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pazi kad su truli danci uspeli čak i staloneovog poe-ravena da udenu ovde! :)
o vilisu švarcenegeru da i ne govorimo!
Mi lajk it!
A staaalno se [pitao kako to da Stallone i Svarci nikad nisu zajedno snimali... bili bi drim tim...
... sad u penziji, malo mi okasnilo...
najveci propust20 og veka!
The Expendables - Trailer , Release date: April 23, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXfOVNghWhk#normal)
hm, čudno da švarcija i vilisa nisu stavili u trejler (ili je bilo toliko brzo da su mi promakli?) - jes da imaju samo kameo, al opet, i to je nešto, publika se navlači i sitnim forama.
inače, u srbiji ovo mora da se prikazuje jedino pod naslovom OTPISANI.
hej, pa i ovo je jedan dobar trejler... :)
držim fige da i film bude isto tako dobar.
Day 1 of 5: STALLONE answers AICN Reader Questions! Bruce Lee, Horror, POE, Venezuela, I. Basterds, EXPENDABLES & More!!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45922)
Dir: Sylvester Stallone. US. 2010. 103mins
Surely never before has there been gathered together on screen such a macho collection of hulking action heroes...tattooed up to the hilt, muscles oiled and guns locked'n'loaded, this bruising band of brothers will undoubtedly strike box office jackpot in terms of appealing to action-loving film fans desperate for a fix of explosions, bloodshed and extreme male bonding.
The film succeeds as a piece of bombastic entertainment thanks to the sheer physical presence of its hulking heroes.
As subtle as a Kevlar-clad sledgehammer, The Expendables is a celebration of unbridled testosterone...an old-fashioned and occasionally very bloody action-thriller that delivers exactly what it says on the tin. There are vague attempts at plot twists and loose character development, but in the end noisy action mayhem is all that counts. Lionsgate opens the film in the US and UK as part of a co-ordinated attack on cinema screens worldwide through August.
Action fanboys have been lusting after The Expendables on-line ever since the tasty teaming of the likes of Sylvester Stallone, Jason Statham, Dolph Lundgren, Jet Li, Steve Austin, Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger was first mooted. And while the much-hyped on-screen coming-together of Stallone, Willis and Schwarzenegger amounts to just one rather unimportant scene, the rest of the film certainly delivers in terms movie mayhem.
The Expendables are a team of mercenaries led by Barney Ross (Stallone). His team consists of former SAS man Lee Christmas (Statham), martial arts expert Yin Yang (Li), weapons specialist Hale Cesar (Crews), demolitions man Toll Road (Couture) and sniper Gunnar Jensen (Lundgren). But when pill-popping Jensen takes the bloodshed too far after one mission he is ejected from the team.
After Ross is approached by the CIA to overthrow ruthless dictator General Garza (David Zayas) who rules the South American island of Vilena, he and Christmas pose as the most unlikely pair of ornithologists to infiltrate the island. They meet up with local freedom fighter Sandra (Brazilian actress Giselle Itie), who also happens to be the General's daughter, but she opts to stay behind as the pair have to fight their way out of the country.
With their plans betrayed, the team find themselves under attack back in the US, and Sandra captured back on the island Barney decides to go back to try and save her. Naturally his team of Expendables select their favourite weapons and decide to go with him.
Despite the fact that Stallone's direction is rather workmanlike and the issue that the script feels like a discarded episode of The A-Team, the film succeeds as a piece of bombastic entertainment thanks to the sheer physical presence of its hulking heroes.
Stallone is perfect as brutally honourable Barney Ross who rediscovers a sense of duty when he meets Sandra, though perhaps best of all is Jason Statham, an action-hero from a different generation to Stallone. He gets some of the best on-screen moments – manning a machine gun from the exposed nose of a seaplane and beating-up a gang of thugs who have menaced his girl (Charisma Carpenter, from Buffy The Vampire Slayer) – and against all odds he and Stallone convince as a pair of best pals, exuding an easy comradeship and relishing in an engaging banter.
Mickey Rourke has a few nice scenes as a chopper-riding, super-cool, long-haired, tattooist whose workshop seems to be a sort of frat house for the team, while the other Expendables drift in and out of the plot. Dolph Lundgren brings a certain hulking presence, while Jet Li is underused in terms of his sublime martial arts skills. Real-life wrestler/mixed martial arts stars Randy Couture and Steve Austin get to have a suitably roughhouse fight, though former NFL football player Terry Crews' main role is to blast away with an auto assault shotgun.
The on-screen violence gets increasingly bloody as the story draws on – heads are blown off and limbs are hacked away – but The Expendables remains old-fashioned in terms of how it delivers its action, favouring stunts and explosions rather than CGI effects.
Otprilike kako smo očekivali...
Mene trejleri i dalje nisu ubedili. No, videćemo.
Ni mene. Ova rečenica je ključna
Despite the fact that Stallone's direction is rather workmanlike and the issue that the script feels like a discarded episode of The A-Team, the film succeeds as a piece of bombastic entertainment thanks to the sheer physical presence of its hulking heroes.
Trebalo je da Beju daju da ovo režira.
Kakvom crnom Beju, daleko bilo.
Ovo je realno film za Staloneta; bio on u konachnici dobar ili losh, rezhija je bila u pravim rukama.
Ne huli, Samuraje. Bej je božanstvo. Staloneov hejdej je bio & prošao.
ma da, bay bi to odradio taman. to je materijal za njega. i naravno, harlin. uvek harlin.
Bej je previshe slick, za ovo treba neko ko to radi malo sirovije. Volim i je miris The Rocka in the morning, ali nije ovo za njega.
Apropo Harlina cu se uzdrzhati od komentara imajuci u vidu legiju njegovih fanova na Sagiti. :)
Jedini odgovarajući materijal za Beja su Bad Boys filmovi, The Rock je ok film uprkos Beju, ostalo je... qpuke
Što se Harlina (a i Stalonea) tiče, ne razumem kako neko ne može da ne voli bar Cliffhanger. Uz Demolition Man, najbolji Staloneov (i ne samo Staloneov) akcijaš iz devedesetih...
Ti si još jedan od onih koji ne shvataju uzvišenost Transformers II.
Ma, ne sumnjam da se i kopajući po kontejneru može doći da nekakve spoznaje, ali to ipak nije vid zabave koji preferiram...
Ja ne da ne shvatam uzcishenost Transformersa II, vec ne shvatam Transformerse II. :(
A ja cijelo vrijeme mislim da je ovo topic o nekom crticu... :P
New U.S. Release
The Expendables
By PETER DEBRUGE
The Expendables
A Lionsgate release presented with Millennium Films of a NuImage production. Produced by Avi Lerner, John Thompson, Kevin King Templeton. Executive producers, Danny Dimbort, Boaz Davidson, Trevor Short, Les Weldon, Jon Feltheimer, Jason Constantine, Eda Kowan, Basil Iwanyk, Guymon Casady. Co-producers, Robert Earl, Matt O'Toole. Directed by Sylvester Stallone. Screenplay, David Callaham, Stallone; story, Callaham.
Barney Ross - Sylvester Stallone
Lee Christma - Jason Statham
Yin Yang - Jet Li
Gunnar Jensen - Dolph Lundgren
James Munroe - Eric Roberts
Toll Road - Randy Couture
Paine - Steve Austin
Gen. Garza - David Zayas
Sandra - Giselle Itie
Lacy - Charisma Carpenter
The Brit - Gary Daniels
Hale Caesar - Terry Crews
Tool - Mickey Rourke
A hot mess -- that's what Sylvester Stallone and friends have wrought in "The Expendables," a nearly incoherent all-stars-on-deck actioner that plays like "Grown Ups" on nitro or a brutish, blue-collar "Ocean's Eleven" (which, financially speaking, isn't a bad place to be). With no concept to go on at the screenplay level, Stallone impressively assembles a never-before-seen tough-guy lineup the likes of which B-movie fans should feel compelled to witness firsthand. Though the muddled execution falls far short of the talent involved, the Lionsgate release is loud and explosive enough that sequels will likely follow.
