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Meho Krljic

Quote from: scallop on 23-11-2010, 14:20:52
U SAD pretpostavljaju da kad neko donira odeću ili obuću, onda vodi računa šta donira.

Pa znam, ali da upotrebim kolokvijalnu uzrečicu, znaš ti gde su oni a gde smo mi?

Quote from: scallop on 23-11-2010, 14:20:52
Naravno, sve ide još jednom na hemijsko čišćenje.

E, ali to je ključna razlika. U ovoj zemlji većina opštinskih Crvenih krstova naprosto nema novca da to radi. Da se razumemo, najvećma je to jer nisu baš vični biznis menadžmentu, ali rezultat je da im se ne isplati da uopšte razmišljaju o tome jer ne bi imali para da plate osnovne troškove rada organizacije.


Quote from: scallop on 23-11-2010, 14:20:52Zbog brljavljenja opštinskih CK ljudi i ne doniraju odeću. Spuste kraj kontejnera za đubre i nek' nosi ko hoće.

Jasno. Kako već rekoh, većina menadžmenta u Crvenom krstu ovde nije preterano... business savvy, da tako kažem. Ako je za utehu, dobar broj CK/CP menadžmenta širom sveta takođe nije preterano business savvy. Ima dosta razloga za to a možda najosnovniji je što CK/CP i dalje u velikoj meri ima ulogu pre svega kao agencija koja odgovara u hitnim situacijama a u njima novca najčešće ima mnogo u opticaju, rukovanje istim je haotično sa svih strana i ni ne očekuje se velika efikasnost u menadžmentu ili veliko iskorišćenje uloženih sredstava. Mislim, u tim situacijama važe da tako kažem, humanitarna pravila ekonomije, ne uobičajena... E, onda se to pretače i u svakodnevni rad CK/CP i rezultat je da ne pričamo o baš najsposobnijoj organizaciji u smislu poslovne efikasnosti ili planiranja. Naravno, sama činjenica da ta organizacija MENE plaća da išta radim je dovoljan dokaz.

Quote from: scallop on 23-11-2010, 14:20:52Nacionalni CK bi mogao da se pozabavi i sopstvenom efikasnošću, jer ogromne količine dobrih stvari, preko lokalnih kontejner čitača, završi na buvljaku. Tako, svojevremeno, mal' nisam kupio sopstvenu SmithCorona pisaću mašunu, koju sam dan ranije "spustio" kraj kontejnera.

Da, svakako. Da ne bude zabune, nacionalni CK je efikasniji i sposobniji od većine svojih lokalnih ogranaka, ali u načelu i dalje ne preterano efikasan. S druge strane, kad ih uporediš sa drugim humanitarnim agencijama, ne odskaču oni uopšte kao negativan egzemplar menadžmenta. Naprosto, opet je humanitarna ekonomija nešto što nije isto što i obična i ne važe ista merila. Mislim, ne pričam ovo da bih sad nekog pravdao, nego je takvo stanje stvari...

Quote from: crippled_avenger on 23-11-2010, 14:26:33
A je li Mehmete, kad uzimate organe, onda ne pitate? :)

Crveni križ i Polumjesec se time ne bave. Ako neko hoće da ih da sam od sebe, možemo da se dogovorimo, ali posle radnog vremena.

crippled_avenger

ja sam čuo da se bavite. :)
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Lies and slander.

scallop

Nema strašno. Ja sam samo mislio da možda imaš neki pametan predlog.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

 :cry: ovo je najpametniji.

crippled_avenger

Malin Akerman has replaced Lindsay Lohan in the role of Linda Lovelace in Matthew Wilder's "Inferno" reports The Hollywood Reporter.

Based on 1980's "Ordeal: An Autobiography", the story follows how Lovelace became a household name in 1972 due to the massive success of porn film "Deep Throat".

She later renounced her pornography career, alleging it had been forced upon by her sadistic husband. She subsequently became a staunch anti-pornography advocate which she remained until her death in a traffic accident in 2002.

