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Opšte je poznato da čarape upijaju znoj, te su onda sva tri učesnika (patika, čarapa i noga) smrdljiva.

Quote from: "DušMan"Opšte je poznato da čarape upijaju znoj, te su onda sva tri učesnika (patika, čarapa i noga) smrdljiva.

plissken to ne zna jer on cipele ne izuva čak ni kad se tušira (proverio sam)!

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A šta ako mi se oznoje noge? Kako onda dati nekom detetu da se igra sa smrdljivom igračkom?

Nije valjda da bi dao TAKO COOL igračku nekom detetu da se igra???    

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Tuširali ste se zajedno?

A "Transformers" sequel is being rushed forward with both original scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, and writer Ehren Kruger ("The Ring," "The Brothers Grimm") in negotiations to team to pen the screenplay for a whopping $5-7 million says The Hollywood Reporter.

Director Michael Bay, star Shia LaBeouf, exec producer Steven Spielberg and producers Tom DeSanto, Lorenzo di Bonaventura and Don Murphy are all back in their respective roles for the Dreamworks/Paramount production.

The inclusion of Kruger along with the substantial payday comes with an obvious caveat - to belt out a script quickly. With the looming threat of a strike mid-2008, many thought the inevitable sequel would wait until after it was over to go into production.

This move, along with a lot of reshuffling behind-the-scenes at the studio, have made this project an obvious priority. Kurtzman and Orci are busy working on the "Star Trek" screenplay for J.J. Abrams, thus it's no surprise that Kurtzman & Orci's fellow "Nightlife" scribe Kruger was brought in to help.

Earlier today The IESB talked with producer Lorenzo diBonaventura about the upcoming "G.I. Joe" film adaptation and how it's progressing.

First off he shoots down the Viggo Mortensen casting rumour - "No, I think Viggo is too old to play it in our concept." The casting of Destro, Zartan and Hawk will be announced in the next two weeks. Also if you're a Joe vs. Cobra fan, then he says that "you will be feel incredibly happy about the movie."

They haven't discussed whether to drop the 'Real American Hero' slogan from the film title, but he does confirm that rumors of the headquarters being based in Brussels or Europe is false and that the film is aiming for a PG-13 rating.

They are seeking the help of the US military like they did with "Transformers" however in terms of techonology. Shooting begins in about five weeks with a month long shoot in Prague before traveling to numerous international and US locations.

Meanwhile in regards to "Transformers 2", he says shooting is scheduled to begin June 2nd 2008. At present they only have a limited outline and "know exactly where we want go with the movie" but can't move on anything until the writer's strike is over.

Michael Bay is already hard at work though - "Michael is completely on top of every detail. He's designed a lot of great stuff already. He's got a lot of great sequences imagined but you know, he needs some writers to work with before he's ready to go, so I would say June 2nd is an unofficial start, it's the target date we'd like to go for but, you know, we've got to get some writers to help us."

Danas ću se, nadam se, konačno naterati da odem da mi urade lobotomiju tj. otići ću da pogledam nastavak Transformersa. Za ovo nesumnjivo bolno iskustvo sam se pripremao uz sjajnu Vernovu kritiku, ali poneću za svaki slučaj i lekove protiv glavobolje i mučnine:

NAPOMENA: kritiku postujem iz dva dela, pošto je probijen maksimum od 20000 karaktera po postu

PART I

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

Okay, first off, this is not a fair review. I didn't go into this thing in good faith. I never thought there was a possibility I would genuinely like this movie. So don't think I'm trying to be objective here. But I've been getting emails and comments for months asking me to review this sequel to a movie I hated, and there's a hell of a conversation going on in the comments for my review of the first one. And to be honest I was strangely excited to see it. It just sounded so insane, and as a fan and scholar of the summer blockbuster movie maybe it was important that I see it, just like I saw MY GIANT for the sake of Seagalogy. Whatever my excuse is, the same guy who got me into the first one for free hooked me up for this one too. So your wish is my command.

Obviously you already know what this is. There's no reason to try to explain the plot, except as a personal challenge. I accept. Here is my serious attempt to remember what in holy hell was going on in the movie I just saw.

