muziku Nika Kejva, veselju nikad kraja.
bolje Nil Jang, sa raštimovanim ili čudno naštimovanim gitarama i kamionima koji kreću u rikverc...

Može i to. Volim Nila Janga i njegov prljav stil sviranja gitare. Naravno, podrazumijeva se Crazy Horse kao pratnja.
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Alexdelarge

U vezi sa vestackom nestasicom ove knjige  koju ovde neki neodgovorni pojedinci izazivaju potresajuci iz temelja beogradsko trziste knjiga
http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/viewtopic.php?t=4519&start=25

Dakle, u Kinez Mihailovoj u knjizari Akademija ima veliki broj primeraka ove knjige po ceni nesto nizoj od 600 din.
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

Kastor

Neodgovorne pojedince je izgleda platio izdavač (uplata još nije stigla, očekujemo je).  :lol:
Uzmi u obzir da je tiraž 1500 primeraka, trebalo bi da je ima i kod kolportera. I dalje tvrdim da je distribucija slaba (to u Akademiji su neki novi momenti).
"if you're out there murdering people, on some level, you must want to be Christian."

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Kastor

Da, zaboravio sam da pitam, da li se zna ko su gosti iz izdavačke kuće?
"if you're out there murdering people, on some level, you must want to be Christian."

Milosh

"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Ghoul

Quote from: "Milosh"http://www.popboks.com/tekst.php?ID=6366

vala, od koga je, ovo je iznenađujuće solidan text! :shock:  :?
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Meho Krljic

:cry: Why can't we all just be friends???

angel011

We're all mad here.

angel011

We're all mad here.

Meho Krljic

Ali ko je razumeo, shvatiće!!!!

Ghoul

Quote from: "Meho Krljic":cry: Why can't we all just be friends???

dakle, sad se čak i moji komplimenti shvataju neprijateljski??? :shock:  :cry:
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Meho Krljic

Pa... naravno. Zar nisu tako i zamišljeni?

Milosh

Kako je ovo fenomenalna knjiga... Izgleda da će film biti prilično verna adaptacija, a sad kad sam pročitao knjigu rekao bih da izbor glavnog glumca i reditelja nije mogao biti bolji i vala očekujem da The Road ove godine bude ono što je 2006. bio Children of Men...
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Tex Murphy

Knjiga momentalno leti u korpu za kupovinu, a za film se nadamo da će ipak da bude mnogo bolji nego što prizivaš  :wink:
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cutter

jes vala, jedino sto je valjalo u deci od ljudi je kopiranje redova rajana.

mac

Jel ima neko elektronsku verziju, ili link za istu? Ja to čitam kad sam u pečalbi (što je prilično često).


mac


Milosh

"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Kunac

Ima puno Charlize Theron u trejleru... Malo su nepošteni... ;)
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Milosh

Mnogo su nepošteni, ali šta drugo da čovek i očekuje od braće Weinstein, verovatno su se mesecima premišljali šta uopšte da rade sa ovim filmom. Trejler je montiran kao da je reč o akcionom filmu, a po svemu što sam do sad pročitao reč je o izuzetno vernoj adaptaciji, tako da kapiram da će biti gomila nadrkanih retarda koji će popljuvati film nakon premijere. No, ja i dalje smatram da je izbor reditelja i glavnog glumca doslovno savršen i da će (ukoliko ne budu nešto isekli producenti) ovo biti jedan od filmova (ako ne i THE film) godine. Jedva čekam!
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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mac

Star Trek i The Road u istoj godini... Baš će nas razmaziti!

Tex Murphy

Kad će doći taj film vamo? Bojim se da neću moći da pročitam knjigu prije gledanja istog  :(
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Milosh

Quote from: Estrogen Moroder on 15-05-2009, 12:27:43
Kad će doći taj film vamo?

Premijera je u oktobru ove godine, što znači da će kod nas stići verovatno za Fest iduće godine. Pročitaj knjigu.