And what self-respecting, testosterone-producing child of the "Rambo" era wouldn't want to tag along for a mission with the likes of Barney Ross (Stallone), Lee Christmas (Jason Statham), Gunnar Jensen (Dolph Lundgren), Yin Yang (Jet Li), Hale Caesar (Terry Crews) and Toll Road (mixed martial artist Randy Couture) -- a multi-generational, cross-discipline roster of bone-crunchers, whose talents range from throwing knives to butchering the English language. But take the cast away, and there's not much more here than the straight-to-DVD schlock that has kept conspicuously absent rivals Steven Seagal and Jean-Claude Van Damme busy of late.
Scripted by Stallone and "Doom" co-writer Dave Callaham, pic tells of a mercenary team hired by the CIA to infiltrate a South American island and take out local despot Gen. Garza (David Zayas), as well as the cocaine-peddling puppetmaster (Eric Roberts) behind him. The Expendables recognize the assignment as a suicide mission, but instead of turning down the job, they decide to "make it personal."
Assurances of grade-A ass-kicking aside, why should we care? Apparently because there's a woman involved. Stallone casts Latin bombshell Giselle Itie as Garza's daughter, Sandra; he might just as easily have chosen a 12-year-old, as she holds neither sexual nor romantic interest for the gang, serving instead as a symbol of the purity these guys lack.
The key to the entire movie can be found in a dialogue scene between Stallone and Mickey Rourke, playing a tattoo artist named Tool, now retired from mercenary duty. Tool tells Barney of a defining moment in his past, when he spotted a woman about to commit suicide; had he intervened, Tool might not have saved his own soul from damnation, but he surely could have saved hers. Sandra is Barney's endangered soul.
It's preposterous, pure and simple, that Barney would turn down a $5 million payday, then do the job anyway just for Sandra's sake, and the script does nothing to sell the idea -- not that plausibility seems to have been much of a concern. Basically, the plot serves merely to support the action sequences, which makes it all the more curious that more than 30 minutes go by between the opening setpiece (aboard a pirated vessel off the coast of Somalia) and the next explosion.
Featuring pyrotechnic displays over-the-top enough to alter the planet's orbit, the aesthetic here is very much in keeping with the '80s action pics that established Stallone's career, save for the use of digital blood in lieu of old-school squibs. When the Expendables shoot anonymous evil henchmen, they don't just die, they erupt, sending a shower of virtual viscera across the screen -- a distractingly artificial way of rendering violence presumably intended to appear more realistic (for those who've wondered what a knife to the throat or a mini-cannon to the head might look like).
When the movie isn't in fight mode (and be warned, it's as gratuitous with futile plot- and character-building scenes as it is with gore), its chief running gag involves getting the characters to hurl insults at one another -- the idea being that auds will enjoy watching these guys lob locker-room taunts as much as the cast appreciated having the chance to tease one another. (While age and ego are prime targets, no one dares make fun of how Stallone runs or the fact that we practically need subtitles to decipher all those heavy accents.)
Undaunted by the fact that most of his leads are past their prime, Stallone manages to get the most out of them physically. He's hardest on himself, and reportedly suffered several injuries in an intense fight with wrestling star Steve Austin, who plays a sadist named Paine (what else?). At various points, he stages one-on-one clashes between heavyweights (other key matchups being Lundgren vs. Li and Couture vs. Austin), though most of the time, he has everyone fighting at once.
That approach might've worked had the editors assembled all that footage in such a way that we could tell where characters are in relation to one another or what's going on. While Brian Tyler's temp-sounding score beats its drums and blows its horns in support, pic crams sequences of rapidly cut, high-energy moments down our throats, such that the effect begins to resemble the waterboarding Sandra's character endures in one particularly unpleasant scene.
With "The Expendables," Stallone makes the point that Hollywood wouldn't be the same without these action heroes. As for their big group effort? Not so indispensable.
Camera (color, widescreen), Jeffrey Kimball; editors, Ken Blackwell, Paul Harb; music, Brian Tyler; production designer, Franco-Giacomo Carbone; supervising art directors, Drew Boughton, Scott Plauche; art director, Andy Rhodes; set decorator, Bob Gould; sound (Dolby Digital/DTS), Paul Ledford; supervising sound editor, Christopher Eakins; re-recording mixers, Chris David, Gabriel J. Serrano; visual effects supervisor, Wes C. Caefer; visual effects, Worldwide FX; stunt coordinator, Chad Stahelski; associate producer, J. Celester Salzer; assistant director, Richard Fox; second unit director, Spiro Razatos; second unit camera, Matt Leonetti Sr.; casting, Deborah Aquila, Tricia Wood. Reviewed at Mann Chinese 6, Hollywood, Aug. 3, 2010. MPAA Rating: R. Running time: 103 MIN.
With: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis.
valjda će biti bolji od maćetea.
mada, ja bih pre pare stavio na čiča marina i dona džonsona nego na ove staloneove islužene veterane, roid ragere, lažnog lija (a samo vlada džet je pravi džet) i statama kada nije u cranku.
roid rageri i ememejovci su i meni problem. zastrašujući su mi na potpuno pogrešan način.
Jel fali nekom ovde jos nekih likova?
:)
Ja bih jos najmanje cetvoricu....Zan Klod Van Dam...
i mozda jos nekog fajtera...
Vesli Snajps? De se on izgubi?
Van Dama je Stalone zvao al ovaj izgleda misli da ne spada u ovu grupu. Ili da ima karijeru kojoj bi ovaj film naštetio...
možda je čitao staloneov talkback na aicnu povodom poslednjeg rokija kada je slaj njega i sigala sortirao u niži tier u odnosu na sebe.
Moguće. Šteta je što ovde nema Sigala, though.
Vesli Snajps je trebao igrati ovde, ali film se snimao u Južnoj Americi, a on nije mogao napuštati SAD zbog problema sa zakonom.
Osim Van Dama i Sigala fali svakako i Čak Noris.
Van Dam je odbio ulogu.
U planu je bio i Kurt Rasel, ali ni njega nema u konačnoj podjeli.
Van Damme je u to vreme imao JCVD i bio je u fazonu da ide drugom spiritualnom stazom. Što se Wesleya tiče, on je imao dozvolu da putuje ali samo radi posla. Kada je to prekršio pojavivši se na nekoj žurci u Dubaiju, stvari su se iskomplikovale.
Seagal je odustao jer nije u najboljim odnosima sa producentom Avi Lernerom. On je valjda trebalo da igra Willisovog lika.
S obzirom na Sigalovu ličnost, verujem da bi bilo teško naći producenta sa kojim on jeste u dobrim odnosima...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46060 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46060)
http://entertainment.todaysbigthing.com/2010/08/06?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily (http://entertainment.todaysbigthing.com/2010/08/06?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily)
Što se mene tiče, očekujem da će ovo biti remek delo o kome kojekakvi Majklbejevi i Dabljunekikuracandersonovi mogu samo da sanjaju i koji takvim projektima ne bi trebalo ni da prismrde. Ako se ovo pretvori u franšizu, drugi deo bi trebalo da režiraju Niveldajn i Tejlor, a potonje nastavke Mark Lester i Sem Frstenberg, pa da je na petom delu rezurektuje Slaj. Ako to sve ne prekine ona najavljivana kataklizma oko mog 42. rođendana, posle toga mogu polako u mirovinu.