Lohan's involvement was announced earlier this year and Wilder, who directs from his own screenplay, stuck by his star throughout much of her media troubles. Only recently though, the sheer impossibility of insuring Lohan has forced him to seek another actress.

Shooting kicks off in February.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Pa, dobro... nisam je volio u Watchmenu, ali u tom filmu je malo toga bilo da se voli. Možda zablista kao LL. Tu priču treba lepo ispričati.

DušMan

Najsvetlija tačka filma Watchmen su Malinine grudi.
Moglo bi se reći da su najsvetlije tačke tog filma njene bradavice, ako bismo hteli da ispadnemo vickasti.
Nekoć si bio punk, sad si Štefan Frank.

crippled_avenger

E, kad se setim šta sam slušao kad sam bio mlad, i onda pogledam DušMana...

Svarog-War( Is Within )
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Stvarno.

Taj Svarog je bio takav munze konza da se i danas žderem što su tako malo toga napravili. Ali slušam ih rado.


crippled_avenger

Sjajan bend.

Plus je bubnjar brat Simeona Vilovskog, kontroverznog monaha. :) Beat that!
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Pa i Šola se posle zamonašio. Ma genijalan bend.

Nego, pošto nemamo topik "Zašto mrzim Apple i sve što predstavljaju", moram ovo da kačim ovde:

The 15 completely useless iPhone Apps

Naravno, ovde je Apple kriv tek kao neko ko omogućava ovakve bedastoće, ali zbog toga ih samo još više mrzim.

crippled_avenger

Slazem se. Meni su oni kad sam bio klinac bili ne samo omiljeni bend nego potpuno fascinantna pojava na sceni. Mislim, okej, to mocno izgleda i danas ali zamisli kako je kad imas 12 godina. Ako je ista odavde moglo otici napolje, to je Svarog. Mislim, okej, u pauzi Bad Brainsa mogao je i Eyesburn ali Svarog je jedan...
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Plottz

Šola je oženjen,živi na Karaburmi,ima dvoje lepe zdrave dece(nije monah nit` je bio).
subota 14

Meho Krljic

Prokletnik, sve nas je prevario tim lažnim zamonašenjem.

No, nek je samo bre živ i zdrav. Dosta jedan monah u porodici.  :lol: Hvala na informaciji.

meni je Trial song uvek bio favorit:

Svarog - Trial Song Live@Dom Omladine

Pošto je jako vukao na Godflesh, naravno.

Meho Krljic

Mada je i NRTB genijalna

Svarog-No Right To Breathe

Šteta što izgleda JuTjub nema Never Follow. Ta je ubijala.

crippled_avenger

TRIAL se beše svira u GETU, jel tako?

Tu su ih baš uslikali sjajno. Izgledali su kao sa MTVa i to da ne znaš jel HEADBANGER'S BALL ili ALTERNATIVE NATION.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Nisam nikad gledao Geto iako sam u njegovom snimanju učestvovao  :lol:

crippled_avenger

Ima da se skine sa RS, narezacu ti...
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Plottz

Mračna su vremena bila,mračno dobar bend!
Već smo neđe to pisali...SMORE CORE
subota 14

Meho Krljic

Quote from: crippled_avenger on 26-11-2010, 20:53:30
Ima da se skine sa RS, narezacu ti...

Ma znam da ima, nego me nikada nije interesovalo. A i uvek me je bolela ta kombinacija tela i lica Čavketa a glasa i izražavanja Miška Bilbije. U naše vreme su i za manje od toga vodili pred zid.

Quote from: Plottz on 26-11-2010, 20:57:50
Mračna su vremena bila,mračno dobar bend!
Već smo neđe to pisali...SMORE CORE

Jeste, šteta što su tako kratko opstojali. Ali Boško je rešio da okrene novi list u životu (i okrenuo ga je... malo je ljudi koji su se tako temeljno reinventovali kao on  :lol: ), a iako je Svarog i bez njega održao barem jedan izvrstan koncert (na Akademiji, 1996. godine), nije se moglo dalje, izgleda.

