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lilit

među ovim amerima stvarno ima bisera  :-x :cry: :
In the US, senator Robert Menendez, chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, has said Snowden is a "fugitive who belongs in a United States courtroom" and said the episode damaged US-Russian relations:

   " Edward Snowden is a fugitive who belongs in a United States courtroom, not a free man deserving of asylum in Russia.

    Regardless of the fact that Russia is granting asylum for one year, this action is a setback to US-Russia relations.

    Edward Snowden will potentially do great damage to US national security interests and the information he is leaking could aid terrorists and others around the world who want to do real harm to our country.

    Russia must return Snowden to face trial at home."


Stvarno se nadam da im neće pasti na pamet da pokušaju da ga roknu na ruskoj teritoriji.

I jbt, šta je on leakovao osim da ovi prisluškuju koga stignu i sad je on criminal i fugitive...a tek na TV stanicama bliskim vladi, 4 sata o trudovima Kate Middleton, pa 3 sata o Zimmermanu, pa 3 minuta o Snowdenu kao najgorem šljamu i krimosu. Sedim, gledam, ne verujem.

That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Usul

Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

Meho Krljic

Pa ima oн штошта да леакује, raznorazne operativne procedure, imena, bla bla bla... obaveštajne službe ni jednu informaciju ne smatraju nevažnom.

lilit

hm, pa ima, al sve sto je dosad likovaose odnosi na gadno krsenje zakona od strane onih o kojima se likuje, te ja ne vidim problem u tome  :lol:. valjda treba obavestiti javnost kad se takvo nesto desava. pa i sama amerika je na tome insistirala 1945.  :lol: :lol:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden

@usul,
nesto se nadam da ga rusi nece pustiti niz vodu, a verujem da im je trenutno vrlo zanimljiv ako ni zbog cega ono zbog tupljenja da oni postuju ljudska prava i internacionalne zakone. :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: Usul on 01-08-2013, 18:01:26
Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)

Мислиш да ће Амери и Руси сарађивати у ликвидацији тако што ће и једни и други применити своје омиљене начине?
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Usul

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 03-08-2013, 00:59:00
Quote from: Usul on 01-08-2013, 18:01:26
Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)

Мислиш да ће Амери и Руси сарађивати у ликвидацији тако што ће и једни и други применити своје омиљене начине?

Ako ga maknu rusi mogu da kazu da su to ameri koji hoce da prebace odgovornost na ruse, a ako ga makne cia onda mogu da kazu da su to bili rusi :-)
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

Tex Murphy

А зашто би га Руси мицали?
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Джон Рейнольдс

Смешно је све то са Сноуденом. Као што сам већ одавно писао, Руси се вероватно понашају уздржано јер Сноуден није објавио ништа посебно.

Али понављам, чини ми се да је момкова намера била часна и не бих волео да најебе у великим играма. Некако је за наук свима да не буду корисни идиоти зликоваца (чак и неким форумским "фацама").
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Tex Murphy

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-scraps-planned-putin-summit-after-snowden-leaks-140941413.html

Чланак је генерално урнебесан, али мени је ово хајлајт:

"But there have been times where they [мисли на Русе]slip back into Cold War thinking and a Cold War mentality," Obama added. "And what I consistently say to them, and what I say to President Putin, is that's the past and we've got to think about the future, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to cooperate more effectively than we do."

:!:
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Ghoul

pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Ugly MF

Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!

xjap

divča

Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!

Meho, upomoć, ne mogu da provalim da li je opet šala ili je sad ozbiljno?
Ova briga za manastire mi je sumnjiva...
And every life became
A brilliant breaking of the bank,
A quite unlosable game.

Ghoul

mnogo si bre ograničeno, divčo, a princip je krajnje prost, iako nije gavrilo:

crkve i manastire treba da ruše i pale oni koji su ih dizali a ne neki sa strane.
svako(m) svoje!
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Stipan

Ma i ne ruše ih neki sa strane, sve sam komšija do komšije...

divča

Dok se u Srbiji džamije pale same od sebe...
And every life became
A brilliant breaking of the bank,
A quite unlosable game.

