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Melkor

Ne preterujmo sa teorijama zavere. Novakovic je pisac i dramaturg i ne vidim mesta za sumnju u njegovo autorstvo. O kvalitetu tog pisanja mozemo raspravljati (posto procitamo roman). Sto se tice politicke projektnosti tek to nema veze sa prethodne dve stavke.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Quote from: Mica Milovanovic on 17-11-2010, 01:02:07
Nisam tebi rekao nego Lidiji. Tvoju primedbu sam sasvim dobro razumeo. :)


Pa, eto, ako je suditi po ranim reakcijama, slutim da će ova nagrada Aleksandra dosta koštati.
S druge strane, sve što ga ne ubije učiniće ga jačim, a pominjane reakcije će mu svakako ponuditi obilje prilika da izbliza proučava razna stanja ljudskog duha. :)

Kunac

Quote from: Melkor on 17-11-2010, 18:55:32
Ne preterujmo sa teorijama zavere. Novakovic je pisac i dramaturg i ne vidim mesta za sumnju u njegovo autorstvo.
Novaković je izuzetno prolifičan autor. Tako sam bar ja čuo - i to od njegovih prijatelja/poznanika. Čovek je napisao na stotine drama, na primer. Melkor je u pravu kada kaže da ne treba sumnjati da je AN napisao Vođu.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Melkor

2010 BSFA Awards Best Novel Nominees

Paolo Bacigalupi – The Windup Girl (Orbit)
Lauren Beukes – Zoo City (Angry Robot)
Ken Macleod – The Restoration Game (Orbit)
Ian McDonald – The Dervish House (Gollancz)
Tricia Sullivan – Lightborn (Orbit)

Best Short Fiction

Nina Allan – 'Flying in the Face of God' – Interzone 227, TTA Press.
Aliette de Bodard – 'The Shipmaker'– Interzone 231, TTA Press.
Peter Watts – 'The Things' – Clarkesworld 40
Neil Williamson – 'Arrhythmia' – Music for Another World, Mutation Press

Best Non-Fiction

Paul Kincaid – Blogging the Hugos: Decline, Big Other
Abigail Nussbaum – Review, With Both Feet in the Clouds, Asking the Wrong Questions Blogspot
Adam Roberts – Review, Wheel of Time, Punkadiddle
Francis Spufford – Red Plenty (Faber and Faber)
Jonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe – the Notes from Coode Street Podcast

Best Art

Andy Bigwood – cover for Conflicts (Newcon Press)
Charlie Harbour – cover for Fun With Rainbows by Gareth Owens (Immersion Press)
Dominic Harman – cover for The Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut (Gollancz)
Joey Hi-Fi – cover for Zoo City, by Lauren Beukes (Angry Robot)
Ben Greene – 'A Deafened Plea for Peace', cover for Crossed Genres 21
Adam Tredowski – cover for Finch, by Jeff Vandermeer (Corvus)


via Torque Control
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

ZOO CITY!!! ZOO CITY!!!  :!: :!: :|

Gaff

Nego, jesam li ja to dobro shvatio da The Restoration Game-a nema u prodaji "u kindle varijanti"?
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

PTY

nema.
a ko je Ken Macleod?

Melkor

Englez koji je svakim romanom nominovan za ponesto, uglavnom Klarka, a skoro nikad nista nije dobio. Trebalo bi da pise angazovani SF ali mi nekako uvek ispadne iz korpe za narucivanje kada se natezem sa stanjem na kreditnoj tako da nemam licno iskustvo.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Hm, long shot... nisam na njega nabasala, a to je slaba preporuka...

zakk

The finalists for the 2010 Philip K. Dick Award have been announced:

    * Yarn by Jon Armstrong
    * Chill by Elizabeth Bear
    * The Reapers Are the Angels by Alden Bell
    * Song of Scarabaeus by Sara Creasy
    * The Strange Affair of Spring Heeled Jack by Mark Hodder
    * Harmony by Project Itoh translated by Alexander O. Smith
    * State of Decay by James Knapp

The winner will be announced at Norwescon in April.
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Gaff

Quote from: zakk on 18-01-2011, 20:55:05
The finalists for the 2010 Philip K. Dick Award have been announced:

    * Yarn by Jon Armstrong
    * Chill by Elizabeth Bear
    * The Reapers Are the Angels by Alden Bell
    * Song of Scarabaeus by Sara Creasy
    * The Strange Affair of Spring Heeled Jack by Mark Hodder
    * Harmony by Project Itoh translated by Alexander O. Smith
    * State of Decay by James Knapp

The winner will be announced at Norwescon in April.