Plottz

Ja imam čak i neki Đurin singl posle Stvaroga:MINIMUN,čist HC.
subota 14

Meho Krljic

Da, Minimum je dobar, šteta što je i to manje-više batalio.

crippled_avenger


C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 05 MOSCOW 009533

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/30/2016
TAGS: PGOV ECON PINR RS
SUBJECT: A CAUCASUS WEDDING


Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission Daniel A. Russell. Reason 1.4 (
b, d)

Summary
-------

¶1. (C) Weddings are elaborate in Dagestan, the largest
autonomy in the North Caucasus. On August 22 we attended a
wedding in Makhachkala, Dagestan's capital: Duma member and
Dagestan Oil Company chief Gadzhi Makhachev's son married a
classmate. The lavish display and heavy drinking concealed
the deadly serious North Caucasus politics of land,
ethnicity, clan, and alliance. The guest list spanned the
Caucasus power structure -- guest starring Chechen leader
Ramzan Kadyrov -- and underlined just how personal the
region's politics can be. End Summary.

¶2. (C) Dagestani weddings are serious business: a forum for
showing respect, fealty and alliance among families; the
bride and groom themselves are little more than showpieces.
Weddings take place in discrete parts over three days. On
the first day the groom's family and the bride's family
simultaneously hold separate receptions. During the
receptions the groom leads a delegation to the bride's
reception and escorts her back to his own reception, at which
point she formally becomes a member of the groom's family,
forsaking her old family and clan. The next day, the groom's
parents hold another reception, this time for the bride's
family and friends, who can "inspect" the family they have
given their daughter to. On the third day, the bride's
family holds a reception for the groom's parents and family.

Father of the Groom
-------------------

¶3. (C) On August 22, Gadzhi Makhachev married off his 19
year-old son Dalgat to Aida Sharipova. The wedding in
Makhachkala, which we attended, was a microcosm of the social
and political relations of the North Caucasus, beginning with
Gadzhi's own biography. Gadzhi started off as an Avar clan
leader. Enver Kisriyev, the leading scholar of Dagestani
society, told us that as Soviet power receded from Dagestan
in the late 1980s, the complex society fell back to its
pre-Russian structure. The basic structural unit is the
monoethnic "jamaat," in this usage best translated as
"canton" or "commune." The ethnic groups themselves are a
Russian construct: faced with hundreds of jamaats, the 19th
century Russian conquerors lumped cantons speaking related
dialects together and called them "Avar," "Dargin," etc. to
reduce the number of "nationalities" in Dagestan to 38. Ever
since then, jamaats within each ethnic group have been
competing with one another to lead the ethnic group. This
competition is especially marked among the Avars, the largest
nationality in Dagestan.

¶4. (C) As Russian power faded, each canton fielded a militia
to defend its people both in the mountains and the capital
Makhachkala. Gadzhi became the leader from his home canton
of Burtunay, in Kazbek Rayon. He later asserted pan-Avar
ambitions, founding the Imam Shamil Popular Front -- named
after the great Avar leader of mountaineer resistance to the
Russians -- to promote the interests of the Avars and of
Burtunay's role within the ethnic group. Among his exploits
was a role in the military defense of Dagestan against the
1999 invasion from Chechnya by Shamil Basayev and al-Khattab,
and his political defense of Avar villages under pressure in
Chechnya, Georgia and Azerbaijan.

¶5. (C) Gadzhi has cashed in the social capital he made from
nationalism, translating it into financial and political
capital -- as head of Dagestan's state oil company and as the
single-mandate representative for Makhachkala in Russia's
State Duma. His dealings in the oil business -- including
close cooperation with U.S. firms -- have left him well off
enough to afford luxurious houses in Makhachkala, Kaspiysk,
Moscow, Paris and San Diego; and a large collection of luxury
automobiles, including the Rolls Royce Silver Phantom in
which Dalgat fetched Aida from her parents' reception.
(Gadzhi gave us a lift in the Rolls once in Moscow, but the
legroom was somewhat constricted by the presence of a
Kalashnikov carbine at our feet. Gadzhi has survived
numerous assassination attempts, as have most of the
still-living leaders of Dagestan. In Dagestan he always
travels in an armored BMW with one, sometimes two follow cars
full of uniformed armed guards.)