Stipan

Pa i to su neke komšije...

Meho Krljic

Quote from: divča on 08-08-2013, 11:27:37
Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!

Meho, upomoć, ne mogu da provalim da li je opet šala ili je sad ozbiljno?
Ova briga za manastire mi je sumnjiva...

Gul bi ipak trebalo da razjasni da li kad kaže "manastir" misli na spomenik kulture ili na živo Hristovo telo na zemlji  :lol:

дејан

...barcode never lies
FLA

Ghoul

Quote from: divča on 08-08-2013, 11:57:10
Dok se u Srbiji džamije pale same od sebe...

tvojoj ograničenosti baš nema granica!

da li je toliko teško pojmiti moje načelo: svako(m) SVOJE.

dakle, u idealnom svetu, meho bi palio džamije a ja manastire.
ali pošto ne živimo u idealnom svetu, uglavnom pogrešni pale i ruše.  :cry:
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

angel011

http://www.lady-patriots.com/if-they-come-to-your-door-dont-let-them-in/#


Ukratko: prodavci knjiga za decu, neretko strani studenti, idu od vrata do vrata, pokušavaju da prodaju knjige, i raspituju se u kojim kućama u komšiluku ima dece, što je vrlo sumnjivo (sigurno 'oće nešto opako sa sitnom američkom đecom!).
We're all mad here.

Ghoul

Quote from: angel011 on 10-08-2013, 12:47:05
(sigurno 'oće nešto opako sa sitnom američkom đecom!).

DA!
DA IM UVALE KNJIGE!!!
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

angel011

We're all mad here.

Stipan

Pa i tamo je kriza, nema se za svakojake skarednosti...


Ghoul

jao, strašno, pa mi smo najgori, zar mi u evropu, ko je poslednji nek ugasi svetlo... oh, pardon, čekaj, pa ovo je u americi?

ah, onda ništa.
sva sreća što u srbiji nema policijske brutalnosti i prebijanja nasmrt ili s teškim telesnim posledicama...
https://ljudska_splacina.com/


Truman

Baš sam sad gledao ekonomske pokazatelje i ako je suditi po statistici njihova privreda se oporavlja. Još od prošle godine raste BDP, a stopa nezaposlenosti opada, pala je ispod 8%. Toliko o propasti Carstva. :evil:
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Loni

Propast ne mora biti samo ekonomska.

U nekim sredinama primetna je propast kreativnosti.
Kod Amera retko koji film odstupa od kalupa u poslednje vreme.

mac

Znaju oni šta rade. Dokle god publika guta isto oni će im to servirati.

Truman

Quote from: Loni on 17-08-2013, 16:23:26
Propast ne mora biti samo ekonomska.

U nekim sredinama primetna je propast kreativnosti.
Kod Amera retko koji film odstupa od kalupa u poslednje vreme.

Pusti film, bez toga može da se živi. Ja pričam o ''ozbiljnim'' stvarima. Takođe, najveći kreativci na polju tehnologije upravo rade u Americi.
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Loni

Dobro de. Ekonomija jeste najvažnija.

Pored filma ja primećujem da im je i muzika sve jednoličnija.
Britanija da više dobrih pesama po godini od SAD.

Iako neće propasti mislim da Amerika više nikad neće biti onoliko superiorna kao krajem prošlog veka.
Na svakom kanalu - njihove serije (Od Dinastije za tetke domaćice, preko Beverli Hilsa za tinejdžere, do Tvin Piksa za ljubitelje krimi komičnog horora)...
U dečjem terminu samo njihovi crtaći i Muppet Show.
Treći kanal RTS-a prenosi direktno MTV pola dana...
U žiži sveta samo Njurjok i LA


A danas?
Od Beograda do Dubaija turske serije najpopularnije, pa indijske pa latinoameričke...
Ameri gotovo od odustali od 45-ominutnih serijala u nastavcima i opredelili se ili za 22-minutne komične ili krimi serije gde je svaka epizoda za sebe.
Crtaći? Japan sve jači.
Muzika? Nekad su u gradovima ostalih zemalja IN bili anglo žanrovi: rok, pop, rap, metal, aReNBi.

