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Mislim da događaji u Libiji, Egiptu, Tunisu, Jemenu, Bahreinu, zaslužuju posebnu temu.
Mnogo je pitanja. Šta su stvarni uzroci ? Nezadovoljstvo diktatorskim tiranijama, ekonomski krah, interesi stranih sila-nafta, gas, geostrateški položaj, itd... otuđenost i besmisao mladih ljudi koji su siti vlasti, možda žele i neku anarhiju ?
Šta će biti posledice ? Modernizacija, jačanje radikalnog islama, novo geostrateško preslaganje ?
U ovom trenutku na CNN možete poslušati Gadafijev govor iz Tripolija.
Ako sam dobro razumeo, on govori da su Amerikanci okupirali Bengazi, da se organizuju neki revolucionarni komiteti u odbrani... zapenio se prilično, ne deluje kao neko ko gubi vlast.

Mnogo je to pitanja za mene neukog, ali evo kao malo lektire tekstovi Boška Jakšića za Politiku u vezi sa temom. Jakšića ovde baš i ne vole, ali nema sumnje da je u pitanju čovek sa priličnim znanjem na temu bliskog istoka i islama, a i bio je na licu mesta za neke od ovih događaja:

http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Boshko-Jakshic/Miris-jasmina.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Nastavljen-dvoboj-Mubaraka-i-naroda.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Bitka-za-Egipat.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Kairo-vida-rane-rezim-najavljuje-reforme.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Kairo-vida-rane-rezim-najavljuje-reforme.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Boshko-Jakshic/Vox-populi-i-Vox-dei.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Iran-nije-Egipat-Azadi-nije-Tahrir.lt.html

http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Boshko-Jakshic/Zima-arapskog-nezadovoljstva.lt.html


Mislim, svakako nije svaka Boškova kao božija, ali ovo je više da predupredimo potpuno proizvoljno lupendranje o bliskom istoku, Arapima i islamu i muslimanima koje će ionako da usledi na ovom topiku.

Uzgred, moje potpuno proizvoljno opažanje je da islam ponovo pravi grešku koju je skupo platio pre dva veka kada je Turska krenula da se urušava jer je vladajuća elita naprosto ignorisala socijalne, političke itd. trendove u svetu u poslednjih par stotina godina. Među Arapima sada vladajuća elita jednako ignoriše socijalne i političke trendove i evo šta im se događa... Dakle, koliko god islam meni bio drag, on nije svemoćan i ne uspeva od lenjih i nečasnih ljudi da uvek napravi vredne i časne.

Hm, pa ja cenim Jakšića. Bacam se na čitanje.

Zanimljivo je ovo što se događa jer su ti režimi na severu Afrike zapravo odgovarali Amerikancima, a Mubarak je sklopio čvrst mir sa Izraelom i tu trzavica dugo nije bilo. Naravno, Imperija Zla jeste zgodno mesto na koje se uvek lepo može upirati prstom, ali ovde situacija nije baš tako jednostavna kao "šarene" revolucije koje su "spontano" iskrsavale po zemlj(ic)ama bivšeg SSSR. Naravno, ne verujem u spontanost svega ovoga, strani faktor sigurno postoji, ali moraće da prođe još neko vreme da bi se videlo koji. Nafta nije jedini motiv jer nisu sve zemlje jednako bogate njome.

Bilo kako bilo, ozbiljno krvoproliće može biti u Libiji. Plemena koja su živela u okviru države na okupu je državo Gadafi, a kako u takvim situacijama biva, nije kod svih bio jednako omiljen, ali je stabilnost postojala. Ne mogu da kažem da sam neki ekspert za arapski svet, teško da sam ekspert i za šta, ali taj narod tamo ako kola krenu nizbrdo, možda će Gadafija pamtiti sa setom.

Mada je priča o negativnoj selekciji u Srbiji odavno poznata, ali onaj mamlaz Lilić je zaista dno sveg dna. Ne samo što je, uobičajeno glup i nezainteresovan za svoj posao, zakasnio s pripremama za evakuaciju, nego se izgleda ispostavlja da srpska ambasada u Libiji zapravo nema ni približan spisak svojih građana u zemlji, a tamo živi i radi nekoliko hiljada. Ali to, naravno, ništa ne čudi, srpska demokratura je na delu uvek bila dobra kapitalu, nikad ljudima.

Ako bude slično u Saudi Arabiji i raznoraznim Kuvajtima i Emiratima, značu da tu nema američkih prstiju. Za ostale arapske revolucije mišljenja sam da je nekom dozlogrdilo da se nekoliko decenija ništa ne uzdrma. Ko veli: Ako se trese nešto će i da pa'ne.

А има ту и старе истине: ако си предуго на власти почнеш да губиш компас.

Mislim da SAD ni po koju cenu neće dozvoliti destabilizaciju Saudi Arabije. A čuju se vrlo oštri tonovi kada je Libija u pitanju. Ne spominje se još vojna intervencija, ali mislim da ni to nije isključeno.
Elem, iranski  ratni brodovi prošli su kroz kanal, da li je to znak da se menja stav arapskih zemalja prema Iranu. Izrael i Ameri po svom, o iranskim provokacijama. A one silne flote, nosači aviona, trupe po Bliskom Istoku i Centralnoj Aziji, to valjda nisu provokacije, to je širenje demokratije i slobode...

ja samo čekam da vidim šta će biti sa s. arabijom

   Ovih dana mnogi govore kako su demonstracije organizovane na zapadu. U SAD i Britaniji.

   Međutim sve više se pojavljuju oni, koji misle da ne treba otpisati hipotezu da iza svega stoji Iran.

   Postoji više dokaza za to. Glavni je taj što je Iranu sve do pre neki dan bilo zabranjeno da brodove uplovljava u Mediteran.
   Od islamske revolucije do prekjuče nijedan jedini iranski brod nije ušao u Mediteran i prekjuče čujemo da je Egipat pustio prolaz za dva broda preko Sueckog kanala.

   Koliko god da me plaši eventualno širenje tog teokratskog konzervativizama po svim arapskim zemljama (Strah je pojačaniji kad znamo koliki je natalitet u tim zemljama), toliko me u neku ruku i raduje ako će sve arapske zemlje da se ujedine u jednu teokratsku imperiju od 200 miliona ljudi, koja će biti pretnja Evropi.
   Da Evropljani, koji umišljaju da im je liberalizam najveći neprijatelj (ženska prava, sekularnost, gejevi, poliandrija, slobodna ljubav...) konačno otvore oči i shvate da od liberalizma niko nije stradao, a od konzervativne autoritarne teokratske imperije može vrlo lako.

   

Situacija i jeste zanimljiva. Realno, ovakav scenario najviše smrdi na Zapad, ali je činjenica da bi interes mogao imati i Iran, možda Rusija (mada zabrinjava činjenica da nisu isporučili S300 Iranu). Ne treba isključivati teorije da Zapad možda više nije toliko jedinstven i da promena vlasti možda ide na ruku EU, gde će Amerikanci i Englezi izvisiti. Na kraju krajeva, u severu Afrike su se vazda preplitali razni interesi i gde je Francuska (kao uostalom u velikom delu muslimanskog sveta) oduvek bila važan i snažan faktor. Ne treba zaboraviti da se u tom delu sveta uzdiže i nova (stara) sila - Turska.

Naravno, liberalizam nema nikakve veze, uobičajeno naklapanje. Suština je u vekovnom zlu zvanom (objedinjeno) Zapad. Ono što danas važi za prosperitetne države čijim "vrednostima", jelte, treba težiti zapravo su eksploatatorske sile koje su svoje bogatstvo stekle pljačkom, otimačinom, manipulacijom i na nesreći drugih. To traje i dan-danas, samo su eksploatatoske metode prefinjenije i manje očigledne, uglavnom preko lokalnih kvislinga. Zbog toga zemlje slobodnog sveta dobro znaju ili ko im je otvoreni neprijatelj ili čiju krv treba da sisaju.

A postoji i još jedna teorija.

A to je da je svaka revolucija kod Arapa drugačija.

Tako su recimo Iranci Amerima oduzeli Egipat, a Ameri se naljutili pa islamsskoj koaliciji žele da oduzmu Libiju.
I da sve tako ide unakrsno.

A možda i mi potcenjujemo tamošnje narode pa mislimo da je morao neko sa strane da ih napujda.

Možda je narod želeo smenu vladara, koji vladaju više decenija sam?

Meni je recimo smešno kad čujem neke mlade, koji kažu da je Jugoslaviju razbio neko sa strane.
Jes da sam bio dete kad se raspadala ali se sećam da su baš pojedini YU narodi jako želeli nezavisnost.
Da je Hrvati i Slovenci nisu želeli, mogle bi Nemačka, Austrija i Vatikan da ih nagovaraju decenijama ništa se ne bi postiglo.

Suviše se sve ovo brzo događa da bi bilo moguće da su inspiratori na više mesta. Isto tako, ma koliko narod želeo smenu vlasti, nikad to nije moguće ostvariti haotično, bez neke organizacije koja pruža logistiku, planiranje, regrutovanje, pripremu... Srbiji je dosta demokrature, pa je 10-10-10 ipak bio samo jedan haotičan protest. Nezadovoljstvo nije dovljno, potrebna je organizacija, a ovde vidimo organizaciju na delu u čitavom delu jednog kontinenta. Dakle, ovo nije slučajno i izvor je isti.

U svakom slučaju, Gadafi se potvrđuje kao najgori od sve dece:

Gadhafi's vow: Will fight to 'last drop of blood'

QuoteBy MAGGIE MICHAEL and SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press Maggie Michael And Sarah El Deeb, Associated Press – Tue Feb 22, 9:43 pm ET
CAIRO – A defiant Moammar Gadhafi vowed to fight to his "last drop of blood" and roared at supporters to strike back against Libyan protesters to defend his embattled regime Tuesday, signaling an escalation of the crackdown that has thrown the capital into scenes of mayhem, wild shooting and bodies in the streets.