Nego, evo šta kaže Vern propo trejlera za The Road:

"If the movie is as good as the Esquire guy says all they gotta do is be honest. They're so good at promoting Oscar bait they got a shitty movie about a Nazi pedophile learning how to read nominated for best picture last year. And yet they have this possibly great movie and they seem to think it's PHANTOMS or some shit they gotta just dump out there and get rid of. It's infuriating.

Guess what? The people that you are trying to trick into seeing this movie will DEFINITELY say it is the worst movie they've ever seen. Because they don't want to see a sad, quiet movie about a father and son walking. That's if they go see it, which is unlikely since as a trailer for a "zombie action movie" it's not very impressive. Meanwhile, the people who would love the movie are gonna see this moronic trailer and think some asshole ruined The Road and turned it into a low budget action movie.

I'm calling Viggo for an Oscar anyway but man it's gonna be sweet when those idiots go bankrupt in a couple years and have to abandon their lifestyle of going around ruining everything."
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Tex Murphy

Ah, do oktobra možda i uspijem da pročitam.
Obično " sad, quiet movie about a father and son walking" nije moj cup of tea, ali ako dolazi od nekog ko je direktno uticao na stvaranje fantastičnog filma BEZ DRŽAVE ZA STARCA, sigurno da vrijedi ovjeriti.
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Milosh

Esquire rivju koji je izuzetno pozitivan: http://www.esquire.com/features/movies/the-road-movie-review-0609

konkretno o spornom trejleru:

"When Bob Weinstein rolls those trailers, each one assumes the predictable arc of a story compressed to its essence. There is a speed to them that the actual movie — which I saw before seeing the trailers — does not possess or seek to possess, an urgency that feels manufactured. The music is pulse-pounding and urgent, driven to create absurd expectations of action in a movie that quietly elicits worry about the relative friability of the invisible paths that exist between people and what they need...

The odd thing is, the start of each trailer includes glimpses of a storm, panicky news footage, little puzzle pieces of the world before it ended. No one — not the director or the myriad producers, not the novelist or the screenwriter — had ever even hinted at how it happened, until this."
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Ghoul

ma dal je moguće da su usrali film???!!! :(

varajeti tako kaže:

The Road
By TODD MCCARTHY
A Dimension Films release presented with 2929 Prods. of a Nick Wechsler and Chockstone Pictures production. Produced by Wechsler, Paula Mae Schwartz, Steve Schwartz. Executive producers, Todd Wagner, Mark Cuban, Marc Butan, Rudd Simmons. Directed by John Hillcoat. Screenplay, Joe Penhall, based on the novel by Cormac McCarthy.

The Man - Viggo Mortensen
The Boy - Kodi Smit-McPhee
Wife - Charlize Theron
Old Man - Robert Duvall
The Veteran - Guy Pearce
Veteran's Wife - Molly Parker
The Thief - Michael K. Williams
The Gang Member - Garret Dillahunt
 