¶6. (C) Gadzhi has gone beyond his Avar base, pursuing a
multi-ethnic cadre policy to develop a network of loyalists.
He has sent Dagestani youths, including his sons, to a
military type high school near San Diego (we met one
graduate, a Jewish boy from Derbent now studying at San Diego
state. He has no plans to enter the Russian military).

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Gadzhi's multi-ethnic reach illustrates what the editor of
the Dagestani paper "Chernovik" told us: that in the last
few years the development of inter-ethnic business clans has
eroded traditional jamaat loyalties.

¶7. (C) But the Avar symbolism is still strong. Gadzhi's
brother, an artist from St. Petersburg, ordered as a wedding
gift a life-sized statue of Imam Shamil. Shamil is the
iconic national symbol, despite his stern and inflexible
character (portrayed in Tolstoy's "Hadji-Murat" as the
mountaineers' tyrannical counterpart to the absolutist Tsar).
Connection with Shamil makes for nobility among Avars today.
Gadzhi often mentions that he is a descendant on his
mother's side of Gair-Bek, one of Shamil's deputies.

The Day Before
--------------

¶8. (C) Gadzhi's Kaspiysk summer house is an enormous
structure on the shore of the Caspian, essentially a huge
circular reception room -- much like a large restaurant --
attached to a 40-meter high green airport tower on columns,
accessible only by elevator, with a couple of bedrooms, a
reception room, and a grotto whose glass floor was the roof
of a huge fish tank. The heavily guarded compound also
boasts a second house, outbuildings, a tennis court, and two
piers out into the Caspian, one rigged with block and tackle
for launching jet skis. The house filled up with visitors
from all over the Caucasus during the afternoon of August 21.
The Chair of Ingushetia's parliament drove in with two
colleagues; visitors from Moscow included politicians,
businessmen and an Avar football coach. Many of the visitors
grew up with Gadzhi in Khasavyurt, including an Ingush
Olympic wrestler named Vakha who seemed to be perpetually
tipsy. Another group of Gadzhi's boyhood friends from
Khasavyurt was led by a man who looked like Shamil Basayev on
his day off -- flip-flops, t-shirt, baseball cap, beard --
but turned out to be the chief rabbi of Stavropol Kray. He
told us he has 12,000 co-religionists in the province, 8,000
of them in its capital, Pyatigorsk. 70 percent are, like
him, Persian-speaking Mountain Jews; the rest are a mixture
of Europeans, Georgians and Bukharans.

¶9. (C) Also present was XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. He was reserved at the time, but in a
follow-up conversation in Moscow on August 29 (please
protect) he complained that Chechnya, lacking experts to
develop programs for economic recovery, is simply demanding
and disposing of cash from the central government. When we
pressed him on disappearances, he admitted some took place,
but claimed that often parents alleged their children had
been abducted when in fact their sons had run off to join the
fighters or -- in a case the week before -- they had murdered
their daughter in an honor killing. We mentioned the
abduction of a widow of Basayev, allegedly to gain access to
his money. XXXXXX said he had not heard of the case, but
knew that Basayev had had no interest in wealth; he may have
been a religious fanatic, but he was a "normal" person. The
fighters who remain are not a serious military force, in XXXXX view, and many would surrender under the proper
terms and immunities. He himself is arranging the immunity
of a senior official of the Maskhadov era, whose name he
would not reveal.

¶10. (C) During lunch, Gadzhi took a congratulatory call from
Dagestan's president, Mukhu Aliyev. Gadzhi told Aliyev how
honored he would be if Aliyev could drop in at the wedding
reception. There was a degree of tension in the
conversation, which was between two figures each implicitly
claiming the mantle of leadership of the Avars. In the
event, Aliyev snubbed Gadzhi and did not show up for the
wedding, though the rest of Dagestan's political leadership
did.

