Treba li Polanskog pustiti na miru?

[Dry-Na-Nord]

What Whoopi Goldberg ('Not a Rape-Rape'), Harvey Weinstein ('So-Called Crime') et al. Are Saying in Their Outrage Over the Arrest of Roman Polanski

A youthful error? Yes, perhaps.
But he's been punished for this lapse--
For decades exiled from LA
He knows, as he wakes up each day,
He'll miss the movers and the shakers.
He'll never get to see the Lakers.
For just one old and small mischance,
He has to live in Paris, France.
He's suffered slurs and other stuff.
Has he not suffered quite enough?
How can these people get so riled?
He only raped a single child.

Why make him into some Darth Vader
For sodomizing one eighth grader?
This man is brilliant, that's for sure--
Authentically, a film auteur.
He gets awards that are his due.
He knows important people, too--
Important people just like us.
And we know how to make a fuss.
Celebrities would just be fools
To play by little people's rules.
So Roman's banner we unfurl.
He only raped one little girl.

Izvor

[Ghoul]

pih, bezvezni senzacionalizam.
jeftino apelovanje na emociju bombastičnom frazom 'raped one little girl'.
prc.
ta 'little girl' je bila nekoliko meseci udaljena od legalnog doba za konsenzualni sex (14 god), a sexualni čin koji se tu desio svakako nije bio 'silovanje' kakvo obično imamo na umu kada čujemo tu gnusnu reč, i pitanje je da li je silovanje uopšte.
u najgorem - protivprirodni blud ili tako nešto.
ali sile nije bilo.

[Le Samourai]

a nije ni bila devica. a i ranije je uzimala iste droge koje joj je i on dao.

[angel011]

S obzirom na razliku u godinama, ni da je imala 14 taj sex ne bi bio legalan.

[Ghoul]

možda.
a možda bi i bio.
ali ne bi bio silovanje.

[angel011]

Mislim da bi svejedno taj sex bio statutory rape. Po zakonu.

I zar nije američki legal age nešto kasniji od 14 godina?

[Ghoul]

u srbiji je sada 14 za hetero i 16 za gay sex; a imajući u vidu koliko kasnimo za amerikom, mnijem da je tamo to bilo mnogo ranije.

[angel011]

Mislim da je u Americi 16 za bilo kakav sex, i to sa osobom koja nije više od 5 godina starija; nakon osamnaeste možeš s kim 'oćeš (ako ne naiđeš na nekog debila, kao na ženu-sudiju iz Luizijane koja nije htela da venča belkinju i crnca, al' to je potpuno druga priča).

Nemoj pogrešno da me shvatiš, ne mislim da Polanskog treba sad streljati ili kastrirati or whatever, govorim samo o pravnom aspektu stvari.

[Ghoul]

a ja samo kažem da je pesmica imbecilna i podmuklo se igra ozbiljnim rečima za jednu daleko komplikovaniju (i manje zlu) situaciju nego što je 'silovanje male curice'.

[Son of Man]

Dobro bre ljudi, svi mi volimo filmove Romana Polanskog, to nije sporno, al da je prekrsio zakon - JESTE, i to ne bi trebalo da ima nikakve veze sa njegovim zaslugama u filmskoj umetnosti a posebno hororu, jer da je neki drugi smor reziser isto to uradio, ja sam siguran da ne bi ni bilo topika, odma bismo ga svi iznapusavali...

Znaci, dobar je Roman, svaka mu cast za pojedine filmove, al' sta bi mu falilo da odlezi koji mesec, pa bre zatvor je skola zivota, a mozda bi ga to iskustvo i inspirisalo za neki novi dojajni film koji bi ga vratio u okultne vode.

Svaki pad je novo iskustvo.

[angel011]

a ja samo kažem da je pesmica imbecilna i podmuklo se igra ozbiljnim rečima za jednu daleko komplikovaniju (i manje zlu) situaciju nego što je 'silovanje male curice'.

To da.

[Dry-Na-Nord]

Senzacionalizam je ujedno i pominjanje imena slavnih ličnosti koji potpisuju peticije za oslobođenje Polanskog.

...al' sta bi mu falilo da odlezi koji mesec, pa bre zatvor je skola zivota, a mozda bi ga to iskustvo i inspirisalo...

Tomazo Kampanela, Antonio Gramši, Varg Vikernes, Kristijan Golubović i mnogi drugi dokazuju Sinovu tezu o blagotvornom uticaju kazamata na kreativnost.

