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http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-1428&y=-4794&z=6

Kako ovo postaje pregledno?

Za svaki drugi xkcd u proseku pomislim kako bi zbog Rendala vredelo postati gej.

Imas zum u gornjem levom uglu.

Zašto pretpostavljaš da nisam video zum? Treba mi za sporo pregledanje. Ja imam podatke iz 2008.

Oštanpaj na milimetarskoj hartiji 

Ne mogu. Bacio sam celu rolnu prilikom poslednje premetačine u kući. Preeviše se urolnala.

Nema šanse, ono je pravljeno za školsku tablu.

ne znam o cemu vi to, ali, je li dovoljno bar za tjedan krize?

Amerika na ivici propasti 1: Čovek ulovi ribu od 400 kila a federalne vlasti mu je oduzmu jer je na tom mestu dopušteno samo pecanje a ne i korišćenje mreže:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-catches-881-pound-tuna-seized-feds-194650751.html

Amerika na ivici propasti 2: direktor škole je osuđen na 30 godina zatvora zbog proizvođenja dečije pornografije - u školi!!! Zvuči jezivo, međutim kad pročitate, vidite da je on postavio kamere u vece i snimao (muške) učenike kad piške a posle kući drkao na te snimke. Niti je ikada ikoga pipnuo niti je ikome pokazao te slike. Naravno da nije lepo i sve to, ali, trideset godina??? Pa koliko treba da dobiju ljudi koji se ozbiljno bave zlostavljanjem dece za potrebe komercijalne eksploatacije?

http://news.yahoo.com/us-man-jailed-making-child-pornography-school-165005824.html

Zloupotrebio je službeni položaj. I ovi naši drkaju na nas i veruju da će dobiti još 30 godina, ali, verovatno, neće.

Ma, mislim, jasno da je trebalo da ide zatvor, invazija privatnosti plus maloletnici, plus pozicija na kojoj je bio. Ali trideset godina??? Okrutni su sudovi u Americi. Toliko ne bi bre dobio da se u kafani potuko i ubio čoveka.

Raspištoljavanje je zapisano još kod Džefersona, a raspojasavanje i drkanje nisu zaštićeni Ustavom.

Ima dosta istine u tome što kažeš! Puritanski mentalitet kod njih proizvodi neke zbilja iznenađujuće rezultate.

Invazija privatnosti? Pa oni doneše Patriotski zakon da mogu svakog da uhapse i drže beskonačno dugo bez prava da se brani, i još mogu da ga muče. I još da mogu da prisluškuju, snimaju razgovore, upadaju u telefonske linije, u kompjutere, sve to se može u Americi kad si vlast.
Evo i Kanađani su ovih dana uradili slično.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/11/22/g20-police-operation.html

QuotePolice organizations across the country co-operated to spy on community organizations and activists in what the RCMP called one of the largest domestic intelligence operations in Canadian history, documents reveal.

Pa da neće možda oni da dobiju doživotnu za ovo?

Pa, dobro, jasno, ali tu je, kao, greater good u pitanju...

Customers hit by pepper spray at Wal-Mart describe scene of chaos

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/at-wal-mart-pepper-spray-attack-triggered-chaos-screaming.html

Da su delili besplatne sadnice, još bi se moglo shvatiti ovakvo ponašanje 

QuoteLopez said that by the time he arrived at the video games, the display had been torn down. Employees attempted to hold back the scrum of shoppers and pick up merchandise even as customers trampled the video games and DVDs strewn on the floor.

"It was absolutely crazy," he said.

Another customer said screams erupted after about 100 people waiting in line to snag Xbox gaming consoles and Wii video games got into a shoving match.

Alejandra Seminario, 24, said she was waiting in line to grab some toys at the store around 9:55 p.m. when people the next aisle over started shouting and ripping at the plastic wrap encasing gaming consoles, which was supposed to be opened at 10 p.m.

"People started screaming, pulling and pushing each other, and then the whole area filled up with pepper spray," the Sylmar resident said. "I guess what triggered it was people started pulling the plastic off the pallets and then shoving and bombarding the display of games. It started with people pushing and screaming because they were getting shoved onto the boxes."

The pepper spray wafted through the air, Seminario said, and she breathed some in and started coughing. Her face also started itching.

"I did not want to get involved. I was too scared. I just stayed in the toy aisle," she said.

Američka represija čak i nad sopstvenim čirlidersicama otima se kontroli. Svi smo videli pre neki dan kako je jedn igrač Dalas Kaubojsa u padu pokupio i jednu od čirlidersica pored terena. Ona je posle na tviteru napisala dva kul i opušten komentara o tome i sad joj odjednom više nema tviter naloga. Fašizam!!!!!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cowboys-cheerleader-knocked-over-by-Witten-force?urn=nfl-wp12519

Pravda za Melisu!

