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Meho Krljic

Najbolje da ne odlučujemo dok ne otkriješ koliko još misliš da pišeš.  :lol: Do tad će i moji kulinarski skilovi uključivati i spremanje janjetine, jaretine i ostalih mesa mladunčadi životinja.

Linkin

S jedne strane, Meho bi trebalo da bude fer i uvaži da je njegova opaska ako ništa bila dezinformatorska, jer brojke su bliske, pa bi prema tome majmunima trebalo praktično vrlo slično vreme da nasumično skuckaju Šekspira kao i scallopa. Nema tu neke razlike, teorijski. Nasumično je nasumično.  xwink2

S druge strane, krajnje je nehumano terati bilo koga da jede tofu. scallop bi tu trebalo da bude fer i da u svakom slučaju pripremi tu jaretinu.  :|

Meho Krljic

Da, pa ja sam svakako napravio asumpciju koju bi u praksi trebalo proveriti, ali pošto smo lenji, to se verovatno neće desiti - ko sad da skuplja sve te naučne radove i broji reči - nema šanse.

A tofu uopšte nije neukusan kad se lepo spremi. Ja sam živi svedok!!!!!

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

scallop

Ti i spremanje sirote mladunčadi? Rasplakaću se.


Trenutno pišem amatersku, bandoglavu teoriju pisanja fantastike. Razmišljam da u Teoriji... otvorim topik "Skallopovi tripovi". Nekako mi nedostaje onaj sa originalnim naslovom. Na primer, sinoć sam gledao u Kulturnim vestima RTS dr Zorana Živkovića. On uvek ima gromoglasne izjave. Kao: "Pisac se postaje sa pedeset godina." Šta znam? Možda je u pravu. Znam neke koji nemaju, a misle da su pisci. Ili: "Ako vas neko pita ko je najbolji srpski pisac naučne fantastike, slobodno napišite - dr Zoran Živković. To je dobitna kombinacija." Sad kad smo dokazali da sam napisao više tekstova od Šekspira, šta bi mi falilo da i ja odvalim tako nešto? Dosta je bilo skromnoće. Neću se, valjda, dokazivati iz Enciklopedije mrtvih?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

scallop

Quote from: zakk on 02-06-2015, 14:51:28
Super ide umesto slanine u ovom "biskvitu"

http://www.zloprase.com/dorucak/rastanak-novi-susret-i-hrskavi-biskviti-sa-slaninom/


Aj' ne lupetaj. Slaninica je nezamenljiva! Kad sam ja to pre dvadeset ikusur godina naglašavao, svi su se zgražali. Danas nema kuvara koji će izbeći slaninicu kao osnovnu podlogu za jelo. xfrog
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Quote from: scallop on 02-06-2015, 14:52:23
Ti i spremanje sirote mladunčadi? Rasplakaću se.


O, pa nikako ne želim da odraslog čoveka dovedem do suza. Ništa, ješćeš neke vegetarijanske palačinke kad prebrojimo sve reči svih tvojih napisa.  :lol:

scallop

Quote from: Linkin Uroborni on 02-06-2015, 14:39:57
S jedne strane, Meho bi trebalo da bude fer i uvaži da je njegova opaska ako ništa bila dezinformatorska, jer brojke su bliske, pa bi prema tome majmunima trebalo praktično vrlo slično vreme da nasumično skuckaju Šekspira kao i scallopa. Nema tu neke razlike, teorijski. Nasumično je nasumično.  xwink2

:-|


Majmuni ne znaju srpski. Oni govore engleski.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

scallop

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-06-2015, 14:56:16
Ništa, ješćeš neke vegetarijanske palačinke kad prebrojimo sve reči svih tvojih napisa:lol:


Ne odustaješ od insinuacija? Alo, naučni radovi imaju obaveznu recenziju.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Insinuacija? Kakvih sad to insinuacija? Pričamo o broju reči u svemu što si napisao, uključujući naučne radove, scenarija za stripove, autorske i goustrajtovane prozne uratke itd. Šta sam sad insinuirao, zaboga???