[krema]

Pjesmica je sasvim ok, i Ghoul bi se nasmijao da je istomisljenik autora, ali nije, pa je odmah imbecilna...

[Ghoul]

rekao sam zašto je imbecilna: ne/slaganje s autorom nema veze.

problem je njegovo neslaganje sa faktima slučaja, tj njihovo iskrivljavanje zarad svojih jeftinih efekata.

[krema]

Pjesmica je nastala iz zajebancije, pa je tako i treba gledati, na tom nivou je simpaticna...

[Ghoul]

serem se ja na takvu zajebanciju, i one kojima je simpatična.

[mac]

Ne uspevam da pronađem neslaganje pesmice sa slučajem. Seks sa maloletnicom se tamo zove "statutory rape".

[Son of Man]

E sad cu ja da pocnem isto vako ko Ghoul Polanskog, da pravdam deda Charlija (a kao nisi to do sad radio ?) za Tate-LaBianca ubistva. 


 

[Ghoul]

Ne uspevam da pronađem neslaganje pesmice sa slučajem. Seks sa maloletnicom se tamo zove "statutory rape".

onda nek ubace u pesmicu 'statutory raped' a nek izbace 'little' iz 'little girl' pošto mala baš i nije bila (vidi slike na mom blogu u rivjuu filma).

[Dry-Na-Nord]

Vaistinu, ovu poznatu našminkanu desetogodišnjakinju odaju samo sise, tj nedostatak istih...

[Ghoul]

kakve li pak veze ima 10-godišnja bruk šilds sa 13-i-kusur-godišnjom kakosevećzvaše manekenkom koja je u tim godinama bila znatno naprednija od šildsice - ne samo po znatnim oblinama, nego i po tada-već-izgubljenoj nevinosti?

[Ghoul]

za najnotornije mazohiste i kopače po najdubljim talozima DREKA (ginger-harv, I'm looking at YOU!), evo prave stvari - jeftinoća od exploatacije nesreće polanskog u vidu 'filma':

Polanski Unauthorized!

varajeti kaže:

Roman Polanski won't lose any sleep over "Polanski Unauthorized," a basement tape-quality slum through the most famously traumatic episodes in a sensation-riddled life. Straight-to-DVD auteur Damian Chapa invested little money, and less talent, in depicting the subject's escape from the Nazis, flirtation with devil worship on "Rosemary's Baby," relationship with Sharon Tate and arrest for raping a 13-year-old girl, moments from all of which are shuffled together almost at random. With production values no better than homemade porn -- most scenes are played in front of drapes -- and dialogue that makes you feel sorry for the actors, this Friday the 13th Los Angeles vanity release isn't even fun in a bad-movie way. Paying customers will feel gypped.

Too tall and too thick through the middle to play Polanski, Chapa does have something of the horny ferret about him that convinces on that level. Sight of Polanski coming on to the underaged model while plying her with drugs and drink is particularly gross, while representations of Frank Sinatra (mulling breaking Polanski's legs) and early producers Gene Gutowski and Martin Ransohoff are ultra-ludicrous.

HAHA, USPALJENA VOLUHARICA!
SJAJNO!

a za razliku od ovoga, evo šta kaže EFILMCRITIC:

As those of you who have been reading my reviews for a while have no doubt come to know over time, I am rarely if ever daunted by the prospect of writing about a particularly awful movie--even things as atrocious as "Four Christmases," "Disaster Movie" and the oeuvre of Uwe Boll have inspired long and highly detailed analyses (perhaps too long and highly detailed, according to some people) in which I have attempted to grapple with what they were trying to achieve in the first place, explain how badly they failed to reach those goals and unload large amounts of bitter and only tenuously amusing snark. And yet, every once in a while, a movie comes around that is so awful, so incompetently conceived and executed and so lacking in even the slightest traces of taste, sanity or artistic content that even I find myself flummoxed at the very notion of attempting to convey its lousiness into a few coherent paragraphs in a way that won't leave you convinced that I have gone crazy. The staggeringly cheap and staggeringly incompetent "Polanski Unauthorized" is just that kind of film--a low-budget vanity production that attempts to recreate a number of (in)famous names and incidents without any evident point to the proceedings other than naked exploitation and does it so badly that it doesn't even work as inadvertent comedy. To describe the film as this generation's "Wired" hardly begins to scratch the surface. This is a movie so bad that the people who actually made "Wired" can actually look down upon it without coming across as hypocritical.
...
"Polanski Unauthorized" is the absolute pits--a piece of tasteless, borderline offensive and terminally unwatchable junk that deserves to be tossed up on the same high and dusty shelf as the ultra-tacky likes of "Survive" and "Guyana: Cult of the Damned." If you have any interest in Polanski and his life and work, there are plenty of other sources to choose from than this garbage. There is Polanski's autobiography, "Roman," a work which may inevitably be a little one-sided but which remains one of the great director autobiographies written to date. Then there is "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired," the fascinating 2008 documentary that offered up a new look at the rape case and its legal aftermath while also offering a penetrating glimpse at Polanski's life via interviews and judiciously chosen clips from his films. Then there are the numerous other biographies of Polanski that have been written over the years that have attempted to get a handle on the man and his work. Oh hell, who am I kidding? You could grab a book consisting of nothing but Polish jokes and it would still contain more incisive thought and intellectual curiosity towards Polanski than "Polanski Unauthorized." Not only that, it could probably do a better Sinatra impression as well.