Amerika na ivici propasti pre 40 godina.

Amerika je stalno na ivici propasti. Do sada su uspevali da svoju krizu teslime drugima. Ne može se dobro živeti na račun drugih doveka. Strepim samo od pomisli šta bi mogli da izazovu, e da ne bi propali sami.

Mmmda, krizu iz sedamdesetih mogu smatrati ivicom propasti samo razmaženi Amerikanci, ona je bila deset puta bolja od krize iz tridesetih, koja je bila deset puta bolja od srpske krize iz devedesetih. A mi ni danas još nismo dostigli ni njihovu ''Veliku Depresiju'' iz tridesetih.

Izvući će se ta gamad ponovo, sve dok ih neki svjetski rat ne zaustavi.

Opet lupetaš. Ovo je samo uvod u novi svetski rat, i opet će gamad izaći još jača.

u svjetskom ratu ne mogu da pobjede, jedino ako se Kinezi budu borili za njih

nemaju koga da pošalju na front, veće su pičke od Srbijanaca.

Secret records of US bank bailout released, over howls of protest  By Cory Doctorow at 1:54 pm Monday, Nov 28 
Bloomberg has won a lengthy Freedom of Inforn battle to get the details of a secretive, no-strings-attached multi-trillion-dollar payout from the Bush administration (continued by the Obama administration) to banks, the details of which were not available to Congress. The documents make it clear that the banks' posture that they were only borrowing the money to help the government (JP Morgan said it borrowed "at the request of the Federal Reserve to help motivate others to use the system") were purest refined BS. Morgan for example, had borrowed twice its cash holdings.

  The Fed, headed by Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, argued that revealing borrower details would create a stigma -- investors and counterparties would shun firms that used the central bank as lender of last resort -- and that needy institutions would be reluctant to borrow in the next crisis. Clearing House Association fought Bloomberg's lawsuit up to the U.S. Supreme Court, which declined to hear the banks' appeal in March 2011.
The amount of money the central bank parceled out was surprising even to Gary H. Stern, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis from 1985 to 2009, who says he "wasn't aware of the magnitude." It dwarfed the Treasury Department's better-known $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. Add up guarantees and lending limits, and the Fed had committed $7.77 trillion as of March 2009 to rescuing the financial system, more than half the value of everything produced in the U.S. that year.
"TARP at least had some strings attached," says Brad Miller, a North Carolina Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, referring to the program's executive-pay ceiling. "With the Fed programs, there was nothing..."
Lawmakers knew none of this.
They had no clue that one bank, New York-based Morgan Stanley (MS), took $107 billion in Fed loans in September 2008, enough to pay off one-tenth of the country's delinquent mortgages. The firm's peak borrowing occurred the same day Congress rejected the proposed TARP bill, triggering the biggest point drop ever in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. (INDU) The bill later passed, and Morgan Stanley got $10 billion of TARP funds, though Paulson said only "healthy institutions" were eligible.

  Secret Fed Loans Gave Banks Undisclosed $13B (via The Awl)

I konje ubivaju, ikke sant?

