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Meho Krljic

$2M Michigan lottery winner defends use of food stamps

QuoteBy Detroit News detroit News – Wed May 18, 1:27 pm ET


Ron French, Detroit News staff writer

A Michigan man who won $2 million in a state lottery game continues to collect food stamps 11 months after striking it rich.

And there's nothing the state can do about it, at least for now.

Leroy Fick, 59, of Auburn won $2 million in the state lottery TV show "Make Me Rich!" last June. But the state's Department of Human Services determined he was still eligible for food stamps, Fick's attorney, John Wilson of Midland, said Tuesday.

Eligibility for food stamps is based on gross income and follows federal guidelines; lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income. As long as Fick's gross income stays below the eligibility requirement for food stamps, he can receive them, even if he has a million dollars in the bank.

Food stamps are paid for through tax dollars and are meant to help support low-income families.

"If you're going to try to make me feel bad, you're not going to do it," Fick told WNEM-TV in Saginaw on Monday.

Wilson said Fick told the DHS officials he'd won $2 million but was told he could keep using the Bridge Card issued to him to buy groceries.

Fick could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Al Kimichik, director of the office of inspector general for DHS, said the department could not comment on individual cases but that it this week began the process of requesting a waiver from the federal government to close the lottery loophole. If it is granted, assets would be counted in determining food stamp eligibility.

Though the food stamp program is federal and states must follow U.S. guidelines, states sometimes request waivers of rules. Michigan was granted a waiver recently to stop college students from qualifying for food stamps.

"For Leroy Fick to continue to use a Bridge Card, paid for by the taxpayers, after winning the lottery, is obscene," said Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge. "What a waste of taxpayer money."

Jones contacted DHS officials Monday about Fick's case, and was told the department's hands were tied by federal regulations.

"There is no liquid asset requirement for getting food stamps," Jones said. "The department is asking the federal government for an immediate change (in policy). They're hoping this case will help the federal government act."

Until then, Fick can collect food stamps and keep his lottery winnings in the bank.

"I am not going to sit and debate the ethics of this," Wilson said. "But from his standpoint, he did what he was supposed to do -- he informed the state, and the state said he could keep using the card. The problem is with the state."



Tex Murphy

Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Hobit

Nekoliko decenija...?
Mene brine da li će scallop da ''dobaci''... pa da vidi i to čudo   8-)
Sve će na kraju biti dobro, a ako nije dobro, znači da još nije kraj!

Meho Krljic

Nije baš lepo praviti takve komentare.

Hobit

Zašto?
Pa ni za sebe ne znam da li ću da dobacim! Verovatno ne.
Smrt je prirodna pojava, ''posledica života''
Hoćeš da kažeš da je sramota umreti za par decenija.... eeeee, ja bih to voleo, evo, pristajem odmah  xcheers
Sve će na kraju biti dobro, a ako nije dobro, znači da još nije kraj!

Truba

ja sam čuo da im na ljeto prijeti neki bankrot
kuku lele šta nam se sprema
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: Harvester on 19-05-2011, 16:50:28
Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.

Razmahali su se u poslednje vreme. Meni su pre neki dan neke dve raspale babe na ulici uvalile izdanje naslova "Kad će biti svet bez rata?", a zapravo je "Kula stražara", s tim da to nigde ne piše.

Naravno, svaki slobodan čovek zna kad će biti svet bez rata, kad padne Zapad, ali je malo bezveze čitati o tome uz sumanuta tumačenja Biblije i neke teško opisive rantove.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Truba


to je zato što nemate ove naljepnice na vratima
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

varvarin


Tex Murphy

Wow, volio bih da nabavim jednu takvu, naravno u pravoslavnoj verziji!
Mislim, nemam ništa ni protiv katoličke, al' bi odbila i pravoslavne sveštenike :evil:
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Tex Murphy

Quote from: John Reynolds on 19-05-2011, 19:47:40
Quote from: Harvester on 19-05-2011, 16:50:28
Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.

Razmahali su se u poslednje vreme. Meni su pre neki dan neke dve raspale babe na ulici uvalile izdanje naslova "Kad će biti svet bez rata?", a zapravo je "Kula stražara", s tim da to nigde ne piše.

Pa da, oni su veliki fanovi apokalipse (at least ONE thing we have in common, hehe...), omiljena knjiga im je Otkrovenje Jovanovo, tako da čim krene neka malo veća serija katastrofa kao npr. ova sad, odma' su oni tu da kažu "Aha, eve ga smak svijeta, samo što nije, vidite ove jade što se dešavaju, sve je to već prognozirano, zato odma pristupite našoj sekti..." itd.
Međutim, baš ću da pogledam ovo što su mi danas tutnuli, kažu ima precizan dokaz da je Amerika posljednje carstvo, pa baš da vidim... Mislim, oni su valjda "dokazali" i da se drugi Hristov dolazak već desio i to 1914., tako da bi ovo trebalo da bude interesantno :-) Samo se bojim da ne nastave da dolaze :-(
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Lord Kufer

Mogao bi Skrob da im proda ovu novu antologiju Apokalipsa ;)

Tex Murphy

Ne vjerujem da bi pristali na to, ali vjerovatno ne bi odbili razmjenu tipa Apokalipsa antologija za jednu Kulu stražaru :-)
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!