¶11. (C) Though Gadzhi's house was not the venue for the main
wedding reception, he ensured that all his guests were
constantly plied with food and drink. The cooks seemed to
keep whole sheep and whole cows boiling in a cauldron
somewhere day and night, dumping disjointed fragments of the
carcass on the tables whenever someone entered the room.
Gadzhi's two chefs kept a wide variety of unusual dishes in
circulation (in addition to the omnipresent boiled meat and
fatty bouillon). The alcohol consumption before, during and
after this Muslim wedding was stupendous. Amidst an alcohol
shortage, Gadzhi had flown in from the Urals thousands of
bottles of Beluga Export vodka ("Best consumed with caviar").
There was also entertainment, beginning even that day, with
the big-name performers appearing both at the wedding hall
and at Gadzhi's summer house. Gadzhi's main act, a
Syrian-born singer named Avraam Russo, could not make it
because he was shot a few days before the wedding, but there

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was a "gypsy" troupe from St. Petersburg, a couple of Azeri
pop stars, and from Moscow, Benya the Accordion King with his
family of singers. A host of local bands, singing in Avar
and Dargin, rounded out the entertainment, which was constant
and extremely amplified.

¶10. (C) The main activity of the day was eating and drinking
-- starting from 4 p.m., about eight hours worth, all told --
punctuated, when all were laden with food and sodden with
drink, with a bout of jet skiing in the Caspian. After
dinner, though, the first band started an informal
performance -- drums, accordion and clarinet playing the
lezginka, the universal dance of the Caucasus. To the
uninitiated Westerner, the music sounds like an
undifferentiated wall of sound. This was a signal for
dancing: one by one, each of the dramatically paunchy men
(there were no women present) would enter the arena and
exhibit his personal lezginka for the limit of his duration,
usually 30 seconds to a minute. Each ethnic group's lezginka
was different -- the Dagestani lezginka the most energetic,
the Chechen the most aggressive and belligerent, and the
Ingush smoother.

Wedding Day 1
-------------

¶11. (C) An hour before the wedding reception was set to begin
the "Marrakech" reception hall was full of guests -- men
taking the air outside and women already filling a number of
the tables inside, older ones with headscarves chaperoning
dozens of teenaged girls. A Dagestani parliamentarian
explained that weddings are a principal venue for teenagers
-- and more importantly their parents -- to get a look at one
another with a view to future matches. Security was tight --
police presence on the ground plus police snipers positioned
on the roof of an overlooking apartment block. Gadzhi even
assigned one of his guards as our personal bodyguard inside
the reception. The manager told Gadzhi there were seats for
over a thousand guests at a time. At the height of the
reception, it was standing room only.

¶12. (C) At precisely two p.m. the male guests started filing
in. They varied from pols and oligarchs of all sorts -- the
slick to the Jurassic; wizened brown peasants from Burtunay;
and Dagestan's sports and cultural celebrities XXXXXXX presided over a political table in the smaller of
the two halls (the music was in the other) along with Vakha
the drunken wrestler, the Ingush parliamentarians, a member
of the Federation Council who is also a nanophysicist and has
lectured in Silicon Valley, and Gadzhi's cousin Ismail
Alibekov, a submariner first rank naval captain now serving
at the General Staff in Moscow. The Dagestani milieu appears
to be one in which the highly educated and the gun-toting can
mix easily -- often in the same person.

¶13. (C) After a couple of hours Dalgat's convoy returned with
Aida, horns honking. Dalgat and Aida got out of the Rolls
and were serenaded into the hall, and into the Makhachev
family, by a boys' chorus lining both sides of the red
carpet, dressed in costumes aping medieval Dagestani armor
with little shields and swords. The couple's entry was the
signal for the emcee to roll into high gear, and after a few
toasts the Piter "gypsies" began their performance. (The
next day one of Gadzhi's houseguests sneered, "Some gypsies!
The bandleader was certainly Jewish, and the rest of them
were blonde." There was some truth to this, but at least the
two dancing girls appeared to be Roma.)

