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Best Paranormal Fantasy Novels of the Last Decade (2000 - 2009)


1. Dead Witch Walking (2004) by Kim Harrison – Kim's debut novel and first installment of her wildly entertaining Rachel Morgan saga, a series that – like its witchy protagionist – has developed and matured with every new installment. Unlike most series, every new novel in Kim's Rachel Morgan series is better than the last.... This is the beginning of a classic saga.


2. A Kiss of Shadows (2000) by Laurell K. Hamilton - LKH's first Merry Gentry novel and easily one of the most anticipated releases of the last decade....


3. Storm Front (2000) by Jim Butcher - the beginning of Jim's Dresden Files series, a genre hybridizing series that further opened the doors for sagas like Charlie Huston's Joe Pitt, Mario Acevedo's Felix Gomez, etc. Historically significant on numerous levels...


4. Obsidian Butterfly (2000) by Laurell K. Hamilton - LKH'S first Anita Blake novel to be released in hardcover, this is when LKH (and Anita) became truly iconic. A blockbuster release that had readers talking for years – and they're still talking....


5. Four and Twenty Blackbirds (2005) by Cherie Priest - Cherie's debut and first of her Eden Moore novels. This haunting and poetic read marked the fledgling steps of a writer who has become one of the most innovative – and significant – writers in the genre.


6. Already Dead (2005) by Charlie Huston - Charlie's first novel featuring vampire Joe Pitt, a series that continues to expand and redefine paranormal fantasy. I described this novel thusly: "The vampire mythos gets a healthy dose of attitude a la Raymond Chandler in Charlie Huston's singularly cool Already Dead, a savage and sardonic novel that blends blood-sucking fantasy and horror elements with the hard-boiled style of noir thrillers."


7. A Rush of Wings (2008) by Adrian Phoenix - Adrian's debut novel and first installment of her Maker's Song saga, one of the edgiest series out there. I mean, c'mon! How can you go wrong with a duo that includes an undead rock star and a sexy FBI agent? FYI: rumors are that Disney is looking into buying the rights to these novels for a possible movie!


8. Dead Until Dark (2001) by Charlaine Harris - the first book in Charlaine's Sookie Stackhouse series. True Blood, say no more.

9. The Nymphos of Rocky Flats (2006) by Mario Acevedo - Mario's debut novel and first book in his Felix Gomez saga, like Huston's Joe Pitt saga, a series that is redefining the genre. And talk about great opening lines: "I don't like what Operation Iraqi Freedom has done to me. I went to the war a soldier; I came back a vampire..."


10. Moon Called (2006) by Patricia Briggs - the first Mercy Thompson novel, a series that has become arguably one of the most beloved sagas ever.Like Kim Harrison's Rachel Morgan saga, Patricia's Mercy Thompson novels just seem to get better and better. A sexy, tattooed shapeshifting auto mechanic, Mercy is one of the most memorable paranormal fantasy heroines out there right now...


11. Sandman Slim (2009) by Richard Kadrey – an in-your-face fusion of fantasy, horror, and hard-boiled mystery. Kadrey's biting wit that makes this novel so unforgettable. His blunt and acerbic writing style makes for simply addictive reading. Here's how he describes Los Angeles: "L.A. is what happens when a bunch of Lovecraftian elder gods and porn starlets spend a weekend locked up in the Chateau Marmont snorting lines of crank off Jim Morrison's bones. If the Viagra and illegal Traci Lords videos don't get you going, then the Japanese tentacle porn will."


12. Vanished (2009) by Kat Richardson - Kat's latest Greywalker novel and easily her strongest work to date.


13. The Scent of Shadows (2007) by Vicki Pettersson – the first novel in Vicki's Signs of the Zodiac series

Samo, zar se ovo ne zove Romance a ne Fantasy???

Supernatural Romance.

Locus ga je uvrstio u svoj pregled kao "Paranormal romances"

Pretpostavljam da sam ja "znaš već ko"? Odavde nisam čitao Adrijana Finiksa, pa tu nemam šta da kažem, ali zato imam mnogo toga da kažem glede Viki Petersson - i to sve loše. U iskušenju sam da pretpostavim da autor nije znao koga da stavi na trinaesto mesto, a bilo mu je kul da ima trinaest stavki na spisku. Po istom merilu, ni Ket Ričardson nema šta da traži ovde. Znatno je bolja od Personove, ali i dalje nije najbolja u žanru. S treće strane, Džim Bučer i Čarli Hjusto pogrešno su ovde svrstani. Njihovi romani spadaju u Urban Fantasy a ne Paranormal Romace. Imalo bi smisla da se tu nađu samo ako bi spisak bio sinteza ova dva podžanra. U tom slučaju tu svakako moraju da se nađu i Carrie Vaughn, Rachel Caine (koju ne volim), C. E. Murphy i bar Mark Del Franco i Rob Thurman.