Moram da se pofalim da idem sutra da gledam P(l)aćenike, big screen and all that shit, a slomljene kosti ćemo brojati naknadno.
Ti uvek imaš pozitivnu predrasudu prema naslovima MCF Megacoma :)
Oni drže nezavisnu listu, a ti kao stari punker voliš nezavisno. U suštini THE EXPENDABLES je nezavisni film.
Javi kakav je.
Biće dobar lov, siguran sam.
Expendables isporučio i to big time! Posle mnogo vremena dogodilo se da sa žarkom željom odem nešto da gledam i da sva predubeđenja i sva očekivanja, kako pozitivna tako i negativna, budu ispunjena. Ovo je film u 80s setingu, snimljen ranih devedesetih i malo doteran i izmontiran početkom ovog veka. Uspeo je da nagura trideset godina akcionog filma u jedno, a da to ne bude toliko papazjanija koliko thrill-ride.
Ako ima nekog ko prati moja povremena pisanja zna da ne volim moderne blokbasterske krljačine, ali mi je bezumna zabava čisto testosteronskih filmova srcu draga. I ono što poštujem jeste samosvesnost. Ovde toga ima u dovoljnoj meri da nazovem film sasvim uspelim. Problema ima, pre svega zbog prevelikog broja likova. Nije problem u zvezdama koje se guraju i smetaju jedna durogj, koliko je teško napraviti koreografiju borbe kad toliko bitnih likova učestvuje i onda to snimiti tako da se dobije koherentna celina. A film se trudi da to uradi, to ne mogu da poreknem, likovi pomažu jedni drugima i nema one iritirajuće akcije jedan-na-jedan u grupnim scenama, već su tuče ponekad na ivici haosa.
Ima potpuno blesavih momenata koji bi u starom "20. oktobru" ili "Drini" izmamljivali spontane aplauze, kurčenja na kub, svi likovi su mnogo kul osim Dolfa Lungrena koji je nešto kao negativac ali ladno isporučuje najbolju ulogu u karijeri. Što nije preterano teško, reći će zlobnici, ali ipak... Matori Dolf trebalo bi da glumi negativce i tačka. I da... Stejtam je definitivno najveći akcioni heroj današnjice, jedan od najboljih ikad. Ima neobično snažan fizikal prezens šo bi rekli Englezi, a pritom nije neuverljiv pri izgovaranju povremeno besmislenog teksta. Razmišljam nešto kako je CGI devalvirao fizičko prisustvo čoveka na ekranu, kad su uspešne akcijaše snimali Tom Kruz i naročito Kijanu Rivs. CGI-ja ovde ima više nego što se hvale, ali su likovi zajebani; tvrdim da bi ogromna većina u kafanskoj tuči izbegla i Stejtama i Lungrena i Ostina i Kruza, a o Koturu i da ne govorim, mada su njegove glumačke mogućnosti najlimitiranije. To jest, nisu njihovi likovi, tako kako su napisani zajebani: zajebani su oni kao likovi.
Da nema nekog sranja o zlim Srbima, utisak bi mi bio potpuno pozitivan. Da se razumemo, ovo je CHEX samo uzgred, nešto što se podrazumeva, pa ako se o širim implikacijama ne razmišlja mnogo i ne smeta mnogo.
JJEEE~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xrofl xcheers :D xdrinka
Nine Thoughts on The Expendables
by Lindy West (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author?oid=21605 (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author?oid=21605))
1. The Expendables was written by Sylvester Stallone. It was also directed by Sylvester Stallone. Sylvester Stallone is the star of the film. Often, the camera lingers on Stallone's bee-stung pout as he attempts to squeeze emotions out of it. He saves the girl. He fights really well. In addition to writing, directing, acting, pouting, fighting, and saving, he also appears to have done his own plastic surgery—and possibly Mickey Rourke's as well. I mean, really, is there anything Stallone can't do?
2. YES: running. The man cannot run. He runs like a big fucking yak shot with a tranquilizer dart. He runs a lot in The Expendables. It is a terrible sight to behold.
3. The Expendables cast is an action-hero supergroup, like the Traveling Wilburys, or that time the Jetsons met the Flintstones (WHICH WAS BONKERS, BY THE WAY). Stallone plays Barney Ross, the leader of a group of topless-dudes-for-hire that includes Jason Statham, Dolph Lundgren, Jet Li, Mickey Rourke, Terry Crews, and someone named Randy Couture, who, according to my research, is like a nude wrestler or something. Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger technically appear, for a span of time not perceptible to the human eye. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin should really have his neck veins examined by a physician. Eric Roberts stars as the villain, a former CIA agent turned evil cocaine kingpin.
4. I am not convinced that this is not a documentary about Eric Roberts's actual life.
5. Kurt Russell, tragically, is nowhere to be found.
6. Banter:
Schwarzenegger: "Why don't we have deenah?"
Stallone: "Sure. When?"
Schwarzenegger: "In 1,000 yeeahs!"
7. Stallone initially tried to cast Jean-Claude Van Damme in the Lundgren role, but Van Damme turned him down because he thought the character was insubstantial. Van Damme is all about substance. Van Damme suggested that instead of making silly action movies, Stallone should "be trying to save people in South Central." Then Stallone killed Van Damme and wore his teeth as a necklace and cooked his body in a big stew, which he fed to the people of South Central. "You're welcome," he said.
8. WHAT THE FUCK IS KURT RUSSELL SO BUSY DOING?
9. Immediately after the Expendables screening, I rode the elevator to the parking garage with a group of gentlemen in their early 20s. Instead of conversing, they just stood there and made explosion and gunfire sounds at each other. "KPSSSSSSHHHHH!" "DOOOZZZHHHHHHH!" "BAP-BAP-BAP-BAP-BAP." "BVVVVV! BVVVVV! BVVVV!" That is the best distillation of this movie that I can offer. From Stallone's brain to theirs to mine to yours. recommended
Fatboy Roberts Throws Down With THE EXPENDABLES!
I love action movies. Not in the safe way that a lot of people love them; distanced, ironic, stashing their pleasure behind the descriptor "guilty," and laughing at the movie as often as they laugh with it. When I say I love "The Rock," I love it un-ironically. When I put 2008's "Rambo" on that year's 10-best list, I meantthat shit. The kineticism, the viscera, the speed, the weight – these are things action cinema can offer in ways no other genre of film can, and it's why many are willing to forgive genre classics like "Commando" for shortcomings like perfunctory plot, hammy acting and razor thin characterization. Those things are all secondary, even tertiary, to the thrill of watching people get utterly ruined in ridiculiciously brutal ways. I love a good action movie, man.
The Expendables is a big piece of shit. It couldn't be a bigger piece of shit if its name was Womack. And it's not like it had a particularly high bar to reach. I'm referencing "The Rock," but I'm not using that as the measuring stick. I'm not even using Stallone's last film, although that's a very fair comparison point. For me, personally, all this movie had to do was improve on "The Losers," Sylvain White's braindead mercs-on-a-mission film from the beginning of the summer. With that criteria? Forget generous, I was being goddamned charitable to "The Expendables," considering I thought "The Losers" sounded like a script written by a 15 year old's boner, and looked like it was directed by Tony Scott with a massive headwound. And yet "The Expendables" still falls short.