Okay. In the caveman days there were already Transformer robots on earth, fighting with robot spears. Meanwhile, a few years after part 1, a giant wheel attacks Shanghai. Also I believe a car or SUV was helping the giant wheel by driving around real fast. The "Autobot" good guy cars now work with the US military (same soldiers from part 1) so they are there to chase around the wheel and enemy car and savagely murder both of them on the spot.

Sam (Shia Lebouf, I, ROBOT) is about to leave for Princeton. His dogs like to buttfuck each other and his parents bicker all the time - you know, the kind where you can tell it must be funny by the way they say it. Sam takes out the shirt he was wearing in part 1 but he never washed it so he didn't notice the large chunk of alien technology still attached, which comes out and turns his kitchen appliances into robotic gremlins, so his Camaro/robot guardian Bumblebee appears and heroically blows up the house. Sam is afraid of commitment so he avoids telling his Playboy model/mechanic girlfriend (Megan Fox, from the magazine covers) that he loves her.

In college his roommate Leo runs a robot-sighting websight. (This character will stick around for the rest of the movie because it's supposed to be funny when he gets real scared or when he gets tased.) Also a hot girl keeps hitting on Sam and his girlfriend at home gets attacked by a small robot that she tortures and captures but Sam starts seeing symbols and going nuts in class so his girlfriend comes and sees him about to fuck the other girl who turns out to be a robot like in TERMINATOR 3 so there's a car chase, etc.

At some point an hour or more in they meet up with John Turturro, who you'll remember got pissed on by a robot in the first one so in comparison his part here seems very dignified. I forgot to mention that the bad guys resurrected Megatron (dead leader from part 1) but I'm not sure why since he's now just an asskissing flunky for the new villain character, The Fallen (voiced by Tony Todd, hopefully they paid him enough that he can take a break from signing CANDYMAN posters at conventions). Megatron lives in a cave in space with Starscream and The Fallen, who if I understood correctly just sits in a throne all day shitting out slimy baby robots and complaining about the Prime brothers and how they're the only ones who can "defeat" him. So Megatron goes back to earth (jesus, I just got home, you're sending me back already?) to kill Optimus Prime so that The Fallen can come down and get the secret symbols from "the boy" and use those to find a secret tomb where his brothers sacrificed themselves to hide The Matrix, not the movie but a piece of metal that can power a machine that nobody noticed was hidden inside one of the pyramids and that will destroy the sun in order to do something else although I honestly forget what it was, but it was evil. I remember that much.

I think the robot Starscream has to stay home and take care of the babies, but I'm not sure. Most of the evil robots look about the same so I'm not sure who is in what scene, but every half hour or so I would figure out one of them was Megatron (usually standing on a building with a camera flying around it in circles) and I'd think "oh yeah, forgot about him. Where's he been?"

At one point somebody kills Optimus Prime, but the girlfriend's little robot prisoner brings them to a museum where they find a jet plane that turns into a robot that is an old man and farts parachutes but agrees with Sam's hunch that the Matrix could bring Optimus Prime back to life so he warps them to Egypt (I didn't catch how) and the military flies in with Optimus Prime's body so they bring it back to life and then a giant robot climbs up the pyramid for about ten minutes until they come up with a plan: shoot something at him, and that kills him. Then I think there was some more fighting, Sam died and went to robot heaven and came back and at the end Megatron was still apparently there because I remember he ran away. Score by Steve Jablonsky featuring Linkin Park.

It's hard to measure but in my opinion this is the single worst script ever used in one of these huge moron movies. It makes INDEPENDENCE DAY seem witty and tightly structured. Traditionally plenty of stupid shit happens in a movie like this, but usually there's an obvious plot there, "they have to stop the aliens from destroying the world, so they find a flaw in their defense systems and work out a plan to destroy them" or whatever. It's a new development to make it so hard for a normal person to even have a clue what the fuck is supposed to be going on, what anybody is trying to do. Michael Bay applied this disorientation method first to editing, then to character design, and now to writing. But it's good for many laughs because every 30 minutes or so some robot earnestly gives some explanation of some magic gizmo or ancient history that comes out of the fuckin blue and then they're off to do some other stupid shit somewhere else. At about the 2 hour mark it sinks in that you are nowhere near a passable ending or climax to a story and there could well be another hour or more left.