Danas svaka zemlja fura autentičnost. Turska i Grčka u orijentalnom ritmu, kao i svi Arapi,
na Balkanu Guča..., latino Amerika opet neki svoj fazon...


Rokenrol je svoju popularnost sveo samo na zemlje anglofonog područja.
Već u španskom govornom području to više nije najpopularnija muzika.
O Aziji i Africi da ne govorimo.

Drugim rečima anglo i američki uticaj na kulturu sveta nikad slabiji.
Ne ulazim koliko je to dobro ili loše. Možda i nije tako loše.

mac

Tursko/indijska veza se rabi zbog jeftinoće, a ne zato što su Ameri jednolični. Mislim, ako je nešto jednolično onda su to te turske melodrame u nastavcima. I opet Loni gledaš medije, a to nije ništa bitno. Gledaj industriju, nauku, dostignuća. To je toliko očigledno da pomišljam da opet nešto troluješ...

Loni

Pa i plasman serija i zabave je industrija.

Ove godine bio sam u Antaliji.
Kažu da su pre 20 godina Turci prodavali svoje TV serije tako jeftino, da su bili srećni ako ih neka televizija
u Siriji ili Iraku otkupi za bednih 500 evra po epizodi.
Znači ako ih je u seriji radilo 250 ljudi ukupnu, dobijali bi 2 evra po svakoj emitovanoj epizodi u inostranstvu.


Danas sama glumica glavne sultanije Hurem, dobije oko 20 000 evra po epizodi.
TV kanali po Saudi Arabiji, Jemenu, Omanu, Emiratima, Egiptu, Maroku, Srbiji, Bosni, Makedoniji, Bugarskoj, Rumuniji cenjkaju se međusobno ko će otkupi.

Truman

Pa dobro, i jeste industrija. Onda gledaj ukupnu sliku. Američki BDP u koji ulaze i proizvodi zabave se oporavlja. Sporo, ali već godinu i po...
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Meho Krljic

Ovo i nije neka velika novost, jer se događalo u Subotu, ali ipak, vredi zabeležiti da je jedan od novinara TIME magazina tvitovao kako jedva čeka da dobije priliku da napiše odbranu za napad bespilotnom letelicom koji će ubiti Džulijana Asanža. Nakon što se urednik TIME magazina distancirao od ovoga a gomila ljudi reagovala masovnim fejspalmingom, Majk Grunvald, kako je ime ovom reporteru, je uklonio tvit. Ali čovek je očigledno komad budale kako i donjelinkovani tekst pokazuje, jer je već i ranije tvitovao da ne vidi problem u tome što Amerika UAV-ovima ubija ljude po svetu. Njegova reakcija na ubijenog američkog građanina u Jemenu? "A što bi trebalo da me je briga? Pa on je bio iz Al Kaide!"

Svakakvi ludaci pišu za taj TIME...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html

Meho Krljic

I o istom trošku, mada se ovo događalo u Britaniji, u pitanju je očigledan primer kako Amerika vlada dobrim delom sveta i vuče ga u propas (moralnu u najmanju ruku):

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow

Partner Gardijanovog novinara koji je objavio Snowdenove priče, intervjue itd. je zadržan devet sati na londonskom aerodromu Hitrou, pod sumnjom da je terorista. Mislim, em peder, em Brazilac, šta bi drugo mogao da bude? Elem, devet sati je zakonski maksimum koliko čoveka možete da ispitujete pre nego što ga uhapsite ili pustite, pa su britanske vlasti ovog momka pustile, ali su mu konfiskovale svu elektroniku, uključujući konzole za igranje i DVDjeve...