You know what's really disappointing? It's not the plotting, or the acting, or the characterization. As an action fan, I can forgive those things their absence, if the action is done properly. Well, those things are sure as shit absent from this movie, and the action is bad. Not "okay," not "serviceable." It's bad. I mentioned "Commando" earlier; this movie is like if "Commando" got sloppy drunk and started oversharing with strangers at the bar, and all you want to do is slowly slink away before something unfortunate happens. By "unfortunate," I mean the story.
Bruce Willis plays The Plot. He sends a message to Mickey Rourke, who plays Leather Gandalf, a pipe-smoking tattoo artist. Leather Gandalf passes the tip on to Sylvester Stallone, who plays Barney, a bored leader of the titular mercenary group. Stallone and Statham go scout out the mission – the assassination of a general neck-deep in the drug trade – and are met by a woman who captures Barney's heart. From there, complications in the form of Eric Roberts, Dolph Lundgren and Steve Austin arise, and we can stop talking about the story here because nobody watching will care, nobody in it cares, and it seems nobody writing it cared. It does its one real job – to provide a framework for action scenes to ripple and glisten and explode all over the screen.
Eric Roberts is okay. Jet Li very ably plays "Walking Short Joke." Randy Couture is decent as "Guy in Funny Hat Who Reads." Terry Crews gets a couple laughs as "Guy with Gun That Makes Cool Poom-Poom Noise," and splatters a few people very satisfactorily. Everyone else in the movie is pretty terrible, especially Leather Gandalf, who gets what's supposed to be a touching, heartfelt monologue about the sanctity of life, while Stallone points the camera straight at Rourke's lower lip, which is covered with more goo than a xenomorph. I guess it helps distract from the fact his story is making no fucking sense, and continues that way for what feels like 15 minutes.
But again, I'm measuring this film against stuff like "The Losers," and "Commando," not "Inception." Most of the film is incomprehensibly edited. There is none of the surety with which Stallone staged his "Rambo" set-pieces, and the movie is splattered with shiny, shitty digital gore. The best action sequence in the film was given away for free on the internet weeks before release, wherein Jason Statham mans the guns of a plan from inside the nose-cone, and lays waste to a pier full of bad guys. Nothing else in the movie works from an action standpoint, especiallythe fight scenes. Hell, there isn't a single fight in this movie that packs the punch Hit-Girl does in "Kick-Ass."
I guess that's the most disappointing thing about this movie. It's been trading on its inherent masculinity for years now, promising a throwback to the days of muscled brawlers, bludgeoning action fans into a state of bruised bliss, scored by bullets and lots of shit going boom. "The Expendables" is a sweaty, squinty, glistening cannonball of pure testosterone, shaped like a fist and shot directly at the audience, and I can't even say it hits like a girl, because I've seen 12 year old girls that hit harder than this.
Bobby "Fatboy" Roberts
intermeco.
Sly Moves by Skullqwake Sylvester Sly Stallone Bob Seger Knight Night Moves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMEqzom36m8#)
Zašto Žan-Klod Van Dam nije u Expendables?
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-why-was-jean-claude-van-damme-deemed-expendable.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-why-was-jean-claude-van-damme-deemed-expendable.html)
Basically, Van Dam je htio da zna o čemu se radi u filmu, a Stalone mu je rekao "Žan-Klode, ti si akcioni glumac koji želi da zna o čemu se radi u filmu. Meni to zvuči malo apsurdno."
Quote from: Harvester on 15-08-2010, 03:23:29Basically, Van Dam je htio da zna o čemu se radi u filmu, a Stalone mu je rekao "Žan-Klode, ti si akcioni glumac koji želi da zna o čemu se radi u filmu. Meni to zvuči malo apsurdno."
Stalone je Vukmirova škola. :)
Quote from: Milosh on 15-08-2010, 03:27:02
Quote from: Harvester on 15-08-2010, 03:23:29Basically, Van Dam je htio da zna o čemu se radi u filmu, a Stalone mu je rekao "Žan-Klode, ti si akcioni glumac koji želi da zna o čemu se radi u filmu. Meni to zvuči malo apsurdno."
Stalone je Vukmirova škola. :)
A Van Dam tvoja. Mislim Milosheva :evil:
Dobar je Van Dam.
Jeste. Ali i Stalone nije na bacanje.
At the cusp of a fifth decade of action-movie mayhem, Sylvester Stallone says his No. 1 opening with "The Expendables" ranks among his top career thrills. The muscle-bound multihyphenate chewed the fat with THR's Carl DiOrio about the successful launch of the Lionsgate-distributed picture, which follows the exploits of a group of foreign mercenaries featuring some of the past decades' biggest action stars.
THR: So "The Expendables" opened bigger than anything else you have directed. It seems you're still setting personal bests.
Stallone: I didn't do this all by myself. It was a movie about teamwork, and the team helped make it a success. I always say that if you are a star -- even a faded star -- the light never goes out. You just need to rekindle it.
THR: Have you written a script for a sequel to 'The Expendables'?
Stallone: It's plotted out in my mind's eye. I believe this group has to continue to evolve; it just can't become the same people. So how do you get new people introduced into the group, and how do you have some of the other people leaving? Those are the challenges.
THR: So the challenges remain, eh?
Stallone: My proudest moment ever was not "Rocky," it was the last Rocky picture, "Rocky Balboa." To be able to meet the challenge of completing that series after all these years, that was great. But this one here tops that -- not in an emotional way but for excitement. This should have never happened. (Producer) Avi Lerner really took a big gamble on me with this when nobody else would. I know because I heard about it every day! He kept worrying about the reviews.
THR: 'The Expendables' was never going to be a critical darling.
Stallone: Most action films tend to rub people the wrong way. This is not to disparage critics, but the more physical and brutal an action film is, the least well it is received. It's actually a barometer I use. That, and how many times I hurt myself.
THR: Things turned out well enough though.
Stallone: I never thought we would win this weekend, as we were up against some tough competition. I told Lionsgate and (CEO) Jon Feltheimer and Avi that I'm so grateful how those guys just dug in. Lionsgate hung tough and opened the purses. The campaign worked because it was honest. What you saw in the campaign was what you got. This movie is pure escapism. You just buckle up and enjoy a rocket ship ride down memory lane.
Sylvester Stallone talks 'Expendables' sequel
Actor tells THR he's ready to mint another film franchise
By Carl DiOrio
Aug 15, 2010, 02:07 PM ET
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'Expendables' tops weekend b.o. with $35 million
'Expendables' tops Friday boxoffice
At the cusp of a fifth decade of action-movie mayhem, Sylvester Stallone says his No. 1 opening with "The Expendables" ranks among his top career thrills. The muscle-bound multihyphenate chewed the fat with THR's Carl DiOrio about the successful launch of the Lionsgate-distributed picture, which follows the exploits of a group of foreign mercenaries featuring some of the past decades' biggest action stars.
THR: So "The Expendables" opened bigger than anything else you have directed. It seems you're still setting personal bests.
Stallone: I didn't do this all by myself. It was a movie about teamwork, and the team helped make it a success. I always say that if you are a star -- even a faded star -- the light never goes out. You just need to rekindle it.
THR: Have you written a script for a sequel to 'The Expendables'?
Stallone: It's plotted out in my mind's eye. I believe this group has to continue to evolve; it just can't become the same people. So how do you get new people introduced into the group, and how do you have some of the other people leaving? Those are the challenges.
THR: So the challenges remain, eh?