¶14. (C) As the bands played, the marriageable girls came out
to dance the lezginka in what looked like a slowly revolving
conga line while the boys sat together at tables staring
intently. The boys were all in white shirts and black
slacks, while the girls wore a wide variety of multicolored
but fashionable cocktail dresses. Every so often someone
would shower the dancers with money -- there were some
thousand ruble notes but the currency of choice was the U.S.
hundred dollar bill. The floor was covered with them; young
children would scoop the money up to distribute among the
dancers.

¶15. (C) Gadzhi was locked into his role as host. He greeted
every guest personally as they entered the hall -- failure to
do so would cause great insult -- and later moved constantly
from table to table drinking toasts with everyone. The 120
toasts he estimated he drank would have killed anyone,
hardened drinker or not, but Gadzhi had his Afghan waiter
Khan following him around to pour his drinks from a special
vodka bottle containing water. Still, he was much the worse
for wear by evening's end. At one point we caught up with
him dancing with two scantily clad Russian women who looked
far from home. One, it turned out was a Moscow poet (later
she recited an incomprehensible poem in Gadzhi's honor) who

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was in town with a film director to write the screenplay for
a film immortalizing Gadzhi's defense of Dagestan against
Shamil Basayev. By 6 p.m. most of the houseguests had
returned to Gadzhi's seaside home for more swimming and more
jet-skiing-under-the-influence. But by 8 the summer house's
restaurant was full once more, the food and drink were
flowing, the name performers were giving acoustic renditions
of the songs they had sung at the reception, and some
stupendously fat guests were displaying their lezginkas for
the benefit of the two visiting Russian women, who had
wandered over from the reception.

The Wedding -- Day 2: Enter The Man
------------------------------------

¶16. (C) The next day's reception at the Marrakech was
Gadzhi's tribute to Aida's family, after which we all
returned to a dinner at Gadzhi's summer home. Most of the
tables were set with the usual dishes plus whole roast
sturgeons and sheep. But at 8:00 p.m. the compound was
invaded by dozens of heavily armed mujahedin for the grand
entrance of Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, dressed in jeans
and a t-shirt, looking shorter and less muscular than in his
photos, and with a somewhat cock-eyed expression on his face.
After greetings from Gadzhi, Ramzan and about 20 of his
retinue sat around the tables eating and listening to Benya
the Accordion King. Gadzhi then announced a fireworks
display in honor of the birthday of Ramzan's late father,
Ahmat-Hadji Kadyrov. The fireworks started with a bang that
made both Gadzhi and Ramzan flinch. Gadzhi had from the
beginning requested that none of his guests, most of whom
carried sidearms, fire their weapons in celebration.
Throughout the wedding they complied, not even joining in the
magnificent fireworks display.

¶17. (C) After the fireworks, the musicians struck up the
lezginka in the courtyard and a group of two girls and three
boys -- one no more than six years old -- performed gymnastic
versions of the dance. First Gadzhi joined them and then
Ramzan, who danced clumsily with his gold-plated automatic
stuck down in the back of his jeans (a houseguest later
pointed out that the gold housing eliminated any practical
use of the gun, but smirked that Ramzan probably couldn't
fire it anyway). Both Gadzhi and Ramzan showered the dancing
children with hundred dollar bills; the dancers probably
picked upwards of USD 5000 off the cobblestones. Gadzhi told
us later that Ramzan had brought the happy couple "a five
kilo lump of gold" as his wedding present. After the dancing
and a quick tour of the premises, Ramzan and his army drove
off back to Chechnya. We asked why Ramzan did not spend the
night in Makhachkala, and were told, "Ramzan never spends the
night anywhere."