[angel011]

Ferret nije voluharica.

Ferret:



Voluharica:

[Ghoul]

ma znam bre, drvena advokatkinjo, al ja namerno sve glodare koji nisu pacovi, zercovi ili veverice, zovem voluharice, iz zajebancije, a bog neka prepoznaje i razvrstava svoje puhove, voluharice, mrmote, krtice i ostalu gamad!

[angel011]

Ferret nije glodar.

[Ghoul]

ali je uspaljen kao voluharica.

[angel011]

To već ne znam, nisam imala priliku da vidim ni uspaljenu voluharicu ni uspaljenu ferret.

[Agota]

Skoro sam pogledala Wanted and desired I bila u soku da je zapravo ,,zrtvu'' dovela mama na foto- sesn i sve mi je bilo jasno.
Sta ce dete nije ono krivo,nego luda majka,pazi kod Dzeka tetreba  vodis dete da prodas ljubicice.
13 god ej ,pa ja sam se u tim godinama igrala sa barbikama.
Dovoljno mi je bilo da vidim onaj dokumentarac kako koriste decu za izbor za mis prave od dece cakijeve porno neveste, dovoljno je sto smo videli onu umnobolnu kevu iz paradis lost sto su joj odrali dete I ona pita oce biti na tv.
Covek da ne zna ko je Polanski dovoljan je jedan kadar I da vidis da je on ostecena osoba tako koja krpi zivot radeci filmove.

[Tex Murphy]

ma znam bre, drvena advokatkinjo, al ja namerno sve glodare koji nisu pacovi, zercovi ili veverice, zovem voluharice, iz zajebancije, a bog neka prepoznaje i razvrstava svoje puhove, voluharice, mrmote, krtice i ostalu gamad!

Zaboravio si hrčke. I zamorce

[Tex Murphy]

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/05/02/polanski_speaks_out/

[Tex Murphy]

- I can no longer remain silent because the United States continues to
demand my extradition more to serve me on a platter to the media of the
world than to pronounce a judgment concerning which an agreement was
reached 33 years ago.

[Tex Murphy]

Nek si im reko!

[Tex Murphy]

Polanski strikes again!

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20369437,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontent

[slavko]

A da naprave novi tribunal,sada u Sjedinjenim Državama,pa da uposle ove iz Haga kada im se već približava ostajenje bez posla?

[Paranoid]

Hapsite pedofila, neka trune u ćuzi.

[Le Samourai]

A shto se riba kresnula sa njim kad je imala 16, a u Francuskoj je age of consent 15? A shto je 4 godine kasnije sa njim snimila film? A shto se ovoga tek setila skoro 30 godina kasnije?

Odmah vadite vile a ne znate nishta o sluchaju.

[Tex Murphy]

Čuj što se sjetila 30 godina kasnije! Pa tek sad je vidjela gdje leži lova! Can you blame her?

[Le Samourai]

Ako zbog nje Polanski vishe ne snimi nijedan film  - indeed I can!

