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Started by Ghoul, 17-10-2007, 02:19:06

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Ghoul

Ok, pominjao sam već ovo na topiku o filmu INSIDE, ali danas je i ZVANIČNO potvrđeno da će da se radi, i to by tvroci IZNUTRICE, te stoga zaslužuje pokretanje svog topika.

Evo obznane:

Following the recent success of the "Halloween" remake, Dimension is moving ahead on reinventing "Hellraiser," setting Julien Maury and Alexandre Bustillo to write and direct the remake of one of horrormeister's Clive Barker's best-known creations.

Released in 1987, "Hellraiser" told the story of an unfaithful wife who attempts to assist her dead lover in his escape from hell. The movie introduced viewers to a race of demons called Cenobites, most notably one nicknamed Pinhead -- who became one of the most enduring horror characters of the decade -- who was summoned using an antique puzzle box.

Based on Barker's critically acclaimed novella "The Hellbound Heart," "Hellraiser" was written and directed by Barker and spawned a lucrative film franchise.

Dimension is aiming to make the movie pre-strike.

Senior vp production Matthew Stein will oversee the project on behalf of Dimension.

French filmmakers Maury and Bustillo come to the project off the strength of their supernatural thriller "Inside," about a pregnant woman who loses her boyfriend in a car crash and subsequently is violently haunted by a mysterious woman. The Weinstein Co./Dimension picked up the distribution rights to their film debut this year.

The filmmakers said they had the blessing of Barker to reappropriate his story and also had a playful message to any horror fans that were ready to trash the idea of a remake, "No tears, please; it's a waste of good remaking!"

Dimension's "Halloween" remake, directed by Rob Zombie, grossed more than $57 million.

Maury and Bustillo are repped by Paradigm.



dakle, kada se RANIJE pričalo o rimejkovanju helrejzera, mislio sam da je to totalni bulšit, isto kao i za helovin (i za potonji sam, kako ispade, bio u pravu).

MEĐUTIM, novi momenat, sa dovođenjem ove dvojice, daje IZVESNU nadu da ce to biti potencijalno vredan naslov.

naravno, kao dokazani fan prva 2 dela (uprkos svesti o njihovim filmofilskim problematičnostima, ipak mi se nalaze u top-25 ever), iskreno i duboko sumnjam da je moguće dostići:
-glas i pojavu daga bredlija kao pinheda;
-držanje i pogled kler higins (džulija);
-potpuno neobuzdani i maštoviti splatter (u francuskoj možda, ali čim to pređe pod okrilje usa studija, počinju problemi...)
-kreacije senobita koji bi izgledali bolje, morbidnije, žešće od originalne četvorke;
-MUZIKU kristofera janga, koja je po meni definitivno u top-5 ever u hororu;
-opštu atmosferu perverzije koja natapa sve, uključujući tu i krvavu romansu, i incestuozne implikacije, i gay implikacije, i mazohizam...

ipak, ako NEKO može da ovo uradi kako treba, ova dvojica mi deluju kao pravi ljudi za re-imagining.


šta mislite? (ne o njima, jer izgleda da INSIDE još nije dostupan divx-džijama – nego o originalnom serijalu, i rimejkovanju toga)
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Tex Murphy

Hm, pa nije otkrivanje tople vode kad se kaže da je Hellraiser suvo zlato od filma. Međutim, ja sam dosta tolerantan i prema njegovim nastavcima, koji su povremeno znali da budu solidni filmovi (npr. DEADER, sa Kari Wuhrer), mada nijedan nije do koljena atmosferi prvog dijela.

Što se rimejkovanja tiče - mislim da tu nema šta da se čeprka. Jedino što nije valjalo u Helrejzeru (prvom) jesu oni grozni home-made specijalni efekti na kraju filma (otprilike kvalitetni kao u Urlikanju 2, gdje imaju neke slične scene), a to je premalo da bi se opravdao rimejk. Bolje da se sam Klajv Barker angažovao da se uradi neka remasterovana verzija njegovog filma gdje bi ta sitnica bila ispravljena.
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Ghoul

Things have finally started to move forward with Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Maury at the helm. Barker talks a bit about how involved he is with the project, "I will watch over two Frenchmen who will remake it and only because I think they are two very splendid young men who made a fucking great movie," he continues, "I like them both. I like the movie INSIDE. It's very good, very bloody and they are very nice smart guys who have a commitment to the original movie."

What we found interesting is how Barker doesn't want his take on the story to be remade, he wants to see something fresh, "I think it's all the more reason that they remake it; that they don't take my version of the story. I had some specific suggestions, which I don't want to spoil for you or anyone else, about how things might be taken up a notch or two. And you know S&M just isn't what it used to be! So if we're to do the whips and chains and the hooks we have to do them at a whole new level because I thinks its tired material."