I malo mi je bizarno da misliš da je potrebno da MENI objašnjavaš da naučni radovi moraju da budu recenzirani, uzevši  u obzir da je moj otac objavljivani doktor nauka i profesor univerziteta u penziji.  :lol:

scallop

Čik tati pomeni njegove napise.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Pominjem mu ja i gore stvari, al šta će, sad je već svestan da ću u njegovim poodmaklijim godinama ja biti neko na čiju će se ljubaznu pomoć oslanjati za svoje dnevne potrebe, pa gleda da me ne antagonizuje previše  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Šalu na stranu (u realnosti, antagonizuje me kao i uvek) - uopšte nisam imao ikakvu pežorativnu nameru kada sam upotrebio reč "napisi", samo sam time hteo da ouhvatim tvoj prozni, naučni, stripovski i drugi rad i činila mi se kao zgodan krovni termin.

Mileva


zakk

Quote from: scallop on 02-06-2015, 14:55:07
Quote from: zakk on 02-06-2015, 14:51:28
Super ide umesto slanine u ovom "biskvitu"

http://www.zloprase.com/dorucak/rastanak-novi-susret-i-hrskavi-biskviti-sa-slaninom/


Aj' ne lupetaj. Slaninica je nezamenljiva! Kad sam ja to pre dvadeset ikusur godina naglašavao, svi su se zgražali. Danas nema kuvara koji će izbeći slaninicu kao osnovnu podlogu za jelo. xfrog

Ok ok, slaninica je čvrsta tačka o koju se može pomeriti svet.
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

PTY


Meho Krljic

Jedan od standardnih parametara za to da li živimo SF ili ne je postojanje personalnih džetpekova u slobodnoj prodaji, jelte. E, pa to, vele, će da se desi naredne godine:

The world's first commercial jetpack will cost $150,000 next year

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Jetpacks could fly out of science fiction and on to the streets carrying first responders and millionaires next year


After 35 years in development, the world's first commercially available jetpack will be available next year for $150,000.


The Martin Jetpack is made from carbon fibre and aluminium. It eschews the traditional rockets of science-fiction jetpacks, which are powerful but difficult to control, and instead uses fans.

A two-litre petrol engine drives two fans either side of the pilot to lift the jet pack and up to 120kgs of human into the air, along with a low-altitude parachute for use should things go wrong.

After initial test flights in 2011, an updated version was shown off recently at the Paris airshow. It could fly for up to 30 minutes at speeds as fast as 74 kilometres per hour. Pilots will be able to reach altitudes of 1,000m taking off and landing vertically, meaning rooftops, gardens and parking lots are all viable launchpads.

In fact, Martin believes that the jetpack's ability to land in confined spaces will be its selling point, not aimed at millionaires as an expensive toy, but the emergency services.

"I think the first responders will see that as a massive improvement to their capability," Peter Coker, chief executive of Martin told Reuters. "Naturally for the ambulance service getting to a point of importance of rescuing people in the shortest possible time [is crucial]."

The jetpack will ship for emergency services in the second-half of 2016, with a personal version scheduled to be released the following year.

New Zealand-based Martin Aircraft recently floated on the Australian stock exchange, seeing a $50m investment from Chinese aerospace company Kuang-Chi Science, valuing Martin at $100m. It began taking orders earlier this year, and has been showing off a simulator of the jetpack at airshows including Paris.


http://youtu.be/i8gncCih7Js

Linkin

Komentar čitaoca na sajtu čiji si link dao:

It's not a jetpack, it's a small light aircraft where the pilot is strapped to the outside.

Brate, ovo je pokretljivo k'o helikopter. Samo što, troši više, a nosi manje ljudi. To su mogli pustiti u prodaju i pre 50 godina. 8-)

Ako nije neki hoax, preko žice i kanapa, k'o hoverboard iz Back to the Future. To je još jeftinije da se napravi.  :lol:



Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Father Jape

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34085546

3D cameras plan to save monuments from IS threat
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.