The speech by the Libyan leader — who shouted and pounded his fists on the podium — was an all-out call for his backers to impose control over the capital and take back other cities. After a week of upheaval, protesters backed by defecting army units have claimed control over almost the entire eastern half of Libya's 1,000-mile (1,600-kilometer) Mediterranean coast, including several oil-producing areas.

"You men and women who love Gadhafi ... get out of your homes and fill the streets," he said. "Leave your homes and attack them in their lairs."

Celebratory gunfire by Gadhafi supporters rang out in the capital of Tripoli after the leader's speech, while in protester-held Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city, people threw shoes at a screen showing his address, venting their contempt.

State TV showed a crowd of Gadhafi supporters in Tripoli's Green Square, raising his portrait and waving flags as they swayed to music after the address. Residents contacted by The Associated Press said no anti-government protesters ventured out of their homes after dark, and gun-toting guards manned checkpoints with occasional bursts of gunfire heard throughout the city.

International alarm rose over the crisis, which sent oil prices soaring to the highest level in more than two years on Tuesday and sparked a scramble by European and other countries to get their citizens out of the North African nation. The U.N. Security Council held an emergency meeting that ended with a statement condemning the crackdown, expressing "grave concern" and calling for an "immediate end to the violence" and steps to address the legitimate demands of the Libyan people.

Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel called Gadhafi's speech "very, very appalling," saying it "amounted to him declaring war on his own people." Libya's own deputy ambassador at the U.N., who now calls for Gadhafi's ouster, has urged the world body to enforce a no-fly zone over the country to protect protesters.

"This violence is completely unacceptable," added Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Gadhafi's retaliation has already been the harshest in the Arab world to the wave of anti-government protests sweeping the Middle East. Nearly 300 people have been killed, according to a partial count by the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

In two nights of bloodshed, Tripoli residents described a rampage by pro-Gadhafi militiamen — a mix of Libyans and foreign mercenaries — who shot on sight anyone found in the streets and opened fire from speeding vehicles at people watching from windows of their homes.

In a sign of the extent of the breakdown in Gadhafi's regime, one of his closest associates, Abdel Fattah Younis, his interior minister and commander of the powerful Thunderbolt commando brigade, announced in Benghazi that he was defecting and other armed forces should join the revolt.

"I gave up all my posts in response to the February 17 Revolution and my conviction that it has just demands," Younis, who was among the army officers who joined Gadhafi in his 1969 coup, told Al-Jazeera, referring to the date of the start of the protests.

The performance by Gadhafi on state TV Tuesday night went far beyond even the bizarre, volatile style he has been notorious for during nearly 42 years in power. Swathed in brown robes and a turban, wearing reflective sunglasses, he at times screamed, his voice breaking, and shook his fists — then switched to reading glasses to read from a green-covered law book, losing his train of thought before launching into a new round of shouting.

He spoke from behind a podium in the entrance of his bombed-out Tripoli residence hit by U.S. airstrikes in the 1980s and left unrepaired as a symbol of defiance.

At times the camera panned back to show the outside of the building and its towering monument of a gold-colored fist crushing an American fighter jet. But the view also gave a bizarre image of Gadhafi, waving his arms wildly alone in a broken-down lobby with no audience, surrounded by torn tiles dangling from the ceiling, shattered concrete pillars and bare plumbing pipes.

"Libya wants glory, Libya wants to be at the pinnacle, at the pinnacle of the world," he proclaimed, pounding his fist on the podium. "I am a fighter, a revolutionary from tents. ... I will die as a martyr at the end," he said, vowing to fight "to my last drop of blood."

Gadhafi portrayed the protesters as misguided youths, who had been given drugs and money by a "small, sick group" to attack police and government buildings. He said the uprising was fomented by "bearded men" — a reference to Islamic fundamentalists — and Libyans living abroad.

He urged supporters to take to the streets to attack demonstrators, saying police would not interfere.

"Go out and fight them," he added, urging youth to form local committees across the country "for the defense of the revolution and the defense of Gadhafi."

"Forward, forward, forward!" he barked at the speech's conclusion, pumping both fists in the air as he stormed away from the podium. He was kissed by about a dozen supporters, some in security force uniforms. Then he climbed into a golf cart-like vehicle and puttered away.

In New York, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador Ibrahim Dabbashi, who has called for Gadhafi to step down, said he had received information that Gadhafi's collaborators have started "attacking people in all the cities in western Libya." He said those being attacked are unarmed. He said Gadhafi was using foreign mercenaries to fight protesters.

"I think the genocide has started now in Libya," Dabbashi said. "The Gadhafi statement was just code for his collaborators to start the genocide against the Libyan people. It just started a few hours ago. I hope the information I get is not accurate but if it is, it will be a real genocide."

Libyans were critical of what they saw as the lack of a forceful international response.

Dabbashi said the Security Council statement was "not strong enough" but was "a good step to stopping the bloodshed."

Gadhafi's call for a popular attack on protesters reflected the deeply unstable nature of the system he has created over his rule — the longest of any current Arab leader. He has long kept his military and other security forces relatively weak, fearing a challenge to his rule and uncertain of loyalties in a population of multiple tribal allegiances.

So far, the crackdown has been waged chiefly by militias and so-called "revolutionary committees," made up of Libyans and foreign fighters, many hired from other African nations.

Many army units in the east appear to have sided with protesters, and other more institutional parts of his regime have weakened. A string of ambassadors abroad have defected, as has the justice minister.

Protesters claim to control a string of cities, from the Egyptian border in the east — where guards at the crossing fled — to the city of Ajdabiya, about 450 miles (725 kilometers) farther west along the Mediterranean coast, said Tawfiq al-Shahbi, a protest organizer in the eastern city of Tobruk.

Ajdabiya is a key city near the oil fields of central and eastern Libya. Protesters and local tribesmen were protecting several of the fields and facilities around the city, said one resident, Ahmed al-Zawi.

Residents are also guarding one of Libya's main oil export ports, Zuweita, and the pipelines feeding into it, he said. The pipelines are off and several tankers that had been waiting in the port to load left empty, said al-Zawi, who said he visited Zuweita on Tuesday morning.

The first major protests to hit an OPEC country — and major supplier to Europe — sent oil prices to $95.42 per barrel. Only a small amount of Libya's oil production appeared to have been affected, though analysts fear that revolts will spread to OPEC heavyweights like Iran. Libya holds the most oil reserves in Africa.

Two oil companies on Tuesday suspended production in the country: Italy's Eni — the biggest energy producer in Libya, producing about a quarter of its exports — and Spain's Repsol-YPF, which produced 34,777 barrels in the country last year, about 3.8 percent of national output. A string of international oil companies have begun evacuating their expatriate workers or their families.

In the eastern cities of Tobruk and Benghazi, protesters raised the pre-Gadhafi flag of Libya's monarchy on public buildings. Protesters over the weekend overran police stations and security headquarters in Benghazi, taking control of the streets.

In Benghazi, celebratory residents organized themselves into units to protect property and manage traffic after pro-Gadhafi forces fled, said Farag al-Warfali, a banker. A committee was set up to organize and distribute the use of weapons confiscated from government warehouses, recruiting policemen and officers to carry the weapons for city protection, fearing a new attack.

"These are his dying words. He is a criminal and is ready to do anything. But we are ready for him," al-Warfali said of Gadhafi's speech. "Besides, most of his officers have deserted him anyway. He only has the mercenaries left."

Since Sunday, the fiercest fighting has been in Tripoli, the center of Gadhafi's rule.

At least 62 people were killed in violence in the capital since Sunday, according to the New York-based Human Rights Watch, but it cautioned that that figure came from only two hospitals. That comes on top of at least 233 people killed across the so far in the uprising, counted by the group from hospitals around the country.

Tripoli residents on Tuesday were recovering from the militia rampage through multiple neighborhoods that began the night before and lasted until dawn. Some resident ventured out to find stores open for food, wary of militia attacks.

One man in his 50s said residents of his neighborhood were piling up roadblocks of concrete, bricks and wood to try to slow attackers. He said he had seen several streets with funeral tents mourning the dead.

The night before, he had spent barricaded in his home, blankets over the windows — sitting with a kitchen knife on the table in front of him — as militiamen opened fire in nearby districts.

Buses unloaded militia fighters in several locations, he said. Others sped in vehicles with guns mounted on the top, opening fire, including at people watching from windows. "I know of two different families, one family had a 4-year-old who was shot and killed on a balcony in the eastern part of the city, and another lady on the balcony was shot in the head," he said.

He, like other residents, contacted by The Associated Press, spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

One of the heaviest battlegrounds was the impoverished, densely populated district of Fashloum. There, militiamen shot any "moving human being" with live ammunition, including ambulances, so wounded were left in the streets to die, one resident said.

He said that as he fled the neighborhood Monday night, he ran across a group of militiamen, including foreign fighters. "The Libyans (among them) warned me to leave and showed me bodies of the dead and told me: `We were given orders to shoot anybody who moves in the place,'" said the resident.

He and other residents described dozens of bodies still in the street at daybreak Tuesday.

The head of the U.N. human rights agency, Navi Pillay, called for an investigation, saying widespread and systematic attacks against civilians "may amount to crimes against humanity."

In the early hours of Wednesday, several Libyan military officers held a news conference with Libyan journalists broadcast on state television in what they described as an effort to set the record straight on a number of issues.

Lt. General Jibril al-Qadiki, an air force pilot, denied reports of airstrikes on civilians and said there had been strikes but only on ammunition warehouses after "rebels" used them. He named four storage area in eastern Libya in desert areas, and insisted there were no people in those areas.

He also accused western countries, including the U.S., of providing logistics to the protesters aiming to "destroy Libya."

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Associated Press writers Hamza Hendawi in Cairo; Edith M. Lederer at the United Nations; Colleen Barry in Milan, Italy; Matthew Lee in Washington; John Heilprin in Geneva; and Barbara Whitaker in New York contributed to this report.