Stallone: My proudest moment ever was not "Rocky," it was the last Rocky picture, "Rocky Balboa." To be able to meet the challenge of completing that series after all these years, that was great. But this one here tops that -- not in an emotional way but for excitement. This should have never happened. (Producer) Avi Lerner really took a big gamble on me with this when nobody else would. I know because I heard about it every day! He kept worrying about the reviews.
THR: 'The Expendables' was never going to be a critical darling.
Stallone: Most action films tend to rub people the wrong way. This is not to disparage critics, but the more physical and brutal an action film is, the least well it is received. It's actually a barometer I use. That, and how many times I hurt myself.
THR: Things turned out well enough though.
Stallone: I never thought we would win this weekend, as we were up against some tough competition. I told Lionsgate and (CEO) Jon Feltheimer and Avi that I'm so grateful how those guys just dug in. Lionsgate hung tough and opened the purses. The campaign worked because it was honest. What you saw in the campaign was what you got. This movie is pure escapism. You just buckle up and enjoy a rocket ship ride down memory lane.
gledam ga večeras na (breogradskoj) pretpremijeri, jasvcljam utiske čim uzmognem...
Odgledano. Uživao sam, a bogami i GT2G... Mada, moglo je to i bolje. Više o utiscima: sjutra!
Film je veoma paljevinski. Sala u Ušću bila je krcata: znači imali smo prave uslove za konzumaciju jednog ovakvog naslova. Ljudi su uživali, to nije sporno. Mada, nadao sam se da će biti više bodrenja. Glavni hit je bilo pojavljivanje Švarcija i njegova razmena sa Slajem (sve uz Vilisovu superviziju). (Inače, Švarci i Vislis su u filmu samo na kratko, imaju jednu jedinu scenu - videli ste deo iste u trejleru.)
Što se glavnih baja tiče, stanje je sledeće... Slaj Stalone je u veoma lošem fizičkom stanju. Prilično je natečen (jadne njegove vene) ali se, recimo, dobro drži za čoveka svojih godina. Funkcioniše u akcionim sekvencama, to je najvažnije - mada je ovoga puta više puca nego što se bije. Stejtam je super kao i uvek. Njih dvojica (Slaj i Stejatam) su 2 glavne zvezde filma, a Džet Li im pomaže, skakuće okolo. On je, kao, comic relief. Ima dosta šala u vezi sa njegovom visinom.
Ostali plaćenici imaju manje uloge, mada je Dolf Lundgren fenomenalno iskorišćen - nećete verovati, od svih glumaca ovaj ogromni Šveđanin mi je bio najubedljiviji. Ovo će biti izuzetno važan film za njega. Miki Rork je prilično neiskorišćen, verovatno su ga sačuvali za nastavak - ima tu potencijala. Erik Roberts je (recimo) glavni negativac i ima pozamšnu ulogu.
Što se filma tiče - očekivao sam više. Ne kažem da je loš, daleko od toga, ali, na primer, poslednji Rambo mi je bio bolji bez obzira što su Plaćenici mnogo sluplji i raskošniji. Likovi i motivacije su malo šantavo postavljeni, to mi je bio glavni problem. Kao i završni obračuna - kamera se previše mrdala... No, u celini gledano::: dobar akcijaš. Ima tu šta da se voli - naročito ako ste rođeni 60-tih, 70-tih... Samo nemojte očekivati remek-delo. Nastavak bi bio super, film je prilično očigledno postavljen kao početak franšize...
Inače, u filmu se pominju "zli Srbi" s kojima su se Ros (Stalone) i Tul (Rork) svojevremeno sukobili u BiH i jedva izvukli živu glavu. Mislim da će ovaj detalj zagolicati maštu domaće publike... Sala je eksplodirala kada je na red došla ova scena...
Iako sam nedavno denunciran iznošenjem činjenice da sam poznat kao Lundgrenov fan, ja ipak moram da naglasim da on uopšte nije naivan personality actor i da od njega uvek treba dosta očekivati. To što igra u filmovima mahom ispod svojih mogućnosti je potpuno drugo pitanje...
Odličan je bio Lundgren u Johnny Mnemonic.
Jeste. I to je odličan film uprkos Keianu Rivsu u glavnoj ulozi.
...jesam uživao gledajući THE EXPENDABLES, ali mi se dpao manje no što sam se nadao...dobio ssam bučnu, raspojasanu, retro popcorn crowd pleasing fiestu, svu zasnovanu na simplifikacijama, gotovim rešenjima i neumerenostima, i to je vrlo dobra vest, ali očekivao sam (my wrong!!!) metafilm na temu starovremensko-rezurektovanih hiperakcijaša (što mi je THE UNDISPUTED 3, recimo, isporučio)... ono što je na širem planu daleko važnije, 6XPAND sala beogradskog Koloseja na toj pretpremijernoj projekciji u u utorak veče je bila krcata (raznim demografskim profilima kojima je teže dijagnostifikovati zajedničke imenitelje (osim ljubavi prema Stalloneu i/ili ovakvim filmovima), a publika ekstatično-navijački raspoložena...
The Expendables 2010 DVDSCR XviD-PrisM
Već se pojavip DVDSCR?!?! Wow - that was quick.
Ako je verovati skrinovima i uzorku: slika je odlična!
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odgledah placenike i mislim da se jos od 2012. nisam bolje zabavila gledajuci neki film. :lol:
nedostajali su mi jos dzeki cen i stiven sigal, a mogli su i andji da daju neku ulogu.
Anđelija je preskupa. Još nije toliko propala pa da bude pogodna za Plaćenike. Možda za sledeći deo obezbede Toma Kruza... Mislim da mu je cena baš pala u poslednje vreme.
Nego, Plaćenici najbolje funkcionišu kao film nostalgije zato što u sećanje lepo prizivaju (pre svega zbog glumaca, ali i zbog pristupa akciji) akcijaše iz naše mladosti. (Ovo pod uslovom da ste 1965-1980 godište).
jasno ko fali
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The Expendables R5 XViD-xR5
Size: 700.95 MB
...i jos jedno R5 izdanje...
The Expendables 2010 R5 XviD AC3-ViSiON
Size: 1.45 GB
...i još jedan...
The Expendables R5 AC3 XViD – IMAGiNE
Size: 1.38 GB
...pojašnjenje:
"IMAGiNE bringing you another release..... The Expendables
Here we are with a nice R5 this time. Right first off we we're sent these
files this morning and have been working on a few other projects so sorry
for the delay on getting this out.
Work done on this one was we made some subs and hardcoded them for all non english parts....
Then we made it brighter,lowered the chroma,slight change in rgb colours,white balance,sharpen,crop and resize.
Audio is from the DVDSCR that was released by iND and about 30 seconds from the R5 beginning to make it full audio
as the iND release was missing audio for that part.
Enjoy folks"
i još jedan R5...
The Expendables R5 Studio LINE(READ INFO) XviD AC3-FLAWL3SS
Group notes
Here we go with our version of The Expendables.I know their are plenty of R5s and the
screeners.But i have to admit the R5 looks better then the screener.So we opted to do
the R5 and used IMAGINES audio thanks guys.We did our normal stuff to it.We brighten
the movie along with saturation,contrast,denoiser and finally a sharpen filter
to it.And for added entertainment we made audio 6 channels and hard coded the subs.
Many thanks to EleKtriKa and IMAGINE.Hope you all enjoy from team FLAWL3SS
Quote from: ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas on 26-08-2010, 09:01:11
...jesam uživao gledajući THE EXPENDABLES, ali mi se dpao manje no što sam se nadao...