Meho Krljic

A i ovo:


Nasa starts year-long experiment to mimic life on Mars



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A team of Nasa recruits has begun living in a dome near an old volcano in Hawaii to mimic what life would be like on Mars.
The isolation experiment, which will last a year starting on Friday, will be the longest of its type attempted.
The experiment is intended to help Nasa prepare for a possible human mission to the Red Planet.
The six-strong team will live in close quarters under the dome, without fresh air, fresh food or privacy.


They closed themselves away at 1am (British time) on Saturday.
A journey outside the dome - which measures only 11 metres in diameter and is 6 metres tall - will require a spacesuit.


A French and a German scientist and four Americans - a pilot, an architect, a journalist and a soil scientist - make up the Nasa team.
The men and women will each have a small sleeping cot and a desk inside their rooms. They will also be given food packets that include powdered cheese and canned tuna.



Meho Krljic

Optužiću albanske hakere za ovo što se desilo  :lol: :lol: :lol:

mac

In other news: do kraja godine dobijamo Nike patike iz Povratka u budućnost 2. Not a moment too soon...

http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/did-nike-just-reveal-their-back-to-the-future-shoe-1729595698



Meho Krljic

Jedna od stvari koje trenutna generacija VR hardvera ne zna tačno kako da reši je i to što svi kad kažemo "virtuelna realnost" imamo na umu holodek iz Zvezdanih staza, dakle, "pravi" virtuelni prostor kroz koji se krećemo slobodno, prirodno, kao i u životu, a ono što dobijamo bude zapravo par teških naočara koje zakačimo na lice i nekakav trapav sistem kretanja gde ili sedimo u stolici i mrdamo stikove ili hodamo po sobi i molimo se bogu da žena nije razmestila hoklice po njoj čisto da nas zaebava.

Delimično rešenje je na pomolu. Ovo nije baš nešto što će sutra da se prodaje uz Playstation 4 ali je zanimljivo za videti.


http://youtu.be/cJCsomGwdk0

mac

Ja razmišljao o ovome, a oni ga već napravili. Moram sad da razmišljam o nečem drugom..

Meho Krljic

Da si na vreme zaštitio patent sad bi ih tužakao i valjao se u parama. A lepota američkog USPTO je u tome što patenti koji se danas odobravaju često uopšte nemaju obraloženje kako nešto treba da radi već je dovoljno da kažu šta to nešto treba da radi, tako da si sasvim legitimno mogao ovo da patentiraš bez ulaženja u rešavanje složenih inženjerskih izazova. Dobar broj patenata odobravanih poslednjih godina je maltene ko da ih je pisao Velja Ilić: ona mašina što ima onu ruku koja onako ide pa uvati.

Albedo 0

zar ovo nije maltene isti princip kao flight simulator za pilote?

Meho Krljic

Pretpostavljam da je nekoliko puta jeftinije.

Albedo 0

jasno je to, nego pokušavam da pokopam sve macove nade! 8-)

mac

Zavisi šta podrazumevaš pod principom. Ono što ja znam o simulatorima letenja je da su u pitanju kabine pričvršćene za pod, koje mogu malo da se nagnu na svaku stranu, da te dobro prodrmaju, i to je to. Ovo sa kablovima ne može da te prodrma (mogla bi doduše sama okačena kabina da ima neku treskalicu), ali ima više stepeni slobode, i može da ti prevrne stomak, što regularni simulatori ne mogu. Možda može tek neki vojni ili Nasin.

Meho Krljic

Živimo SF, ili smo na ivici da ga zaživimo, kad se radi o Hajnlajnovom "Čoveku koji je prodao Mesec"

Is Space Mining Legal?

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A controversial bill would give companies the right to own natural resources in space, and it may pass in the Senate by the end of September
 

If mankind is ever to become an interplanetary species, our outward expansion across the solar system probably can't be fueled by NASA funding alone. Why did the first humans venture out of Africa? What made the Europeans sail into the unknown? What drove Americans to expand across the continent? Curiosity and an adventurous spirit, yes, but more importantly: resources--be they riches, food, or fertile farmland.

Similarly, resources may be the only thing that can lure us from the comforts of Earth. Mining for lunar water could make it up to 90 percent cheaper to colonize the moon. And extracting platinum and other minerals from asteroids could propel mankind to travel beyond low Earth orbit.