E, sad, kad bacimo pola u vodu na ime pristrasnog Asošiejtid Presovog izveštavanja, ostaje i dalje taj prizor Gadafija koji peni u polusrušenoj zgradi, bez publike i podstiče građane da napadaju jedni druge. Ponovo se sa setom prisećamo Miloševića i njegovog urnebesno-potresnog govora o jednom nacionalnom jelu, jednom nacionalnom plesu itd. U Africi se ipak igra sa skupljim čipovima...

Glede nafte, s obzirom na sve što se događa, cena skače što svakako prija određenim strukturama. Iz gorecitiranog teksta vidimo koje su kompanije već obustavile rad u Libiji (privremeno, svakako) i sad, dolazimo do onoga o čemu već tako dugo pričamo: Arapi, avaj, i pored 1300 godina islama i nekoliko vekova izvanredne socijalne evolucije u kojoj su bili ispred srednjevekovne Evrope, na kraju ipak ispadaju nedozrela balavurdija kojoj se posrećilo da je u poslednjih stotinak godina crna, smrdljiva tečnost na kojoj sede postala strateška sirovina, ali oni nisu pokazali dovoljno svesti da taj blagoslov koji im je pao s neba (ili barem, jelte, došao iz zemnih ostataka dinosaurusa) iskoriste na inteligentan način. Libija, kao i većina arapskih zemalja bogatih naftom, zadovoljava se time da pravo na eksploataciju ove sirovine ustupa za novac strancima i gotovo dramatično zavisi od prisustva stranih kompanija u zemlji. Onog momenta kada strane kompanije ne (mogu da) rade, Libija počinje da gladuje iako sedi na nafti. Naravno, ja ne znam u kojoj meri Libija zavisi od stranih kompanija ali je prilično očigledno da je ta mera povelika - ove dve spomenute u tekstu pokrivaju preko jedne četvrtine proizvodnje i prerade u zemlji, a Libija je naftom najbogatija država u Africi.

U ovom smislu, Iranci (koji i nisu Arapi) su najmudriji sa svojom NIOC, a tu su negde i Saudijci: oni imaju najveću naftnu kompaniju u svetu - Aramco, međutim, ne treba zaboraviti da "am" u imenu ove kompanije označava Ameriku... Vrlo malo Arapa i njihovih država su pokazali instinkt za strateški pristup eksploataciji svog prirodnog bogatstva i umesto da tokom barem poslednjih pola veka, kada su imali kakvu-takvu političku nezavisnost (mada ne baš i stabilnost) razviju sopstvene trgovačke kapacitete, oni su u velikoj meri prepustili taj posao strancima, zadovoljni što ne moraju mnogo da rade, a mogu da okreću lepe pare. Avaj, kada onda dođe do ovakvih situacija, ne samo da se ekonomija zemlje preko noći stropoštava, nego i dolazi do iznuđivačkih programa kao što je devedesetih bio onaj Nafta za hranu kojim je Irak mužen na najciničniji način...

Jel' si ovaj donji deo sam skuckao? Ako jesi imao bih neke primedbe.

Ma, jeste.

svi arapi živi bili,
i dobili sina,
arapine brate mili samo daj benzina.
Crveno ću celo more čistiti od mina,
ali bilo bi još gore da nema benzina.
Država je siromašna,
nema čim da plaća,
gadafi i homeini
to su naša braća.
Mi ćemo vam poklanjati
djevojke sa štrafte
lepe,zdrave i debele,
za izvore nafte
arapi su svi čistunci,
arapi su muškarčine,
arapi su puni love
dobro došo arapine.
burazeru nesvrstani
ovde te svi vole
pošalji nam svoju decu da izuče škole

Quote from: scallop on 23-02-2011, 11:11:33
Jel' si ovaj donji deo sam skuckao? Ako jesi imao bih neke primedbe.

Naravno da sam sam, daj primedbe. Nisam ja neki preteran poznavalac situacije na bliskom istoku, to je jasno.

Naši radnici koji su stigli iz Tripolija, tvrde da baš i nije verovati svetskim medijima. Čovek kaže da nije video ni čuo nikakve avione i helikoptere, niti bombardovanje. Ako je Gadafi postao otpisana persona, ili je nekom u interesu ono što se dešava tamo, možda mu pakuju i ono što ne radi.

Apsolutno ne treba zdravo za gotovo uzimati ono što pišu zapadni mediji.

S druge strane, imati na umu i da u Tripoliju do juče praktično i nije bilo problema, a da su avionski napadi odrađivani na samo nekim mestima, a Libija je povelika zemlja, tako da...

U svakom slučaju, slušaćemo sad o Gadafiju sve najgrđe jedno vreme. Evo, na primer, sada njegov prebegli saradnik tvrdi da ima dokaze da je Gadafi lično naredio bombaški napad na Pan Amov let iznad Lokerbija daleke ali u sećanju još uvek sveže 1988. godine. Ne kaže kakve dokaze, naravno:

Gaddafi 'ordered Lockerbie bombing'

QuoteMuammar Gaddafi personally ordered the Lockerbie bombing that killed 270 people in 1988, Libya's former justice minister has claimed. Skip related content


Swedish newspaper Expressen said Mustafa Abdel-Jalil told its correspondent in Libya: "I have proof that Gaddafi gave the order about Lockerbie."

The comments were translated from Arabic to Swedish.

Mr Abdel-Jalil stepped down as justice minister in protest against the violence against anti-government demonstrations.

Mr Abdel-Jalil did not describe the proof allegedly in his possession.

He told Expressen that Colonel Gaddafi gave the order to Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the only man convicted in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, which killed all 259 people on board and 11 on the ground.

"To hide it, he (Gaddafi) did everything in his power to get al-Megrahi back from Scotland," Mr Abdel-Jalil said.

Megrahi was granted a compassionate release from a Scottish prison in August 2009 on the grounds that he was suffering from prostate cancer and would die soon.

He is still alive.

The Expressen said its reporter, Kassem Hamade, interviewed the ex-justice minister at "a local parliament in a large city in Libya".

Zanimljivo je da zapadni mediji ne umeju da se dogovore kako da transkribuju Gadafijevo ime: Gadhafi, Ghadafi, Gaddafi...

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-02-2011, 18:55:02
Zanimljivo je da zapadni mediji ne umeju da se dogovore kako da transkribuju Gadafijevo ime: Gadhafi, Ghadafi, Gaddafi...

Stigla hitna direktiva "pljujte iz sve snage", ali nisu stigli i detalji. 

Računaju na njihovu kreativnost. 

Nego, evo šta kaže Robert Dreyfuss (američki Boško Jakšić, dugogodišnji pratilac situacije na bliskom istoku i između ostalog autor knjige Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam ) na zadatu temu arapskih nemira i naftne industrije (boldovao sam najinteresantnije delove):

Will the Arab Revolt Challenge Big Oil ?
Robert Dreyfuss
February 22, 2011   

QuoteThe Arab revolution is circling around the region's oil, and there's talk of nationalizing or strengthening state control of industries in Egypt. So far, the Arab revolt has been mostly non-ideological. But at stake is the incalculable wealth of a long-suppressed region.

With Bahrain, the anchor of the US military presence in the gulf, wobbling, and with the seeds of revolt planted in Kuwait, the revolt in Libya could provoke a burst of Arab nationalism aimed at taking control of the Middle East oil resources. With Tripoli, Libya's capital, in flames and Benghazi and most of Libya's eastern region already in rebel hands, there are reports that the holdings of ENI and other oil firms operating in Libya might be nationalized by a new government.

Reports Bloomberg: "Certainly all the oil majors will be shaking if the new leaders decide to nationalize everything."


Oil prices have jumped sharply since the Libyan revolt began, and ENI is scared silly.

Reports CNN:

"Libya sits atop large reserves of oil and gas that have yet to be developed. Libya holds around 44 billion barrels of oil reserves—the largest in Africa—according to Oil and Gas Journal, an industry publication."

ENI, which gets one-seventh of its oil from Libya, and another big chunk from nearly Egypt, is evacuating its personnel, and its stock plummeted:

"Eni said yesterday it has already begun to evacuate non-essential staff and dependants. The company, which gets another 13 percent of its production from Egypt and has smaller operations in Tunisia and Yemen, has said it continues to operate in all the countries affected by political unrest."

BP, too, is evacuating its oil workers from Libya.

Libya produced about 1.6 million barrels of oil in January, roughly two-thirds of Iraq's total output and one-fifth of Saudi Arabia's. The country supplies about 10 percent of Europe's oil supplies, and Italy's ENI oil company is vastly dependent on Libya.

Bahrain, which doesn't produce much oil now, is a lynchpin of the Persian Gulf's Arab states, and the gateway to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis, who've pledged to produce more oil to make up any shortfall from the Arab-wide turmoil, have threatened to use any and all means to shore up Bahrain's regime. But increasingly Saudi Arabia is surrounded, by unrest in Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Djibouti, and possibly—starting on March 8—in Kuwait. In addition, there's trouble in Jordan, and Saudi Arabia isn't on good terms with Iraq.

For both Iranian and Arab nationalists, control of oil has been the touchstone for revolutionary politics. Historically, the marriage of Arab countries with people but no oil, such as Egypt, Syria and Jordan, and countries with oil but few people, such as Libya, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Kuwait, has been a long-standing goal of Arab nationalists going back to President Nasser of Egypt. Leaders who've challenged the domination of Middle East oil by the West have been overthrown or isolated, from Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran in 1953 to Saddam Hussein's vital takeover of Iraqi oil in 1972. After the US invasion of Iraq, when the United States briefly toyed with the idea of privatizing Iraq's vast oil wealth, Iraqi nationalism prevailed, resoundingly defeating any attempt by Western and foreign companies to seize Iraq's oil production, and since then Iraq's successive governments have limited the intrusion of foreign companies into Iraq's oil industry.