This "Road" leads nowhere. If you're going to adapt a book like Cormac McCarthy's 2006 bestseller, you're pretty much obliged to make a terrific film or it's not worth doing -- first because expectations are high, and second, because the picture needs to make it worth people's while to sit through something so grim. Except for the physical aspects of this bleak odyssey by a father and son through a post-apocalyptic landscape, this long-delayed production falls dispiritingly short on every front. Showing clear signs of being test-screened and futzed with to death, the Dimension release may receive a measure of respect in some quarters but is very, very far from the film it should have been, spelling moderate to tepid B.O. prospects after big fest preems.
Even more than "No Country for Old Men," with which the Coen brothers showed what is possible artistically and commercially with a McCarthy novel onscreen, "The Road" reads extremely cinematically. Filled almost entirely by spare but vivid physical descriptions of a decimated United States in its death throes after an unexplained catastrophe, and with limited dialogue, the book serves up images and tense situations that practically leap from the page as potential movie scenes.
Some things were obvious: The film's style needed to be as terse, exacting, stripped-down, tough and precise as McCarthy's prose style. The picture also should have been shocking, haunting and, at the end, deeply moving. As it is, director John Hillcoat ("The Proposition") and lenser Javier Aguirresarobe have come up with some arresting scorched-earth vistas captured on locations in Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Oregon, but have missed the bigger picture almost entirely.
It's a survival story in the most elemental possible way, as an unnamed man and boy, about 11, trudge daily through a dark world of barren forests with falling trees, torched towns and vandalized stores, empty roads and depleted fields, in search of food and shelter, all the while taking care to avoid roving gangs searching for defenseless humans to be turned into slaves or, more likely, dinner.
The man (Viggo Mortensen) has a revolver with two bullets in it, then only one. As far too many flashbacks of his pre-catastrophe life reveal, he's not a military or survivalist type, and he had a gorgeous wife (Charlize Theron) until she couldn't stand it anymore and took off. But his love for his son (Kodi Smit-McPhee) has made him resourceful and resolute despite the utter lack of long-term prospects, and he continually responds to the youngster's despairing questions with answers that insist upon perseverance.
For reasons that remain unclear even after they arrive there, they are walking toward the sea, and dreadful sights abound along the way: skeletons, rotting bodies, naked prisoners locked in dark basements like animals to be butchered (the book's two most ghastly images have been dispensed with, however). Occasionally, they chance upon an abandoned house with a stock of canned food (Coca-Cola has no problem surviving the apocalypse), clean blankets and clothes.
The drama is one little genre step away from being an outright zombie movie, something that's much more evident onscreen, with its drooling, crusty-toothed aggressors and live humans with missing limbs; memories of "Night of the Living Dead" unavoidably advance in all the scenes in which the man and boy take refuge in a house, where they must contend with unfriendly marauders.
But Hillcoat, who played with heavy violence in "The Proposition" and made some of it stick, shows no talent for or inclination toward setting up a scene here; any number of sequences in "The Road" could have been very suspenseful if built up properly, but Hillcoat, working from a script by Joe Penhall, just hopscotches from scene to scene in almost random fashion without any sense of pacing or dramatic modulation.
Dialogue that should have been directed with an almost Pinteresque sense of timing is delivered without meaningful shadings, principally by two actors who have no chemistry together. Unfortunately, Mortensen lacks the gravitas to carry the picture; suddenly resembling Gabby Hayes with his whiskers and wayward hair, the actor has no bottom to him, and his interactions with Smit-McPhee, whom one can believe as Theron's son but not Mortensen's, never come alive. Tellingly, both thesps are better in their individual scenes with other actors; Mortensen gets into it with Robert Duvall, who plays an old coot met along the road, while Smit-McPhee registers a degree of rapport with Guy Pearce, practically unrecognizable at first as another wanderer. Generally, the boy's readings are blandly on the nose.
Scraps of narration by Mortensen seem like unnecessary afterthoughts, while the preponderance of scenes featuring the wife is explainable only because Theron's presence needed to be justified by more screen time. Score by longtime Hillcoat collaborator Nick Cave and Warren Ellis borders on the treacly, softening the tone and further conventionalizing a film that should have gone the other direction toward something harsh and daring.
Camera (Technicolor, widescreen), Javier Aguirresarobe; editor, Jon Gregory; music, Nick Cave, Warren Ellis; production designer, Chris Kennedy; art director, Gershon Ginsburg; set decorator, Robert Greenfield; costume designer, Margot Wilson; sound (Dolby Digital/SDDS/DTS), Edward Tise; sound designer, Leslie Shatz; supervising sound editor, Robert Jackson; re-recording mixers, Todd Beckett, Chris David; assistant director, John Nelson; additional editor, Craig Wood; casting, Francine Maisler. Reviewed at Sunset screening room, West Hollywood, Aug. 27, 2009. (In Venice Film Festival -- competing; Telluride Film Festival; Toronto Film Festival -- Special Presentations.) MPAA Rating: R. Running time: 110 MIN.
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Milosh

Quint chats with THE ROAD director John Hillcoat about adapting Cormac McCarthy, cannibals and more!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42781

"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Milosh

"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

http://milosh.mojblog.rs/

Milosh

Dok čekamo da se The Road pojavi na divxu ili, još poželjnije, na repertoaru bioskopa, evo ga saundtrek by Nick Cave & Warren Ellis:

http://rapidshare.com/files/314126524/leonardo_astrada_2010.rar
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Le Samourai

QuoteBut then on the way out of the theater somebody else asked me for money, and I felt guilty but I just looked him in the eye, said "Sorry" and kept walking. So the book is better.
xrofl

Vern je jebeno genijalan.