I think you all know where I stand on TRANSFORMERS PART 1. I took some flack because I hated the fucking thing but apparently it was agreed on that we were gonna let that one slide. I guess I took it a little personally because I love these types of movies when they're done well, so it really chapped my hide to hear everybody parroting and accepting that cliche about it's just a summer movie, it's supposed to be dumb and incomprehensible, what did you expect, Terminator 2 Terminator 3 Hamlet? only a dijon mustard loving elitist snob would not get a huge boner just from watching a blurry robot punch (hug?) another robot (building?) in 1 second shots while a camera rotates around it really fast so fuck you you hate America why did you call me stupid by saying you don't like it you are a faggot it's not supposed to win oscars.

You know me, I can enjoy stupid movies, even bad movies. I fucking wrote SEAGALOGY, man, of course I understand appreciating different types of movies for what they are, warts and all. All I'm saying is have the courage of your convictions. If you like it, tell me why you like it. Don't just give me a list of the standards it's not supposed to live up to. You're selling movies short. Don't tell me that a movie about this can't also be good. And especially don't tell me that this counts as good action scenes. That's crossing a line, pal. That's like pissing on Abraham Lincoln's grave.

It's a fight I still get dragged into from time to time but you know what, after last summer had THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN and WALL-E, all great, fun, smart, well-made, and hugely popular, it's hard to really get upset about it anymore. I can let go of my fear that standards are so low nobody will try to make good ones anymore. If people like a movie I think is shit then so be it. It'll take more than Michael Bay to kill the summer movie.

But give him an A for effort, he's running after the summer movie naked with a chainsaw like Patrick Bateman. And he has the same abs. TRANSFORMERS PART 2 THE REVENGE OF THE FALLEN is the single most relentless cinematic assault on the human brain that technology has been able to achieve so far. It has everything from the first one, but more: more robots, more visual information, more confusion, more bad jokes, more racism, more minutes to sit through. I compared part 1 to BATMAN AND ROBIN, which nobody agrees with. But forget about the quality comparison and consider this as a case of Batman and Robin Syndrome. Director makes dumb movie, people are okay with it and make it a huge hit, so for the next one the studio says "he seems to know what he's doing" and lets him indulge in every excess and fetish a couple hundred million dollars can buy, truly believing that's what people want because they paid money that first time.

Well, they're paying money a second time too, and that's all that matters to Bay, unfortunately. But unless the general audience response is drastically different from what I've seen so far I think it will have the same effect of killing the popularity of the first one. After all, the robots in that one won't seem as novel after having seen this one. It'll be obsolete. But who wants to watch this shit again?

That really is the only thing the movie intentionally has going for it: an unprecedented amount of ridiculously detailed CGI creations. But just like last time they're put into such a dumb story making such terrible jokes that it's hard to care, and on the occasions when they do the robot fighting that fans of the movies keep talking about it's not all that exciting because you sort of want all of the characters to die and you can't tell if they did because the groundbreakingly indecipherable designs make it hard to tell exactly what's going on. I honestly think they made an effort to pull the camera back a little this time, and I was able to follow it slightly better. In probaly the best scene (I guess) Optimus fights a bunch of bad guys in a forest, and although I don't know who any of the bad guys were I was able to tell that Optimus was the one in the middle and the grey guys surrounding him were the bad guys. That's progress.

In the same way that I'd rather watch BATMAN AND ROBIN again than BATMAN FOREVER (because both are terrible so you go for the more spectacularly terrible one), I enjoyed this alot more than the first one. I have to admit I had a big smile on my face. This crazy motherfucker never runs out of what the fuck!?! moments. I'm sure you've heard about many of these but this movie includes: wrecking ball testicles, robot farting, a robot humping Megan Fox's leg (and she likes it), an extended skit about Sam's mom getting high on pot and going around tackling people, a robot with a cane and beard, a robot that talks like Joe Pesci, internal car peeing in the form of anti-freeze on a girl's face, John Turturro suddenly tearing his pants off to show a closeup of his ass in a g-string, and a scene where Turturro tells a robot that a story he's telling should have a clear beginning, middle and end, a "plot," - as if one of the screenwriters is trying to send out an S.O.S.