Hteo sam nesto pametno da kazem al' sam zaboravio. U svakom slucaju, bio je red da i ovaj podforum dobije "reaguj" topik. Sto se ovih romana tice, o tome niti pojma imam nit' ih u ruke uzimam (da mi ne bi ruka otpanula) ali posto sebe smatram covekom otvorenih nazora hteo sam da nekom (bilo kom) dam priliku da argumentuje zasto bi ove knjige trebalo citati, a ova - cak i meni je delovala proizvoljna- lista samo mi je licila na dobar pocetak.

Pa... Mogu neke od ovih knjiga da budu zabavne za čitanje. Postanu čak i neka vrsta zaraze. Samo što nakon izvesnog vremena poželiš da provrištiš i/ili ujedaš, ili osećaš kako ti se mozak pretvara u takvu bljuzgavicu da u poređenju s tim i zombi deluje kao suvi genije.

Prelepo rečeno

Ričard Kedri i Čarli Hjuston ovde nemaju šta da traže. Hjustonov protagonista je vampir sitni kriminalac, zaljubljen u devojku koja ima HIV. Romani su mu skroz palp noar - prilično zabavni. Poslednji nisam čitao. Ali ako je tema bila namenjena meni, moram priznati da je uvodni post malčice promašen. Jeste da čitam na tone urbane fantastike i paranormalne romantike, ali moja najveća ljubav je high fantasy.

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E da sam imao ovo kad sam pisao drugi tekst za "Zabavnik"...

Napisi i treci 

RITAs and Golden Hearts Finalists


The romance industry appears to suffer from serious category bloat as far as awards go. The Romance Writers of America have announced the finalists for the RITA Awards (for published books) and Golden Heart Awards (for unpublished books). Neither set of award has a specific SF&F category, though both have one for paranormal romance. Here are the RITA finalists in that group.

    * What Would Jane Austen Do?, Laurie Brown (Casablanca)
    * My Forbidden Desire, Carolyn Jewel (Forever)
    * For the Earl's Pleasure, Anne Mallory (Avon)
    * Darkness Unknown, Alexis Morgan (Pocket Star)

In addition, there are two urban fantasy novels on the Best First Novel list. They are:

    * The Better Part of Darkness, Kelly Gay (Pocket)
    * Angel Vindicated, Viola Estrella (Cerridwen Press)