So far, the Arab revolt is one without ideology. By all accounts, it's been a revolution for freedom, for dignity, for democracy. How, exactly, that plays out now is unclear. In Egypt, for instance, there's a growing split among the opposition movement, pitting pro-labor youth activists against moderate, reform-minded leaders who are willing, it seems, to make overly broad compromises with the establishment. And a troubling aspect of the events in Egypt is that there is pressure on the Egyptian government, including the military, to privatize state-owned enterprises. Last week, in a major piece on economic policy in Egypt, the New York Times reported that the military is divided over what to do about state-owned businesses. And it said:

"Already there are signs that the military is purging from the cabinet and ruling party advocates of market-oriented economic changes, like selling off state-owned companies and reducing barriers to trade."

Now, it's true that the military in Egypt has created a vast, corrupt network of patronage, military-owned businesses, and a military-industrial complex that sustains the generals' lavish lifestyle. Eliminating the military's privileges, and seizing the assets of its elite, ought to be a key goal of the revolution. But that's not the same thing as dismantling Egypt's nationalized industries and adopting a free-market, neoconservative economic doctrine. (In fact, the neocons who've been clamoring for revolution in the Middle East often see it in terms of privatizing state-owned companies, especially oil, telecommunications and banking.)

The Times expressed concern over moves by the post-Mubarak military authorities to purge or arrest super-wealthy Egyptian businessmen:

"The military-led government also struck at advocates of economic openness, including the former finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali, who was forced from his job, and the former trade minister Rachid Mohamed Rachid, whose assets were frozen under allegations of corruption. Both are highly regarded internationally and had not been previously accused of corruption."

And it quoted Rachid bemoaning the talk of nationalization: "Now there are a lot of voices from the past talking about nationalization—'Why do we need a private sector?' "

Swirling around the Arab revolt, thus, are huge questions about whether the new Arab world will finally get control of its economic power, or once again cede that control to the United States and to its former colonial masters in Europe.

Robert Dreyfuss
February 22, 2011 

Saudijski kralj naložio danas da se 40 milijardi rijala da za razvojni Fond, iz koga će se građani pomagati prilikom kupovine stanova, kola, sklapanja brakova...
Prpa  .

Vidiš da su okruženi revolucijama... Betr sejf den sori i sve to.

Drugarstvo:

http://blog.b92.net/text/17322/Da-li-nam-je-Gadafi-jos-uvek-najveci-prijatelj/#k1028719

Oglasila se i Al Kaida iz Magreba. Podržavaju rušenje Gadafija. Obama razmatra moguće opcije za Libiju. Cena nafte skače. Počinjem deliti Stevinu sumnjičavost u ,, događanja naroda ''. Ne kažem da nije bilo nezadovoljstva, ali... svetske hijene se polako okupljaju oko lešine.

Eto, Al Kaida, Savet bezbednosti i EU sankcije opet u istoj koloni. Jebe se svima za režime u nekim državama, važno je da pare vrte svet.

S druge strane, ima divnih priča iz Libije, evo, pilot borbenog aviona se edžektovao i spustio padobranom, ostavljajući avion da padne, radije nego da bombarduje grad u kome su pobunjenici. I sve tako:

Gadhafi hold whittled away as Libya revolt spreads

QuoteBy PAUL SCHEMM and MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press Paul Schemm And Maggie Michael, Associated Press – 2 hrs 11 mins ago
BENGHAZI, Libya – The scope of Moammar Gadhafi's control was whittled away Wednesday as major Libyan cities and towns closer to the capital fell to the rebellion against his rule. In the east, now all but broken away, the opposition vowed to "liberate" Tripoli, where the Libyan leader is holed up with a force of militiamen roaming the streets and tanks guarding the outskirts.

In a further sign of Gadhafi's faltering hold, two air force pilots — one from the leader's own tribe — parachuted out of their warplane and let it crash into the eastern Libyan desert rather than follow orders to bomb an opposition-held city.

International momentum was building for action to punish Gadhafi's regime for the bloody crackdown it has unleashed against the uprising that began Feb. 15.

President Barack Obama said the suffering and bloodshed in Libya "is outrageous and it is unacceptable," and he directed his administration to prepare a full range of options, including possible sanctions that could freeze the assets and ban travel to the U.S. by Libyan officials.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy raised the possibility of the European Union cutting off economic ties.

Another proposal gaining some traction was for the United Nations to declare a no-fly zone over Libya to prevent it using warplanes to hit protesters. U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said that if reports of such strikes are confirmed, "there's an immediate need for that level of protection."

Italy's Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said estimates of some 1,000 people killed in the violence in Libya were "credible," although he stressed information about casualties was incomplete. The New York-based Human Rights Watch has put the death toll at nearly 300, according to a partial count.

In Tripoli, Gadhafi's stronghold, protest organizers called for new rallies Thursday and Friday, raising the potential for a more bloody confrontation.

Militiamen and Gadhafi supporters — a mix of Libyans and foreign African fighters bused in — roamed the capital's main streets, called up Tuesday night by the Libyan leader in a fist-pounding speech in which he vowed to fight to the death. The gunmen fired weapons in the air, chanting "Long live Gadhafi," and waved green flags. With a steady rain, streets were largely empty, residents said.

In many neighborhoods, residents set up watch groups to keep militiamen out, barricading streets with concrete blocks, metal and rocks, and searching those trying to enter, a Tripoli activist said.

Gadhafi's residence at Tripoli's Aziziya Gates was guarded by loyalists along with a line of armed militiamen in vehicles, some masked, he said. The radio station building downtown was also heavily fortified. In one western neighborhood, security forces stormed several homes and arrested three or four people, a witness said, while tanks were deployed on the eastern outskirts, witnesses in at least one neighborhood said.

"Mercenaries are everywhere with weapons. You can't open a window or door. Snipers hunt people," said another resident, who said she had spent the night in her home awake hearing gunfire outside. "We are under siege, at the mercy of a man who is not a Muslim."

But below the surface, protesters were organizing, said the activist. At night, they fan out and spray-paint anti-Gadhafi graffiti or set fires near police stations, chanting, "The people want the ouster of the regime," before running at the approach of militiamen, he said. The Tripoli residents, like other witnesses around the country, spoke on condition of anonymity because of fear of retaliation.

In opposition-controlled Benghazi, the eastern city where the uprising began, residents held a mass rally outside the city's main courthouse, vowing to support protests in the capital, said Farag al-Warfali, a banker. They also called a one-day fast in solidarity with them. Afterward, young men went into the courthouse to register to obtain weapons, which had been looted from police stations and military bases and then turned over to the city's new rulers, he said.

The idea is to "take their weapons and march toward Tripoli," al-Warfali said, although Benghazi lies 580 miles (940 kilometers) east of the capital, and territory still loyal to Gadhafi lies between them.

There were similar calls in Misrata — several hours' drive from Tripoli, the closest major city to the capital to fall to anti-government forces. A mosque called residents to come to "jihad," or holy war, in support of the anti-Gadhafi camp, said one resident, Iman.

"We are going to join forces with our brothers in Tripoli," she said.

The extent of Gadhafi's control over the country he has ruled for 41 years had been reduced to the western coastal region around Tripoli, the deserts to the south and parts of the center.

After Gadhafi's speech Tuesday night, militiamen flooded into Sabratha, a town west of Tripoli famed for nearby ancient Roman ruins, and battled government opponents who had taken over, said one resident. Around 5,000 militiamen from neighboring towns, backed by army and police units, clashed with the rival group and drove them from the streets, he said.

But his territory was being eroded.

The opposition said Wednesday it had taken over Misrata, Libya's third-largest city.

Residents honked horns in celebration and raised the pre-Gadhafi flags of the Libyan monarchy after several days of fighting that drove militiamen from the city, about 120 miles (200 kilometers) east of Tripoli, said Faraj al-Misrati, a local doctor. He said six people had been killed and 200 wounded in clashes that began Feb. 18.

Residents had formed committees to clean the streets, protect the city and treat the wounded, he said. "The solidarity among the people here is amazing, even the disabled are helping out."

An audio statement posted on the Internet reportedly from armed forces officers in Misrata proclaimed "our total support" for the anti-Gadhafi movement.

New videos posted by Libya's opposition on Facebook also showed scores of anti-government protesters raising the pre-Gadhafi flag on a building in Zawiya, 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of Tripoli. The city is located near a key oil port and refineries on the Mediterranean. The footage couldn't be independently confirmed.

Government opponents were also in control in Zwara, a town about 30 miles (50 kilometers) from the Tunisian border in the west, after local army units sided with them and police fled, said one resident, a 25-year-old unemployed university graduate. "This man (Gadhafi) has reached the point that he's saying he will bring armies from Africa. That means he is isolated," he said.

Gadhafi long kept his army weak and divided for fear of challenge, so in the fierce crackdown his regime has waged on the uprising, he has relied on militia groups, beefed up by fighters hired abroad. Meanwhile, army units in many places have sided with the rebellion.

On Wednesday, two air force pilots jumped from parachutes from their Russian-made Sukhoi fighter jet and let it crash, rather than carry out orders to bomb opposition-held Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city, the website Qureyna reported, citing an unidentified officer in the air force control room.

One of the pilots — identified by the report as Ali Omar Gadhafi — was from Gadhafi's tribe, the Gadhadhfa, said Farag al-Maghrabi, who saw the pilots and the wreckage of the jet, which crashed in the desert outside the key oil port of Breqa, about 440 miles (710 kilometers) east of Tripoli.

The anti-Gadhafi forces and the mutinous army units that have joined them were consolidating their hold on nearly the entire eastern half of the 1,000-mile Mediterranean coastline, stretching from the Egyptian border to Ajdabiya, about 480 miles (800 kilometers) east of Tripoli, encroaching on key oil fields around the Gulf of Sidra.

Across their territory, they have been setting up their own administrations. In many places, committees organized by residents, tribes and mutinous army officers were governing, often collecting weapons looted from pro-Gadhafi troops to prevent chaos.

"There is now an operating room for the militaries of all the liberated cities and they are trying to convince the others to join them," said Lt. Col. Omar Hamza, an army officer who had allied with the rebels in Tobruk. "They are trying to help the people in Tripoli to capture Gadhafi."