* Yarn by Jon Armstrong - http://www.tor.com/stories/2010/12/excerpt-yarn

* Chill by Elizabeth Bear - http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl/display.pperl?isbn=9780553591088&view=excerpt

* The Reapers Are the Angels by Alden Bell - http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage.aspx?isbn=9780805092431#Excerpt

* Song of Scarabaeus by Sara Creasy - http://www.harpercollins.com/browseinside/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061934735&WT.mc_id=biHTMLWidgetb8e7b019-19c8-4342-a5e4-ea3d4a510517

* The Strange Affair of Spring Heeled Jack by Mark Hodder - http://www.tor.com/stories/2010/10/spring-heeled-jack

* Harmony by Project Itoh translated by Alexander O. Smith - http://www.haikasoru.com/excerpt/excerpt-for-harmony-itoh/#more-965

* State of Decay by James Knapp - http://us.penguingroup.com/static/pages/specialinterests/scifi/2010/stateofdecay-excerpt.html

Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Mica Milovanovic

Melkore. Pogledao sam. Murakami je objavio treći deo u aprilu prošle godine. Ovo su prva dva koja su objavljena zajedno 2009.
Mica

Mica Milovanovic

Izgleda da su i njega počeli da plaćaju po broju karaktera. Čitav roman je pisan sa toliko ponavljanja da to počinja da nervira.
Mica

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

zakk

Quote@SaraCreasy: Hubby says never wake him up to tell him interesting stuff. Well, I woke him up to tell him I was nominated for the Philip K Dick award.
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

PTY

Slaba je ta Sara Creasy...

Melkor

Citala? Ja sam cuo samo za Bearovu i Hoddera.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Odustala unutar deset strana... vrlo banalan stil, bez mrve prijemčivosti. Bar meni.
Srce mi se cepa što bijem nominovanu ženskadiju ali bojim se da ni Elizabet neće isporučiti moju šoljicu čaja... :( Ima nečeg silno smarajućeg u ovom romanu, ne verujem da ću mu se vratim.

Zanima me Itoh, to bi volela da overim. I Knapp obećava, ali proveriću detaljnije tek za vikend.

Melkor

O, boze, i Bell i Knapp zombiji, Knapp jos trilogijski... sad cu da searchnem i ostale.

Edit: svi sem projekta su deo serijala... cudi me za ovu nagradu.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Znaš Melkore, ja već godinama svaku SF knjigu smatram delom serijala... eto, čekam sad da vidim šta je to dalje bilo sa Amiko, recimo.   :D


PTY


Inače, evo ti malo da primirišeš Sarin roman:

QuoteCHAPTER 1

Turquoise and black. She watches the beetle stalking over stones and dirt. Its long, feathery legs sink into apatch of woven moss and it flounders. But the harder it struggles, the more tangled it becomes. With one finger she could rescue it.

Rolling onto her back, she closes her eyes. It's been years since she felt the gentle heat of the sun on her face,and then it was a different star. It's been years since she cried. The sun dries each tear on her cheek.

She turns her head, opens her eyes to focus beyond the beetle to a seed falling in the distance, clean metal lines gleaming. Six meters long, bullet-shaped and deadly. Another falls, even farther away. And another. One thousand silent intruders drop from the sky to burrow into the planet's skin.

The beetle chirps incessantly. A distress call. But she hasn't come here to save it.

She has come to destroy.

"Gotcha!"

Edie's boot slammed into the bulkhead with a satisfying squish.

She scraped the remains of the hapless roach off her heel, wrinkling her nose and
making a mental note to inform pest control--yet again. She was so used to doing their job for them, her interface didn't skip a beat.

Below the maintenance platform, the sharp, repeating clang of something hitting hollow metal was more distracting.

"Torres!"