I'm kind of fascinated by the schizophrenic tone not only from scene to scene, but even within a scene. For example when the gremlinbots attack Sam it keeps changing from shot to shot whether they seem to want it to be a hilarious comedy scene or a tense moment. People are getting attacked, I think somebody dies, then it cuts to dogs fucking, then Bumblebee gets a hero shot accompanied by THE ROCK style music of courageousness, then the mom bumps her head and it makes a sound like two pans hitting together. It's like one of those writing exercises where you write one sentence and then pass it on to somebody else to continue. Sometimes there are weird non-sequitur cuts like suddenly the hot girl is walking down a hall for no apparent purpose, or they walk out of the Smithsonian and appear in an airplane graveyard. Like in BAD BOYS 2 Bay seems to think he can both do a serious movie and make constant lame jokes.In the middle of what I guess is a tense sequence where the whole world is after Sam there's a cameo by Deep Roy as an Egyptian border guard, they make midget jokes and then he lets them through because he knows John Turturro from a falaffel stand in New York. Get it?  I think the comedy is his worst sin, worse even than the action scenes, because constant unfunny jokes are harder to laugh at than confusing action scenes.

I'm sure you've all heard about "the twins" Mudflap and Skids, last seen in a montage in Spike Lee's BAMBOOZLED. It's funny because in my review of part 1 I got on Michael Bay for the racist stereotype of having a "black" robot whose entire part is to say "what's crackin bitches?", do a breakdance move, and later be dead. Well jesus, that seems quaint after the twins. I read all about it but when you actually see it on screen it's actually shocking, your stomach just drops. They're these two "comic relief" robots who talk ebonics, always punch each other and talk about "popping a cap in your ass." Defending the bigotry to the Associated Press, Bay said "Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," and "I purely did it for kids.  Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them." Which explains why they're first disguised as an ice cream truck that says "SUCK MY POPSICLE" on the side of it, and spend most of the movie punching each other and calling each other "pussy." Because of the kids.

(By the way, have you ever noticed how blowhards like to throw in a "listen" here and there? "Listen, you're going to have naysayers on anything. Even David Duke, when he ran for office, alot of naysayers were saying nay to that. Are you listening? Listen. Listen to this. Listen to me. Shut the fuck up and listen. Listen, I'm Michael Bay." Other good phrases for Michael Bay to use would be "Hark!" or "I declare!")

Although there was alot of derisive laughter throughout the movie, some of the audience I saw it with were into it enough that they clapped during some of the fights. But in the scene where you first see the twins' faces clearly everybody groaned and booed. That was right before the joke about how they don't know how to read. I'm embarrassed for Steven Spielberg having his name on this thing, not just because it's so terrible but because I know he fucking knows better. He should have to bring Michael Bay to a slavery museum. Sure, the jive-talking gangsta wannabe stereotype is a common one, but those faces are straight out of some Ku Klux Klan newsletter, or at best a cartoon from the 1930s. How the fuck does that even happen? Look at that shit! He has a gold tooth! They have monkey ears and stoned eyes! This is actually in a 2009 movie, no joke! Who designed these and why?

In Devin Feraci's article about the twins he mentioned that Spielberg was going to screen the movie for the Obama family. Maybe he was making some joke I didn't get because I can't find any other reference to this, but if it's true I would've loved to see the CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM-worthy uncomfortableness on his face during that "we don't read so much" scene. Sitting there with the first black president, watching ol' Mudflap and Skids. What a great time. If I was Spielberg I would've shown up and said "Hey Obamas, I've got a special treat. I know I said we were watching TRANSFORMERS 2 but instead I brought E.T.! Or MUNICH! SUGARLAND EXPRESS! Anything! Whatever you guys want to watch from all of my movies pre-summer of 2009, we're watching it! Just for you guys!"