At the Egyptian border, guards had fled, and local tribal elders have formed local committees to take their place. "Welcome to the new Libya," proclaimed graffiti spray-painted at the crossing. Fawzy Ignashy, a former soldier now in civilian clothes at the border, said that early in the uprising, some commanders ordered troops to fire on protesters, but tribal leaders stepped in and ordered them to stop.

"They did because they were from here. So the officers fled," he said.

A defense committee of residents was even guarding one of Gadhafi's once highly secretive anti-aircraft missile bases outside Tobruk. "This is the first time I've seen missiles like these up close," said Abdelsalam al-Gedani, one of the guards, dressed in an overcoat and carrying a Kalashnikov rifle.

International alarm has risen over the crisis, and is sending oil prices soaring and European and other countries scrambling to get their citizens out of Libya. Oil prices hit $100 per barrel for the first time since 2008. Libya is the world's 15th largest exporter of crude, accounting for 2 percent of global daily output. Traders are worried the revolt could threaten Libya's oil production and spread to other countries in the region.

Passengers arriving in Malta, a short flight away from Libya, described chaos and violence at Tripoli's airport, with desperate people pushing and shoving to get onto the few flights taking off Wednesday.

"One of my fellow passengers was actually beaten up quite heavily and kicked on," said Steffan Arnersten, a 42-year-old Swede who works as a managing director at a technical consulting company.

The U.N. Security Council held an emergency meeting that ended with a statement condemning the crackdown, expressing "grave concern" and calling for an "immediate end to the violence" and steps to address the legitimate demands of the Libyan people.

After a meeting of EU ambassadors, the bloc did not announce sanctions, but EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the EU stood "ready to take further measures" beyond suspending talks on a bilateral deal.

The precise measures were still being negotiated, a senior EU official said, adding that there were up to 10,000 EU citizens in Libya, sparking worries about getting them out of the North African country safely. The official requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

"The continuing brutal and bloody repression against the Libyan civilian population is revolting," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said in a statement. "The international community cannot remain a spectator to these massive violations of human rights."

___

Michael reported from Cairo. Associated Press writers Sarah El Deeb and Ben Hubbard in Cairo; Frances D'Emilio in Rome; and Angela Doland in Paris contributed to this report.

S druge strane, Amerima nije baš svejedno dokle će cena nafte skakati, a Saudijci trljaju ruke:

Higher oil prices would hamper global economy

QuoteBy JEANNINE AVERSA and CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writers Jeannine Aversa And Christopher S. Rugaber, Ap Economics Writers – Wed Feb 23, 7:10 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Just as the U.S. and global economies are finally strengthening, they face a new danger: Rocketing oil prices, which topped $100 a barrel Wednesday.

The U.S. economy can likely absorb $100 oil and keep expanding, even though gasoline prices would rise further and growth would slow. But it would hurt.

Gasoline for U.S. motorists already costs more than at any point since 2008, despite ample supplies. The national average for a gallon of unleaded was $3.19 on Wednesday — 53 cents more than a year ago. Analysts expect the average to range between $3.25 and $3.75 this spring.

Oil prices had been rising for months, but they jumped this week as violence gripped Libya. Analysts say any production declines in Libya could likely be absorbed by other producers like Saudi Arabia. Libyan oil accounts for less than 1 percent of U.S. crude imports.

Still, analysts say concerns about violence in North Africa and Middle East have put a "fear premium" that's added about $10 a barrel.

Consumers and businesses would feel pinched by a sustained period of $100-a-barrel oil — and not just motorists. Stock prices, which have lost more than 2 percent so far this week, could sink further. That would reduce household wealth and consumer confidence. As fuel costs price rise, so would prices for travel services and products containing plastics.

This month, several airlines tacked on fuel surcharges — extra fees that help cover fuel bills.

Rising oil prices have pushed jet fuel close to $3 a gallon. Fuel accounts for roughly one-third of the budget for U.S. airlines, up from less than one-fifth a decade ago. Fitch Ratings analyst William Warlick said if jet fuel reaches about $3.20 a gallon, "the whole industry will be challenged to stay profitable."

Airlines may soon decide to eliminate some flights and ground older jets to cut fuel consumption, Warlick said. Delta Air Lines has already scaled back plans to add flights this year.

Analysts estimate that over a year, $100 oil would reduce U.S. economic growth by 0.2 or 0.3 of a percentage point. So rather than grow an estimated 3.7 percent this year, the economy would expand 3.4 percent or 3.5 percent. That would likely mean less hiring and higher unemployment.

The global economy wouldn't be affected as much. In part, that's because emerging economies consume less oil, per person, than industrialized countries do. In addition, many developing countries regulate or subsidize the cost of gas. Global growth would slip about 0.1 percentage point, economists estimate.

But oil prices around $100 a barrel could threaten European economies, many of which are net importers of oil and gas, haven't fully recovered from the financial crisis and face heavy debt loads. Spain and Italy, for example, where gas at the pump already goes for about $8 a gallon, face years of a slow, grinding recovery. A spike in oil would deal their economies another setback.

Pricier oil would also push up inflation in Europe, where it already exceeds official targets, and in countries with surging food prices, like China, Brazil and India. Those countries might then have to raise interest rates to cool inflation. Doing so, in turn, would slow growth in Latin America and Asia.

A darker possibility — one that few analysts expect — is that oil prices will keep rising until they reach $150 or more and then stay there for months. Under that scenario, another recession is possible, economists say.

Gasoline prices would near $5 a gallon. Consumers would spend much less. So would businesses, which would slash jobs.

"It would nail the economy," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics. "All the benefits of the tax breaks we got in last year's tax-cut deal would be completely wiped out and then some."

One reason the United States and other developed countries can still grow with oil at $100 a barrel is they've become more energy-efficient since the oil-price shocks of the 1970s. U.S. retailers and manufacturers that use oil-produced plastics, for example, have been shrinking packaging and packing more items onto their trucks. A new wave of redesigned products, like ultra-thin plastic bottles of water, has also emerged.

"Companies have been very clever in what they can do to reduce the production costs without affecting performance," said Jonathan Asher of Perception Research Services, which works with consumer product companies. The latest surge in oil "will turn up the heat even more."

Marc Rosenberg, a marketing official for WowWee Toys, says its products use 30 percent less plastic compared with five years ago.

"Can we live with $100 a barrel oil?" said economist Ken Mayland of ClearView Economics. "I think so. Can that economy still grow if oil is at $110 a barrel? Yes. But past that, you start getting uncomfortably close to the point where people start curbing their spending."

An example was in July 2008. That's when Americans faced record-high oil prices — $147 a barrel. Gasoline prices followed suit. They hit a record $4.11 a gallon nationwide.

The economy was already in a recession in the summer of 2008. But consumers hadn't yet cut their spending much. That changed in the third quarter of 2008 as oil and gas prices soared. Consumers slashed spending at a 3.5 percent annualized rate. It was the sharpest drop since 1980.

Ken Perkins of RetailMetrics, a retail research firm, thinks higher gas prices at the tank are already affecting low-income shoppers who are also paying higher grocery prices. He says gas prices would have to reach $4 a gallon or more to affect moderate-income consumers.

Perkins said more people will shop at neighborhood dollar chains or drugstores to pick up milk or bread and save on gas, further hurting Wal-Mart Stores Inc. Wal-Mart's sales have already been hammered by stepped-up competition.

Fears of another unchecked jump in prices have rattled investors. This week, investors have dumped stocks and shifted money into the safety of Treasury bonds, causing Treasury yields to fall.

The rise in Treasury prices this week lowered the yield on the 10-year Treasury note to 3.49 percent. That yield is used to peg rates on home mortgages and other consumer loans. Borrowers would face lower costs as such rates fall.

That said, interest rates are already relatively low by historical standards. So even a sustained decline in rates, by itself, wouldn't much stimulate Americans' appetite to spend, economists say.

A persistent drop in the stock market, though, would likely chill spending, especially by wealthier Americans. Europe's debt crisis in the spring of 2010 jolted Wall Street and slowed the U.S. economy as Americans reined in their spending.

David Hensley, an economist at JPMorgan Chase, said that if oil prices level off, even at $100 a barrel, the damage to the global economy would be slight and likely confined to the first half of this year. He thinks most countries could adapt to higher prices.

"But if the price keeps going up, and it's accompanied by falling stock prices, then it takes on a more sinister tone," Hensley said.

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AP Business Writers Sandy Shore in Denver, Carlo Piovano in London, David Koenig in Dallas and Samantha Bomkamp, Anne D'Innocenzio and Chris Kahn in New York contributed to this report.

A o Gadafiju sad, gle čuda, isplivavaju smešne pikanterije putem vikilikovanih diplomatskih depeša:

Enough dirt for a Libyan soap opera': Cables reveal Gaddafi family peccadilloes

QuoteCol. Muammar Gaddafi, the leader of Libya, has been in the spotlight this week, clinging doggedly to power as an anti-government uprising sweeps the country he's ruled for over 41 years.

Diplomatic cables released over the past year by WikiLeaks portray the Libyan leader as deeply eccentric and whimsical, but also as a passionate follower of global events who aspires to be a player on the world stage. And they detail how the often embarrassing behavior of Gaddafi's sons--which has included throwing a lavish party at which Mariah Carey was paid $1 million to perform four songs--has had political implications.

Here are some highlights from the cables:

• Gaddafi, 68, is described as a "mercurial and eccentric figure who ... enjoys flamenco dancing and horseracing, acts on whims and irritates friends and enemies alike." He's also said to fear flying over water and staying on the upper floor of buildings, to often fast on Mondays and Thursdays, and to have once proclaimed himself Libya's "King of Culture." Oh, and according to one memo, he travels almost everywhere in the company of a "voluptuous blonde" Ukrainian nurse.