Tex Murphy

Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!


scallop

Nemoj, molim te! Tako bi Straćara postala najčitanija.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Суба

Који су то несрећници, ономад ми је један дошао на врата и нудио хрпу књига, а све се своде на исто-САД су апокалиптично царство антихриста. (?!?) Још ми каже (као чудећи се) "не занима вас ово а правник сте".  :shock:

varvarin

Quote from: scallop on 20-05-2011, 08:57:23
Nemoj, molim te! Tako bi Straćara postala najčitanija.

Misliš da se Apokalipsa neće prodati u više od 20 primeraka?! Auu!!!   :cry:

scallop

Ne, nego mislim da ako se proda u 1000 primeraka, biće to 20.000 straćara naokolo. Presektan ti je predlog.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

zakk

US Senate and House vote to extend Patriot Act provisions; Obama expected to sign

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/26/us-senate-approves-p.html
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.


scallop

Sad mogu da se brane. Još da nađu nekog novog da ih napadne... :x
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


Lord Kufer

QuoteIf you're going to get tanked today, the average for regular is $3.809 per Triple A's Daily Fuel Gauge Report.  That's up 38 percent from last year's $2.795 at this same time.  But no, there's no inflation; nothing to see here...move along...

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Lord Kufer

Još malo obaveznog iz šupljeg u prazno (što košta)...

http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/1148/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-%C3%82%E2%80%98black-boxes%C3%82%E2%80%99

QuoteU.S. to propose mandatory vehicle 'black boxes'

The U.S. Transportation Department said today it will propose making vehicle "black boxes" mandatory in all vehicles by the end of the year.
The department's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has long considered whether to make black boxes, officially called event data recorders, or EDRs, mandatory. They collect data about the seconds leading up to a crash and can help investigators determine the cause.


From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-'black-boxes'#ixzz1NbFQj4yQ


Lord Kufer

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/28/mysterious.fund/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
QuoteThe defense bill that just passed the House of Representatives includes a back-door fund that lets individual members of Congress funnel millions of dollars into projects of their choosing.
This is happening despite a congressional ban on earmarks -- special, discretionary spending that has funded Congress' pet projects back home in years past, but now has fallen out of favor among budget-conscious deficit hawks.
Under the cloak of a mysteriously-named "Mission Force Enhancement Transfer Fund," Congress has been squirreling away money -- like $9 million for "future undersea capabilities development," $19 million for "Navy ship preliminary design and feasibility studies," and more than $30 million for a "corrosion prevention program."
So in a year dominated by demands for spending cuts, where did all the money come from?
Politics: Loophole for earmarks?
Roughly $1 billion was quietly transferred from projects listed in the president's defense budget and placed into the "transfer fund." This fund, which wasn't in previous year's defense budgets (when earmarks were permitted), served as a piggy bank from which committee members were able to take money to cover the cost of programs introduced by their amendments.

scallop

Ne znam samo kad sve to naštampaju.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Lord Kufer

Elektronski novac. Nemaju oni ni blizu toliko papirnih novčanica. Ovo je sve na "poverenje". Agrokomerc ;)



дејан

...barcode never lies
FLA

sekta

Quote from: Black swan on 19-05-2011, 20:13:50

to je zato što nemate ove naljepnice na vratima
Не знам. Мени се ово баш и не свиђа  :evil:

Lord Kufer

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/03/house.libya/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

QuoteThe Republican-controlled House of Representatives issued a rebuke of President Barack Obama's Libya policy Friday, passing a measure declaring that the president has failed to provide a "compelling rationale" for military involvement in the North African country.

Lord Kufer

History in the making...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread712213/pg1

QuoteImportant Information
Changes to MLS Time Series Data

With the release of April 2011 mass layoff data on May 20, 2011, data suppression procedures will be updated in the MLS time series database. These changes may affect data as far back as 1996. Similar changes were made to quarterly extended mass layoff data on May 11, 2011.

Change in North Carolina MLS Input Procedures

Beginning with data for November 2010, mass layoff information reported by North Carolina may not be comparable to prior data due to a change in the unemployment insurance (UI) input procedures related to the handling of initial claims filed by employers on behalf of laid-off workers. Previously, employer-filed initial claims were excluded from use in the Mass Layoff Statistics (MLS) program because they are usually associated with layoffs that are temporary in nature (i.e., less than 31 days in duration), and therefore would not meet the extended mass layoff criteria. However, the temporary nature of these layoffs was not a certainty, and some extended mass layoff events may have been missed. Employer-filed claims are now included as part of the North Carolina's UI initial claim inputs for determining mass layoffs to ensure that all mass layoff and extended mass layoff events are captured. These changes in North Carolina MLS data may also affect aggregated data series for the South Atlantic division, the South region, and the nation, though to a lesser relative degree.

