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angel011

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-12-2011, 19:57:50
Pitanje je fer, mada mislim da je tu poenta u tome ko može da ima pristup tim snimcima i šta se sa njima radi. Ovde je, ako si videla vest, problem što je nastavnica apparently nagovorila decu da se skinu u veš i onda ih slikala telefonom..


Kapiram koja je poenta, i stvarno ne vidim ama baš nikakav razlog da učiteljica traži malim devojčicama da budu u donjem vešu pa da ih tako slika, samo se pitam koliko daleko sa pravilima Ameri idu, ludi kakvi već umeju da budu. A i pitam se, ako snimci goluždrave dečice ma iz kojeg razloga postoje, kako misle da budu stoprocentno sigurni da to neće dospeti u pogrešne ruke i biti zloupotrebljeno.
We're all mad here.


Meho Krljic

Kad smo već kod donjeg veša

84-year-old angry over strip search at NY airport 
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NEW YORK (AP) — An 84-year-old New York grandmother says she was injured and humiliated during a strip search at a New York City airport.
Lenore Zimmerman says she was on her way to a flight to Fort Lauderdale, Fla. She says she was searched after she asked to forgo body the scanners because she worried it would interfere with her defibrillator.
She says she is hunched over, weighs about 110 pounds and is going to be 85 in February. "Do I look like a terrorist?" she asked. She says the screener made her take off her pants.
She says she banged her shin and it bled during the ordeal at Kennedy Airport. The Transportation Security Administration says she was not strip searched. A TSA statement says a review of closed-circuit television footage shows proper procedures were followed.
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angel011

Svlače sitnu đecu, svlače bakutanere, kreše li taj narod nešto?
We're all mad here.

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


Melkor

I ne samo Amerika...

David Attenborough weighs in on the consequences of climate change — but you won't hear him in the U.S.

The final episode of Frozen Planet — the popular new series from the creators of Planet Earth — addresses the impending threat of climate change on the Earth's poles. In the episode, which will air on BBC One on December 7th, narrator David Attenborough is expected to claim that the Arctic could be completely devoid of ice by 2020.

But in the US, the episode will not air, for fear of the reaction it might draw from America's climate change skeptics. In fact, as of mid-November, the BBC had sold the documentary series to over 30 foreign networks, and a third of them had opted out of the controversial final episode.

In a recent interview with the BBC, Attenborough weighed in about what he hopes people will take away from the Frozen Planet series:
Part of television is to reveal the world...the truth about the world, and both its beauties and its dangers and its splendors and we are understanding increasingly that these two regions of the world — which a tiny minority of the human race can get to — are actually going to have a great influence on our future, on the future of
homo sapiens, if not the future of London. It's not beyond possibility that warming will actually cause sea level rises which could threaten central London.

  In other words, it sounds as though what is perhaps the most salient episode of the series has been omitted from the American broadcast entirely.
Former Tory chancellor and climate change skeptic recently accused Attenborough of sensationalism over the state of the environment. "Sir David Attenborough is one of our finest journalists and a great expert on animal life," said Lawson. "Unfortunately, however, when it comes to global warming he seems to prefer sensation to objectivity."
Asked if there is a risk of coming off as too alarmist when talking about climate change, Attenborough replied:
I try not to, but I think the stakes are very high. The issue as to whether or not human beings are responsible for the increase in temperature, the change in climate, is actually irrelevant in my opinion. The fact is that we know these changes are happening and the evidence for that is incontrovertible; and as far as we can see ahead, if they go on, they will have catastrophic effects on the human race.
I, for one, am supremely disappointed at the prospect of the U.S. missing out on an entire episode of the critically acclaimed series, especially based on the worthless reasoning that "it's controversial." Controversy is good. Controversy begets conversation and progress. If Attenborough does come off as alarmist, allow people the opportunity to interpret that on their own, and others to respond to it in turn. I can't think of a worse way to handle the situation than to not air it at all.