• Gaddafi "avoids making eye contact," according to one 2008 cable sent to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as she prepared to meet the Libyan leader. Rice also was warned that "there may be long, uncomfortable periods of silence,"

• But Rice was also told that Gaddafi is a "a voracious consumer of news," as well as a "self-styled intellectual and philosopher," who "has been eagerly anticipating for several years the opportunity to share with you his views on global affairs." One such view: an idea to solve the Arab-Israeli conflict by creating a new state called "Isratine."

• Gaddafi's five sons also make appearances in the cables. One, Muatassim, who serves as his father's national-security adviser, is said to have demanded $1.2 billion in 2008 from the chairman of Libya's national oil corporation, in order to establish his own militia. Twice in the last few years, Muatassim has held lavish New Year's parties on the Caribbean island of St. Barts, at which Mariah Carey, Usher, and Beyonce have been paid to perform (Carey was reportedly paid $1 million for four songs). The reports of Muatassim's "carousing and extravagance angered some locals, who viewed his activities as impious and embarrassing to the nation," one cable says. The Serbian ambassador is said to have described Muatassim as "not very bright."

• Another son, Hannibal, was arrested in Geneva in 2009 after allegedly beating his servants, sparking a diplomatic spat between Switzerland and Libya. (Charges were dropped after the servants agreed to a settlement.) That same year, police went to Hannibal's room at London's Claridge's hotel, after a scream was heard. Hannibal's then-girlfriend (she is now his wife) was found to have suffered facial injuries, which she said she sustained in a fall. A 2010 cable written by Gene Cretz, then the U.S. ambassador to Libya, judged that between them, Muatassim and Hannibal had  "provided enough dirt for a Libyan soap opera."

• And that's not counting a third son, Sa'adi, who's described as "notoriously ill-behaved," with a "troubled past, including scuffles with police in Europe (especially Italy), abuse of drugs and alcohol, excessive partying, [and] travel abroad in contravention of his father's wishes." A former professional soccer player (he played a season for Perugia in Italy's top division), Sa'adi owns a part of one of Libya's biggest soccer teams, as well as a film production company.

• Perhaps the best-behaved of Gaddafi's sons is Saif al-Islam, the presumed heir apparent, who is said not to get along with Muatassim, Hannibal, and Sa'adi. Ambassador Cretz's 2010 cable said that Libyan men in their 20s describe Saif as the "hope" of Libya, and want him to run the country. "The widening contrast between the respectable, cultured image that Saif has taken on and the spoiled, boorish image his siblings project," Cretz wrote, "has local audiences rallying behind Saif as the next heir to the Gaddafi throne."

• Still, Saif is no altar boy (mosque boy?): Another cable reported that he, too, "persisted in his hard-partying, womanizing ways." Nor does he seem to be a committed moderate. This week, he went on TV to declare that Libya faced a civil war and "rivers of blood" if people failed to support his father.

Stvarno dirljive priče. Suza mi se edžektovala samo još neko o njoj da napiše prikaz. A znao sam da će Vikiliki na kraju da odradi posao za prave poslodavce. Tako me je podsetilo na '68-mu i "narandžaste" revolucije.

Ovo je Blic objavio, ne znam koliko im je verovati :
Agent CIA snabdevao Al Kaidu nuklearnim i biološkim oružjem!
Indijske bezbedonosne snage uhapsile su agenta CIA kod koga su nađeni dokumenti iz kojih se to vidi. Da CIA želi totalni rat na Bliskom Istoku, da uvuće Pakistan u sukob, da se ponovo uspostavi globalna ekonomska dominacija i sl.
Dali su i link : in.news.yahoo.com , ali ja tu nisam uspeo naći vest o tome.
Malo mi je čudno da se agent šetka po Indiji, Pakistanu i Afganistanu, s takvim dokumentima, ili da ih drži negde gde boravi tamo, u kući ili stanu...

Evo je ta vest na stranim sajtovima:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread666467/pg1

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/cias-davis-caught-delivering-nuke-and-biological-weapons-to-cia-manufactured-boogeyman-al-ciada/

Mada su to forumi i blogovi... Pa, sad, ko poveruje, poverovao je.

A, evo je i na tom indijskom Jahuu

http://in.news.yahoo.com/cia-spy-davis-giving-nuclear-bomb-material-al-20110219-224833-452.html

QuoteLondon, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report.

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.

The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.

According to the report, the combat skills exhibited by Davis, along with documentation taken from him after his arrest, prove that he is a member of US' TF373 black operations unit currently operating in the Afghan War Theatre and Pakistan's tribal areas, the paper said.

While the US insists that Davis is one of their diplomats, and the two men he killed were robbers, Pakistan says that the duo were ISI agents sent to follow him after it was discovered that he had been making contact with al Qaeda, after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan, the paper said.

The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added. (ANI)

Pre nekoliko godina, na conspiracy sajtovima jedno od omiljenih štiva bio je specijalni izveštaj CFRa koji je definisao zadatke i smernice nove američke spoljne politike prema arapskim državama pod nazivom In Support of Arab Democracy: Why and How.Zato aktuelna dešavanja u arapskom svetu nisu nikakvo iznenađenje.
Ako znamo da je na čelu ovog projekta uz Medlin Olbrajt bio i Vin Veber,jedan od čelnika NEDa,zloglasne američke organizacije za organizovanje tzv spontanih demokratskih promena režima i građanskih revolucija po svetu, stvari postaju još jasnije.



Međutim,i u samom izveštaju je navedeno da je "oslobađanje" arapske mečke od Amerima nedovoljno lojalnih vlasnika, vrlo opasna rabota i da može da izazove potpuno suprotan efekat od očekivanog.

Kao i obično,Global research daje najtrezvenije i najtačnije analize pa vredi pročitati tekst sa donjeg linka.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php%3Fcontext%3Dva%26aid%3D23159&sa=U&ei=XTJmTemXA8ugOtL-oJEL&ved=0CBEQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNF1dwAiE-fHJBCjucI2_ZKOwhbBug

Ako vas mrzi,ovo je suština:

United States is playing with fire, and while attempting to light a controlled fire to manipulate as it so chooses, the fire can spread and get out of hand.

The preferred route for American power is "democratization," but the scope, velocity and rapidity of recent developments in the Arab world present an incredibly unstable situation for American strategy. While ties with civil society and opposition groups have been or are in the process of being well established (varying on a country-by-country basis), the rapidity and confluence of these uprisings taking place has American power stretched thin.

The situation is intensely complicated and conflicting, presenting America with one of its greatest challenges in recent history. While the obvious intent and even the means of organizing "democratic regime change" in the Arab world are present, I believe the rapidity in which the protest movements and uprisings have emerged could have taken America somewhat off-guard.
So, clearly the situation is not and should not be addressed in a black-and-white analysis. It is intensely complicated, multi-faceted and potentially disastrous. No outcome is preordained or absolute: thus, while acknowledging and examining the evidence for America's deep involvement in the evolution and direction of the protests and opposition, we must keep this analysis within the context of the 'Global Political Awakening.'
We cannot simply dismiss these protests as American machinations and covert operations, but rather as an effort for America to control the 'Awakening'. As the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force Report emphasized, "America's goal in the Middle East should be to encourage democratic evolution, not revolution."
It seems as if this strategy either changed in the intermittent years, or America has been thrown out of its incremental strategy of "evolution" and into the strategy of being forced to respond to and seek to direct "revolution." This makes the situation all the more dangerous for American interests. Thus, we cannot dismiss the uprisings as entirely "orchestrated," but instead understand them in the context of the 'Global Awakening.'
Taking the position that everything is organized from on high in the corridors of power is a flawed analysis. Alternatively, taking the position that America was caught entirely unaware of this situation is naïve and the evidence does not support this assessment. However, we must not see this as an either-or development, but rather a congruence of over-lapping and inter-twining developments.

Што неко већ рекао, врло је занимљиво да се "недемократски" режими налазе увек у земљама које су богате ресурсима и које желе да контролишу сопствене ресурсе. 

Netačno. Amerika ima Aljasku i Teksas. Norveška ima naftu u moru. Venecuela je do te mere demokratska da je narod uspeo da odabere dvorsku ludu za kralja. Tunis je demokratski u poređenju sa nekim drugim državama.

Hm, možda si hteo da kažaš suprotno. Gde ima manje ljudskih prava tu ima i resurasa? To je takođe diskutabilno. Šta je imao Haiti, pa da mu se dese Duvalije i Aristid? Koji je razlog iza kastrove vladavine na Kubi?

Mac, opustio si se previše. Subina konstatacija je prilično OK. Svuda gde su SAD zainteresovane za sopstveni uticaj (resursi ili štagod drugo), a ne postizavaju ga, uobičajeni pristup je da je tamo na vlasti "nedemokratski režim". Mnogo im se dopada imperijalizam iz vizure borbe za demokratiju.

Појаснићу. Када рекох "налазе се" мислио сам налазе их, зато сам и ставио "недемократски" у наводнике, неко други их налази недемократским. Јесу то прилично наказни режими, али ништа наказнији од САД. Садамов Ирак је био демократски у време рата са Ираном? Па опет је уживао подршку САД. Тек након инвазије на Кувајт Садам је постао тиранин.

САД има Аљаску и Тексас. ОК, и као доста им је, не треба им још тога из "недемократских" земаља? А да не потежем демократичност САД.

Poštujem tezu da Amerika (i Britanija pre nje, a i Francuska i Španija i ko zna ko pre njih) ima imperijalistički stav prema zemljama sa strateškim resursima. Poštujem i tezu da se i u modernom svetu nametanje državnih interesa sprovodi na sve moguće načine (kao i kroz celu istoriju). Ja sam samo za preciznost. Da Amerika ili Kina otkriju unobtanijum na svojoj teritorij verujem da ne bi menjale svoje državno uređenje (koje je u jednom slučaju demokratsko, a u drugom nije).

U kom slučaju je demokratsko, a u kojem nije?

Demokratija je precenjena.