Horses could soon be slaughtered for meat in US 

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   TULSA, Okla. (AP) — Horses could soon be butchered in the U.S. for human consumption after Congress quietly lifted a 5-year-old ban on funding horse meat inspections, and activists say slaughterhouses could be up and running in as little as a month.
Slaughter opponents pushed a measure cutting off funding for horse meat inspections through Congress in 2006 after other efforts to pass outright bans on horse slaughter failed in previous years. Congress lifted the ban in a spending bill President Barack Obama signed into law Nov. 18 to keep the government afloat until mid-December.
It did not, however, allocate any new money to pay for horse meat inspections, which opponents claim could cost taxpayers $3 million to $5 million a year. The U.S. Department of Agriculture would have to find the money in its existing budget, which is expected to see more cuts this year as Congress and the White House aim to trim federal spending.
The USDA issued a statement Tuesday saying there are no slaughterhouses in the U.S. that butcher horses for human consumption now, but if one were to open, it would conduct inspections to make sure federal laws were being followed. USDA spokesman Neil Gaffney declined to answer questions beyond what was in the statement.
The last U.S. slaughterhouse that butchered horses closed in 2007 in Illinois, and animal welfare activists warned of massive public outcry in any town where a slaughterhouse may open.
"If plants open up in Oklahoma or Nebraska, you'll see controversy, litigation, legislative action and basically a very inhospitable environment to operate," predicted Wayne Pacelle, president and chief executive of The Humane Society of the United States. "Local opposition will emerge and you'll have tremendous controversy over slaughtering Trigger and Mr. Ed."
But pro-slaughter activists say the ban had unintended consequences, including an increase in neglect and the abandonment of horses, and that they are scrambling to get a plant going — possibly in Wyoming, North Dakota, Nebraska or Missouri. They estimate a slaughterhouse could open in 30 to 90 days with state approval and eventually as many as 200,000 horses a year could be slaughtered for human consumption. Most of the meat would be shipped to countries in Europe and Asia, including France and Japan.
Dave Duquette, president of the nonprofit, pro-slaughter group United Horsemen, said no state or site has been picked yet but he's lined up plenty of investors who have expressed interest in financing a processing plant. While the last three slaughterhouses in the U.S. were owned by foreign companies, he said a new plant would be American-owned.
"I have personally probably five to 10 investors that I could call right now if I had a plant ready to go," said Duquette, who lives in Hermiston, Ore. He added, "If one plant came open in two weeks, I'd have enough money to fund it. I've got people who will put up $100,000."
Sue Wallis, a Wyoming state lawmaker who's the group's vice president, said ranchers used to be able to sell horses that were too old or unfit for work to slaughterhouses but now they have to ship them to butchers in Canada and Mexico, where they fetch less than half the price.
The federal ban devastated "an entire sector of animal agriculture for purely sentimental and romantic notions," she said.
Although there are reports of Americans dining on horse meat a recently as the 1940s, the practice is virtually non-existent in this country, where the animals are treated as beloved pets and iconic symbols of the West.
Lawmakers in California and Illinois have banned the slaughter of horses for human consumption, and more than a dozen states tightly regulate the sale of horse meat.
Federal lawmakers' lifting of the ban on funding for horse meat inspections came about in part because of the recession, which struck just as slaughtering stopped. A federal report issued in June found that local animal welfare organizations reported a spike in investigations for horse neglect and abandonment since 2007. In Colorado, for example, data showed that investigations for horse neglect and abuse increased more than 60 percent — from 975 in 2005 to almost 1,600 in 2009.
The report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office also determined that about 138,000 horses were transported to Canada and Mexico for slaughter in 2010, nearly the same number that were killed in the U.S. before the ban took effect in 2007. The U.S. has an estimated 9 million horses.
Cheri White Owl, founder of the nonprofit Horse Feathers Equine Rescue in Guthrie, Okla., said she's seen more horse neglect during the recession. Her group is caring for 33 horses now and can't accept more.
"A lot of the situation is due to the economy," she said, "People deciding to pay their mortgage or keep their horse."
But White Owl worries that if slaughterhouses open, owners will dump their unwanted animals there instead of looking for alternatives, such as animal sanctuaries.
Animal rights groups also argue that slaughtering is a messy, cruel process, and some say it would be kinder for owners to have their horses put to sleep by a veterinarian.
"Euthanasia has always been an option," Pacelle said. But "if you acquire a horse, you should be a responsible owner and provide lifetime care."
The fight over horse slaughtering has pitted lawmakers of the same party against each other.
Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., said the poor economy has resulted in "sad cases" of horse abandonment and neglect and lifting the ban will give Americans a shot at regaining lost jobs and making sure sick horses aren't abandoned or mistreated.
But U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., is lobbying colleagues to permanently ban horse slaughter because he believes the process is inhumane.
"I am committed to doing everything in my power to prevent the resumption of horse slaughter and will force Congress to debate this important policy in an open, democratic manner at every opportunity," he said in a statement.

Bože kakva drama  . Konji jesu lepe životinje ali su i ukusni, ne znam kako su SAD uopšte stigle do zabrane...

Quote from: zakk on 30-11-2011, 19:36:50
Bože kakva drama  . Konji jesu lepe životinje ali su i ukusni, ne znam kako su SAD uopšte stigle do zabrane...

Nadam se da Mića ne dolazi na ovaj topik.

čujem da su malo žilavi.
gde u bg može da se proba dobra konjetina?

Pazi, ima da se *kupi* meso i kobasice i slično u dve mesare na Kaleniću, jednoj na Cvetku, i verovatno još kojekuda. Ne znam kafanu/restoran gde služe konjetinu.

hm, s mesom ne znam šta bih radio i kako ga spremao, al kobasce, to bi se moglo probati...

Kolko kinti kila? To je nekad bilo budzašto pa se naprasno pozlatilo.

Nikada to nije bilo jeftino, a što se upotrebe tiče najbolje je za gulaš. Priprema se isto kao i od govedine.

Ma daj, devedesetih je konjetina bila ko piletina. Bila mi konjska mesara u komšiluku.

Moj deda bio konjski mesar (samo Mića da ovo ne pročita), od konjetine kupio i bratov salaš i moju kuću...

Šta znam, možda ti deda klao lipicanere. Ovaj naš garant matore rage.