Watch the rest of the interview with Attenborough over at BBC.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

mac

Možda neki centri moći u Americi zapravo priželjkuju globalno zagrevanje, i otapanje ledenog pokrivača? Najviše će stradati siromašni i prenaseljeni u toplim predelima, ali možda je to i cilj?

scallop

Ne, nego centri moći veruju da se Zemlja neće ukvariti za njihova života. Za njih je to roba kojoj može da se prelepi rok trajanja.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Truba

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jobless-iowa-third-state-unemployed-looking-six-months-130045235.html

Jobless in Iowa: a third of the state's unemployed have been looking for work for six months or more

a komentari su depresivni
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Albedo 0

jao bre, njima je osoba siromašna kada nema dva automobila


mac

Nisi u toku, to je tako nekad bilo. Danas je siromašan onaj ko ima tri posla, a dva posla je normalno.

Albedo 0

nije šija nego vrat, ne rade oni dva posla jer sa jednim crkavaju od gladi već što im to nije dovoljno za njihove šoping snove

to je ono što su sociolozi već nazvali new poor, Zygmunt Bauman na primjer...

i jebote, u Ajovi je procenat nezaposlenosti 6%, o čemu pričamo uopšte... depresivni su jer ih je 6%

Meho Krljic

Repriza onoga što smo već videli pre godinu dana:

Tennessee family home burns while firefighters watch
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A Tennessee couple helplessly watched their home burn to the ground, along with all of their possessions, because they did not pay a $75 annual fee to the local fire department.

Vicky Bell told the NBC affiliate WPSD-TV that she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing. "In an emergency, the first thing you think of, 'Call 9-1-1," homeowner Bell said. However, Bell and her husband were forced to walk into the burning home in an attempt to retrieve their own belongings. "You could look out my mom's trailer and see the trucks sitting at a distance," Bell said. "We just wished we could've gotten more out."

South Fulton Mayor David Crocker defended the fire department, saying that if firefighters responded to non-subscribers, no one would have an incentive to pay the fee. Residents in the city of South Fulton receive the service automatically, but it is not extended to those living in the greater county-wide area.
"There's no way to go to every fire and keep up the manpower, the equipment, and just the funding for the fire department," Crocker said.
The South Fulton policy produced precisely the same nightmare scenario last year, when homeowner Gene Cranick--who had likewise failed to pay the $75 annual fee for rural Obion County residents--saw his house engulfed by flames as South Fulton firefighter watched close by. That incident sparked a debate among conservative pundits over the limits of fee-for-service approaches to government.
For his part, Mayor Crocker stressed that the city's  firefighters will help people in danger, even those who haven't paid the fee. "After the last situation, I would hope that everybody would be well aware of the rural fire fees, this time," Crocker said.


Mislim... faking inseniti.

mac

Što inseniti? Postoje dva načina da vatrogasci imaju resurse da rade svoj posao. Prvi je da im neko plati, a drugi je da im neko drugi plati. Način republikanaca je da svako ima slobodu da plaća šta hoće, i onda živi sa svojim izborom. Način demokrata je da su neka izdavanja obavezna, i da tu nema izbora. Demokrate bi mogle da nateraju ovu porodicu na plaća godišnje troškove, a onda bi republikanci uleteli vikajući ne faking inseniti nego faking komjunizm!

Meho Krljic

Ne, ne, to je jasno, ne kažem zbog toga faking inseniti, nego zbog ovoga:

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she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing.

Pa ovo je ko Monti Pajton!!! Mislim, razumeo bih da joj kažu "izvinjavajte, gospodžo, ali niste životno ugroženi a pošto ne plaćate, nećemo dolaziti", ali da dođu i onda stoje i gledaju, pa to je nadrealistički humor!!! Iako uvažavam da je to verovatno da bi se uverili da zaista niko neće umrijeti u ognju, ali ipak, scena je... ludačka.

scallop

Vatrogasci su se normalno odazvali, oni vole da jurcaju i cin-ci-linci po ulicama, znaju da se odazovu iz dve različite stanice samo da bi pravili buku. E, ovi vatrogasci su usput dobili naređenje da ne deluju. Ne treba se tamo ničemu čuditi. Posebno kako je u zdravstvu. Ako ti nije na spisku osiguranja ni puklo slepo crevo ti neće izvaditi.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Pa, jasno, jasno, ali da li će lekar da dođe kod tebe i da te gleda kako umireš i da ti govori "Epajebiga, brate, trebo si da platiš!!"

mac

Vatrogasci dođu i staraju se da se vatra ne proširi na okolnu prirodu, i susedne platiše.