Dok se vi gađate mudrim opservacijama na temu političkih uređenja, Gadafi dela:

Gadhafi forces strike back at Libya uprising

QuoteBy PAUL SCHEMM and SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press Paul Schemm And Sarah El Deeb, Associated Press – Thu Feb 24, 7:59 pm ET
BENGHAZI, Libya – Foreign mercenaries and Libyan militiamen loyal to Moammar Gadhafi tried to roll back the uprising against his rule that has advanced closer to his stronghold in Tripoli, attacking two nearby cities in battles that killed at least 17 people. But rebels made new gains, seizing a military air base, as Gadhafi blamed Osama bin Laden for the upheaval.

The worse bloodshed was in Zawiya, 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of the capital Tripoli. An army unit loyal to Gadhafi opened fire with automatic weapons on a mosque where residents — some armed with hunting rifles for protection — have been holding a sit-in to support protesters in the capital, a witness said.

The troops blasted the mosque's minaret with an anti-aircraft gun. A doctor at a field clinic set up at the mosque said he saw the bodies of 10 dead, shot in the head and chest, as well as around 150 wounded. A Libyan news website, Qureyna, put the death toll at 23 and said many of the wounded could not reach hospitals because of shooting by "security forces and mercenaries."

A day earlier, an envoy from Gadhafi had come to the city from Tripoli and warned the protesters: "Either leave or you will see a massacre," the witness said. On Tuesday night, Gadhafi himself called on his supporters to hunt down opponents in their homes.

Zawiya, a key city close to an oil port and refineries, is the nearest population center to Tripoli to fall into the hands of the anti-Gadhafi rebellion that began Feb. 15. Hundreds have died in the unrest.

Most of the eastern half of Libya has already broken away, and diplomats, ministers and even a high-ranking cousin have abandoned Gadhafi, who has ruled Libya for 41 years. He is still believed to be firmly in control only of the capital, some towns around it, the far desert south and parts of Libya's sparsely populated center.

Gadhafi's crackdown has been the harshest by any Arab leader in the wave of protests that has swept the Middle East the past month, toppling the presidents of Libya's neighbors — Egypt and Tunisia. The New York-based Human Rights Watch has put the death toll in Libya at nearly 300, according to a partial count. Italy's Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said estimates of some 1,000 people killed were "credible."

The upheaval in the OPEC nation has taken most of Libya's oil production of 1.6 million barrels a day off the market, and crude prices have jumped 20 percent to two-year highs in just a week — reaching $99.77 per barrel in afternoon trading in New York and $114.20 in London on Thursday. Most of the oil goes to Europe.

Hours after the attack in Zawiya, Gadhafi called in to state TV and in a rambling speech expressed condolences for the dead but then angrily scolded the city's residents for siding with the uprising.

He blamed the revolt on bin Laden and teenagers hopped up on hallucinogenic pills given to them "in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe."

"Shame on you, people of Zawiya, control your children," he said, addressing residents of the city outside Tripoli where the mosque attack took place. "They are loyal to bin Laden," he said of those involved in the uprising. "What do you have to do with bin Laden, people of Zawiya? They are exploiting young people ... I insist it is bin Laden."

Gadhafi quickly condemned the Sept. 11 attacks that bin Laden masterminded, saying: "We have never seen such a horrific and terrifying act performed in such a exhibitionist manner." He cracked down on his country's Muslim militants, including those linked to al-Qaida. But in 2009, he said bin Laden had shown signs that he is open to dialogue and recommended that President Barack Obama seek an opening with the terrorist leader.

Thousands massed in Zawiya's main Martyrs Square by the Souq Mosque after the attack, shouting for Gadhafi to "leave, leave," the witness said. "People came to send a clear message: We are not afraid of death or your bullets," he said.

In the latest blow to the Libyan leader, a cousin who is one of his closest aides, Ahmed Gadhaf al-Dam, announced that he has defected to Egypt in protest against the regime's bloody crackdown, denouncing what he called "grave violations to human rights and human and international laws."

Gadhaf al-Dam is one of the highest level defections to hit the regime so far, after many ambassadors around the world, the justice minister and the interior minister all sided with the protesters. Gadhaf al-Dam belonged to Gadhafi's inner circle, served as his liaison with Egypt and frequently appeared by his side.

The regime's other attempt to take back lost territory came east of Tripoli. Pro-Gadhafi militiamen — a mix of Libyans and foreign mercenaries — assaulted a small airport outside Libya's third largest city, Misrata, about 120 miles (200 kilometers) from the capital.

Militiamen with rocket-propelled grenades and mortars barraged a line of government opponents who were guarding the airport, some armed with rifles, said one of the rebels who was involved in the battle.

During the fighting, the airport's defenders seized an anti-aircraft gun used by the militias and turned it against them, he said.

At the same time, officers from an air force school near the airport mutinied and, along with residents, overwhelmed an adjacent military air base where Gadhafi loyalists were holed up, a medical official at the base said. The air force personnel disabled fighter jets at the base to prevent them from being used against the uprising, he said.

The medical official said seven people were killed in the fighting at the airport — six from the opposition camp and one from the attackers — and 50 were wounded, including a six-year-old girl and her 11-year-old sister.

"Now Misrata is totally under control of the people, but we are worried because we are squeezed between Sirte and Tripoli, which are strongholds of Gadhafi," he said.

The doctor, medical officials and witnesses around Libya spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

Gadhafi's crackdown has so far helped him maintain control of Tripoli, home to about a third of Libya's 6 million population. But the uprising has divided the country and raised the specter of civil war.

In cities across the east, anti-Gadhafi forces rose up and overwhelmed government buildings and army bases, joined in many cases by local army units that defected. In those cities, tribal leaders, residents and military officers have formed local administrations, passing out weapons looted from the security forces' arsenals.

They now control a swath of territory from the Egyptian border in the east, across nearly half Libya's 1,000-mile (1,600-kilometer) Mediterranean coast to the key oil port of Breqa, about 440 miles (710 kilometers) east of Tripoli.

Libyan Parliament Speaker Mohammed Abul-Qassim al-Zwai, asked whether the government planned to send relief to the rebel-controlled east, told reporters in Tripoli: "We cannot supply these areas because they are chaotic. Police stations have been attacked."

International momentum has been building for action to punish Gadhafi's regime for the bloodshed.

The Swiss government on Thursday ordered a freeze of any assets in Switzerland belonging to Gadhafi. The European Union pushed for Libya to be suspended from the U.N.'s top human rights body over possible crimes against humanity and for the U.N. Security Council to approve a probe into "gross and systematic violations of human rights by the Libyan authorities."

Obama said Wednesday that the crackdown "is outrageous and it is unacceptable," and he directed his administration to prepare a full range of options, including possible sanctions that could freeze the assets and ban travel to the U.S. by Libyan officials.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy raised the possibility of the European Union cutting off economic ties.

A number of Arab regimes, concerned about the unrest, have taken pre-emptive measures to try to head off the type of mass uprisings that swept through Egypt and Tunisia and now, Libya.

Algeria, another North African Arab state, on Thursday officially lifted a state of emergency in place for the past 19 years. The decision to do away with the restrictive measure has long been demanded by opposition parties and civil society and it comes amid a flurry of strikes and protests in a wide range of sectors — clearly a gesture aimed at restoring a measure of calm.

In Libya, Tripoli saw an outbreak of major protests against Gadhafi's rule earlier this week, met with attacks by militiamen who shot protesters on sight and killed dozens. One morning earlier in the week, residents awoke and reported bodies littering the streets in some neighborhoods.

Pro-Gadhafi militiamen — a mix of Libyans and foreign mercenaries — have clamped down on the city since the Libyan leader went on state TV Tuesday night and called on his supporters to take back the streets. Residents say militiamen roam Tripoli's main avenues, firing the air, while neighborhood watch groups have barricaded side streets trying to keep the fighters out and protesters lay low.

At the same time, regular security forces have launched raids on homes around the city. A resident in the Ben Ashour neighborhood said a number of SUVs full of armed men swept into his district Wednesday night, broke into his neighbor's home and dragged out a family friend as women in the house screamed. He said other similar raids had taken place on Thursday in other districts.

"Now is the time of secret terror and secret arrests. They are going to go home to home and liquidate opponents that way, and impose his (Gadhafi's) control on Tripoli," said the witness.

Another Tripoli resident said armed militiamen had entered a hospital, searching for government rivals among the injured. He said a friend's relative being treated there escaped only because doctors hid him.

A witness in Tripoli told the AP after touring the capital that security around the city has been relaxed except for two locations that are very heavily guarded. The state TV and radio building was surround by dozens of heavily armed soldiers and several vehicles with heavy machine guns as well as the road leading to Gadhafi's residence. A number of residents have reported that the army deployed tanks Wednesday in Tripoli's eastern suburb of Tajoura.

Late Thursday night in Tajoura, a vehicle with armed men drove by a group of protesters gathering near a clinic and sprayed the crowd with gunfire, a witness said. Residents of Tajoura, which has seen near daily clashes, have also hoisted the old monarchy flag up in a neighborhood square as a show of defiance against the regime.

Some Tripoli residents reported receiving text messages on their cell phones Thursday urging them to go protest in the capital's central Green Square after Friday prayers. The plaza was the site of intense clashes earlier in the week between government supporters and protesters.

Gadhafi and his son, Seif al-Islam, have gone on state television over the past few days to try to portray the uprising as a choice between the order of the old regime or chaos, civil war and "rivers of blood" that could destroy the country's oil wealth.

In his call to state TV, Gadhafi alternated between bitterly lashing out at Zawiya's residents — and by extension others in the population — for being ungrateful and telling them to control what he depicted as an uprising by misguided teenagers.

"If you want to destroy (the country), it's your problem," he said. "If you want to live in this chaos, you are free."

"You should go out and stop the young people who are carrying RPGs and rifles," he said. "If the men are afraid let the women go out."

Earlier Thursday, Libyan TV showed Egyptian passports, CDs and cell phones purportedly belonging to detainees who had allegedly confessed to plotting "terrorist" operations against the Libyan people. Other footage showed a dozen men lying on the ground, with their faces down, blindfolded and handcuffed. Rifles and guns were laid out next to them.