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Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours David Miranda, partner of Guardian interviewer of whistleblower Edward Snowden, questioned under Terrorism Act

The partner of the Guardian journalist who has written a series of stories revealing mass surveillance programmes by the US National Security Agency was held for almost nine hours on Sunday by UK authorities as he passed through London's Heathrow airport on his way home to Rio de Janeiro.
David Miranda, who lives with Glenn Greenwald, was returning from a trip to Berlin when he was stopped by officers at 8.05am and informed that he was to be questioned under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000. The controversial law, which applies only at airports, ports and border areas, allows officers to stop, search, question and detain individuals.
The 28-year-old was held for nine hours, the maximum the law allows before officers must release or formally arrest the individual. According to official figures, most examinations under schedule 7 – over 97% – last less than an hour, and only one in 2,000 people detained are kept for more than six hours.
Miranda was released, but officials confiscated electronics equipment including his mobile phone, laptop, camera, memory sticks, DVDs and games consoles.
Since 5 June, Greenwald has written a series of stories revealing the NSA's electronic surveillance programmes, detailed in thousands of files passed to him by whistleblower Edward Snowden. The Guardian has also published a number of stories about blanket electronic surveillance by Britain's GCHQ, also based on documents from Snowden.
While in Berlin, Miranda had visited Laura Poitras, the US film-maker who has also been working on the Snowden files with Greenwald and the Guardian. The Guardian paid for Miranda's flights.
"This is a profound attack on press freedoms and the news gathering process," Greenwald said. "To detain my partner for a full nine hours while denying him a lawyer, and then seize large amounts of his possessions, is clearly intended to send a message of intimidation to those of us who have been reporting on the NSA and GCHQ. The actions of the UK pose a serious threat to journalists everywhere.
"But the last thing it will do is intimidate or deter us in any way from doing our job as journalists. Quite the contrary: it will only embolden us more to continue to report aggressively."
A spokesperson for the Guardian said: "We were dismayed that the partner of a Guardian journalist who has been writing about the security services was detained for nearly nine hours while passing through Heathrow airport. We are urgently seeking clarification from the British authorities."
A spokesperson for Scotland Yard said: "At 08:05 on Sunday, 18 August a 28-year-old man was detained at Heathrow airport under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000. He was not arrested. He was subsequently released at 17:00."
Scotland Yard refused to be drawn on why Miranda was stopped using powers that enable police officers to stop and question travellers at UK ports and airports.
There was no comment from the Home Office in relation to the detention. However, there was surprise in political circles and elsewhere. Labour MP Tom Watson said he was shocked at the news and called for it to be made clear if any ministers were involved in authorising the detention.
He said: "It's almost impossible, even without full knowledge of the case, to conclude that Glenn Greenwald's partner was a terrorist suspect.
"I think that we need to know if any ministers knew about this decision, and exactly who authorised it."
"The clause in this act is not meant to be used as a catch-all that can be used in this way."
Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act has been widely criticised for giving police broad powers under the guise of anti-terror legislation to stop and search individuals without prior authorisation or reasonable suspicion – setting it apart from other police powers.
Those stopped have no automatic right to legal advice and it is a criminal offence to refuse to co-operate with questioning under schedule 7, which critics say is a curtailment of the right to silence.
Last month the UK government said it would reduce the maximum period of detention to six hours and promised a review of the operation on schedule 7 amid concerns it unfairly targets minority groups and gives individuals fewer legal protections than they would have if detained at a police station.
The government of Brazil issued a statement in which it expressed its "grave concern" over the detention of one of its citizens and the use of anti-terror legislation. It said: "This measure is without justification since it involves an individual against whom there are no charges that can legitimate the use of that legislation. The Brazilian government expects that incidents such as the one that happened to the Brazilian citizen today are not repeated."
Widney Brown, Amnesty International's senior director of international law and policy, said: "It is utterly improbable that David Michael Miranda, a Brazilian national transiting through London, was detained at random, given the role his partner has played in revealing the truth about the unlawful nature of NSA surveillance.
"David's detention was unlawful and inexcusable. He was detained under a law that violates any principle of fairness and his detention shows how the law can be abused for petty, vindictive reasons.
"There is simply no basis for believing that David Michael Miranda presents any threat whatsoever to the UK government. The only possible intent behind this detention was to harass him and his partner, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, for his role in analysing the data released by Edward Snowden."