There are other politics in the movie that I think are on purpose, not just done out of moronic ignorance. One of the bad guys is a nerdy bureaucrat working for Obama, who talks about diplomacy in the same way a bad guy dean talks about discipline in a fraternity movie. (Michael Bay hates nerds and has to have a scene where a soldier physically humiliates the guy and practically makes him shit his pants.) This guy wants the Autobots to leave earth, because if they weren't there the Decepticons wouldn't be attacking and the war would go away. Optimus says he'll leave if Obama asks him to but implies that it would be foolish and fatal. So yeah, I'm pretty sure Michael Bay wants us to stay in Iraq. Good one. Thanks for your insights, genius.

So, there is some political subtext here and there, but I don't know who wants to analyze that shit. As far as I'm concerned the one aspect of this thing that deserve more thought is the robot babies. Did I dream that part? I had to ask some other people and although one was too drunk to remember it two others agreed with me that there really was a scene with slimy robot babies. The movie just throws that one in your face like you already know about it. "Oh yes, of course, there is a cave in space where Starscream is the nanny to a whole bunch of baby robots. Everyone knows that. You didn't know that?"

I don't know if there are webisodes or prequel comics all about the Deceptitots, or a spinoff sitcom, but personally I was surprised. I guess it's like CARS, you gotta wonder how these things reproduce. Even Tyrese muses about Optimus Prime, "You gotta wonder - if God made us in his image, who made him?" You know how Tyrese is though, always philosophizing. It seems like The Fallen must be the Queen Transformer, laying robot eggs, but I'm not sure. We do know there are girl Transformers, but they don't seem capable of bearing the entire race. I count four, and one of them just has one line and then dies, and then another one dies, and a third one I think might also die in that scene but of course there is no way to really know in a movie like this. Plus all of them are skinny and do not have robot-bearing hips.

It would be best for mankind if there is never a part 3 and if everyone involved in making this one goes off to live on an island harvesting bees and staying away from any sort of device that would cause them to share ideas or pictures with the outside world. But there is a chance these pricks are in it only for the money and will make a part 3, so if that happens I hope they will address the nature or nurture issue. Are these Trasformkins born Autobots or Decepticons? Or are they raised that way? At what point do they grow the symbol? Is it possible for a doctortron to see the symbol on an ultrasound? We learn from the guy with the robot beard and the "funny" Scottish accent that it's possible to switch sides, so the symbol really doesn't prove anything. But I doubt most Transformers see it that way. They're gonna be real upset when a baby pops out with the wrong symbol. It leads to some serious ethical and biomechanical issues.
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PART II

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

Geoffreyjar wrote to me to ask why I thought people were being so harsh in their reviews when really this is just more of the same shit everybody liked two years ago. For example Roger Ebert wrote a hilariously dead-on evisceration of the movie, but doesn't ever argue that it's different from the first one, which he gave three stars and seemed to enjoy. And it's true, alot of these reviews are basically saying the same things I ranted about in my part 1 review that made so many people so mad.

To answer Geoff's question I believe it's because the novelty of computer animated robots was the only thing people liked in the first one. Same thing here but the novelty has worn off so now they're noticing the rest of it. They're being harsh because they're going through what some of us went through with part 1. I already aired my grievances about the action scenes looking like a closeup of a ball of smashed cars rolling down a hill. So now I guess I'm less mad about it and more able to laugh about it. As camp, if  you're able to stomach it, it's actually pretty hilarious for a while, although it would be much funnier if they trimmed 60-80 minutes. I usually think people have too short of attention spans but this is clearly too long for a movie that doesn't make a very serious attempt to include characters or stories.