Same here. Nije los film ali ja sam se nadao da ce Expendables biti bar na nivou filma Rambo iz 2008. koji mi se jako dopao (jednostavan zaplet, bez puno filozofiranja i emocionalnosti, da bude krvi do kolena, i da bude veliki body count...) Iako su tu skoro svi sastojci, hemije nema. Narocito me je razocarao Miki Rurk!
...i opet...
The Expendables 2010 R5 XviD-Noir
Size: 701.55 MB
...i jos dva...
The Expendables 2010 PROPER R5 XViD-iLG
The Expendables 2010 R5 XviD-PrisM
Right plenty of relases out of this so....anyway for a start spent a couple hours making the subs, for the subtitles
i used the DVDSCR as a template to get ORIGINAL proper subtitles....so i went through the r5 get the times to the exact MS
and same with DVDSCR and making a .srt....all together theirs 52 lines of subtitles....so this you getting the proper
translation of them :), the previous releases only have 39-40lines of subtitles, missing the part at the begining...
down the the release...it's pretty nice video, colors were pretty nice, quality better than the dvdscr by a bit..
so made a avs script, to fix the brightness and contrast...increased brightness a fair spark and touched the contrast
used a sharpness script aswell but didn't sharpen to much because in fast action scenes it can cause blockyness so i
steered away from too much :D, now the colors seemed pretty ok, bit too much yellow, and a touch to much blue...so
lowered the yellow and the red slightly, and lowered the chroma. Also used a slight denoise filter so theirs not much
noise on the video :), Audio, we used the audio from the dvdscr which is pretty sweet....for 99% of the movie, but
for the start we used the russian audio...theirs no talking so it's no problem...overall it's a nice release with
full subtitles....Enjoy awesome movie //prism
Pojavio se i neki 720p upscale koji odlicno izgleda.
The.Expendables.2010.720p.R5.XviD.AC3.ViSiON
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Stalone je, očigledno, pumpao usne.
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I ja odgledo!
Miki Rurk je izgovorio Sljivovica i ...
...najbolju pusku od svih dosada vidjenih u filmovima ima crnja!
Predvidjam joj svetlu buducnost u buducim filmovima!
Expendables je poseban film. Kada je glavni glumac ujedno i redatelj i ko-scenarist, onda ti je odmah jasno da se ovome ostvarenju pristupilo, između ostalog, i sa značajnom dozom nostalgije, nostalgije nad jednim pomalo iscrpljenim filmskim žanrom, te nostalgije na najblistavije momente vlastite karijere izgrađene upravo ovakovim ulogama. Normalno (i pošteno), Sly nije uzeo ovaj projekt kao posvetu samo sebi, već je samim "staro-zvjezdanim" (he, he) castingom okupio (jednoć) najbolje igrače. Podjela uloga nije mogla biti bolja, bez obzira što večina odabranih, starih akcijskih zvijezda i dan danas nije naučila pošteno glumiti... ali njihovi mrki pogledi i tjelesna spremnost, kao u najboljim danima, dovoljno govori sama za sebe.
Scenarij ima itekako duha; glumci su sjajni u svojevrsnom "repriziranju" svojih nekoć največih uloga; Lundgren je efektan kao izopćenik, Eric Roberts kao zlikovac, Jet Li "samoparodiran" sa komplexom inferiornosti zbog vlastite "veličine", a Miki Rurke, kao i obično, briljira kao čovjek koji je digao ruke od svega, lamentirajući nad izgubljenom dušom (emotivna scena sa "schljivovichom" je svojevrsni hajlajt filma). Motivacija, a posebno Staloneova lika, je korektno razrađena; isprva drven, motiviran prvenstveno novcem, on biva zapanjen (općinjen) ustrajnošću, odlučnošću i idealima otočke ljepotice, te odlučuje da uradi pravu stvar, ovoga puta ne zbog novca, tako da je sve od tog trenutka i svojevrsna katarza, i to ne samoga sebe, nego i svojih kompanjona.
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Ocena: 7/10
Pogledao sam THE EXPENDABLES i jedina stvar koja me je obradovala u celom filmu jeste to što sam na kraju video ime Johna Reynoldsa (da bar neko koga znam ima koristi od ovog smeća) i provalio da se Slyov dubler preziva isto kao moj dragi prijatelj.
Sve ostalo što nam je prikazano je zaista jezivo na svim zamislivim nivoima, da citiram Bobana. Nisam očekivao da će EXPENDABLES biti neki naročito ozbiljan film, nisam očekivao ni da će biti na nivou starih akcijaša (koji su, iako je mene lako diskreditovati kao fana Dolpha Lundgrena, ipak bili, fuck it, dobri filmovi uglavnom) i bio sam pripremljen za neku osrednjost.
Međutim, ono što je rezultat EXPENDABLESa je čemer i jad, u glumačkom, scenarističkom, rediteljskom, i što je najpotresnije - elementarnom tehničkom smislu.
Kad je o glumcima reč, prvo treba reći da im je dat nezahvalan zadatak da iako im je akcija primaran vid izražavanja moraju da glume u ogromnoj količini jezivo napisanih dramskih scena. Tu se svako snalazi kako zna - Statham je personality actor, ima šarma, pa se to nekako proguta; Sly je u stanju raspadanja, izgleda kao posrnuli izduvani roid rager; Jet Li je dosta indisponiran, umoran, neubedljiv čak i onda kada radi poteze koje će verovatno moći da izvede i sa osamdeset godina; o podeli mladih roid ragera i potpuno raspadnutom Mickey Rourkeu čiji je simpatični comeback počeo da se pretvara u jednu perverziju ozbiljnih razmera najradije ne bih ni govorio - kao njegov fan iz vremena dok je još bio upotrebljiv, ne mogu da kažem da mi nije drago što Holivud ispravlja nepravdu koju mu je naneo, međutim, mislim da se sad već malo preteralo sa ispravljanjem te nepravde.
Jedini glumac koji je u ovom filmu uspeo da napravi kakvu-takvu kreaciju je Dolph. Njegov lik je prvo jedini među njima koji se ponaša iole uverljivo - on je umoran od ubijanja, navučen je na džank i želi da se iživljava nad protivnicima jer mu je sve dosadilo. To je jedna logična, prirodna emocija, jedini vid promišljanja pozicije stare akcione zvezde u EXPENDABLESu koji je upravo trebalo da bude baziran na tome.
Lundgren i inače u poslednje vreme bolje može da prođe kao izopačeni negativac nego kao akcioni heroj i to mu daje taj spook faktor i u US3: REGENERATION i u EXPENDABLESu, a tragovi toga sežu do Ivana Draga, naravno.
Međutim, Stallone i ostatak ekipe u suštini imaju isti attitude kao Stalloneovi likovi iz osamdesetih, koji doduše jesu patili od istog problema kao pesme Bojana Marovića - junak je bio premlad da ga život toliko samelje. Kako god bilo, Sly, Statham, Rourke, Lundgren i Li su u istom stadijumu samlevenosti iako, nisu baš istih godina. Dakle, što se karaktera tiče, izuzev Lundgrenovog Gunnera, svi ostali su potpuna uravnilovka, bez ikakvih ličnih obeležja.
To bukvalno repliciranje rešenja iz osamdesetih bi moglo proći da nema dve velike razlike u odnosu na tadašnje filmove. Prva razlika je u tome što Slya u to vreme nije bilo degutantno gledati a danas zaista jeste (mada ima i jedan tužniji prizor - Arnie, to je prava tuga) a druga je u tome što su te filmove režirali opasni reditelji, tipovi poput George Pan Cosmatosa, Mark L. Lestera pa čak i Peter MacDonalda.