He didn't answer. Edie withdrew her mind completely from the clutches of the biocyph connection, feeling the remaining trickle of the datastream disperse within her mind. She leaned over the handrail and squinted into the dimly lit freight car. Torres was propped against the bottom of the ladder, directly below, throwing a kid's ball against the opposite wall.

"Can you cut that out? You're driving me and the roaches crazy."

Torres scowled, caught the ball, and stuffed it into his jacket pocket. Poor guy--the latest milit sent by CCU to stand guard while Edie went about her work on Talas Prime Station. A post so dull, he must view it as punishment.

Settling in front of the access panel, Edie pondered her next move. The call to check out a malfunctioning freight car had come through twenty minutes ago, dragging them both away from lunch, and she still hadn't figured out what was wrong. According to the log, the car's automated rails had jammed. The departures of three ships, including a schooner at the VIP dock, were delayed as they waited for cargo.

She jacked into the car's loading systems again. The stream of data flowed through her wet-teck interface. She had de-merged the program layers twice already and analyzed each tier in turn, searching for the glitch. It had to be simple. The freight loading system, though it looked like an impressively choreographed mechanical ballet from the cargo docks, was controlled by a straightforward set of routines. But this particular car ignored its instructions and refused to join
the dance.

Edie switched the loading routine back into diagnostic mode. It blinked a random
command and promptly stalled.

"Damn." She sat back on her heels and called out again. "Torres, you sure you checked those servos like I told you?"

   :roll::mrgreen:

Gaff

Quote from: Lidija on 20-01-2011, 13:28:48
Znaš Melkore, ja već godinama svaku SF knjigu smatram delom serijala... eto, čekam sad da vidim šta je to dalje bilo sa Amiko, recimo.   :D



Ne brini, imaš isti takav "može-biti-ali-i-ne-mora-biti klifhenger" i na kraju Zu sitija.  :mrgreen:
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

PTY

Quote from: Gaff on 20-01-2011, 19:57:19
Quote from: Lidija on 20-01-2011, 13:28:48
Znaš Melkore, ja već godinama svaku SF knjigu smatram delom serijala... eto, čekam sad da vidim šta je to dalje bilo sa Amiko, recimo.   :D



Ne brini, imaš isti takav "može-biti-ali-i-ne-mora-biti klifhenger" i na kraju Zu sitija.  :mrgreen:

XXI century FOX!!  :!:

PTY

Quote from: Melkor on 18-01-2011, 18:15:27
Englez koji je svakim romanom nominovan za ponesto, uglavnom Klarka, a skoro nikad nista nije dobio. Trebalo bi da pise angazovani SF ali mi nekako uvek ispadne iz korpe za narucivanje kada se natezem sa stanjem na kreditnoj tako da nemam licno iskustvo.

Zamisli, pa ja imam njegov Dark Light, i čak je upao u "za" kategoriju, ali uopšte mu nisam zapamtila ime...  :shock:

Gaff

Quote from: Lidija on 20-01-2011, 20:28:23
Quote from: Melkor on 18-01-2011, 18:15:27
Englez koji je svakim romanom nominovan za ponesto, uglavnom Klarka, a skoro nikad nista nije dobio. Trebalo bi da pise angazovani SF ali mi nekako uvek ispadne iz korpe za narucivanje kada se natezem sa stanjem na kreditnoj tako da nemam licno iskustvo.

Zamisli, pa ja imam njegov Dark Light, i čak je upao u "za" kategoriju, ali uopšte mu nisam zapamtila ime...  :shock:

To ti je druga knjiga iz trilogije Engines of Light!  :mrgreen:
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

PTY

Hvala za info... bajpasovaćemo.  :lol:

Gaff

Quote from: Lidija on 20-01-2011, 20:06:00
Quote from: Gaff on 20-01-2011, 19:57:19
Quote from: Lidija on 20-01-2011, 13:28:48
Znaš Melkore, ja već godinama svaku SF knjigu smatram delom serijala... eto, čekam sad da vidim šta je to dalje bilo sa Amiko, recimo.   :D



Ne brini, imaš isti takav "može-biti-ali-i-ne-mora-biti klifhenger" i na kraju Zu sitija.  :mrgreen:

XXI century FOX!!  :!:


Pa ekranizacija Zu Sitija bi bila genijalna. Bolje, sigurno, nego onaj film pravljen po onoj priči o nekim zmajevima, šta li... pisao neki Peilini, Pualoni, Poeloni, tako nešto... zove se Ergona, Argona, Eurogena, tako nešto...
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Perin

Eragon, Kristofer Paolini. Kao 16togodišnjak napisao prvi deo serijala. Priča i imena likova pate od neoriginalnosti (mali je bukvalno pokrao imena iz drugih, poznatih EF serijala).