¶18. (C) After Ramzan sped off, the dinner and drinking --
especially the latter -- continued. An Avar FSB colonel
sitting next to us, dead drunk, was highly insulted that we
would not allow him to add "cognac" to our wine. "It's
practically the same thing," he insisted, until a Russian FSB
general sitting opposite told him to drop it. We were
inclined to cut the Colonel some slack, though: he is head
of the unit to combat terrorism in Dagestan, and Gadzhi told
us that extremists have sooner or later assassinated everyone
who has joined that unit. We were more worried when an
Afghan war buddy of the Colonel's, Rector of the Dagestan
University Law School and too drunk to sit, let alone stand,
pulled out his automatic and asked if we needed any
protection. At this point Gadzhi and his people came over,
propped the rector between their shoulders, and let us get
out of range.

Postscript: The Practical Uses of a Caucasus Wedding
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¶19. (C) Kadyrov's attendance was a mark of respect and
alliance, the result of Gadzhi's careful cultivation --
dating back to personal friendship with Ramzan's father.
This is a necessary political tool in a region where
difficulties can only be resolved by using personal
relationships to reach ad hoc informal agreements. An
example was readily to hand: on August 22 Chechnya's
parliamentary speaker, Dukvakha Abdurakhmanov, gave an
interview in which he made specific territorial claims to the
Kizlyar, Khasavyurt and Novolak regions of Dagestan. The
first two have significant Chechen-Akkin populations, and the
last was part of Chechnya until the 1944 deportation, when
Stalin forcibly resettled ethnic Laks (a Dagestani
nationality) there. Gadzhi said he would have to answer
Abdurakhmanov and work closely with Ramzan to reduce the
tensions "that fool" had caused. Asked why he took such
statements seriously, he told us that in the Caucasus all
disputes revolve around land, and such claims can never be

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dismissed. Unresolved land claims are the "threads" the
Russian center always kept in play to pull when needed. We
asked why these claims are coming out now, and were told it
was euphoria, pure and simple. After all they had received,
the Chechen leadership's feet are miles off the ground. (A
well-connected Chechen contact later told us he thought that
raising nationalistic irredentism was part of Abdurakhmanov's
effort to gain a political base independent from Kadyrov.)

¶20. (C) The "horizontal of power" represented by Gadzhi's
relationship with Ramzan is the antithesis of the
Moscow-imposed "vertical of power." Gadzhi's business
partner Khalik Gindiyev, head of Rosneft-Kaspoil, complained
that Moscow should let local Caucasians rather than Russians
-- "Magomadovs and Aliyevs, not Ivanovs and Petrovs" --
resolve the region's conflicts. The vertical of power, he
said, is inapplicable to the Caucasus, a region that Moscow
bureaucrats such as PolPred Kozak would never understand.
The Caucasus needs to be given the scope to resolve its own
problems. But this was not a plug for democracy. Gadzhi
told us democracy would always fail in the Caucasus, where
the conception of the state is as an extension of the
Caucasus family, in which the father's word is law. "Where
is the room for democracy in that?" he asked. We paraphrased
Hayek: if you run a family as you do a state, you destroy
the family. Running a state as you do a family destroys the
state: ties of kinship and friendship will always trump the
rule of law. Gadzhi's partner agreed, shaking his head
sadly. "That's a matter for generations to come," he said.



BURNS
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Da ne poveruje čovek na šta diplomate/ špijuni moraju da troše vreme.


cutter

Quotethe compound was
invaded by dozens of heavily armed mujahedin for the grand
entrance of Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, dressed in jeans
and a t-shirt, looking shorter and less muscular than in his
photos, and with a somewhat cock-eyed expression on his face.
stvarno nije u redu o jednom ratniku reći da mu kurac viri iz očiju. a gadafijeva ukrajinka nije onakva kakvom su je mnogi predočavali:


Mark

"The 120 toasts he estimated he drank would have killed anyone,
hardened drinker or not, but Gadzhi had his Afghan waiter
Khan following him around to pour his drinks from a special
vodka bottle containing water. "