U ovom filmu međutim imamo glumce koji izazivaju mešavinu gađenja i sažaljenja, a bez ikakvih naznaka da je to namera autora kao recimo u WRESTLERu, i rediteljski koncept koji je mešavina najgeneričnijih savremenih pristupa inscenaciji akcije, dakle brze i efektne tuče po uzoru na rad Jeffa Imade u BOURNE SUPREMACY, pokušaj stvaranja realizma kroz pseudodokumentarne pokrete kamere kao kod Greengrassa inače, sa nekim kao old school set-pieceovima koji su jednolični.
Krvi ima, to je činjenica, ali se na kraju to sve pretvara u jednu CGI grotesku sa kidanjem tela koje ne stvara osećaj bola i frakturama kao stalnim asortimanom borbe čime se gubi moć takvih rešenja da posluže kao akcenat. Setimo se scene kada u filmu RAMBO 3, naslovni junak pogodi sovjetskog vojnika nožem u vrat. To mu je jedini takav kill i zato je tako efektan jer je postavljen kao akcenat. Ovde svaki kill pokušava da bude akcenat, maltene svaka tuča podrazumeva frakturu, amputaciju ili oba, i to na kraju gubi svoj efekat. Licemerno bi bilo da kažem da se žalim što je tako jer iako je akcija mahom slabo realizovana, ona je jedino što me je držalo relativno budnim tokom filma, ali care for what you wish - ako sam ikada želeo da svaki kill bude tako efektan, sada se ispostavlja da to ipak ne ide.
Glavni negativci su Eric Roberts i David Zayas. Zayas je direktno ridikulozan kao latinoamerički diktator. Takve diktatore je eliminisao još Chuck Bronson početkom osamdesetih. Eric Roberts s druge strane, a na osnovu serije ENTOURAGE znamo da je u izvrsnoj formi, ne dobija priliku da se fizički razračunava, iako je on imao svoje oktagonske nastupe u serijalu BEST OF THE BEST. dakle, izuzev Gary Danielsa i Steve Austina koji neupečatljivo stradaju, negativci u ovom filmu su ili upadljivo nemoćni kao Zayas ili neiskorišćeni kao vitki i snažni ER.
U tom smislu EXPENDABLES ni ne pokazuje borbu nego prilično nezanimljivi demolition derby u kome grupa slabo simpatičnih do antipatičnih likova maltretira desetine nekih slabića čiji je jedini claim to evil baziran na dve i po scene u kojima šikaniraju istih desetak statista u ritama.
Nažalost, kada se sve uzme u obzir, teško je biti na bilo koji način zadovoljan filmom u kome je jedini kvalitet mahom nameravana a u manjoj meri ostvarena svirepost akcionih scena pošto ga to svodi na tvrdnje onih koji su se bavili klevetanjm akcijaša osamdesetih i daje im za pravo.
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U nastavku Expendablesa obavezno da se pojave Džeki Čen, Ričard Norton i Čak Noris!
e moj Harvestere, znaš li zašto Čak Noris nikad neće glumiti u Expendables?
Zato što nije expendable!
U odnosu na kripla, ja sam "ležernije", "opuštenije" pristupio filmu; percipirajući ga kao mock-u-film, s jedne strane kao sentimentalni omaž cijelom jednom filmskom žanru, jednoj karijeri i desetljeću u kojemu je ono bilo najplodnije i najizraženije. S druge strane, kao redateljeva sposobnost da na sve to gleda kroz prizmu parodije i sposobnosti da se onako pošteno našali na svoj, i tuđi račun. Smatram da mi za pravo tako promatrati film daje upravo cameo nastup Ahrrrnolda Švarcenegera i njegov "verbalni" obračun sa Stalloneom, dvije veličine koje su jednom bili "na istoj strani". Od Arnoldovog "božanskog" ulaska kroz vrata crkve, do međusobnog (zdravog) prepucavanja sa Slyem upadicama tipa "dajte njemu zadatak, on se voli igrati u đungli" do "ovome je ambicija postati predsjednik"... a sve to uz neskriveni obostrani respekt.
Tko zna, možda je baš taj trenutak suština filma.
Ma Stalone se ovde breee, maximalno opustio...
Omaz samom sebi govori sve...Hajde da snimimo sve sto sam nekad radio...
...Zagleda se u obicnu curu i o'ma ce je zeni i bije se zbog nje...Roki 1....
...Auto koji vozi maaaltene ko onaj u Kobri...
..itd....
Jedino mi neocekivana uloga Lundgrenova....taman da reprizira U.Soldiera....
kad ono, ziv, zdrav i dobar.. na kraju.. hehehe...
I film je tacno ono zasto se i snimaju filmovi kao ovaj...Zabava za jedno vece...
... ili plus nastavak pa budu dve veceri !
..ali zato ona puskica....jaoj...kako je dobra!
Rekao bih da je kikec shvatio stvari kako i treba, dok CA, po običaju, komplikuje. Gledao sam Plaćenike u prepunoj sali u zaista uživao. Plaćenici nisu film pogodan za ozbiljniju analizu zato što bi podrobnija analiza bila kao prelazak preko minskog polja, ali zato jeste film-događaj. Uz to - i film nostalgije. Napisao sam to negde, ne sećam se gde - ovo je film za one rođene u periodu 1965-1980. Za one koji su odrasli na akcijašima Slaja i Švarcija, eventulano Vilisa. One kojima Lundgren nije nepoznato lice, koji su navikli da vide Robertsa kao negativca... Čak i tada je potrebna ozbiljna suspenzija neverice ali u punoj sali film funkcioniše. Bar je meni funkcionisao. Ne kažem da je to veliki i važan film, ali jeste relativno uspela nostalgična fusnota, epitaf za talas akcionih filmova 80-tih i početka 90-tih. Ne mogu se Plaćenici meriti sa Bornom. Akcija je danas znatno uznapredovala u dramaturškom, produkcionom i glumačkom pogledu. Opet, za mene akcija "starog kova" još uvek ima svojih draži. Volim stare filmove bez obzira na njihovu naivnost, a Plaćenici uspevaju da zarobe nešto od one stare magije. Jeste tužno gledati Slaja u današnjem stanju, ali čovek ima 64 godine - nije njemu lako.
Cripplov problem je u tome što su njemu ti filmovi stvarno omiljeni, stvarno dobri i stvarno je uz njih odrastao. Pa je shodno tome i očekivano da Cripple očekuje da se taj neki nivo koji je ranije postojao barem elementarno ispoštuje.
Osamdesete su prošle i neće se vratiti. Ništa više nije kao pre, pa u tom smislu Plaćenici predstavljaju određeni kompromis, dosta se tu balansiralo - da bude i vuk sit i ovčice na broju. Previše je likova, film je pretpan - a slab scenario popušta i propušta pod bačastom. Opet, meni je sve to držalo vodu. Prijalo mi je i više nego što je trebalo, više nego što sam kavalitet filma zavređuje. Takođe - bio sam potpuno svestan i medijske manipulacije sa Švarcijem i Vilisom, ali i tu sam legao na rudu. Ipak su po prvi put podelili veliki ekran, meni to nije mala stvar - pa čak i da su samo sedeli i gledali u kameru. Priznajte, maštali ste si o tome - posebno kad su Švarci i Slaj u pitanju.
Da se ne lažemo, ovaj film je i snimljen da bi zaradio. Ali isto važi i za sve drage nam akcijaše 80tih. Uz to, vratio je dostojanstvo Lundgrenu, a to za mene nije baš mala stvar.
Trćea dobra stvar vezana za ovaj film jeste da ga narod dosta rado gleda u Srbiji. Već je na 16 330 gledalaca. Biće gledaniji od INCEPTIONa. :)
...i niko ne voli puskicu?