Ako se uzmu godine u obzir, to i nije...toliko loše. Drugi deo serijala je ponajbolji, dok mi je treći ubio želju za čitanjem nakon stotinu strana. Eto.  :oops:

Gaff

Quote from: Perin on 20-01-2011, 22:10:41
Eragon, Kristofer Paolini. Kao 16togodišnjak napisao prvi deo serijala. Priča i imena likova pate od neoriginalnosti (mali je bukvalno pokrao imena iz drugih, poznatih EF serijala).

Ako se uzmu godine u obzir, to i nije...toliko loše. Drugi deo serijala je ponajbolji, dok mi je treći ubio želju za čitanjem nakon stotinu strana. Eto.  :oops:

lol

Znam kako se zove, nego sam hteo da dočaram svoju, blago reći, neoduševljenost i Paolinijem i Eragonom.

Nije toliko loše, u pravu si, no problem je u glavi onog koji je mislio da će od njegove knjige napraviti, pa... iole gledljiv film. Ja sam zaspao tokom filma (nisam siguran koji smajli da stavim, pa ću staviti oba).  xrofl :(
Sum, ergo cogito, ergo dubito.

Perin

Heheh, pa ja sam ga odgledao bez problema...Da da, izgleda da sam mazohista.  :?

angel011

Knjigu nisam čitala, pokušala da odgledam film... Pokušala i uz letimično bacanje pogleda dok film teče a ja radim nešto drugo... Nije išlo.

A ako govorimo o mazohizmu, kada su u vreme praznika davali prvi Twilight na televiziji, uspela sam da ga odgledam, i zaključila da ono treba uspeti. Da baš to želim da uradim (nemam pojma zašto, al' nema veze), nemam ni najblažu predstavu kako to uraditi.
We're all mad here.

Perin

A vidiš, ja sam odgledao prvi Tvajlajt ali nisam nikako mogao knjige. Prvi sam i nekako...mislim da sam došao skoro do kraja, ali nisam pročitao skroz. Ostale knjige nisam ni čitao. Prodao sam ono što sam imao iz toga serijala za budzašto.

angel011

Nisam ni ja stigla dalje od prve Twilight knjige.

A film je zapanjujući.
We're all mad here.

Usul

Quote from: angel011 on 20-01-2011, 22:49:37
Nisam ni ja stigla dalje od prve Twilight knjige.

A film je zapanjujući.

U kom smislu zapanjujuc?
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

angel011

Quote from: Usul on 21-01-2011, 04:47:59
Quote from: angel011 on 20-01-2011, 22:49:37
Nisam ni ja stigla dalje od prve Twilight knjige.

A film je zapanjujući.

U kom smislu zapanjujuc?

U smislu da sve vreme imaš osećaj da se ne dešava ama baš ništa. Ne znam kako su to postigli.

Mislim, u većini scena se zaista ništa ne dešava - oni stoje i pričaju, sede i pričaju, leže i pričaju (a ne radi se o dvanaest gnevnih ljudi koji sede i pričaju o tome hoće li klinca proglasiti krivim za ubistvo i time ga osuditi na smrt)... Ali ima i nekoliko scena u kojima bi nešto, kao, trebalo da se dešava - on je spase kad umalo da je pregazi kombi, spase je od nekih baraba koje je spopadaju, scena vampirskoj bejzbola (u njoj se čak i oseti poneka trunka energije), nju pred kamerom krvnički muči mnogo gadan vampir (lomljenje kostiju i sl.) pa se onda dobri vampiri obračunaju s njim - a i dalje imaš osećaj da se apsolutno ništa ne dešava.

Taj "ništa se ne dešava i samo po odjavnoj špici znaš da je film završen" osećaj sam imala i prilikom gledanja filmova Anga Lija, ali Twilight ga u tome žestoko šije.

Zna li neko u čemu je fora, kako se postiže taj osećaj?
We're all mad here.