Tex Murphy

Quote from: mac on 17-08-2013, 17:19:15
Tursko/indijska veza se rabi zbog jeftinoće, a ne zato što su Ameri jednolični. Mislim, ako je nešto jednolično onda su to te turske melodrame u nastavcima. I opet Loni gledaš medije, a to nije ništa bitno. Gledaj industriju, nauku, dostignuća. To je toliko očigledno da pomišljam da opet nešto troluješ...

Лони? ТРОЛУЈЕ????? Ма даааааааааааааааааааај!  :D
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Truman

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 20-08-2013, 10:16:21
Ovo i nije neka velika novost, jer se događalo u Subotu, ali ipak, vredi zabeležiti da je jedan od novinara TIME magazina tvitovao kako jedva čeka da dobije priliku da napiše odbranu za napad bespilotnom letelicom koji će ubiti Džulijana Asanža. Nakon što se urednik TIME magazina distancirao od ovoga a gomila ljudi reagovala masovnim fejspalmingom, Majk Grunvald, kako je ime ovom reporteru, je uklonio tvit. Ali čovek je očigledno komad budale kako i donjelinkovani tekst pokazuje, jer je već i ranije tvitovao da ne vidi problem u tome što Amerika UAV-ovima ubija ljude po svetu. Njegova reakcija na ubijenog američkog građanina u Jemenu? "A što bi trebalo da me je briga? Pa on je bio iz Al Kaide!"

Svakakvi ludaci pišu za taj TIME...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html


Taj frajer ko da je iz Pečata. :oops:
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

lilit

sutra u 16h po našem vremenu presuda manningu. pa ko živ, ko mrtav. moronsko tužilaštvo tražilo 60 godina da osiguraju da nikome ne padne na pamet tako nešto. na stranu što nisu morali da dokazuju da je šteta učinjena.
mnogo me ljute i oni i uk, al, javlja mi se, ne haju mnogo zbog toga.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Ghoul

Quote from: lilit on 20-08-2013, 19:22:58
mnogo me ljute i oni i uk, al, javlja mi se, ne haju mnogo zbog toga.

i meni se javlja da se ne potresaju mnogo što si ti naljućena.  :cry:
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Ghoul

Slavery in the City: Death of 21-year-old intern Moritz Erhardt at Merrill Lynch sparks furore over long hours and macho culture at banks

Young German worked until 6am for three consecutive days before collapse at home in east London   

Serious concerns have been raised tonight about the punishing hours endured by interns at City investment banks following the death of a young Bank of America Merrill Lynch employee.

Moritz Erhardt, 21, was nearing the end of a seven-week internship in London when he collapsed at home after working until 6am for three days in a row.

His body was discovered by his flatmates. The circumstances of his death are unknown, but police are not treating them as suspicious. Some reports suggested that Mr Moritz, from Freiburg, south-west Germany, was epileptic.

Around 300 interns working at various banks stay at the Claredale House student accommodation complex in Bethnal Green in east London for between seven and 10 weeks over the summer. One intern, who did not want to be named, told The Independent those in Mr Moritz's investing banking division group faced the longest hours.

He said: "We all work long hours, but the guys working regularly until 3am or 4am are those in investment banking. People working in markets will have to be in at 6am but not stay as late, so what time you can leave the office depends on your division.

"You're only doing it for up to 10 weeks so there's a general acceptance of it. I see many people wandering around, blurry-eyed and drinking caffeine to get through but people don't complain because the potential rewards are so great. We're competing for some very well-paid jobs."

Another intern living at Claredale claimed that Mr Erhardt, who had been earning £2,700 a month or £45,000 pro rata, collapsed from exhaustion. "He apparently pulled eight all-nighters in two weeks. They get you working crazy hours and maybe it was just too much for him in the end," they said.

Users of the popular finance blog wallstreetoasis.com insisted Mr Erhardt regularly worked long hours, with his final three days consisting of 21-hour stints in the office. One said: "He was found dead in the shower by his flatmate. Intern at BAML who went home at 6am three days in a row."

Mr Moritz was found last Thursday around 8.30pm and was pronounced dead at the scene. His parents are believed to be in the UK where a post-mortem and inquest will now take place.

The London-based cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra spoke of the health risks to which young banking interns are exposed. He said: "Although we don't know for sure what caused such a tragic death, we know that working excessive hours, especially night shifts, is an extra risk to health.