A whole new level, eh? With Alexandre and Julien at the helm I don't think that's going to be much of a problem...

We then joked a bit about how Pinhead just isn't scary anymore... Clive agreed wholeheartedly, "I agree. Well, it's not just Pinhead, the whole fucking movie has to be scary again. My commitment to being involved was really based on these guys who had a bloody good idea that had nothing to do with what I had in my head. So more power to them."

Doug Bradley has been openly asking to return as Pinhead in the remake, but unfortunately it's too early to say, "I wish I knew. I don't think they even know at this stage."
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Alexdelarge

Kosava je u prethodna dva dana emitovala prvi i drugi deo serijala,pa sam iskoristio priliku da ih repriziram,al' sad imam jednu malu nedoumicu i jedno pitanje:

Kako Dzulija u drugom delu povrati svoje lice?U prvom delu ona pomaze Frenku,da ubiju njenog muza/ njegovog brata,i ovaj uzima kozu/lice svog brata.U drugom delu doktor dovodi Dzuliji pacijente/pacijentkninje pa bi bilo logicno da ona ima lik jednog od njih.Ili ako je od svakog pacijenta uzimala po deo koze,onda bi licila na Leatherface,a za njega se bas i ne moze reci da ima pravilne crte lica i blage oci. :evil:
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srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

Ghoul

za razliku od frenka, koji je rupe u sebi popunjavao danima i danima, džulijino kompletiranje je obavljeno po skraćenom, ubrzanom postupku zbog koga tuđi implanti nisu imali kad da na njenoj osnovi zadrže autohtonost i individualnost pojedinih davalaca, nego su smesta 'prilagođavani' ili 'lektorisani' (da se poslužimo hrvatskim stručnim terminima) tako da automatski postanu deo domaćice.
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Truba

rimejk sigurno neću da gledam... ali nakon što odradim gandija i još neki domumentarac... dolaze na red svi helrejzeri  :!:

gledao sam samo prva dva... bumo vidjeli na što će to ličiti sada kad pogledam sve u kompletu  :)
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Ghoul

kolkogod da su uprskali onaj INSIDE, ipak sam se nadao da bi ova dvojica mogli nešto napraviti od HELREJZER rimejka.
avaj.

We have confirmed that the directors are officially OFF the project. We heard some very disconcerting news last Monday that we were able to confirm over the past week. From what we were told by various sources, the Weinstein Company is seeking a new director for their remake of Hellraiser. What's not clear yet is whether or not Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Maury - who directed the astounding French horror film INSIDE - is officially off the project.
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:
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Macedonian to the max

Quote from: "Ghoul"kolkogod da su uprskali onaj INSIDE, ipak sam se nadao da bi ova dvojica mogli nešto napraviti od HELREJZER rimejka.
avaj.

We have confirmed that the directors are officially OFF the project. We heard some very disconcerting news last Monday that we were able to confirm over the past week. From what we were told by various sources, the Weinstein Company is seeking a new director for their remake of Hellraiser. What's not clear yet is whether or not Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Maury - who directed the astounding French horror film INSIDE - is officially off the project.
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:

There there... there there.Nevertheless we will always have Paris

CorwinM

Misliš na One night in Paris?
There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people.

Kunac

Dobre i loše vesti, kako se uzme i kako za koga...

QuoteAlright kiddies, we've got even more details regarding the low budget return of Pinhead in Hellraiser: Revelations, hopefully the first good Hellraiser  flick since the fourth. Being directed by Victor Garcia from a screenplay by special effects artists Gary Tunnicliffe, the plot will follow two friends who unleash Pinhead (who becomes their master of pain). Apparently, one of the friends has a change of heart. He backs out on his oath hoping to swap himself out with one of his friend's family members. We also learned there will be a male and female cenobite escorting Pinhead around town, with a new "Pseudo-Pinhead" being introduced. Shooting begins this September in Los Angeles! WOO!

QuoteEarlier this morning we gave you a quick plot rundown for Dimension Films' low budget Hellraiser: Revelations. Being directed by Victor Garcia from a screenplay by special effects artists Gary Tunnicliffe, the plot will follow two friends who unleash Pinhead (who becomes their master of pain). Apparently, one of the friends has a change of heart. He backs out on his oath hoping to swap himself out with one of his friend's family members. We learned exclusively that one of the kid's mother will be played by none other than Peta Wilson, best known as the sensual "Nikita" in the 96 episodes of "La Femme Nikita". More casting as it comes in.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Le Samourai

Pa jel neko gledao neshto od tog nesrecnika? Filmografija mu deluje krajnje bedno.