[slavko]

Za 35 godina koje sam proveo po filmskim i televizijskim ekipma sam se nagledao svega i svačega.Viđao sam ljude u njihovom najboljem i najgorem svetlu.Zloupotrebe svoga imena i statusa zbog još jedne recke,ali i bukvalna podvođenja majki,koje su želele da im ćerke ostvare njihove mladalačke snove,viđao sam devojke koje se penju da kroz prozor ulaze u sobe glumaca,producenata,ali i rasvetljivača i šofera iz ekipe.Jedino što nikada nisam video je upotreba sile.Mnogo je više pokušaja vaćarenja nego što se i pretpostavlja,ali to je stvar izbora i jedne i druge strane.Naravno da odrastao čovek ,ili žena(a i toga biva)ima prednost u odnosu na klinke i klince koji žele da su u duštvu "zvezda", a ako nema njih dobri su i ostali iz njihovog kruga,ali to sigurno nije razlog za hajke kao ova sa Polanskim.Nravno da je u pitanju lova,ali i ime koje se pojavljuje u javnosti,pa makar i posle 30 godina.

[Agota]

Čuj što se sjetila 30 godina kasnije! Pa tek sad je vidjela gdje leži lova! Can you blame her?

Čuj sto se setila!? Imucan a nemocan

[Alexdelarge]

Polanski: Jednakost polova je idiotizam

Izvor: Tanjug

Reditelj Roman Polanski smatra da su pokušaji modernog društva da izjednače polove - "čist idiotizam".

Reditelj je u subotu kada je došao na premijeru svog filma "Venus in Fur" na filmskom festivalu u Kanu, koji je adaptacija predstave Dejvida Ajvsa koja govori o temi roda, kada su ga novinari upitali za mišljenje o odnosu polova rekao da su pokušaji modernog društva da "izjednače polove" - "čist idiotizam".

On je, takođe, rekao da pilule za kontracepciju totalno menjaju žene. "Postoji još jedna stvar. Mislim da smo daleko od romantike, a to je velika šteta i mislim da je šteta to što je sada donošenje cveća damama postalo nepristojno", ocenio je reditelj filmova "Pijanista" i "Rozmarina beba".

Ovaj 79-godišnji reditelj je postao ozloglašen nakon što je 1977. godine uhapšen i osuđen za silovanje 13. godišnje devojčice.

Žrtva Samanta Gimer rekla je da namerava da napiše knjigu o tim nemilim događajima. "Venus in Fur" se nalazi u konkurenciji za Zlatnu palmu, a ime dobitnika ove prestižne nagrade biće saopšteno večeras.

http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2013&mm=05&dd=26&nav_id=717240

[Ghoul]

lepo ja govorim sve vreme, al mi neki ne veruju; možda će verovati kad vide šta o svemu ovome kaže 'žrtva':

Polanski Rape Case: 'I Don't Feel I Was a Victim'

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/roman-polanski-rape-victim-relives-history-in-new-book-a-924530.html

[Ghoul]

naravno, sve je bilo jasno još posle ovog filma, ako ne ranije:

ROMAN POLANSKI, Wanted and Desired (2008)



http://ljudska_splacina.com/2009/10/roman-polanski-wanted-and-desired-2008.html

[Meho Krljic]

A Dylan Farrow napisala otvoreno pismo javnosti u kome potvrđuje da ju je Woody Allen zbilja molestovao kao dete. Hvala Alahu, ovde se ne pominje išta više od neadekvatnog pipkanja, maženja, spavanja u istom krevetu i sličnih stvari, a žena je izrasla u socijalno funkcionalnu osobu, dakle, ovo je maltene "manji" slučaj seksualne zloupotrebe deteta, ako je gradaciju uopšte razumno praviti. Ipak, imati na umu.

An Open Letter From Dylan Farrow

(A note from Nicholas Kristof: In 1993, accusations that Woody Allen had abused his adoptive daughter, Dylan Farrow, filled the headlines, part of a sensational story about the celebrity split between Allen and his girlfriend, Mia Farrow. This is a case that has been written about endlessly, but this is the first time that Dylan Farrow herself has written about it in public. It's important to note that Woody Allen was never prosecuted in this case and has consistently denied wrongdoing; he deserves the presumption of innocence. So why publish an account of an old case on my blog? Partly because the Golden Globe lifetime achievement award to Allen ignited a debate about the propriety of the award. Partly because the root issue here isn't celebrity but sex abuse. And partly because countless people on all sides have written passionately about these events, but we haven't fully heard from the young woman who was at the heart of them. I've written a column about this, but it's time for the world to hear Dylan's story in her own words.)

What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.
For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn't like. I didn't like how often he would take me away from my mom, siblings and friends to be alone with him. I didn't like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn't like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear. I didn't like it when he would place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn't keep the secret anymore.