#    Series                    Books    Pages
1     Conan's Journeys    78 books    20549 pages
2     Discworld    38 books    13674 pages
3     Gor    28 books    13050 pages
4     The Riftwar Cycle    26 books    11873 pages
5     Wheel of Time    14 books    11362 pages
6     Xanth    33 books    11480 pages
7     Valdemar    26 books    10592 pages
8     Saga of Recluce    16 books    9696 pages
9     Malazan Book of the Fallen    10 books    8981 pages
10    Dragonriders of Pern    24 books    8980 pages
11    Shannara Universe    20 books    8976 pages
12    Sword of Truth    12 books    8784 pages
13    Anita Blake Vampire Hunter    19 books    8192 pages
14    Redwall    21 books    8081 pages
15    The Three Worlds Cycle    11 books    7926 pages
16    Realm of the Elderlings    11 books    7749 pages
17    The Legend of Drizzt    20 books    7243 pages
18    Deverry Cycle    15 books    6912 pages
19    Wars of Light and Shadow    9 books    6281 pages
20    Kushiel's Legacy    8 books    6192 pages
21    The Dresden Files    14 books    5771 pages
22    Witch World    24 books    5757 pages
23    Crown of Stars    7 books    5264 pages
24    Books of the Orokon    10 books    5019 pages
25    The Complete Chronicles of Thomas Covenant    10 books    4948 pages
26    Lord of the Isles    9 books    4808 pages
27    The Sun Sword    6 books    4704 pages
28    Chronicles of an Age of Darkness    10 books    4646 pages
29    Tarzan    25 books    4563 pages
30    MythAdventures    19 books    4414 pages
31    The Hollows    9 books    4410 pages
32    Deryni    15 books    4352 pages
33    The Dark Tower    7 books    4341 pages
34    Oz    14 books    4277 pages
35    Solar Cycle    12 books    4252 pages
36    Belgariad/Mallorean    10 books    4224 pages
37    A Song of Ice and Fire    4 books    4195 pages
38    Drenai    11 books    4191 pages
39    Harry Potter    7 books    4136 pages
40    Corean Chronicles    7 books    4030 pages
41    The Realms of the Blood    9 books    4016 pages
42    Avalon    8 books    4000 pages
43    The Last of the Renshai    6 books    3960 pages
44    Earth's Children    5 books    3952 pages
45    Dragon Knight    9 books    3944 pages
46    Wayfarer Redemption Series    6 books    3840 pages
47    Symphony of Ages    6 books    3760 pages
48    Saga of the Noble Dead    8 books    3728 pages
49    Sunrunners world    6 books    3672 pages
50    Last Rune    6 books    3632 pages
51    Chronicles of the Black Company    9 books    3478 pages
52    Chronicles and Legends of the Raven    7 books    3430 pages
53    The Runelords    7 books    3347 pages
54    Codex Alera    6 books    3312 pages
55    Guardians of Ga'hoole    15 books    3227 pages
56    The Death Gate Cycle    7 books    3168 pages
57    Chronicles of Amber    14 books    3155 pages
58    Chronicles of the Cheysuli    8 books    3120 pages
59    Guardians of the Flame    10 books    3051 pages
60    Fortress    5 books    2944 pages
61    Majipoor    6 books    2941 pages
62    The Chronicles of Elantra    6 books    2867 pages
63    The Pendragon Cycle    6 books    2736 pages
64    The Winter of the World    6 books    2736 pages
65    Guardian Cycle    5 books    2711 pages
66    House of Night    8 books    2704 pages
67    Memory, Sorrow and Thorn    3 books    2672 pages
68    The Banned and the Banished    5 books    2668 pages
69    Dragaera: Vlad Taltos    12 books    2634 pages
70    Einarinn    5 books    2623 pages
71    Sword of Shadows    4 books    2600 pages
72    Shadows of the Apt    5 books    2565 pages
73    Ixia/Sitia    6 books    2544 pages
74    The Elemental Masters Series    6 books    2537 pages
75    Paksennarion's World    6 books    2521 pages
76    Nightrunner    5 books    2512 pages
77    Chronicles of the Kencyrath    5 books    2479 pages
78    Tiger and Del    6 books    2460 pages
79    The Demon Wars Saga    4 books    2268 pages
80    Temeraire    6 books    2262 pages
81    Ryhope Wood    7 books    2261 pages
82    The Second Apocalypse    4 books    2240 pages
83    The Chronicles of Westria    8 books    2214 pages
84    The Lord of the Rings    5 books    2144 pages
85    Twilight Reign    4 books    2144 pages
86    The Magic Kingdom of Landover    6 books    2096 pages
87    Tales of the Five Hundred Kingdoms    5 books    2064 pages
88    Tales of Alvin Maker    6 books    2038 pages
89    World of Tiers    7 books    1933 pages
90    The World of the Alfar    6 books    1864 pages
91    Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser    8 books    1863 pages
92    The Earthsea Cycle    6 books    1436 pages

jos kada bih mogao sve ovo da stavim u neku lepu tabelu...

Auuu... Jao, pa ja sam većinu toga pročitao!!! I have no fracking life!11!!

I molio bih Zakka da promeni naziv temi u Nightfliere, reaguj!, kad je već namenjena meni.

Melkore da odseče listu na 91 mestu ostadoh bez ijednog kompletno pročitanog ciklusa.

jebote... Pern 24 knjige!
Kad je Kovenant narastao na 10 knjiga?
Kakav užas...

Quote from: Mica Milovanovic on 19-01-2011, 01:55:08
Melkore da odseče listu na 91 mestu ostadoh bez ijednog kompletno pročitanog ciklusa.

Sta, za sve ove godine nisi procitao Tarzana?

Mislim da je ovde crno na belo dokazano da je Dzordan najveca cigla od svih cigli... A, sto je najbolje, imam jedva jedan vise serijal od Mice, i to pislljiv, samo 3 knjige(to sto mi fali jos poneka knjiga da kompletiram jos neki neprimetno cu gurnuti pod tepih).