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

... (naravno, anonimni) piratski pregaoci najavljuju dobre vesti - "I'm downloading the Road on a private tracker DVD screener AC3 sound.
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Should be everywhere in the next few hours. heard it here first folks!"

DAKLE, VREDI BITI NA OPREZU!!!
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ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

...izgleda da je ovo to...

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mala ograda - i sam tek uskoro krećem da skidam sa ovih linkova, nisam ih lično overio so far...

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ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

...zaboravite na ovu obavest, prerano sam se poradovao, neka poštena duša priskočila u pomoć -

"There's big chunks missing from the movie.

Got to 35 mins or so in and it jumps the cellar scene and straight to half way through the bunker.
"
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Ghoul

ne znam koji je dušmanin i zašto ovo seko i kratio (prokleta mu duša!), ali film traje 111' prema imdb-u, a ova verzija ovde je samo 87'!!!

+ ne znam dal je baš slika u originalu zaista OVOLIKO isprana od boja, ovo je maltene crno-belo.

evo ga capture sa ove verzije:


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Le Samourai

Ja bih rekao da jeste toliko isprano.

Ali Bogamu, za ovo ce se chekati bioskop. Ovo valja odgledati kako jedino valja i dolichi.

Kler_Vojant

E, a ja se bas poradovao...


ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

...ako naletite na upravo isplivalo izdanje ovog filma nazvano The.Road.DVDSCR.XviD-KTKS, ne zalećite se, uzdržite se još malo, jer ovo je zapravo samo preimenovana brljavina predstavljena ranije tokom ovog dana, i dalje fali 30ak minuta filma (na istom mestu)...
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Lord Kufer

Bila je jedna knjiga, Earth Abides, sa sličnom temom (to je veoma česta tema). Seća li se neko te knjige? Tu je katastrofa u obliku smrtonosnog virusa koji preživljava tek poneko (smrtnost 99%).

Ghoul

vaistinu, izašla verzija na 1,9 GB (!) za koju tvrde da traje 1h 50 min, što je već blisko onome što imdb kaže.

saće skinemo pa će vidimo dal laže koza ili rog ili je ovo najzad TO!
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cutter

izgleda da je to - to, dakle toxic v2 redemption verzija... sa zadržanim vodenim žigom  :x

ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas

...sva ja prilika da je ovo a real deal, skinuo sam, proverio -  sasvim zadovoljavajući kvalitet, trajanje koji sekund manje od 110 minuta...
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Ghoul

Quote from: zakk on 16-01-2008, 11:15:25
Sad me teraš da prebacujem ovo na SF, pa da onda ispadnem grbav?  :!:
tsk tsk tsk  :wink:

prebaci slobodno; zajebo sam se.
film nije horor.
ali je, uprkos tome, prilično dobar.
istina, očekivao sam više, ali siguran sam da će moje cepidlačenje biti manjinsko, i da će za većinu ovo biti masterpis.
ipak, za moje pare, oba postapokaliptična filma by lopušanski, koja večeras imate u kinoteci, šiju ovo na skoro svim poljima.
objasniću zašto, uskoro.
od mene, za the road:
4-
tj. ***(*)
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Tex Murphy

Nesrećo nesrećna, tvom sistemu ocjenjivanja potreban je remont samo takav. The Road dobija 4-, a Pisma mrtvog čovjeka (koji ga, navodno, šije na skoro svim poljima) 3+ :x
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