Those who have joined the uprising dismissed his claim that it was led by al-Qaida.

"These are all lies," said Gadhafi's former justice minister, Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, who has sided with the opposition. "There are no al-Qaida, no terrorist organizations."

In eastern, opposition-held Benghazi, Libya's second largest city, a prominent protest organizer who works closely with the administration now running the city, said his camp was "trying to fight the propaganda that the regime is trying to send all over the world, that we are calling an independent state in the state or that we are calling for an Islamic state."

The parliament speaker, al-Zwai, held out some concessions to the opposition, saying an investigative committee will be formed to look into the unrest and work will begin soon to draft a constitution. He also spoke about reforms such as giving salaries to the unemployed and soft loans to others.

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El Deeb reported from Cairo. Associated Press writers Maggie Michael and Bassem Mroue contributed to this

Primetiti boldovani deo, kako ispade da sva nafta koja će sad da fali, ima da fali u Europi. Solidan materijal za teorije zavere.

A evo iz jučerašnje Politike (u gornjem tekstu se pominje da je Gadafiju švicarska vlada zamrzla imovinu u njihovim bankama, a evo šta on ima) :

Гадафијеве милијарде на Западу

QuoteНеизвесна политичка судбина либијског лидера пуковника Муамера ел Гадафија подстакла је на светским берзама питање шта је даља судбина једног од најбогатијих државних инвестиционих фондова. Суверени фонд Либије (ЛИА) располаже сумом 60–80 милијарди америчких долара.

Откако су 2004. године УН укинуле санкције према Либији, режим у Триполију је са оснивачким капиталом од 40 милијарди долара покренуо лавину инвестиција у оружје, западњачке финансијске институције, стратешке енергетске пројекте, италијанске фудбалске тимове... Суверени фонд Либије је у периоду 2006–2009. године (дакле, делом и у време глобалне финансијске кризе) остваривао рекордни годишњи профит од преко 2,3 милијарде долара, извештава агенција Блумберг.

Поређења ради, државни инвестициони фонд Норвешке пословао је у 2007. години са губитком од 2,9 одсто, док је 2008. године остварио пад зараде од 28 одсто.

Либија има новца на разбацивање: тамошњи Суверени инвестициони фонд има средстава као и Катар – највећи светски извозник гаса, који још слови као политички стабилан, додаје Ројтерс. Ко тачно руководи либијским инвестицијама, чиме се у овом тренутку бави ЛИА, да ли се новац трансферише на тајне рачуне широм света, веома брине берзе, и бизнисмене развијеног света који су од 2004. године развили бројне везе са Гадафијем.

Финансијски званичници Либије изузетно су дискретни. Државни инвестициони фонд нема обичај да редовно штампа извештаје о финансијском пословању. Познато је ипак да је Триполи од 2004. године развио мрежу финансијских консултанта у мање познатим одредиштима света. Профил улагања либијских петродолара током последњих година указује на изузетан опрез: само осам милијарди долара из тог фонда дугорочно је уложено у пројекте у северној Африци, Европи и Азији, преноси Ројтерс.

Добар део новца из Либијског државног инвестиционог фонда (око 78 одсто) краткорочно је инвестиран на глобалним финансијским берзама развијеног света.

У међувремену, либијски финансијери покуповали су некретнине на елитним локацијама у Лондону, Паризу, Риму, Дубаију... уложили новац у италијанске банке, гасоводе, фудбалске клубове, развој земљотресима угрожених подручја на Апенинском полуострву...

Гадафијева фамилија се у међувремену чврсто укључила у контролу домаће привреде. Пуковников најстарији син Мохамед надлежан је за рад либијских пошта и телекомуникација. Гадафијева ћерка Ајша веома је утицајна у грађевинарству, син Саиф задужен је за сарадњу са нафташима... Син Мутасим има велики интерес око прераде хране, док је Саади, иначе бивши фудбалер, на вези са Међународним Олимпијским комитетом.

Ко у Либији преговара са страним оружарима – није доступно јавности. Познато је ипак да је Велика Британија у понедељак отказала осам извозних дозвола за снабдевање Либије оружјем: бизнис је цветао готово до јуче. Само крајем 2010. године Уједињено Краљевство одобрило је извоз снајперских пушака и муниције за борбу против масовних демонстрација у вредности од шест милиона америчких долара.

Либијски петродолари привукли су и друге европске оружаре. Само 2009. године државе чланице ЕУ испоручиле су Либији оружја у вредности од 347 милиона долара. Опрему за ометање телекомуникација – која ових дана тако успешно функционише – Либији су тада продале Немачка (за 43 милиона евра), Велика Британија (за 20,7 милиона долара) и Италија (за милион евра). Либија је за набавку малокалибарских пушака са Малте пре две године потрошила чак 79,7 милиона евра.

Малта и Италија јуче су се успротивиле покушају ЕУ да Либији заведе економске и политичке санкције.

Тања Вујић


објављено: 24.02.2011.

A ovde je mala analiza rasporeda snaga u Libiji, među plemenima, takođe iz jčerašnje Politike:

Пуковник зависи од племенских вођа

QuoteЗасад неизвесно да ли ће лидери највећих либијских племена подржати власт Муамера Гадафија или директно утицати на његов пад

Власт Муамера Гадафија, према свему судећи, зависи од тога да ли ће успети да под својом контролом задржи водеће припаднике либијских оружаних снага који потичу из водећих племена у Либији.

Либијско друштво је карактеристично по томе што се људи више идентификују припадништвом одређеном племену или клану, (којих има око 140) него либијској држави. Ова појава потиче још из времена док је Либија била монархија, а пуковник Муамер ел Гадафи је практично до 1993. године безуспешно покушавао да сузбије племена и племенске вође. Међутим, после неуспешног пуча против Гадафија 1993, либијски вођа почиње са тактиком да у оружаним снагама буду представљени припадници свих племена.

Развијајући ривалство међу племенима, а уједно не дајући предност ниједном племену, Гадафи је поприлично ,,увезао" различита либијска племена тако да му буду верна.

Међутим, немири који се протеклих дана одвијају у неколико највећих либијских градова у први план су ставили два веома значајна племена који се налазе у Бенгазију и око њега, највећем граду на истоку Либије где су смештена и богата нафтна поља. Лидер племена Ал Зуваја запретио је још у недељу да ће прекинути испоруку нафте западним земљама уколико власти не прекину, како је назвао, ,,угњетавање демонстраната".

,,Спречићемо извоз нафте западним земљама у року од 24 часа", рекао је шеик Фарај ал Зувај, међутим засад нема информација да је то учињено.

Осим тога, против Гадафија огласио се и један од водећих људи највећег либијског племена Ал Варфала, које броји око милион људи и живи јужно од Бенгазија.

,,Рекли смо нашег брату (Гадафију) да он више није брат, рекли смо му да напусти земљу", рекао је за Ал Џазиру Акрам ал Варфали, при чему највише жртава у сукобима у Бенгазију има баш из његовог племена.

Племену Ал Варфала блиско је и племе Ал Зинтан чији припадници живе у граду Зинтан, на око 100 километара јужно од Триполија. Иначе, житељи овог града на западу Либије међу првима су се укључили у протесте против Гадафијевог режима.

Иако одређени аналитичари сматрају да не би требало прецењивати значај племенских вођа, докази да је утицај племена велики представљају говор Гадафијевог сина Саифа ал Ислама у којем упозорава на рат међу племенима, али и упозорење италијанског шефа дипломатије Франка Фратинија да би се на ободу Европске уније могао формирати ,,исламски арапски емират" око града Бенгазија у којем живи 700.000 људи.

Штавише, шеф дипломатије Италије је јуче изјавио да исток Либије више није под контролом владе. Осим тога, према појединим изворима, наводно је опозиција преузела контролу града Мисурата, који би у том случају био први град на западу земље кога су преузели Гадафијеви противници.

Племенима Ал Варфала и Ал Зуваја, према свему судећи, блиско је и племе Авлад Али, које се налази дужи либијско-египатске границе и које је најавило да ће обезбедити снабдевање медицинским материјалом који шаљу опозициони активисти из Египта.

Ипак, биће пресудно на чију страну ће се заиста ставити племе Ал Зуваја јер оно живи на територији на којој су главна налазишта нафте, од чије продаје је Гадафијев режим успео да значајно побољша економску ситуацију у Либији. Према подацима ММФ-а, бруто национални производ по глави становника у Либији износи око 12.000 долара.

Н. Радичевић


објављено: 24.02.2011.

Pink stao uz Gadafija!

Ameri raspoređuju vazdušne i pomorske snage oko Libije... naravno ne za vojne akcije, već za podršku humanitarnim... usput traje prava medijska satanizacija Gadafija ,, pomahnitao, ubojica, zločinac ''. Očekujem uskoro izveštaje o silovanjima, logorima, ubistvu beba u inkubatoru i slično.

U međuvremenu, Iran najavljuje bojkot olimpijade u Londonu jer je logo - cionistički!!!

Bilo bi zanimljivo kad bi taj "2012" logo bio prekopiran, iseckan i prepakovan kao neki puzzle. Ko zna šta bi ispalo.

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he he he, viđu pesnice, viđu pesnice...

Tačno kao da postoji ustaljen obrazac, šema.
Kao tv serija.
Prvo ide ,, događanje naroda '', onda medijsko bombardovanje o raznoraznim počinjenim zločinima, za koje nemamo konkretne dokaze, onda sledi priča o ,, humanitarnoj katastrofi '', i kao finale, eto bombardera i marinaca. Zli dečko je savladan, i uspostavila se ,, demokratija ''.

Не заборавимо "масовне гробнице" диктаторових жртава које ће се још дуууууго откопавати.

E, dobro me podseti. Gde su one naše grobnice, hladnjače, itsl. Batajnica, gde već? Nisu valjda Miloševićevi zli kadrovi još uvek toliko snažni u demokratskoj Srbiji da blokiraju raskopavanja?

Blokiraju hapšenje zlikovca Mladića, znači, jaki su sasvim dovoljno.