Ček malo, Melkore. Igrao sam se malo sa migrenom, pa još nisam najbistriji - je li ovo spisak serijala koji si pročitao, ili nešto drugo? Ako nije, šta je i odakle je?

Dacu ti par hintova, pa ti vidi da li sam to citao: 

Dragonriders of Pern, Shannara Universe, Anita Blake Vampire Hunter, Harry Potter....

jedan i po Pern i one 3 Sanare iz Plave Ptice, dosta od mene, ove ostale ne bih citao ni da mi plate..khm, dobro, da mi plate mozda bih i procitao, ali bi se bas mnogo cenjkao

http://walkintomordor.com/the-longest-fantasy-series-and-why-we-read-them

Ha, sad sam video i ovo, sa istog mesta:

#    Series            Author(s)    Books    Pages
1    Perry Rhodan    Many    2573    164672
2    Deathlands    James Axler    84    29408
3    Darkover    Marion Zimmer Bradley    38    13055
4    Gor    John Norman    28    13050
5    Robot/Empire/Foundation    Isaac Asimov et al.    29    11136
6    Alliance-Union    C. J. Cherryh    29    9533
7    Dune    Frank Herbert and Brian Herbert    15    8771
8    Known Space    Larry Niven et al.    26    8236
9    Wild Cards    George R. R. Martin et al.    20    8078
10    John Grimes    A. Bertram Chandler    23    7481
11    The New Jedi Order    Many    19    7266
12    Assiti Shards    Eric Flint    12    7218
13    Honor Harrington    David Weber    12    7176
14    Timeline-191    Harry Turtledove    11    6837
15    The Horus Heresy    Many    15    6321
16    Legacy of the Aldenata    John Ringo    12    6174
17    Bolos    Keith Laumer    15    5951
18    Berserker    Fred Saberhagen    17    5766
19    Vorkosigan    Lois McMaster Bujold    14    5376
20    Skolian Empire    Catherine Asaro    13    5344
21    Chung Kuo    David Wingrove    8    5258
22    Colonization/Worldwar    Harry Turtledove    8    4800
23    Foreigner    C. J. Cherryh    11    4740
24    Saga of Seven Suns    Kevin J. Anderson    8    4608
25    Deathstalker    Simon R. Green    11    4486
26    Liaden Universe Novels    Sharon Lee    12    4343
27    The Company    Kage Baker    14    4324
28    Night's Dawn    Peter F. Hamilton    4    4322
29    Retief    Keith Laumer    18    4317
30    Childe Cycle    Gordon R. Dickson    11    4270
31    Solar Cycle    Gene Wolfe    12    4252
32    Mission Earth    L. Ron Hubbard    10    4235
33    Xeelee Sequence    Stephen Baxter    10    4233
34    Gaunt's Ghosts    Dan Abnett    12    4160
35    Revelation Space    Alastair Reynolds    7    3960
36    Pip and Flinx    Alan Dean Foster    14    3888
37    Polity: Universe    Neal Asher    9    3881
38    RCN    David Drake    8    3720
39    Saga of the Exiles + Galactic Milieu    Julian May    8    3707
40    The Baroque Cycle    Neal Stephenson    8    3648
41    Seafort Saga    David Feintuch    7    3536
42    Uplift Saga    David Brin    6    3456
43    Otherland    Tad Williams    4    3352
44    Sector General    James White    14    3339
45    Well of Souls    Jack L. Chalker    10    3337
46    The Culture    Iain M. Banks    8    3300
47    The Serrano Legacy    Elizabeth Moon    7    3136
48    Chris Godfrey    Hugh Walters    19    3075
49    Kris Longknife    Mike Shepherd    8    2938
50    Foundation    Isaac Asimov    7    2881
51    Requiem for Homo Sapiens    David Zindell    4    2852
52    Alien Nation    Alan Dean Foster    9    2797
53    Rama Universe    Arthur C. Clarke    6    2783
54    Viagens Interplanetarias    L. Sprague De Camp    12    2697
55    Retrieval Artist    Kristine Kathryn Rusch    7    2688
56    Hainish Cycle    Ursula K. Le Guin    10    2669
57    Ciaphas Cain    Sandy Mitchell    7    2653
58    Gap Series    Stephen R. Donaldson    5    2652
59    Marq'ssan Cycle    L. Timmel Duchamp    5    2632
60    Hammer's Slammers    David Drake    10    2612
61    Empire of Man    David Weber    4    2465
62    Firestar    Michael Flynn    4    2411
63    Time-travelling Oxford historians    Connie Willis    5    2364
64    Hyperion Cantos    Dan Simmons    4    2305
65    Amtrak Wars    Patrick Tilley    6    2283
66    Ender's Game    Orson Scott Card    6    2272
67    Eight Worlds    John Varley    6    2174
68    Sime/Gen    Jacqueline Lichtenberg    9    2153
69    Inquisitor (Eisenhorn + Ravenor)    Dan Abnett    6    2144
70    The Stainless Steel Rat    Harry Harrison    10    2131
71    Under Jurisdiction    Susan R. Matthews    6    2102
72    Hainish Cycle    Ursula K. Le Guin    8    2094
73    Void Trilogy    Peter F. Hamilton    3    2080
74    Ultramarines    Graham McNeill    6    2080
75    Vatta's War    Elizabeth Moon    5    2064
76    The Heechee Saga    Frederik Pohl    6    2021
77    Mars Trilogy    Kim Stanley Robinson    3    2016
78    Barsoom series    Edgar Rice Burroughs    11    2008
79    The War Against the Chtorr    David Gerrold    4    1937
80    The Lost Fleet    Jack Campbell    6    1920
81    Homecoming Saga    Orson Scott Card    5    1900
82    Dragonback    Timothy Zahn    6    1872
83    Galactic Center    Gregory Benford    6    1865
84    Dark Wing    Walter H. Hunt    4    1856
85    Giants    James P. Hogan    5    1847
86    Lensman    E. E. "Doc" Smith    7    1792
87    Bold As Love    Gwyneth Jones    5    1768
88    The Family d'Alembert    E. E. "Doc" Smith    10    1755
89    Phule's Company    Robert Asprin    6    1705
90    Fleet    David Drake    6    1704
91    Tour of the Merrimack    R. M. Meluch    4    1584
92    Captain Future    Edmond Hamilton and Brett Sterling    10    1563
93    Heritage Universe    Charles Sheffield    5    1537
94    Helliconia Trilogy    Brian W. Aldiss    3    1536
95    Plenty    Colin Greenland    3    1504
96    Quantum Gravity    Justina Robson    4    1493
97    Old Man's War    John Scalzi    5    1476
98    Destination: Void    Frank Herbert    4    1460
99    Frank Compton    Timothy Zahn    4    1456
100    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy    Douglas Adams and Eoin Colfer    6    1440
101    Canopus in Argos: Archives    Doris Lessing    5    1392
102    The Eon Series    Greg Bear    3    1376
103    The Federation of the Hub    James H. Schmitz    6    1337
104    Space Odyssey    Arthur C. Clarke    4    1248
105    Del Whitby    John Morressy    6    1206
106    Three Californias    Kim Stanley Robinson    3    1120
107    Cobra    Timothy Zahn    3    1099