Ja nikada nisam bio fan tih poluatomatskih oružja velikog kalibra, ali u svakom slučaju mi je draži onaj Barret s kojim se puca u MIAMI VICE, SMOKIN ACES i HURT LOCKERu. Stallone ima opsesiju tim velikim kalibrima i kidanjima mesa na njima insistira i u RAMBU.
Ma i meni je najdraze cedo sto Jesse Ventura nosi u Predatoru, ali to je vec fantastika.Ali ovo je ok za 21 vek gde su blad'n'gore sve neminovniji na svim poljima...
Quote from: crippled_avenger on 02-09-2010, 20:11:41
Trćea dobra stvar vezana za ovaj film jeste da ga narod dosta rado gleda u Srbiji. Već je na 16 330 gledalaca. Biće gledaniji od INCEPTIONa. :)
Znači, imamo hit. Vole, bre, naši ljudi kad neko uzme automatsku pušku i pokoka 100 duša u jednom cugu.
Ih kad se setim Svarcija u Komandosu....
coek sa mpobije ostrvo ljudi...Prajsles!
Ajl bi bek, Benet!
Flaj or daj!
Kolko je to bilo guilty pleasure tad!
Evo i onog Rurkovog monologa o Bosni, Srbima i šljivovici. Biće zanimljivo ako budu radili prikvel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OXwVxIN_kA
A Sergej Trifunović da ih vija po Bosni da nad njima snima snuff...
The Expendables je kao kada bi Cartoon Network na dva sata otišao na R rejting. Baš me je razgalio svojim očiglednim parodiranjem žanra i njegovih arhetipova.
Brian Tyler – The Expendables OST-2010-CRUELTY
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Sad posle svih iznetih misljenja, bez straha kazem:uzivala sam u filmu! Smejala se i zabavljala. Vecina mojih omiljenih glumaca na jednom mestu,dijalozi kao u stripu...ludak general...ma sve mi se dopalo. xrofl
Мени је невјероватно да се филм овако брзо појавио у Русији у специјалном издању (Blu-ray + DVD + неки бонуси?) па отуд ова поплава дивекса и богами и матрошке.
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класична акција, онако за једнократну употребу...баш се види да је Слај одртавео, посебно кад трчи и сл.
The Expendables
r: Sylvester Stallone
Danas, mnogi su skloni idealizovanju i glorifikaciji Staloneovog doprinosa filmu, delimično opravdanim njegovim otelotvorenjem poznatih filmskih likova, ali 80-ih je Stalone bio sinonim za drugorazredni akcioni (i dr.) film. Za kombinaciju vrhunski zabavne akcije sa ozbiljnijim filmskim kvalitetima, imali smo Švarcenegera.
Ne bih ovde i sada o celokupnoj Staloneovoj filmografiji, već o The Expendables. Plaćenici su pravi bioskopski film - efektana nepretenciozna razbibriga. Ideja okupljanja poznatih imena akcionog (u širem smislu) segmenta filmske istorije je dobra i uspešno realizovana. Podela uloga je zadovoljavajuća; možda u nekom nastavku bude drugačija i obuhvati i neke druge omiljene face, ali ova ekipa OK funkcioniše (Sylvester Stallone, Jason Statham, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren, Eric Roberts, Mickey Rourke...).
Obzirom da cilj nije previsoko postavljen, skoro je dostignut. Priču o grupi plaćenika poslatih u ostrvsku državicu da ubiju diktatora, malčice je pokvario sam reditelj Sylvester Stallone, za koga odavno znamo da je prosečan režiser (Rocky II, III, Staying Alive). U želji da bude moderan, brzom režijom i montažom akcionih scena, iste je napravio pomalo konfuznim i nepreglednim, samim tim, nedovoljno upečatljivim. Da se držao klasičnijeg pristupa, kao u Rambo (4 iz 2008.), rezultat bi bio nešto bolji. Takođe, rutinski scenario je odmogao mogućnosti da ovo bude bitnije žanrovsko ostvarenje.
I ovako, The Expendables je kao novokomponovana pop pesma u fazonu 80-ih - zanimljivošću odskače od savremene pop/filmske/ produkcije.
5+/10
The Expendables 2010 DVDRip XviD-RUBY
The Expendables 2 Official Trailer #1 - Sylvester Stallone Movie (2012) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db2sD4P_Ieg#ws)
Expendables 2 - Official Trailer (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdq4mldR88#ws)
Very nice.
Prvi deo je teško smeće, možda su se popravili u drugom...ipak je tu Nole. xuss
Ma, biće i drugi deo smeće... Ali, važno je da je zabavno.
Ako je smeće meni ne može biti zabavno ( osim u smislu - smejanje koliko je glupo ). Pri tom ne hejtujem akcione filmove, već upravo govorim u njihovoj kategoriji.
Slaj svaki put sve mladji :) koju li kremu za lice koristi :evil: :evil:
Quote from: Truman on 03-05-2012, 23:40:20
Ako je smeće meni ne može biti zabavno ( osim u smislu - smejanje koliko je glupo ). Pri tom ne hejtujem akcione filmove, već upravo govorim u njihovoj kategoriji.
Ako gledas u drustvu uvek je zabavno smece , a ako gledas sam, onda je to druga prica .
Dobro, možda je smeće prejaka reč... FIlm definitivno ima neku upotrebnu vrednost. Meni je prijao. Videti sve te face na okupu je samo po sebi dojajno. Ali se ne zanosim u smislu da smatram da je to neki posebno kvalitetan film. Plaćenici su holivudski akvivalent koncerta u Areni Volim 90-te...
Quote from: Kunac on 04-05-2012, 00:22:46
Plaćenici su holivudski akvivalent koncerta u Areni Volim 90-te...
Pa,dobro,jeste. :)
Na osnovu ovog trejlera nastavak deluje kao bolji film od prethodnika mu, a kad to kažem mislim pre svega na (nadajmo se) bolje akcione scene...
Quote from: Agota on 04-05-2012, 00:27:49
Quote from: Kunac on 04-05-2012, 00:22:46
Plaćenici su holivudski akvivalent koncerta u Areni Volim 90-te...
Pa,dobro,jeste. :)
da ne bude zabune...
ekvivalent.... :-D
Quote from: Milosh on 04-05-2012, 00:29:04
Na osnovu ovog trejlera nastavak deluje kao bolji film od prethodnika mu, a kad to kažem mislim pre svega na (nadajmo se) bolje akcione scene...
Da... Upravo!
Quote from: Milosh on 04-05-2012, 00:29:04
Na osnovu ovog trejlera nastavak deluje kao bolji film od prethodnika mu, a kad to kažem mislim pre svega na (nadajmo se) bolje akcione scene...
THE EXPENDABLES 2 je za (skoro) klasu bolji od prvog filma. Bolja je režija - Simon West definitivno bolje režira akciju od Stalonea. A prijatno iznenađenje je da i u dramskom delu scena ima primetnog napretka.
Naravno, još uvek je to "glupi akcioni film" čiji je osnovni cilj da se što više akcionih junaka prikažu u istom filmu u raznim kombinacijama, umesto da se cilja na nešto ozbiljnije što se tiče ideje, priče i zapleta.
Ali, kao vrlo laka zabava, sa jedinstvenim retro-nostalgičarskim šarmom (ovog, sada već serijala), meni funkcioniše.
6/10
Za decu do uzrasta 12 godina.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 26-10-2012, 01:47:23
Za decu do uzrasta 12 godina.
Prvenstveno za njih.