Pa dobro, ti si možda u pravu ako pričaš o devedesetima. Tada se moj deda već uveliko bavio nebeskim pašnjacima...

Jeste vid'li gde je objavljena vest? Tulsa, OK. Da znate koliko im je visoka trava, ako se po njoj kriju bufala? Mogli bi i slonove da gaje i prave odreske.

Ih, kriju se bafala. Treba samo pustiti zemlju u parlog i eto ga bafalo.

Quote from: Steva Lazin Ljuštikin on 30-11-2011, 20:23:41
Kolko kinti kila? To je nekad bilo budzašto pa se naprasno pozlatilo.

Kobaje su oko 400din/kg, sa mesom se nisam baktao, al javnem kad pogledam.

а ако хоћеш да пробаш у неком ресторану, онда ти препоручујем 'потковицу' у голдсвортијевој, имају изузетан тартар бифтек.

Dejane, tatar biftek.

Pa, da, vi udarili brigu na veselje, a vidite ovo:

Čovek je bio šerif i to ne bilo kakav, 2001. godine je dobio titulu Šerifa Godine od Nacionalne Asocijacije Šerifa. Onda se penzionisao i sada je u pritvoru i to u zatvoru koji nosi njegovo ime. Čeka suđenje uz kauciju od 250.000 američkih  dolara. Njegov zločin? Želeo je da ima homoseksualni koitus sa muškarcem i da tu uslugu plati narkoticima umesto novcem... I to čovek koji je do 2008. godine bio u radnoj grupi koja je pravila programe i planove za suzbijanje zloupotrebe metamfetamina u Koloradu. Ameriko... nije tebi lako.

Former "sheriff of the year" arrested and sent to jail named after him 

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Every civil servant wants to experience his or her legacy firsthand--but not the way that onetime Arapahoe Sheriff Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. has. Sullivan, a nationally renowned law enforcement leader, was arrested on drug charges and is now being detained in the Denver area jail that bears his name.

Sullivan, who in 2001 was named the National Sheriff Association's "Sheriff of the Year," was arrested on suspicion of trafficking methamphetamines.
Local news station CBS4 began an investigation of Sullivan last month on a tip that he had agreed to meet a male informant, providing drugs in exchange for sex. He was subsequently arrested by the South Metro Drug Task Force and is currently being held on a $250,000 bond.
And in an incredible twist of fate, Sullivan now cooling his heels atThe Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. Detention Facility, named in his honor.
"The allegations of criminal behavior involving Pat Sullivan are extraordinarily disturbing," said Grayson Robinson, Arapahoe County's current sheriff. "While the arrest of the former sheriff is very troubling, no one, and particularly a former peace officer, is above the law. This is the most shocking thing I've ever been involved with."

Sullivan, 68, has been retired for nine years, but had been serving as director of safety and security for Cherry Creek Schools.
"This is a very sad time for the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office and our community," Robinson said. The CBS4 report also found that for several years Sullivan has posted bond for multiple suspects held in drug cases at jail facilities across the state.
As recently as 2008, Sullivan was an active participant in state and local methamphetamine task forces, helping Colorado draft a plan to deal with the surge in meth-related crime.
In 1995 President Bill Clinton named Sullivan to the National Commission on Crime Prevention and Control. According to a 1995 White House news release, Sullivan was a consultant to U.S. House Subcommittee on Crime and served on two advisory councils affiliated with the Department of Justice.

Nije čovek kriv što je prepoznao i koristio prednosti "američkog sistema vrednosti".

да, пардон 

Šta je tatar biftek???? Kao tartar biftek samo od konja?

Amerika na ivici propasti!!!!!!!!!!! Zapravo, nezaposlenost im je pala na najniži nivo u poslednje dve i po godine. Mada stručnjaci upozoravaju da ne treba suviše da se lože, da je ovo za sada 'babl' itd. i da mnogo toga mora da se menja da bi se stvari vraćale na pravu stranu.

U drugim vestima: nastavnica u Oklahomi uhapšena i biće optužena za proizvodnju dečije pornografije i opscene radnje sa decom jer je devojčice iz trećeg osnovne, na nekoj proslavi slikala u donjem vešu...

Šta li bi bilo da ih je slikala na školskom bazenu? Kako li se to uopšte rešava - ako imaju bezbednosne kamere tamo, imaju i snimke dečice u kupaćim gaćicama?

Pitanje je fer, mada mislim da je tu poenta u tome ko može da ima pristup tim snimcima i šta se sa njima radi. Ovde je, ako si videla vest, problem što je nastavnica apparently nagovorila decu da se skinu u veš i onda ih slikala telefonom..

Ne da se skinu, OBUKU u veš.