Mico, kako stojis sa ovom listom?

Ne mnogo bolje. Klark, Pol, Simons. Verovatno i Ursula, ali nisam sto posto siguran da sam baš sve pročitao... Veći deo Asimova.  Ponešto u delovima - prve knjige serijala, koje imaju nekog smisla...

U suštini, kad bolje razmislim, čitav život sam preferirao kraće forme.
Po meni je novela forma koja SF-u možda najbolje paše.

Čekaj Melkore hoćeš da kažeš da od svih ovih knjiga koje poseduješ nisi makar pola pročitao 
4     The Riftwar Cycle    26 books    11873 pages
5     Wheel of Time    14 books    11362 pages
8     Saga of Recluce    16 books    9696 pages
9     Malazan Book of the Fallen    10 books    8981 pages
12    Sword of Truth    12 books    8784 pages
19    Wars of Light and Shadow    9 books    6281 pages
25    The Complete Chronicles of Thomas Covenant    10 books    4948 pages
36    Belgariad/Mallorean    10 books    4224 pages
38    Drenai    11 books    4191 pages
52    Chronicles and Legends of the Raven    7 books    3430 pages
53    The Runelords    7 books    3347 pages
57    Chronicles of Amber    14 books    3155 pages
61    Majipoor    6 books    2941 pages
67    Memory, Sorrow and Thorn    3 books    2672 pages
71    Sword of Shadows    4 books    2600 pages
80    Temeraire    6 books    2262 pages
84    The Lord of the Rings    5 books    2144 pages
88    Tales of Alvin Maker    6 books    2038 pages
92    The Earthsea Cycle    6 books    1436 pages

a siguran sam da ima toga što još nisam uzimao 

Na prvi pogled, pročitao sam većinu sa oba spiska, dok neke serijale nisam završio. Takođe, od onoga što jesam pročitao, većinu sam čitao bar nekoliko puta. Melkore, baš si me zainteresovao sa ovim. Videću da tokom dana povadim šta sam sve čitao u zaseban spisak.