Meho Krljic

Jasno. Ali vizuelno, kakva je to scena!!!

zakk

QuoteFor his part, Mayor Crocker stressed that the city's  firefighters will help people in danger, even those who haven't paid the fee. "After the last situation, I would hope that everybody would be well aware of the rural fire fees, this time," Crocker said.

Pomoći će ugroženim ljudima, a posedi nek gore.

(Slažem se da je neumno)
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Ghoul

plati pa klati.

ni kod babe nema džabe (tako kažu, nisam pito, evo meho će to znati bolje).
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Ma to je čista laž. Ali slađe je kad se plati, znaš da nemaš obaveze onda, pa se oblaporno prepustiš čistom uživanju.

Meho Krljic

Genocid protiv svega što je srpsko se nastavlja. Rod Blagojević dobio 14 godina teške robije:

Blagojevich Sentenced to 14 Years 
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A federal judge today sentenced impeached Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to 14 years in prison, giving little weight to Blagojevich's first-ever apology this morning since his arrest three years ago.
"The jury didn't believe you and neither did I," U.S. District Court Judge James Zagel said.
Blagojevich was convicted on 18 corruption charges, including the scheme to peddle the vacated Senate seat of Barack Obama.
Blagojevich started the day telling the court that he was "unbelievably sorry" for his "terrible mistakes," his last chance to convince the federal judge that he deserved some mercy when he was sentenced on corruption charges.
"I'm here convicted of crimes. The jury decided I was guilty. I am accepting of it. I acknowledge it..." Blagojevich told Zagel. "I want to apologize to the people of Illinois, to the court, for the mistakes I have made. ... I never set out to break the law.   "I never set out to cross lines. I have nobody to blame but myself for my stupidity and actions and the things I did and I thought I could do. I'm not blaming anybody," Blagojevich said.
Prosecutors argued that he has failed the people of Illinois and instead "further eroded the public's confidence in government and government officials."
"He knew from a very early date exactly what he could do to help the people of Illinois and he didn't do it," federal prosecutor Reid Schar said. "Instead, what he did was first to seek personal benefits, jobs, millions of dollars, and things for him in relation to the Senate seat.
"He lied repeatedly, concretely, and on issues that went to the heart of the case and he lied on every episode that he was questioned," Schar said. "He is incredibly manipulative, and he knows how to be."
In setting a conciliatory note, Blagojevich's lawyers have already admitted - for the first time - that it was against the law for Blagojevich to seek a high-level Washington job in return for an appointment to Barack Obama's vacated Senate seat. They also made a case for mercy, reading letters from Blagojevich's wife and oldest daughter.
His wife, Patti, cried Tuesday during the first day of the sentencing hearing as a defense attorney read her plea to U.S. District Judge James Zagel: "The punishment that he fears the most, one that would be most devastating would be that he would not be able to see his daughters grow. Please be merciful."
Defense lawyers argued that because Blagojevich received no money in his assorted schemes to peddle his power, he does not deserve extended time behind bars: "We are asking for the lowest sentence possible."
Judge Zagel earlier sided with prosecutors in key rulings that could help determine the prison sentence. Zagel agreed that evidence showed supporters of  U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., were offering $1.5 million in campaign contributions in exchange for the Senate appointment, a dollar figure that factors into sentencing even though Blagojevich never got the money.
Zagel also agreed that federal guidelines allow for a maximum term of 30 years to life, although such a lengthy term "would be simply not appropriate in the context of this case."
Former federal prosecutor Ronald Safer expects Zagel to hand down a sentence of 12 to 15 years, he told ABC News, sending a strong message of deterrence to corrupt politicians that "those of you out for personal gain will be separated from your families for a very, very long time."
Since the 1970s, three former Illinois governors have been sent to prison, not to mention several others who have gotten in trouble with the law.
If Blagojevich is sent to jail today, he will join George Ryan, a Republican who was governor from 1999 to 2003, who is serving a prison sentence. After a scandal involving the illegal sale of government licenses, contracts and leases by state employees, Ryan was convicted of corruption in 2006.
But Ryan was merely following in the footsteps of those who came before him. Otto Kerner Jr., a Democrat who was governor from 1961 to 1968, was convicted in 1973 on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury and related charges.
Dan Walker, a Democrat who was governor from 1973 to 1977, pleaded guilty to bank fraud, misapplication of funds and perjury in 1987. Walker was sentenced to seven years in prison.
ABC News' Olivia Katrandjian contributed to this report.