At least two companies—Planetary Resources and Deep Space Industries—are openly planning to mine asteroids. The former has already launched a simple test vehicle into low Earth orbit, with more planned.

Both companies have a long way to go before their technologies will be able to visit an asteroid, assess what valuable resources it contains, and then extract those resources and deliver them back to Earth. First the companies need to clear a major legal obstacle.

The Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S., Russia, and a number of other countries have signed, specifically states that nations can't own territory in space. "Outer space shall be free for exploration and use by all States," the treaty says. "Outer space is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means."

But what does that mean for a private company?

"There is no clear-cut answer as to whether [private mining in space] is legal or not," says Frans von der Dunk, a space law professor at the University of Nebraska. "It depends on your interpretation of certain rather broad statements in the Outer Space Treaty, and it depends on your particular interests."

In May, the House of Representatives passed a bill that would give asteroid mining companies property rights to the minerals they extract from space. Called the Space Act of 2015, the bill now awaits the Senate's decision.

If the decision isn't made by the end of September or shortly thereafter, an expiring moratorium will give the Federal Aviation Administration permission to begin regulating commercial spaceflight—something conservatives have wanted to postpone so that the fledgling industry could have some time to grow.

Von der Dunk predicts the Senate will pass the bill by the end of October. After that, President Obama will have the opportunity to sign it into law or veto it.
The Space Act Of 2015
The bill (which is similar to last year's stalled ASTEROIDS Act) says that resources extracted from asteroids and other objects in space belong to the person or company who extracts them. It also would require space mining companies to "avoid causing harmful interference in outer space," and allows a company to sue others who cause "harmful interference" to space mining ventures.

"It's a very succinct act," says Von der Dunk. "That is one reason why I don't foresee many complications."

Nonetheless, it's causing a bit of an uproar in the international community, says Michael Listner, lawyer and founder of the consulting firm Space Law and Policy Solutions.
International Concerns
Planetary Resources is pleased with the bill. "The SPACE Act of 2015 is a very good foundation for future asteroid resource activities," a spokesperson told Popular Science. "If the bill passed tomorrow it would explicitly state a government position that has been implied for decades. The law would provide clarity and move this entire industry ahead very quickly."

But not everyone is enthusiastic about it. In an article in the journal Space Policy, Fabio Tronchetti, a lawyer at the Harbin Institute of Technology in China, argues that the Space Act of 2015 would violate the Outer Space Treaty. He writes:
States are forbidden from extending their territorial sovereignty over outer space or any parts of it. Despite arguments claiming otherwise this prohibition also extends to private entities.

In essence, Tronchetti argues that if the U.S. passes this bill, it will confer rights to space companies that the U.S. doesn't have the power to give.

Tronchetti also points out that the bill's concept of 'harmful interference' isn't defined, and could potentially be used to create exclusion zones around mining operations. That would go against the nature of the treaty, whose goal was to make sure space remains the "province of all mankind," open for exploration by everyone.

Although von der Dunk says that even though he doesn't see anything in the current version that clearly violates international law, it could still cause concerns overseas.

"Russia and China might consider using this as another example of the economic aggression of the U.S. and going ahead of the international law," he says.

The space mining debate probably should have started with international discussions, Tronchetti and von der Dunk agree, before going to the House and Senate.

But international consensus has been hard to come by in the past. The 1979 Moon Agreement, for example, would have limited mining in space to international governing bodies. Over the years, 16 nations have signed on to the treaty, but none of the major space-faring nations have agreed to it.

Von der Dunk says it's too late for those discussions now. "It would take years and lead to a watered-down version. We're probably going to go ahead with this."
What's The Rush?
Michael Listner has some major qualms with the bill in its current form. It requires the President to assess the international impacts of space mining and set up a regulatory structure for it within 180 days of signing the bill into law, but has no vision beyond those 180 days. "It's a short-term bill," says Listner. "I don't think it goes far enough."