Dajte ljudi malo ozbiljnosti, pa ovde ima 500000 strana, 2 minuta za stranu čitanja, 3 sata svaki dan, to je 15 godina...

Quote from: Boban on 19-01-2011, 11:36:57
Dajte ljudi malo ozbiljnosti, pa ovde ima 500000 strana, 2 minuta za stranu čitanja, 3 sata svaki dan, to je 15 godina...

Ko još čita stranicu za 2 minuta?

Quote from: Boban on 19-01-2011, 11:36:57
Dajte ljudi malo ozbiljnosti, pa ovde ima 500000 strana, 2 minuta za stranu čitanja, 3 sata svaki dan, to je 15 godina...

e. da. to. to i mene zanima, ta paralelna vremenska dimenzija kod poklonika serijala.

Quote from: smrklja on 19-01-2011, 09:37:06
Čekaj Melkore hoćeš da kažeš da od svih ovih knjiga koje poseduješ nisi makar pola pročitao 

Pa nisam pola, al' sam blizu

Quote from: Lidija on 19-01-2011, 11:43:40

Quote from: Boban on 19-01-2011, 11:36:57
Dajte ljudi malo ozbiljnosti, pa ovde ima 500000 strana, 2 minuta za stranu čitanja, 3 sata svaki dan, to je 15 godina...

e. da. to. to i mene zanima, ta paralelna vremenska dimenzija kod poklonika serijala.

Pa, do pre jedno dve godine nije postojala knjiga koju sam čitao duže od jednog dana. Prosečnog Martina sam čitao za nekih osam sati, ako se dobro sećam. Sa druge strane, ove godine mi je u jednom trenutku bilo potrebno dve nedelje za 1000 stranica.

Knjiga za 8 sati...? Ljudi moji! Pa, ja to ne mogu. Ni pod razno. Jes' da imam (sitno dvocifren) broj knjiga pročitanih u jednom danu (i to kao kredit iz rane mladosti, kad se moglo), ali sve su to bile... relativno šlank knjige. Sad mi puna šaka brade ako sjurim više od 4 knjige mesečno.  

Quote from: Lidija on 19-01-2011, 21:47:33
Knjiga za 8 sati...?

Nije to ništa!


http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2010&mm=08&dd=25&nav_id=454045

Po ovima je i Nightflierovo citanje Martina za 8 sati prosecno Odbijam da verujem da se takvim citanjem moze videti bilo sta sem da li su se uzeli na kraju.

Quote from: Melkor on 19-01-2011, 22:27:17
Po ovima je i Nightflierovo citanje Martina za 8 sati prosecno Odbijam da verujem da se takvim citanjem moze videti bilo sta sem da li su se uzeli na kraju.

Propuštaš da primetiš da sam prošle godine roman sličnog obima čitao dve nedelje.

Ne znam koliko brzo citam, mislim, nikada nisam merio, neke knjige se citaju brze, neke sporije, znam samo da sam na nekim kvizovima ispadao pametniji posto bih prvi procitao pitanje i dao odgovor dok ostali jos citaju. Zavisi sta citas, kako si raspolozen, kako je vreme napolju, imas li malu decu... Prosle godine mi je prosek pao sa 6 na 4 naslova mesecno; koliko je to stranica ili reci u minuti, ko ce se tim zamajavati?

Pa to. Ti uz to imaš decu. Ovo će ispasti seksitstički, ali otkako sam se oženio, čitam u najmanju ruku dvostruko manje nego neposredno pre toga.

You mean you have a life now?

Šta znam, ja čitam dosta i brzo...Mislim da mi prosek dođe minut po stranici.

Četiri knjige mesečno! Znao sam ja da tamo u Africi niko živi ništa ne radi....
Ja sam jadnog Murakamija deljao dvaes dana, i to za praznike, a sad se plašim bilo šta da počnem...