Meho Krljic

Reportaža iz tajnog CIA zatvora iz Rumunije:

AP Exclusive: Inside Romania's secret CIA prison
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WASHINGTON (AP) — In northern Bucharest, in a busy residential neighborhood minutes from the heart of the capital city, is a secret the Romanian government has long tried to protect.
For years, the CIA used a government building — codenamed "Bright Light" — as a makeshift prison for its most valuable detainees. There it held al-Qaida operatives Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, and others in a basement prison before they were ultimately transferred to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2006, according to former U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the location and inner workings of the prison.
The existence of a CIA prison in Romania has been widely reported, but its location has never been made public. The Associated Press and German public television ARD located the former prison and learned details of the facility where harsh interrogation tactics were used. ARD's program on the CIA prison is set to air Thursday.
The Romanian prison was part of a network of so-called black sites that the CIA operated and controlled overseas in Thailand, Lithuania and Poland. All the prisons were closed by May 2006, and the CIA's detention and interrogation program ended in 2009.
Unlike the CIA's facility in Lithuania's countryside or the one hidden in a Polish military installation, the CIA's prison in Romania was not in a remote location. It was hidden in plain sight, a couple blocks off a major boulevard on a street lined with trees and homes, along busy train tracks.
The building is used as the National Registry Office for Classified Information, which is also known as ORNISS. Classified information from NATO and the European Union is stored there. Former intelligence officials both described the location of the prison and identified pictures of the building.
In an interview at the building in November, senior ORNISS official Adrian Camarasan said the basement is one of the most secure rooms in all of Romania. But he said Americans never ran a prison there.
"No, no. Impossible, impossible," he said in an ARD interview for its "Panorama" news broadcast, as a security official monitored the interview.
The CIA prison opened for business in the fall of 2003, after the CIA decided to empty the black site in Poland, according to former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the detention program with reporters.
Shuttling detainees into the facility without being seen was relatively easy. After flying into Bucharest, the detainees were brought to the site in vans. CIA operatives then drove down a side road and entered the compound through a rear gate that led to the actual prison.
The detainees could then be unloaded and whisked into the ground floor of the prison and into the basement.
The basement consisted of six prefabricated cells, each with a clock and arrow pointing to Mecca, the officials said. The cells were on springs, keeping them slightly off balance and causing disorientation among some detainees.
The CIA declined to comment on the prison.
During the first month of their detention, the detainees endured sleep deprivation and were doused with water, slapped or forced to stand in painful positions, several former officials said. Waterboarding, the notorious interrogation technique that simulates drowning, was not performed in Romania, they said.
After the initial interrogations, the detainees were treated with care, the officials said. The prisoners received regular dental and medical checkups. The CIA shipped in Halal food to the site from Frankfurt, Germany, the agency's European center for operations. Halal meat is prepared under religious rules similar to kosher food.
Former U.S. officials said that because the building was a government installation, it provided excellent cover. The prison didn't need heavy security because area residents knew it was owned by the government. People wouldn't be inclined to snoop in post-communist Romania, with its extensive security apparatus known for spying on the country's own citizens.
Human rights activists have urged the Eastern European countries to investigate the roles their governments played in hosting the prisons in which interrogation techniques such as waterboarding were used. Officials from these countries continue to deny these prisons ever existed.
"We know of the criticism, but we have no knowledge of this subject," Romanian President Traian Basescu said in a September interview with AP.
The CIA has tried to close the book on the detention program, which President Barack Obama ended shortly after taking office.
"That controversy has largely subsided," the CIA's top lawyer, Stephen Preston, said at a conference this month.
But details of the prison network continue to trickle out through investigations by international bodies, reporters and human rights groups. "There have been years of official denials," said Dick Marty, a Swiss lawmaker who led an investigation into the CIA secret prisons for the Council of Europe. "We are at last beginning to learn what really happened in Bucharest."
During the Council of Europe's investigation, Romania's foreign affairs minister assured investigators in a written report that, "No public official or other person acting in an official capacity has been involved in the unacknowledged deprivation of any individual, or transport of any individual while so deprived of their liberty." That report also described several other government investigations into reports of a secret CIA prison in Romania and said: "No such activities took place on Romanian territory."
Reporters and human rights investigators have previously used flight records to tie Romania to the secret prison program. Flight records for a Boeing 737 known to be used by the CIA showed a flight from Poland to Bucharest in September 2003. Among the prisoners on board, according to former CIA officials, were Mohammed and Walid bin Attash, who has been implicated in the bombing of the USS Cole.
Later, other detainees — Ramzi Binalshibh, Abd al-Nashiri and Abu Faraj al-Libi — were also moved to Romania. A deceptive al-Libi, who was taken to the prison in June 2005, provided information that would later help the CIA identify Osama bin Laden's trusted courier, a man who unwittingly led them the CIA to bin Laden himself.
Court documents recently discovered in a lawsuit have also added to the body of evidence pointing to a CIA prison in Romania. The files show CIA contractor Richmor Aviation Inc., a New York-based charter company, operated flights to and from Romania along with other locations including Morocco and the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
For the CIA officers working at the secret prison, the assignment wasn't glamorous. The officers served 90-day tours, slept on the compound and ate their meals there, too. Officers were prevented from the leaving the base after their presence in the neighborhood stoked suspicion. One former officer complained that the CIA spent most of its time baby-sitting detainees like Binalshibh and Mohammed whose intelligence value diminished as the years passed.
The Romanian and Lithuanian sites were eventually closed in the first half of 2006 before CIA Director Porter Goss left the job. Some of the detainees were taken to Kabul, where the CIA could legally hold them before they were sent to Guantanamo. Others were sent back to their native countries.
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Associated Press writer Desmond Butler contributed to this report.