http://www.bls.gov/mls/mlsnote.htm

scallop

Dojadili ste mi sa linkovima.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Lord Kufer

Ovde kažu da menjaju istorijske činjenice-podatke kako bi naštelovali podatke o broju zaposlenih-nezaposlenih...

scallop

Lakše je menjati istorijske činjenice nego broj zaposlenih.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Lord Kufer

Tamo je poprilični haos i laganje, i biće sve gore. Nema nikakve sumnje u to. Imaju sve simptome da se raspadnu po scenariju sličnom onom po kojem se Jugoslavija raspala. Pri tome, ima mnogima da zakuka mila majka.

Lord Kufer

Hate to do this...

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

QuoteCorporate Tax Breaks vs. Jobs

As we roll out the monthly jobs report from the Labor Department (in a sec.) the main thing to be aware of is how corpgov is doing a "pully-wooly" on the whole notion of trading unemployment compensation funding for corporate tax breaks.



The scam comes in a variety of flavors:

    Political hacks -  and these are the savior republicorps at work - gives out corporate tax breaks while cutting tax credits for the poor. Think upper Midwest gov. on this one.  Must be something in the water west of Illinois since they're also into no-bid contracts for Big Corps to run what would otherwise be profitable state revenue generators.  Sweet.

    Oh and a republicorp prez wannbe on the east coast, too, if you insist on having a good memory.

    A different hack grants corp tax breaks and funds it by essentially reducing the amount of time people in that state (southeast corner) can receive unemployment comp.  Think they're down to 23 weeks, or so.

    In Massachusetts, lawmakers are questioning whether corp tax breaks really work at all.

    California has been extending tax breaks for another five years for the state's film industry.

    Meantime, the LA Times has a piece about how corporations would like to have a lower income tax rate over a shifting landscape of tax incentives!

So as a lead-in to the jobs numbers:  Corps are getting the dough that used to go to workers, states are cutting bennies and claiming unemployment is "improving" and as we'll show in a sec, even things like historical data is being revised by the Labor Department.



Can anyone be trusted?  'Fraid we know the answer to that one.....

Lord Kufer

Hate to do this...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/half-last-months-jobs-came-single-employer-mcdonalds_573220.html

Half of Last Month's New Jobs Came from a Single Employer — McDonald's

I ovako se može štelovati statistika...

QuoteMcDonald's ran a big hiring day on April 19 — after the Labor Department's April survey for the payrolls report was conducted — in which 62,000 jobs were added. That's not a net number, of course, and seasonal adjustment will reduce the Hamburglar impact on payrolls. (In simpler terms — restaurants always staff up for the summer; the Labor Department makes allowance for this effect.) Morgan Stanley estimates McDonald's hiring will boost the overall number by 25,000 to 30,000. The Labor Department won't detail an exact McDonald's figure — they won't identify any company they survey — but there will be data in the report to give a rough estimate.

If Morgan Stanley is correct, about half of last month's job growth came from the venerable fast-food chain. That is hardly the sign of a healthy economy.

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


scallop

A šta kažeš na ovo:

Rachel Mellon, the 100-year-old widow of philanthropist Paul Mellon and one of the richest women in America, is caught in the scandal surrounding John Edwards.

Babojebac. :evil:

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


Lord Kufer

Tačno se zna ko koga sme da pipne. Zanimljiva ekonomija ta Amerika.
Neverovatno od kakvih su nebuloza oni napravili svoj reality show.
Ona afera Lewinski je pokrila grdne pronevere i ničim opravdani i zasluženi rat protiv Srbije.

scallop

Babac secretly delnuo 725 tisuća bolova (dolores) Edvardsu za kampanju. Dala bi ona i Borisu. Znam, ima zbirku od 10.000 knjiga iz botanike. Jesi li primetio: nekad Kaponea, a sad fine ljude navataju za pare, a kriminalce ko Esanža i Štros-Kana na silovanje i pedofiliju. Sve delikatno.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Lord Kufer

Pipkavo, takorekuć...
Razvili su mnoge razne fore. A zamisli da su mu našli opušak u pepeljari  :? :? :?

scallop

Oni tamo nemaju blanko ostavke. Odaberu kandidatu kriminalnu radnju po volji, a onda je obavi uz dva svedoka. Babac je tu jer ne zna šta čini. Ona će da odbije da svedoči. Po Petom Amandmanu.

"I, šta treba da uradim?"
"Uzmi ove pare i troši ih u zdravlje. Mi smo zemlja demokratskih sloboda."
"A, vi?"
"Mi smo svedoci iz senke."
"A, babac?"
"Šta - babac? Ona ide kući. Zvanično je dementna. Aloizije i Džon u dublu. Pouzdani dobročinitelj je već pola veka..."
"Onda, da popijemo nešto...?"
"A, jok. Mi smo na zadatku. Znate, Služba..."
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.