Do sada sam se pitao zašto žene preferiraju one što ne čitaju...

Mićo, preporuka za Zombi, Džojs Kerol Outs. Sjajno. "Glad" od Hamsuna je isto ok

Hvala. Uzeo sam Zombi, ali nikako da se nakanim...

Quote from: Mica Milovanovic on 20-01-2011, 16:32:05
Četiri knjige mesečno! Znao sam ja da tamo u Africi niko živi ništa ne radi....

Istini za volju, samo odokativnih 50% je žanr zadušu, ostalo je... ostalo. 

Quote from: Mica Milovanovic on 20-01-2011, 16:53:33
Hvala. Uzeo sam Zombi, ali nikako da se nakanim...

Nemoj da žuriš...

Quote from: Gudeja on 20-01-2011, 20:16:08

Quote from: Mica Milovanovic on 20-01-2011, 16:53:33
Hvala. Uzeo sam Zombi, ali nikako da se nakanim...

Sto ljudi, sto ćudi. Meni se priča svidela, karakterizacija glavnog lika, a najviše mi se svideo stil Outsove. Smatram da čovek baš može naučiti štošta o kovanju rečenica iz ovog dela.
Nemoj da žuriš...

O Bože. Ja samo citirao. Elem, svakom svoje. Outsova je meni dobra na više nivoa: prvo, okarakterisala je glavnog lika maestralno; drugo, ima tako dobar stil pripovedanja, i tako dobro, savremeno kuje rečenice da se zaista svašta o pisanju može naučiti iz njenih...pa, rečenica.

maznuo link iz Guardiana:)

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Urban Fantasy and the Elusive Male Protagonist
Abigail Johnson

When it comes to urban fantasy, forget the famous James Brown song, "It's a Man's Man's Man's World": it's women who rule paranormal fiction. Male protagonists are about as common as tan lines on a vampire. For every one Harry Dresden there are a dozen Anita Blakes, Mercy Thompsons, and Rachel Morgans. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of male characters in urban fantasy, but usually they are seen through the eyes of a female protagonist.

There are, of course, a few brave men who have managed to squeeze into the genre and carve out a starring role for themselves. Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files series is still running strong, with a thirteenth novel featuring P.I. wizard Harry Dresden (Ghost Story) coming out in July. It even enjoyed a much-too-short lived TV show in 2007.

Given their rarity, I though we should shed some light on these often unsung Urban Fantasy male protagonists, which prompted a list on the Tor.com Urban Fantasy Facebook page and Twitter. Here are the names we came up with (...and suddenly they don't seem quite so rare, after all):

   * Storm Front (Harry Dresden) by Jim Butcher
   * Master of None (Gavyn Donatti) by Sonya Bateman
   * Sweet Silver Blues (Garrett) by Glen Cook
   * Nightlife (Cal Leandros) by Rob Thurman
   * Dead Matter (Simon Canderous) by Anton Strout
   * Dog Days (Mason) by John Levitt
   * The Vampire Files (Jack Fleming) by P. N. Elrod
   * Midnight Riot (Peter Grant) by Ben Aaronovitch
   * Death Most Definite (Steven de Selby) by Trent Jamieson
   * Blood Vice (Karl Vance) by Keith Melton
   * Unshapely Things (Connor Grey) by Mark Del Franco
   * A Kiss Before the Apocalypse (Remy Chandler) by Thomas E. Sniegoski
   * The Double-Edged Sword (Finmere Tingewick Smith) by Sarah Silverwood
   * Something from the Nightside (John Taylor) by Simon R. Green
   * Sandman Slim (James Stark) by Richard Kadrey
   * Sixty-One Nails (Niall Petersen) by Mike Shevdon
   * Second Sunrise (Lee Nez) by Aimée Thurlo, David Thurlo
   * Child of Fire (Ray Lilly) by Harry Connolly
   * The Devil You Know (Felix Castor) by Mike Carey
   * Already Dead (Joe Pitt) by Charlie Huston
   * The Nymphos of Rocky Flats (Felix Gomez) by Mario Acevedo
   * Staked (Eric Courtney) by J.F. Lewis
   * Blood Oath (Nathaniel Cade) by Christopher Farnsworth
   * Blood Prophecy (Jeremiah Fall) by Stefan Petrucha
   * Of Saints and Shadows (Peter Octavian) by Christopher Golden
   * The Kensei (Lawson) by Jon F. Merz
   * A Madness of Angels (Matthew Swift) by Kate Griffin
   * A Devil in the Details (Jesse James Dawson) by K.A. Stewart
   * The Vampire's Seduction (William Thorne) by Raven Hart