Sa jedne strane mi je drago shto ce Dag Bredli josh jednom imati hranu na stolu, a sa druge su mi josh uvek svezhi poslednji nastavci ove sorte.  :x

Milosh

Heh, sad sam proverio da vidim ko je taj Garcia kad ono već je snimio nastavak rimejka Ogledala, pre toga nastavak rimejka Kuće na ukletom brdu, a ima i kratki film El ciclo, to imam negde na hardu, mogao bih da bacim pogled na šta liči...
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

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Le Samourai

Pa da, i ja to videh i uopshte ne bih impresioniran.

Verujem da tu taj El ciclo ima najbolje shanse da bude za nechega, verovatno je morao da ima neshto makar polu-valjano u svom rezimeu shto bi ga preporuchilo za ove relativno visokoprofilne stv-sikvel rezhije, od kojih pak ochekujem da su najverovatnije potpuni drek.

RedSonja

Pretpostavljam da je sramota da priznam da sam Helrajzer iz '87 odgledala do scene u kojoj žena (koja se useljava u kuću s onim čovom, mužem/dečkom/prijateljem s beneficijama odma na pocetku, kako film startuje) se skida u brus i licka šaku nekom drugom tipu, ne ovom koji planira da joj kupi kuću.
Stvar je u tome što je meni ona ženska strahovito antipatična i naslutila sam neku karačinu a nisam bas bila u takom raspoloženju, pa sam film pauzirala s namerom da ga kasnije dogledam. Ali nisam i eto sramote.

A ovako volim Barkera kako je ispričao Kendimen, a kao reditelja ga nešto i ne znam.

Tex Murphy

Hehe, da, ni meni ona nije bila najsimpatičnija, ali taj film je izvanredan.

Što se rimejka tiče, to svakako nema šanse išta da valja, ali dobro je što je otpao Laugier.
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Mark

Da li se to samo meni cini ili horror remake frenzy polako zamire?!
Dos'o Sveti Petar i kaze meni Djordje di je ovde put za Becej, ja mu kazem mani me se, on kaze: Pricaj ne's otici u raj!
E NES NI TI U BECEJ!

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Mark

S obzirom da su rimejk F13 i rimejk NOES vise-manje razocarali, ne bih ja ocekivao da se zuri sa rimejkom Hellraisera ... PS Au jbt pa prvi post na ovom topiku je iz 2007.  :x
Dos'o Sveti Petar i kaze meni Djordje di je ovde put za Becej, ja mu kazem mani me se, on kaze: Pricaj ne's otici u raj!
E NES NI TI U BECEJ!

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Tex Murphy

Quote from: Mark on 24-08-2010, 11:23:44
Da li se to samo meni cini ili horror remake frenzy polako zamire?!

Zato što su sve filmove izrimejkovali. Al saće drugi krug - rimejk rimejka Texas Chainsaw Massacre itd. Nastavak rimejka rimejka Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Rimejk nastavka rimejka rimejka...
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Kunac

Quote from: Le Samourai on 24-08-2010, 01:18:20
Pa jel neko gledao neshto od tog nesrecnika? Filmografija mu deluje krajnje bedno.

Sa jedne strane mi je drago shto ce Dag Bredli josh jednom imati hranu na stolu, a sa druge su mi josh uvek svezhi poslednji nastavci ove sorte.  :x
Doug Bradley neće igrati u novim Gospodarima Pakla. Traje potraga za novim Pinhedom.

Inače, na kraju ispada da ovaj Hellraiser: Revelations neće biti rimejk Barkerovog filma/nova ekranizacija Barkerove novelete, već niskobudžetni nastavak u stilu poslenjih Hellraiser naslova: Hellraiser: Hellworld, Hellraiser: Deader itd... Znači, potpuno nova priča sa novim junacima... Praktično, ovo će onda biti Hellraiser IX...

Inače, taj Víctor García je režiser treće lige čiji holivudski rezime obuhvata pravo-na-DVD naslove. Return to House on Haunted Hill je interaktivni film, verzija koju sam pogledao je baš pobezveze. Baciću pogled na Ogledala 2, ali ne verujem da će tu biti nekog kvaliteta. Pogledao sam trejler --- deluje jeftino i rutinski, mada u smislu priče (koliko se to da proceniti po trejleru) mnogo bliže korejskom izvorniku Into the Mirror od Ajinog filma.

Inače, Harv je u prvu. Sve živo su izrimejkovali, zato je došlo do posustajanja. Ali, smisliće producenti već nešto, ne brinite...
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Kunac

Early Synopsis and Character Breakdown: Hellraiser: RevelationsThe next film in the Hellraiser franchise is moving along at a breakneck pace. So far we know that "La Femme Nikita"'s Peta Wilson has already signed on to the cast and that Doug Bradley will not be back as Pinhead. So what are they planning to do without Doug in this new Victor Garcia helmed film written by Gary Tunnicliffe? The latest character breakdown reveals the answer to that and more!