For example, what is the licensing process for a company that wants to mine asteroids? Although issues such as this could be addressed in the President's 180-day report, that report, Tronchetti writes, "might not be a sufficient step to fill in the gap resulting from a near-absolute absence of a national regulatory framework governing private mining activities on asteroids." He goes on:
rather than rushing the adoption of controversial legislation dealing with extraterrestrial property rights, [the United States] should gradually develop a national regulatory framework to manage (non-governmental) activities on celestial bodies, including the establishment of technical and safety standards as well as of licensing procedures.

"There are just too many questions," says Listner. "It conjures rights out of thin air, and has no supporting infrastructure."

If the bill does get through the Senate, there's no guarantee that President Obama will sign it into law. Although he's supported SpaceX's commercial spaceflight ventures, the international ramifications plus Democrats' calls to discuss the implications of space mining in a committee could lead the President to veto this part of the bill. If that happens, Congress would need to drum up a two-thirds majority to override the veto.

Tronchetti notes that the bill has proceeded "in a rather sudden and unexpected fashion." Despite strong opposition from Democrats, the Republican-led House pushed it through without any hearings or expert testimony.

But the bill may be more about gauging the reaction from the legal community than anything else, Listner says. "They could just be throwing mud at walls to see if anything sticks."





Meho Krljic

Pošto nisam po prirodi ciničan dobro sam se oznojio dok se nisam setio ispravne reakcije na gornji post (a pročitao sam samo naslov, da mi bude lakše):

Hoće li da 3D printuje i sterilizatore, jod, gaze i sterilne zavoje ili će to da im se dobaci padobranom?  :lol:

PTY

paaa... ja mnijem da će 3D da printuje samo one predmete koji su em odviše teški/kabasti da se nose u ruksaku, em odviše specijalizovani da budu deo obaveznog kita...

Meho Krljic

Pošto se meni ideja o univerzalnom replikatoru iz Star Trek uvek dopadala, meni se i ovo dopada: kosmonaut na kosmičkoj stanici potrebujenešto i isprinta ga na licu mesta!!!!!!!!!!! Ali sam donekle skeptičan jer mi ne deluje kao da se ovime uspešno štedi. Da bi 3D printer isprintao skalpel (odnosno dršku za isti kako se u tekstu pominje) treba mu šema, u redu, to je virtuelno i to ne zauzima prostor/ nema masu, ali treba mu i materijal. Dakle, nećeš imati "nepotrebne rezervne delove koje nikada ne koristiš" na ISS-u gde je prostor skučen i svaki kubik je dragocen, ali ćeš svejedno imati štek materijala za printer koji će ti taj prostor zauzimati a možda ga nećeš koristiti. Plus, dakako, kada iskoristiš skalpel pa ti više ne treba, on prelazi u kategoriju tih predmeta koji ti zauzimaju prostor a ne koriste se a 3D printer to ne može da reciklira.

PTY

Gospodine Krljiću, vi izgleda pomalo beznadežno kaskate za zbivanjima na koje ime topika ukazuje, jer bi u protivnom znali da 3D prineri imaju svoje de-printere, koji rade obrnutu radnju, poznatu kao reciklaža:  razgrađuju (deprintuju) nepotrebne predmete u kompaktni organski materijal (feedstock), koji se, naravno, jelte, koristi za printovanje novih predmeta.   :lol:

Meho Krljic

Dakle, treba ti još jedna mašina ili to radi sam 3D printer?

PTY

Zavisi o samom printeru, odnosno specifikacijama modela i feesdstocka kojeg koristi, naravno, no čika Mekdonald preferiše printer i deprinter striktno odvojene... verovatno zato što mu korisnici deprintera imaju potrebu za kabinama koje osiguravaju... erm... intimnost?   :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

Meho Krljic


PTY

 xremyb

Recimo onda samo još ovo: postojanje deprintera podrazumeva neopozivi kraj infrastrukture danas poznate kao kanalizacija.  :twisted:

PTY

zauzvrat, svaki isprintani ajtem biće čisto savršenstvo:


She dumps her armful of business suit into the deprinter. The hopper swallows it and reduces the fabric to organic feedstock. Beijaflor, Ariel's familiar, has already picked out her party frock: a 1958 Balenciaga, shoulder straps, asymmetric cut, black floral print on deep grey.

:D


Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.