Evo šta sam čitao:

    * Storm Front (Harry Dresden) by Jim Butcher
    * Master of None (Gavyn Donatti) by Sonya Bateman
    * Sweet Silver Blues (Garrett) by Glen Cook
    * Nightlife (Cal Leandros) by Rob Thurman
    * Dead Matter (Simon Canderous) by Anton Strout
    * Dog Days (Mason) by John Levitt
    * The Vampire Files (Jack Fleming) by P. N. Elrod
    * Midnight Riot (Peter Grant) by Ben Aaronovitch
    * Death Most Definite (Steven de Selby) by Trent Jamieson
    * Blood Vice (Karl Vance) by Keith Melton
    * Unshapely Things (Connor Grey) by Mark Del Franco
    * A Kiss Before the Apocalypse (Remy Chandler) by Thomas E. Sniegoski
    * The Double-Edged Sword (Finmere Tingewick Smith) by Sarah Silverwood
    * Something from the Nightside (John Taylor) by Simon R. Green
    * Sandman Slim (James Stark) by Richard Kadrey
    * Sixty-One Nails (Niall Petersen) by Mike Shevdon
    * Second Sunrise (Lee Nez) by Aimée Thurlo, David Thurlo
    * Child of Fire (Ray Lilly) by Harry Connolly
    * The Devil You Know (Felix Castor) by Mike Carey
    * Already Dead (Joe Pitt) by Charlie Huston
    * The Nymphos of Rocky Flats (Felix Gomez) by Mario Acevedo
    * Staked (Eric Courtney) by J.F. Lewis
    * Blood Oath (Nathaniel Cade) by Christopher Farnsworth
    * Blood Prophecy (Jeremiah Fall) by Stefan Petrucha
    * Of Saints and Shadows (Peter Octavian) by Christopher Golden
    * The Kensei (Lawson) by Jon F. Merz
    * A Madness of Angels (Matthew Swift) by Kate Griffin
    * A Devil in the Details (Jesse James Dawson) by K.A. Stewart
    * The Vampire's Seduction (William Thorne) by Raven Hart

Propustili su da dodaju nekoliko protagonista iz osamdesetih godina, kada su pisci kao što su Majk Resnik i Hari Tartldvav eksperimentisali sa urbanom fantastikom, samo što se to tada nije tako zvalo, a i ti su romani prošli relativno nezapaženo. Premda sam ljubitelj ovog podžanra i pre nekoliko godia sam ga žustro zagovarao na ovom forumu, moram reći da mi je postalo mučno koliko se pretvorio u pomodarstvo. SF pisci ranga Stiva Stirlinga i Denija Ejbrahama praktično se prostituišu pisanjem romana u ovom podžanru, a pri tom ne uspevaju da postignu više nego osrednji učinak, baš stoga što su predobri kao pisci i što se vidi da tome prilaze čisto zarad dobiti - a pri tom nisam baš siguran da je ostvaruju. Činjenica je da malo muškaraca ume da oseti šta to žene, kao dominantni čitaoci urbane fantastike, žele od tih knjiga. Čak je i Džim Bučer, kao vodeće muško ime u tom podžanru, pretežno čitan od strane muškaraca. Možda je stvar u tome što čitateljke traže jakog ženskog glavnog lika po svaku cenu - i manje jakog muškog sporednog lika, opet po svaku cenu. Ne znam. Mene urbanoj fantastici privlači pre svega izuzetna maštovitost iskazana u metarmofozi fantazijskih klišea sa jedne i prepričavanju tradicionalnih bajki sa druge strane. To je Hamiltonova veoma uspešno radila u prvih devet romana o Aniti Blejk. Kada se pisci previše udalje od toga, po pravilo se to pretvori u bljuzgu tipa poluvampirka-poluvukodlakinja se spanđa sa poludemonom-poluanđelom i onda love zlog republikanskog nekromanta, koji želi da pusti kugu koja će istrebiti sve gejeve. Tja.

Quote from: Nightflier on 11-02-2011, 13:49:49Možda je stvar u tome što čitateljke traže jakog ženskog glavnog lika po svaku cenu - i manje jakog muškog sporednog lika, opet po svaku cenu.

Počeo si da uopštavaš kao Lomljavina.