When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn't know the firestorm it would trigger. I didn't know that my father would use his sexual relationship with my sister to cover up the abuse he inflicted on me. I didn't know that he would accuse my mother of planting the abuse in my head and call her a liar for defending me. I didn't know that I would be made to recount my story over and over again, to doctor after doctor, pushed to see if I'd admit I was lying as part of a legal battle I couldn't possibly understand. At one point, my mother sat me down and told me that I wouldn't be in trouble if I was lying – that I could take it all back. I couldn't. It was all true. But sexual abuse claims against the powerful stall more easily. There were experts willing to attack my credibility. There were doctors willing to gaslight an abused child.
After a custody hearing denied my father visitation rights, my mother declined to pursue criminal charges, despite findings of probable cause by the State of Connecticut – due to, in the words of the prosecutor, the fragility of the "child victim." Woody Allen was never convicted of any crime. That he got away with what he did to me haunted me as I grew up. I was stricken with guilt that I had allowed him to be near other little girls. I was terrified of being touched by men. I developed an eating disorder. I began cutting myself. That torment was made worse by Hollywood. All but a precious few (my heroes) turned a blind eye. Most found it easier to accept the ambiguity, to say, "who can say what happened," to pretend that nothing was wrong. Actors praised him at awards shows. Networks put him on TV. Critics put him in magazines. Each time I saw my abuser's face – on a poster, on a t-shirt, on television – I could only hide my panic until I found a place to be alone and fall apart.
Last week, Woody Allen was nominated for his latest Oscar. But this time, I refuse to fall apart. For so long, Woody Allen's acceptance silenced me. It felt like a personal rebuke, like the awards and accolades were a way to tell me to shut up and go away. But the survivors of sexual abuse who have reached out to me – to support me and to share their fears of coming forward, of being called a liar, of being told their memories aren't their memories – have given me a reason to not be silent, if only so others know that they don't have to be silent either.
Today, I consider myself lucky. I am happily married. I have the support of my amazing brothers and sisters. I have a mother who found within herself a well of fortitude that saved us from the chaos a predator brought into our home.
But others are still scared, vulnerable, and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. The message that Hollywood sends matters for them.
What if it had been your child, Cate Blanchett? Louis CK? Alec Baldwin? What if it had been you, Emma Stone? Or you, Scarlett Johansson? You knew me when I was a little girl, Diane Keaton. Have you forgotten me?
Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.
So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.
Are you imagining that? Now, what's your favorite Woody Allen movie?

[Father Jape]

Amanda Palmer šerovala taj, ali i ovaj tekst:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

U svakom slučaju, onolika histerija na Tviteru sugeriše da mnogi nisu naučili kao deca da odvoje čoveka od njegovog dela. 

[Meho Krljic]

I Vudi se oglasio. Veli da lažu i da je to sramota.


Woody Allen: Farrow claims 'untrue,' 'disgraceful'

NEW YORK (AP) — Woody Allen called Dylan Farrow's allegations of child molestation "untrue and disgraceful," signaling that he would fight renewed claims dating back to Allen's tempestuous relationship with actress Mia Farrow in the early 1990s.

The movie director's publicist Leslee Dart said in an email Sunday that Allen has read Dylan Farrow's open-letter, published online Saturday by The New York Times, claiming she was sexually assaulted when she was 7 by her then adoptive father.
"Mr. Allen has read the article and found it untrue and disgraceful," Dart said.
Allen's lawyer, Elkan Abramowitz, also reacted: "It is tragic that after 20 years a story engineered by a vengeful lover resurfaces after it was fully vetted and rejected by independent authorities. The one to blame for Dylan's distress is neither Dylan nor Woody Allen."
Dylan Farrow claimed that in 1992 at the family's Connecticut home, Allen led her to a "dim, closet-like attic" and "then he sexually assaulted me." Farrow didn't specify Allen's actions, but described other abusive behavior.
Ronan Farrow, the son of Allen and Mia Farrow (though she has said her ex-husband Frank Sinatra could be the father), said on Twitter on Sunday: "I love and support my sister and think her words speak for themselves."