"Last year the BMJ [medical journal] published the largest and most comprehensive review of over two million people concluding that those working shifts and especially night shifts were at significantly increased risk of heart attack and stroke. It's probably related to a combination of sleep deprivation and added stress."

Bank of America Merrill Lynch said it could not comment on the claims about the hours that Mr Moritz had been working. John McIvor, head of international communications at Merrill Lynch, said: "All the rumours and comments are just that. We will have to wait and see what the post-mortem examination says." He added: "Our first thoughts are with his family and we send our condolences to them."

Mr McIvor refused to say whether or not it was common for staff to work through the night. He said: "I have not got any comment to make on our work patterns." But he added: "Do people in investment banking sometimes work long hours? Yes they do."

Mr Moritz appears to have been one of many interns caught on the so-called "magic roundabout" – a process whereby a taxi takes interns home, waits outside while they shower and change, then drives them back to the office to begin another long day.

FinanceInterns, a careers advice group, condemned the City's long-hours culture. A spokesperson said: "Young people who jubilantly accept a summer internship thinking they've landed a chance at their dream job, find themselves declaring that, what should have been a summer full of hope, is in fact the 'worst three months' of their lives due to the exhausting combination of all-nighters, weekend work and the magic roundabout.

"In the toughest job-market experienced in recent times, competition is even higher. Consequently these talented, diligent, young people are ever more willing to work hours which more senior staff would not."

Mr Erhardt studied business administration at the University of Michigan before attending WHU Otto Beisheim School of Management in Vallendar, Germany, where he was due to graduate next year. He had already completed placements at KPMG Consulting, Morgan Stanley, and in Deutsche Bank's corporate finance division.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/slavery-in-the-city-death-of-21yearold-intern-moritz-erhardt-at-merrill-lynch-sparks-furore-over-long-hours-and-macho-culture-at-banks-8775917.html
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Meho Krljic

Da... taj internšip je jedna od najmračnijih izmišljotina poznog kapitalizma...

lilit

35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Meho Krljic

Veleizdaja je ipak veleizdaja. A to što oni roksaju po civilima - nikom ništa.

-_-

Quote from: lilit on 21-08-2013, 20:18:46
35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(

Bas mi nesto bese zao kad sam cuo :(

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 21-08-2013, 23:36:59
A to što oni roksaju po civilima - nikom ništa.

A jbg... "Sto je dozvoljeno Jupiteru..."

mac

Kad bi BRICS uveo trgovinsku blokadu Americi ispalo bi da ni taj Jupiter nije baš neprikosnoven.

angel011

Quote from: lilit on 21-08-2013, 20:18:46
35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(

Ima l' šanse da mu to smanje?  :(
We're all mad here.

-_-

Quote from: angel011 on 22-08-2013, 11:01:03
Ima l' šanse da mu to smanje?  :(

Teoretski ima.
Takodje, predsednik moze da ga pomiluje.
A nakon izdrzane trecine kazne, ima pravo na uslovni otpust (za sad je odsluzio 4 god).

Dal ce nesto od ovoga biti, who knows...?

pokojni Steva

Baš me interesuje kako bi reagovala "domaća" ekipa kad bi neko iz srbijanske vojske/policije izlajavio reciprocitetno slično, sigurno je da se ima šta. Jel' bi bilo konjima za repove, il' samo smrtna kazna?
Jelte, jel' i kod vas petnaes' do pola dvanaes'?

Meho Krljic

Mislim da bi kod nas reakcija bila više u stilu "ma kakvi, to sve izmišljeno, jasno je da iza tog čoveka/ žene stoje interesi krupnog kapitala/ ruske obaveštajne službe/ zapadne špijunske agencije, pa nismo mi vesla sisali, znamo mi kolko putera na glavi on/ ona ima a i ćale mu je bio gej" itd. Recimo, kad su objavljeni oni snimci kako Škorpioni ubijaju zarobljenike, od strane Nataše Kandić, čini mi se da je to otprilike bio ton reakcija na jednoj strani.