I think Roger Ebert may be right, this may be the peak for this type of crap. It would be pretty hard to devise a more potent mix of expensive and horrible. Stephen Sommers and Roland Emmerich will make movies almost as stupid and equally full of destruction, but it will seem a little underwhelming. Unless some studio wants to spend $400 million on an adaptation of a Mountain Dew commercial with  no script, seven years of postproduction and the entire cast in blackface this is about as far as this path will take them. Even then, what kind of special effects would catch people's attention? No matter what stupid shit they come up with people will think, "Yeah, but are there twenty or thirty fifty foot tall robots with ten thousand moving parts wiggling around? No? Then I'm not impressed."

To say that Optimus Prime has an overly complicated design is a huge understatement. I don't even like to look at the fuckin thing. Then at the end another robot dies so Optimus takes the pieces of his corpse and attaches them to himself to go into battle! Never mind the weird Ed Gein implications of that, it's just funny that they think it's a good idea to add even more clutter. That's all they can do is keep spending more money to stack more junk on top of junk. Either that or go back to that whole "good stories and characters" idea from last summer.

 

Taj Vern je genije. Šteta što je obamac, though 

Da li je Michael Bay snimio film kojim je čitav koncept blokbastera doveo do besmisla u svojoj prenabudženosti, opštem ataku na čula i potpunoj negaciji scenarija? Ova zabavna kritika ukazuje na tako nešto...

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Critical consensus on Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is overwhelmingly negative. But the critics are wrong. Michael Bay used a squillion dollars and a hundred supercomputers' worth of CG for a brilliant art movie about the illusory nature of plot.

Oh, and I would warn you that there'll be spoilers in this review — except that, really, since I still have no idea what actually happened in this movie, I'm not sure how much I can spoil it.

Since the days of Un Chien Andalou and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, filmmakers have reached beyond meaning. But with this summer's biggest, loudest movie, Michael Bay takes us all the way inside Caligari's cabinet. And once you enter, you can never emerge again. I saw this movie two days ago, and I'm still living inside it. Things are exploding wherever I look, household appliances are trying to kill me, and bizarre racial stereotypes are shouting at me.

Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense. It's an assault on the senses, a barrage of crazy imagery. Imagine that you went back in time to the late 1960s and found Terry Gilliam, fresh from doing his weird low-fi collage/animations for Monty Python. You proceeded to inject Gilliam with so many steroids his penis shrank to the size of a hair follicle, and you smushed a dozen tabs of LSD under his tongue. And then you gave him the GDP of a few sub-Saharan countries. Gilliam might have made a movie not unlike this one.

And the true genius of Transformers: ROTF is that Bay has put all of this excess of imagery and random ideas at the service of the most pandering movie genre there is: the summer movie. ROTF is like twenty summer movies, with unrelated storylines, smushed together into one crazy whole. You try in vain to understand how the pieces fit, you stare into the cracks between the narrative strands, until the cracks become chasms and the chasms become an abyss into which you stare until it looks deep into your own soul, and then you go insane. You. Do. Not. Leave. The Cabinet.

Michael Bay understands that summer movies are about two things: male anxiety, and pure id. That's why he casts Shia LaBoeuf, that supreme avatar of pure male inadequacy, in the lead role. LaBoeuf projects a pathetic, wall-eyed dorkhood, when he's not babbling like a tumor removed from Woody Allen's prostate that somehow achieved sentience. I imagine the DVD of ROTF will include a whole disk of outtakes where they had to stop filming because LaBoeuf was drooling on camera. As it is, the film includes several extreme closeups of LaBoeuf's dazed stare.

Where was I? Oh yes. So LaBoeuf, who's actually a fine actor, is the stand-in for the male viewers' greatest fears about themselves. No matter how great a loser they might be, they can't be as losery a loser as Sam Witwicky. And yet, Sam has awesome giant robots stomping around telling him he's the most important awesome person ever. And he has the hottest girlfriend in the universe, Megan Fox, for whom banality is a huge aphrodisiac. The more pathetic Sam gets, the more Fox's lips pout and her nipples point, like little Irish setters.

To make matters more awesome for the insecure males in the audience, Sam actually tosses aside his giant robot fanclub and his walking-pinup girlfriend, so he can have a normal life. Of course, this only leads to other robots and hawt chicks (who turn out to be robots too) throwing themselves at him and telling him how important he is. In the end, everybody learns to appreciate Sam just a bit more than they already did, and a booming voice tells him he's earned the "matrix of leadership" through his courage and stuff.