Allen was investigated on child molestation claims for the 1992 accusation, but was never charged.
Dylan Farrow's open-letter didn't urge renewed legal action, but a retrial for Allen in the court of public opinion. Farrow, who now lives in Florida, is married, and goes by another name, argued for fans of Allen's movies and actors who star in his films not to "turn a blind eye."
On Sunday, Sony Pictures Classics, which regularly distributes Allen's films including his latest, "Blue Jasmine," urged caution in any rush to judgment.
"This is a very complicated situation and a tragedy for everyone involved," the company said in a statement. "Mr. Allen has never been charged in relationship to any of this, and therefore deserves our presumption of innocence."
Alec Baldwin, who has starred in Allen films, including "Blue Jasmine," was among those Farrow singled out in her letter. Baldwin responded on Twitter to those demanding a comment from him.
"You are mistaken if you think there is a place for me, or any outsider, in this family's issue," said Baldwin.
Dylan Farrow's most detailed account of the 1992 incident returned the spotlight to the original police investigation of Allen. The handling of the investigation was criticized after Litchfield County state attorney Frank S. Maco said in a press conference that he believed there was "probable cause" to charge Allen but decided against prosecution partly to avoid a traumatic trial for the young girl.
A disciplinary panel found that Maco may have prejudiced the ongoing custody battle between Allen and Mia Farrow by making an accusation without formal charges.
Months before Maco's press conference, a team of child abuse specialists from Yale-New Haven Hospital were brought in to the case and concluded that the child had not been molested.
Maco, who retired in 2003, told the AP on Sunday that the statute of limitations on Dylan Farrow's accusations ran out at least 15 years ago. He said he hopes Farrow was able to watch his news conference and read his statement about his decision not to prosecute Allen.
"I hope she has access to that statement, to know what I did and why I did it," Maco said. "I hope she finds some peace and solace at this time."
A spokesman for the Connecticut Division of Criminal Justice said Sunday that the prosecutor's office won't re-examine the case unless the office is asked to.
The 1992 allegation came shortly after Allen became involved with Mia Farrow's adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn. Allen, then in his mid-50s, was not the adoptive father of Previn, who was about 19 at the time. The two married in 1997 and have two adopted daughters.

[Meho Krljic]

Plot se zgušnjava

Dylan Farrow's Brother Moses Says Mia Farrow, Not Woody Allen Was Abusive

The entire Farrow family isn't taking sides against Woody Allen.
After Dylan Farrow penned an open letter revealing details of the sexual abuse she claims happened 20 years ago at the hands of her adopted father Allen, her brother Ronan and mother Mia Farrow both are standing by her side.
One of her other brothers - Moses Farrow, a family therapist - is not. He says he is now able to see the other side of things, and it was Mia Farrow who was abusive, not Allen.
"Of course Woody did not molest my sister," Moses, 36, told People magazine.
He continued, "My mother drummed it into me to hate my father for tearing apart the family and sexually molesting my sister. And I hated him for her for years. I see now that this was a vengeful way to pay him back for falling in love with Soon-Yi."
Read: Mia Farrow Says Dyaln's Molestation Claims Against Woody Allen 'Not About Me, It's Her Truth'
Woody Allen, 78, and Mia Farrow, 68, split in 1992, after the director began a relationship with Farrow's adopted daughter Soon-Yi Farrow Previn. Allen was never charged with any molestation and married Soon-Yi in 1997.
"It is tragic that after 20 years a story engineered by a vengeful lover resurfaces even though it was fully vetted and rejected by independent authorities. The one to blame for Dylan's distress is neither Dylan nor Woody Allen," Allen's attorney Elkan Abramowitz said in a statement to CNN.
But Mia Farrow is asserting that Dylan's claims are true that when she was 7 years old, Allen led her to a "dim, closet-like attic" and "then he sexually assaulted me."
Moses doesn't believe this happened to his sister.
"[Dylan] looked forward to seeing [Allen] when he would visit," he said. "She never hid from him until our mother succeeded in creating the atmosphere of fear and hate towards him. The day in question, there were six or seven of us in the house. We were all in public rooms and no one, not my father or sister, was off in any private spaces. My mother was conveniently out shopping. I don't know if my sister really believes she was molested or is trying to please her mother. Pleasing my mother was very powerful motivation because to be on her wrong side was horrible."
Related: Dylan Farrow Resurrects Allen Molestation Claims
Moses added that his home with Mia Farrow at the helm was never a happy one. and in fact, she was the abusive one.
"From an early age, my mother demanded obedience and I was often hit as a child," he added. "She went into unbridled rages if we angered her, which was intimidating at the very least and often horrifying, leaving us not knowing what she would do."
He even said that distancing himself from his mother "has led to a positive reunion with my father."
Dylan asserts to People magazine that she was "never coached."
"My memories are the truth and they are mine and I will live with that for the rest of my life," she said. "I can't stay silent when my family needs me and I will not abandon them like Soon-Yi and Moses. My brother is dead to me."
Defending Moses' claims against Mia, Dylan Farrow said, "My mother is so brave and so courageous and taught me what it means to be strong and brave and tell the truth even in the face of these monstrous lies."
There is no additional comment from Woody Allen at this time. Allen has consistently denied the abuse allegation and Connecticut authorities two decades ago concluded there was no evidence to pursue charges.
Efforts to reach Mia Farrow were not successful, including calls to her home, calls to former lawyers and former agents. Farrow, who has been vocal about the alleged abuse, has been tweeting today, but not about Moses' interview with People.