A-ha! Ovo je i meni jutros citajuci Politiku upalo u oci! 120 zdravica, to bi bilo 120 casica ili bar 40 casica sto je 2-6 litara rakije! Impresivno, pomislio sam. Kad ono - voda! :-(
Dos'o Sveti Petar i kaze meni Djordje di je ovde put za Becej, ja mu kazem mani me se, on kaze: Pricaj ne's otici u raj!
E NES NI TI U BECEJ!

http://kovacica00-24.blogspot.com/

crippled_avenger

Ma brate ni 6 litara vode nije malo...
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

crippled_avenger

Mehmete, požuri sa gledanjem četvrte epizode MISFITSa, nudi ljupku posvetu GTAu.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

zakk

Pusti čoveka da slavi na miru! Sretna Nova hidžretska 1432. godina!  xcheers
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Meho Krljic

 :| :| :| :| :| (Volim i što se ovaj smajli zove "neutral")

crippled_avenger

Mehmete, Daft Punkov skor za TRON LEGACY dokazuje da je Moroder bio u pravu.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Zar je ikada bilo sumnje da je Đorđo bio u pravu?

crippled_avenger

Ti si se sprdao sa njegovim brkovima u recenziji za Six Pack. Osim ako je to bio pun upućen isključivo meni a ti ga zapravo štuješ.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Ja ga štujem, mada ga ne bih slušao u svoje slobodno vreme. Ali ja uvek kad pravim referencu na brkove to činim u najpozitivnijem mogućem kontekstu. Pa nisam li i sam brkat?

Meho Krljic

Eh, da... Judas Priest najavili oproštajnu turneju, pa vi vidite:

http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=12429

crippled_avenger

Mehmete, jel idemo?
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Meho Krljic

Nažalost, sve su festivali... Hmmm...

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Meho Krljic

Ovo je više za Cripple, reaguj, Stoja je meni premlada.  :lol:

crippled_avenger

Pa dobro, ima i za tebe ova starija Stoja. Uostalom, oboje ste muzičari po vokaciji.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Father Jape

Nego, jel ima neko da mi uskoci za kartu do Filadelfije? Vracam cim se zaposlim.
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Meho Krljic

Nisan siguran da možeš da dobješ severnoameričku vizu za tri dana. Ali rado ću ti narezati neki pornić sa Stojom (mlađom) ili CD sa muzikom (ove starije).

crippled_avenger

A model named Michael "Shagg" Washington is suing Rockstar Games and Take-Two Interactive Software for a cool $250 million for allegedly basing the lead character in the game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas on his troubled youth.

According to the complaint, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, Washington is a model and back-up singer with rap group Cypress Hill, and met with game developers for two hours to answer questions on "his street life including how the teen-agers in his gang rode around on bicycles."

He says that he was told by the game developers that if they chose to use him in the game, he would be notified. He wasn't.

Instead, he was shocked to see that the lead character of "CJ" looked like him. He now claims his life story was stolen in a new lawsuit that claims 25% of profits from the billion dollar game. According to some websites, he is listed on the game's credits.

These days, video game reviewers talk about characters and plot, but game publishers rarely run disclaimers as they do in the film world that "Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental." Perhaps they should.
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Meho Krljic

Prvo, čovek stvarno jeste naveden u kreditsima:

http://de.gta.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_San_Andreas_Credits

Skrolujte do "Models" i naći ćete ga.

Drugo, Rokstarove igre UVEK imaju disklejmer o "any similarity" na početku, pa mi je skoro neverovatno da San Andreas nema. A mrzi me sad da ga da prostite vadim iz ormana i mećem u Plejstejšn da bih proverio. Na ovom klipu tog disklejmera nema

GTA San Andreas Opening Intro

ali ne znači da ga nema u igri.

Meho Krljic

Naravno, pravo pitanje je šta je čovek ovoliko čekao. San Andreas je ipak izašao pre šest godina.

Meho Krljic

I da ne bude zabune, ja mislim da je sasvim za pozdraviti kada mali čovek nastoji da od bezdušne velike firme otme koji dinar, ali ovo miriše po klasičnom golddiggingu.

crippled_avenger

Ja isto mislim, neverovatno je da se tako kasno setio...
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