M.M

Ang Liju se omakne poneki dobar film. Npr. The Ice Storm.
A za definiciju Twilighta, Angel xjap.
Nijedan poraz nije konačan.

Melkor

Karen Lord Wins Crawford Award

— posted Friday 28 January 2011 @ 9:34 am UTC

Karen Lord has been named the winner of the 2011 William L. Crawford Award for her first novel Redemption in Indigo (Small Beer Press). The award, presented annually at The International Conference on the Fantastic in the Arts, is for a new fantasy writer whose first book appeared in the previous year. This year's conference will be held March 16-20, 2010 in Orlando FL.

The award committee shortlisted Lauren Beukes's Zoo City (Angry Robot), N.K. Jemisin's The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms (Orbit), and Anna Kendall's Crossing Over (Gollancz/Viking Juvenile), and wanted to commend two other authors: Robert Jackson Bennett for Mr. Shivers (Orbit) and Amelia Beamer The Loving Dead (Night Shade), which was viewed by some nominators as centrally a science fiction work. Science fiction is excluded under the terms established by the award's founding sponsor, Andre Norton.

Those participating, in varying degrees, in this year's nomination and selection process included Niall Harrison, Cheryl Morgan, Graham Sleight, Paul Witcover, John Clute, Jonathan Strahan, Liza Trombi, Farah Mendlesohn, Ellen Klages, and Kelly Link (who, as publisher of Small Beer Press, recused herself from final voting).

Ih, k'o da sam znao, nedavno mi stigla knjiga  8-)
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

BSFA 2010 Awards - Shortlist


Best Novel
Paolo Bacigalupi – The Windup Girl (Orbit)
Lauren Beukes – Zoo City (Angry Robot)
Ken Macleod – The Restoration Game (Orbit)
Ian McDonald – The Dervish House (Gollancz)
Tricia Sullivan – Lightborn (Orbit)

Best Short Fiction
Nina Allan – 'Flying in the Face of God' – Interzone 227, TTA Press.
Aliette de Bodard – 'The Shipmaker'– Interzone 231, TTA Press.
Peter Watts – 'The Things' – Clarkesworld 40
Neil Williamson – 'Arrhythmia' – Music for Another World, Mutation Press

Best Non-Fiction
Paul Kincaid - Blogging the Hugos: Decline, Big Other
Abigail Nussbaum - Review, With Both Feet in the Clouds, Asking the Wrong Questions Blogspot
Adam Roberts - Review, Wheel of Time, Punkadiddle
Francis Spufford – Red Plenty (Faber and Faber)
Jonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe the Notes from Coode Street Podcast

Best Art
Andy Bigwood – cover for Conflicts (Newcon Press)
Charlie Harbour – cover for Fun With Rainbows by Gareth Owens (Immersion Press)
Dominic Harman – cover for The Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut (Gollancz)
Joey Hi-Fi –cover for Zoo City, by Lauren Beukes (Angry Robot)
Ben Greene – 'A Deafened Plea for Peace', cover for Crossed Genres 21
Adam Tredowski – cover for Finch, by Jeff Vandermeer (Corvus)




Melkor

eh, sta godine obaveze cine  xfrog
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Samo ti zajebavaj za godine, kad već postaješ iz dana u dan mlađi...

PTY

Inače, BSFA dobitnike ćemo saznati 23ćeg aprila.

Melkor

I osecam se sve mladji i mladji...bar dok ne moram da se pokrenem nekamo :)
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

 :lol: jah.
a kud onda ta opaska za godine?

Melkor

Najlepse je bockati na mestima na kojima si i sam golicljiv. Poceo sam od dioptrije, ubacio geberit i lagano pocinjem da dozvoljavam sebi opaske o koncentraciji i godinama :)
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Ah, taj pressing uklapanja u ZS ambijent... :(

PTY

 :shock: :? :cry:

pazi da sam sad tek provalila...  :x

Melkor

Quote from: Lidija on 03-02-2011, 19:09:05
Ah, taj pressing uklapanja u ZS ambijent... :(

cekao sam da shvatis koliko je ovo out of character  ;)
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

PTY

Jesam, eventualno... to me i nateralo da se vratim topiku, to WTF kopkanje... :)