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Roman Polanski's Victim Samantha Geimer Reacts to Extradition Ruling

by CASSANDRA VINOGRAD

Roman Polanski's victim, Samantha Geimer, says she's "very pleased" a Polish court rejected a U.S. extradition request for the famed director, calling the decades-long legal battle a "travesty" that has brought unnecessary harm.

U.S. prosecutors have repeatedly tried to extradite Polanski over his 1977 sex-crime conviction. When a Polish judge on Friday rejected the latest extradition request, Polanski said he felt "relief" — a sentiment Geimer echoed.

"I believe they did the right thing and made the right decision given all the facts," she told NBC News in an exclusive interview. "Since I'm well aware of how long this has been going on, I'm very pleased and happy."

Geimer, 52, said that's partially for "selfish" reasons — the media attention around each twist and turn of the nearly 40-year saga has been horrible for her and her family.

"Everyone wants to use the most sensational words they can," she explained in a phone interview. "It's unpleasant to be talked about in those terms."

Samantha Geimer appeared on NBC News' "Today" show in 2013. Peter Kramer / NBC, file
She's also mindful of how the case has impacted Polanski and his loved ones, even if she doesn't feel she knows him "personally" so many years later.

"I'm sure he's a nice man and I know he has a family and I think he deserves closure and to be allowed to put this behind him," Geimer said. "He said he did it, he pled guilty, he went to jail. I don't know what people want from him."

Polanski was accused of plying his then-13-year-old victim with champagne and drugs at a Los Angeles photo shoot, taking topless photos and having sex with her. He pleaded guilty to unlawful sex with a minor in 1977 and served 42 days in prison.

The acclaimed filmmaker fled the country the following year out of fear the judge would overrule the deal and send him back behind bars — and U.S. authorities have been pursuing him ever since.

The result, Geimer told NBC News, has put her and Polanski in an unlikely place.

"We somehow ended up on the same side," she explained. "Things have to go pretty wrong for them to end up this way."

According to Geimer, the case has been an expensive and torturous attempt at grabbing headlines instead of pursuing justice.

"It's a joke. A travesty," she said. "Hollywood justice at its finest."

That's why she wants the L.A. County District Attorney to stop pursuing extradition and to "honor the deal that was made" — or sentence Polanski in absentia to time served.

The district attorney's office also should be investigating allegations of prosecutorial misconduct which have dogged the case and been central to Polanski's legal strategy, Geimer said.

"BAD STUFF HAPPENS TO PEOPLE"

However, Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey told The Associated Press after Friday's ruling that she was disappointed but would continue to pursue the case "because justice has never been served."

To Geimer, that's "doing a disservice" to the people of Los Angeles.

"If they're going to waste time and money they should be spending it on helping people right now, today, that need help — not going for a publicity grab at everybody else's expense," she said. "Right now something terrible is happening to someone in Los Angeles — right now a woman needs help."

That doesn't mean Geimer has forgotten what happened.

"There's absolutely no way to not call it rape because that's what it was," she said of the 1977 incident that launched the legal battle. "But I recovered from what happened that night a long time ago... Bad stuff happens to people. Worse stuff happens to people."

What came after the rape — the legal machinations, sensational headlines, endless news cycle — was also deeply traumatic, Geimer noted, and it's still not over for her or Polanski.

"I feel a kinship with him having been through this," she said. "He has apologized to me, he has treated me kindly and with respect, and I'm unaware that he's ever done anything untoward to anyone else."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/roman-polanskis-victim-samantha-geimer-reacts-extradition-ruling-n455011

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