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Truba

ovo me podsjeti na jednu SF priču gdje su vojnici i nakon smrti se morali boriti... tek nakon što su tri puta ubijeni imaju pravo na mirni počinak  :( :cry:
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Meho Krljic

Seirimo! Iran savatao američku dron letelicu:

Iran releases video of downed U.S. spy drone–looking intact 
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Iran's Press TV on Thursday broadcast an extended video tour of the U.S. spy drone that went down in the country--and it indeed appeared to look mostly intact.
American officials have acknowledged that an unmanned U.S. reconnaissance plane was lost on a mission late last week, but have insisted that there is no evidence the drone was downed by hostile acts by Iran. Rather, they said, the drone likely went down because of a malfunction, and they implied the advanced stealth reconnaissance plane would likely have fallen from such a high altitude--the RQ-170 Sentinel can fly as high as 50,000 feet--that it wouldn't be in good shape.
But Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday that they brought down an American spy drone that was little damaged. And now they have provided the first visual images of what looks to be a drone that at least outwardly appears to be in decent condition, in what is surely another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national security agencies.
The Pentagon declined to comment on the released images Thursday, a Defense Department spokesman told Yahoo News. But military analysts said it appeared to them to be the American drone in question.
"I have been doing this for thirty years, and it sure looks like" a stealthy U.S. drone to me," Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute and consultant to the RQ-170's manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, told Yahoo News in a telephone interview Thursday. "I think we are going to face the high likelihood that Iran has an intact version of one of our most important intelligence gathering tools."
Still, Thompson went on, the intelligence "windfall" to Iran from obtaining the advanced U.S. stealthy drone may be mitigated.
"I don't think the Iranians get as much out of it as they might hope," he said. "It probably came into their hands as a result of a technical malfunction. What that means is they still don't have a real defense against the U.S. flying other vehicles that have similar capabilities, without much fear of interception."
Analysts also noted that the video of the drone released by Iran did not show the drone's underside. "Pretty intact," the Center for Strategic and International Studies' James Lewis said by email. "Interesting that they covered the underside."
The New York Times reported Thursday that--unsurprisingly--the RQ-170 was lost while making the latest foray over Iran during an extended CIA surveillance effort of Iran's nuclear and ballistic weapons program.
"The overflights by the bat-winged RQ-170 Sentinel, built by Lockheed Martin and first glimpsed on an airfield in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 2009, are part of an increasingly aggressive intelligence collection program aimed at Iran, current and former officials say," the Times' Scott Shane and David Sanger wrote. "The urgency of the effort has been underscored by a recent public debate in Israel about whether time is running out for a military strike to slow Iran's progress toward a nuclear weapon."
Iran in turn has complained that the drone overflights represent an act of aggression and violation of its sovereignty, and summoned the Swiss envoy--who represents U.S. interests in Iran--on Thursday to lodge a protest.
However, while the images of the U.S. drone surely allowed Iran to score another public relations blow against Washington, Iran may find it tough to generate much in the way of international sympathy for being the target of U.S. surveillance.
Last week, Iranian hardliners ransacked the British embassy in Tehran, prompting the United Kingdom to recall its diplomatic staff from Tehran and order Iran's embassy in London closed. Last month, the UN atomic watchdog agency issued a report raising concerns about research Iran is suspected by some nations to have conducted before 2003 on military aspects of its nuclear program. Iran has insisted its nuclear program is for peaceful energy purposes. In October, the United States accused elements of Iran's Qods force of plotting to assassinate the Saudi envoy to the United States. The United Nations General Assembly voted last month in favor of a resolution condemning the Iranian plot.