Character Breakdowns:


[DR. ROSS CRAVEN] Early 40s, handsome, a family man. His son disappeared two years ago, and it has been a hard road back to family stability. He is a good man that has fought hard to keep his family together.

[EMMA] 18, daughter of Ross and Sarah. She is lovely and inquisitive and on the verge of her own womanhood.

[STEVEN] 20, son of Ross and Sarah. He is a seeker, a true misanthrope. After he graduated high school, he went on a backpacking trip with his friend Nico through Mexico, where he was presented with a choice to "experience a reality beyond current existence" and the puzzle box is presented and Pinhead becomes his master.

[NICO] 20, Steven's best friend and traveling partner. Once Nico realizes that the commitment to Pinhead is FOREVER, he attempts a daring switch plan to release himself from the puzzle box.

[ENGINEER] Male with dark olive skin, cloudy eyes. He is creepy looking, a man that has lived on the streets for years. The Engineer is a man of mysterious origins, and it is this man that draws the curious souls into Pinhead's reality.

[MALE CENOBITE] Male 20-30s, British accent, Caucasian, very pale, tall and thin, the actor should be comfortable in full body makeup along with special effects contact lenses, face and head special effect makeup. Stunt background / experience a plus.

[PSEUDO-PIN HEAD] Tall and very thin, deathly pale, in his early 20s. Should be comfortable in full body makeup (head covering, etc.), and tight fitted black leather clothing. This pseudo pinhead is such a devoted servant of Pinhead, he mimics his appearance as closely as possible and revels in the pain that leads to his pleasure. Stunt background / experience a plus.

[FEMALE CENOBITE] Tall and thin, this actor should have training in contemporary dance / ballet / mime as well as be able to work within an environment of sensory deprivation (vision will be impaired within this character's mask). The actor cannot be claustrophobic in any way as this character wears full body makeup, wears a mask that covers her entire head and face throughout the film. This character can only communicate though body language and movement. She is a haunting presence in the film and conveys all emotion through her body movement. This female cenobite is also a devoted slave to Pinhead.

So Pseudo Pinhead, eh? Color us speechless. We also got our hands on a really early plot crunch. Dig on that below and look for more on Hellraiser: Revelations soon.

Early Plotline:

PINHEAD is back and in his chamber of soulless delights. He thought he had two willing participants in STEVEN and NICO. But Nico wants out and decides that a member of Steven's family will serve as proper barter. Terror ensues.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Kunac

"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Alec


Kunac

Zaista... Koja beda. Dimension je bestidan kada ovo valja.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Kunac

Barker uzvraća udarac. Oglasio se putem Twittera:

Hello,my friends. I want to put on record that the flic out there using the word Hellraiser IS NO FUCKIN' CHILD OF MINE! I have NOTHING to do with the fuckin' thing. If they claim its from the mind of Clive Barker,it's a lie. It's not even from my butt-hole.

:evil:
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Kunac

Počeo sam da gledam HELLRAISER: REVELATIONS... Naravno da nisam zavšio, ali i ovo što sam video je sasvim dovoljno. FIlm je drek. Drek. Drek. Shit. Govno. Merd. Sranje... Shvatate već. :) prvo, film traje: 75 minuta, od čega pet otpada na odjavnu špicu i pet na bedan uvod sniman u formi lažnog dokumantarca. Znači, imamo tek nešto malo više od sat vremena samog filma. Ruku na srce, mogli su i to da prepolove. Po setapu film podseća na prve Gospodare Pakla - pa se na neki način može reći da je u pitanju kvazi rimejk, mada bedan. Hvala bogu da je Pita Vilson odustala od pojavljivanja u ovoj abominaciji. Jeste joj karijera u lošem stanju, ali ne mora bar glavu da uranja u kloaku. Jedina priatojna stvar u vezi sa ovim isprdkom jesu specijalni efekti. Ima nekoliko dobrih. Ali to je praktično sve vredno pomena. Ostalo je.. bljak. Pola tuceta ljudi se svađa i umire u nekoj kući + sklepani flešbekovi da bi se navukla minutaža.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Truba

i naravno
kompletisti će to gledati pored tvog upozorenja  8-) :lol: :x
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Kunac

Naravno da hoće. I uživaće u pljuvanju ove abominacije. :))))))  :evil:
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

Ghoul

Quote from: Kunac on 21-10-2011, 12:32:24
Naravno da hoće. I uživaće u pljuvanju ove abominacije. :))))))  :evil:

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Alexdelarge

kakva li će tek abominacija da bude novi stvor?
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

Truba

Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...