And then there's the "id" part, which is the part where stuff blows up real good, and huge machines smash each other up. And every single performance is so ridiculous that it looks down on "over the top" as if from a great height. It's the part of your brain that thinks it would be awesome to see robots with giant dangling testicles, or hot chicks turning into robot tentacle monsters, or "ghetto" robots that talk in inept hip-hop slang and smash each other playfully, or funny Jewish men who talk about their "schmear" and randomly strip to their G-strings. Is that going too far? Then let's go 100 times farther than that and see what happens!

Transformers: ROTF is so long, you'll need to wear adult diapers to it. But the movie's pure celebration of the primal urge, and unfiltered living, will make you rejoice in your adult diapers. You'll relieve yourself in your seat with a savage joy, your barbaric yawp blending in with the crowd's screams of excitement.

And yet — and here's the part where I really think ROTF approaches "art movie" status — the movie's id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.

The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' Speed Racer, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.

And around hour six of ROTF, something curious happens: the two components — male enhancement and pure id — start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like tits and ass: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up everything in the world. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.

So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality — but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There's no such thing as the "real world," and the only thing that's left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you're drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?

So yes, ROTF approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.

So I've gotten almost all the way through this review, and I still haven't summarized the movie's plot. Here goes. It's a couple years after the first movie, and Sam is going off to college, leaving his transforming car and his hot girlfriend, whom he still hasn't told he loves her. And meanwhile, the soldiers from the first movie are running around with a bunch of late-model GM cars and trucks, which turn into robots and fight other robots sometimes. Sam sees weird symbols which make no sense (and they still make no sense at the end of the movie) and they turn out to be the key to the location of a thing that can control another thing, that will enable the bad guys to destroy the sun. Sam has to embrace the heroic destiny he's rejected, so he can save us all from solarcide.

But that bare plot summary doesn't include the twenty or thirty other storylines that could also claim to be the movie's plot. There's the whole thing where someone from Washington D.C. wonders why the U.S. military is running around the globe with a bunch of late-model GM cars from outer space, and tries to put the kibosh on the military-Autobot complex. There's the teenager who's got a conspiracy website, that competes with another conpsiracy website which turns out to be the work of a secret agent who's decided that the best way to keep things secret is to put them on a website. (It works. I post secret stuff on io9 all the time.) Various robots die and then come back to life, and there's a whole strand about whether Decepticons (the bad ones) can become Autobots (the good ones). And there's the Fallen, who's sort of the movie's villain even though he barely shows up. And people from 17,000 BC who had weird teeth and fought robots. And the ancient Egyptians did stuff. And Sam's parents go to France except that they meet a robot and then they're in Egypt.

Really, I could go on and on. This movie starts out with a coherent storyline, for the first half hour or so, and then it just starts to spin faster and faster until the centrifuge of random events slams you into the walls. It doesn't help that there are 500 robots in the movie and they all look kind of the same.

Oh, but that's the other thing about ROTF. It's actually quite funny, a lot of the time. Some of the jokes fall flat, like the "twin" robots with the ghetto speak, and a lot of the stuff with John Turturro. But the movie's relentless silliness is mostly pretty hilarious, in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, and almost nothing in the movie seems intended to be taken seriously.

So, to sum up: Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen is one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinema, if not the greatest. You could easily argue that cinema, as an artform, has all been leading up to this. It will destabilize your limbic system, probably forever, and make you doubt the solidity of your surroundings. Generations of auteurs have struggled, in vain, to create a cinematic experience as overwhelming, and as liberating, as ROTF.

Women as well as men, everyone watching this film will feel the dissolution of all their certainties, all their illusory grasp on the world... but after you fall into a brazen despair that the walls of reality have become toxic ice cream of a million flavors, you will gasp with a greater realization: that once the world is reduced, forever, to a kaleidoscope of whirling shapes, you are totally free. Nothing matters, effect precedes cause, fish spawn in mid-air, and you can do whatever you want. Let yourself go in your adult diaper, Michael Bay invites you. Feel the music of total excess stir inside your deepest core. It is your Allspark, your cube. And you are a Transformer.

ne znam kako iko može da OVOME posveti duže od jednog minuta svog vremena, ali ok, vaši životi, vaša stvar.