Amid its growing international isolation, Iran, unsurprisingly, seemed intent to play up the drone incident for all it could.
"China, Russia want to inspect downed U.S. drone," proclaimed a headline from Iran's Mehr news agency Thursday.
The RQ-170 Sentinel, however, reportedly did not use the latest U.S. surveillance technology on board, in part because as a single-engine aircraft, it was thought more likely to occasionally go down.
"The basic principles of stealthy aircraft are fairly well known," Thompson said. "In terms of [the drone's] on-board electronics and information systems, it is fairly routine in combat to require authentication codes to make them hard to unlock."

scallop

Reconnaissance plane? Poetika žanra?  xfrog
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Amerika na ivici propasti 1: Čitaoci magazina Men's Health izglasali Dženifer Eniston za najseksepilniju ženu ikad. Mislim, dobro, ukusi su neraspravljivi i plemenito je kako urednik objašnjava da je kod nje seksi to što je duhovita, ali ipak...



Amerika na ivici propasti 2 (mada je ovo moglo i u Može l' biti gluplja): žena inscenirala silovanje da bi ubedila muža da se odsele u bolji kraj grada.


Melkor

Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped, study reveals  Domestic violence generic pic The study revealed that sexual violence against men is also prevalent   Continue reading the main story      Related Stories Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped or suffer attempted rape at some point in their lives, a US study says.
Even more women, estimated at 25%, have been attacked by a partner or husband, the Centers for Disease Control said.
The findings form part of the first set of results from a nationwide study surveying sexual violence by intimate partners against men and women.
More than 24 people a minute reported rape, violence, or stalking, it says, with 12 million offences reported.
Experts at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) described the results of the first year of the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey as "astounding".
Among the key figures included in the survey's findings were:

       
  • more than one million women reported being raped in the 12 months prior to the survey
  • more than six million women and men were a victim of stalking
  • more than 12 million women and men reported rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner over the course of a year.
Lifelong hurt "People who experience sexual violence, stalking or intimate partner violence often deal with the effects for their entire life," said Dr Linda Degutis, director of CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
Many of those attacked experience rape or sexual assault in their early years, with almost 80% of rape victims suffering their ordeal before the age of 25.
Some 35% of women raped before they were aged 18 were also raped as adults, Dr Degutis added.
Among the effects measured by the study, Dr Degutis said, were increased fears for safety and incidents of post-traumatic stress among victims.
Clinical conditions including asthma, irritable bowel syndrome, diabetes, frequent headaches, chronic pain and difficulty sleeping were also more likely in women who are raped or subject to assault.
There were also clear findings about the incidences of attacks on men and observations about health impacts on men who suffer rape or sexual assault.
An estimated one in 71 men has been raped at some point in their lives, the study finds.
Almost 53% of male victims experienced some form of intimate partner violence for the first time before the age of 25. Some 25% of male rape victims were first raped when they were 10 years old or younger, the findings show.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Truba

ništa ja njima ne vjerujem
Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

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kako je rekao jedan američki stand-up komičar, danas su ''nefunkcionalne porodice'' većina u Americi, dakle funkcionalne porodice su nenormalne