Quote from: Ghoul on 01-07-2009, 14:19:43ne znam kako iko može da OVOME posveti duže od jednog minuta svog vremena, ali ok, vaši životi, vaša stvar.

Na šta misliš? Ako misliš na ove dugačke kritike one su prilično zabavne i pronicljivo napisane, pa stoga vredne za pročitati bez obzira da li je neko film gledao ili namerava li da ga gleda. Ako misliš da je gledanje nastavka Transformersa bacanje dva i po sata života u nepovrat, slažem se sa tim, ali ja sam odlučio da film pogledam kako bi o njemu nešto i napisao; i sam si iz čisto akademskih razloga (tj. da bi imao materijala za argumentovanu kritiku) pogledao gomilu bezvrednih horora od kojih, siguran sam, u startu ništa nisi očekivao. To je sličan princip. Inače, odložio sam lobotomiju za sutra, pošto čim odlučim da se zaputim u bioskop na Bejformerse odmah krene provala oblaka.

...u međuvremenu, ni konkurencija ne zgubidani...

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... donji dom cast liste krije i jednu dragu, a dugo odsutnu gošću - JENNIFER RUBIN...

miki, svesno sam bio dvosmislen jer mi čak ni ta predugačka vernova bičevanja mrtvog, raspadnutog i crvima izjedenog konja nije vredna detaljnog čitanja (preleteo sam pogledom i pročitao samo nekoliko pasusa da se uverim da je film baš takav kakav očekujem) a slično važi i za ovaj drugi rivju.
previše je nepročitanih duhovitih i pametnih stvari napisano o pametnim i truda vrednim stvarima da bih pratio napise o ovoj orgiji bezvrednosti i idiotizma.
a kamo li pak pokušavao da TO gledam.
ne verujem da bih gledo ni da traje 80' a kamo li to od 140' ili koliko već!

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Although there was alot of derisive laughter throughout the movie, some of the audience I saw it with were into it enough that they clapped during some of the fights. But in the scene where you first see the twins' faces clearly everybody groaned and booed. That was right before the joke about how they don't know how to read. I'm embarrassed for Steven Spielberg having his name on this thing, not just because it's so terrible but because I know he fucking knows better. He should have to bring Michael Bay to a slavery museum. Sure, the jive-talking gangsta wannabe stereotype is a common one, but those faces are straight out of some Ku Klux Klan newsletter, or at best a cartoon from the 1930s. How the fuck does that even happen? Look at that shit! He has a gold tooth! They have monkey ears and stoned eyes! This is actually in a 2009 movie, no joke! Who designed these and why?
In Devin Feraci's article about the twins he mentioned that Spielberg was going to screen the movie for the Obama family. Maybe he was making some joke I didn't get because I can't find any other reference to this, but if it's true I would've loved to see the CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM-worthy uncomfortableness on his face during that "we don't read so much" scene. Sitting there with the first black president, watching ol' Mudflap and Skids. What a great time.

Izgleda da Vern nije posećivao youtube tijekom souljaboyevogtellem heydaya. Ta čak i crni đavoli poput Krisa Roka kažu da čamuge ne čitaju. A i beli Megatron ih nije prekinuo na pola kao crnju iz prvog filma.
Inače, svaki put kada bi Optimus progovorio očekivao sam da počne trejler.

Šta sad, kad embedujem link u slova ona postanu link, a video se ukači u stranu? Podržavam da takvo prozorče ima link ispod na koji može da se klikne, ako hoću da ga ukačim na forum a gledam na youtubu (ili simultano, što se desi kada se klikne dvaput). Ali može li da ostane samo u slovima?

Evo nečeg za Kripleta i Miloša:

Storyboards from Michael Bay's The Great Gatsby/

SJAJNO: a major improvement on a timeless masterpiece!

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