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Meho Krljic

Lepo. Pisali smo o tome na drugom topiku onomad. Ali lepo imati i vidoje.

Nego, druga tema: ril lajf horor u Ameriki:

Woman set afire in elevator of her NYC building
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   NEW YORK (AP) — A woman burned to death in the elevator of her Brooklyn apartment building Saturday after a man ambushed her, sprayed her with liquid and set her afire with a Molotov cocktail, police said.
The unidentified man was waiting for 64-year-old Doris Gillespie, when the elevator doors opened to her floor of the Prospect Heights building. The man sprayed her with an accelerant and set her on fire, New York City police spokesman Paul Browne said.
"It was apparent he knew she was on the elevator," he said.
No arrests had been made as of early Sunday, and police were still searching for the suspect.
The brutal attack happened shortly after 4 p.m., lasted about a minute and was recorded by two video cameras, including one inside the small elevator.
Brown said the video showed the elevator doors opening to the fifth floor where Gillespie's apartment was located and the assailant stepping in and spraying her.
Gillespie, who had grocery bags in her arms, turned about 180 degrees and then crouched in an attempted to protect herself, he said. But the man sprayed her directly in the face and continued to spray her "sort of methodically" over her head and parts of her body as the bags draped off her arms. She turned around and retreated to the back of the elevator.
At some point, Browne said, the suspect then pulled out a barbeque-style lighter, used it to ignite a rag in a bottle and then waited for a few seconds before using the flames to set her afire, causing smoke to fill the elevator.
The man backed out as she fell to the floor of the elevator, Browne said, and seemed to pause before tossing the bottle inside the elevator and onto her.
Browne would not comment on the motive in the killing, but said the suspect knew his victim.
Investigators believe the suspect fled down the stairs of the building, he said.
Police released still images of the man Saturday night, showing him in a black jacket, wearing what appear to be surgical gloves and with a white dust mask perched atop his head like a pair of sunglasses. He is holding what appears to be a canister with a nozzle and spraying as he steps into the elevator.
Neighbors reported a fire in the building, unaware that the woman was burning to death in the elevator.
Residents were evacuated from the six-story building for hours Saturday night. 

scallop

Knjiga, film i TV su čudo. Tipični copycat.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Ghoul

Quote from: scallop on 18-12-2011, 16:53:41
Knjiga, film i TV su čudo. Tipični copycat.

samo još da nam skalop otkrije koji naslov je ovom prilikom navodno kopiran.

ja ovakvu scenu ne pamtim da sam negde video.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

A, da te samo ignorišem?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Ghoul

tipični ignoramus.
pitaš ga ODAKLE JE KOPIRANO - i on zanemi.
i odma bi da ignoriše.

pa ignoriši, brate, ko ti brani?
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Albedo 0

pa i ja ne bih sad mogao da preciziram odakle je kopirano, ali sam u filmovima viđao ljude koji su se tako branili od napadača, dakle sprej i upaljač jeste već viđeno na filmu.

Ghoul

evo da ti ja pomognem: imaš npr u TRUE ROMANCE memorabilnu upotrebu laka za kosu + upaljač (u samoodbrani), ali to UOPŠTE nije ista situacija kao ova opisana gore.

sad, ja ne poričem da postoji neka takva, u nekom filmu, zato lepo i pitam: ODAKLE je to iskopirano.

mali je milion scena u kojima nekog živog poliju koječime i zapale, ali - da li je to dovoljno za usklik "tipični copycat"?
ovako studiozno?
na javnom mestu?
u liftu?
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

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ne može filmski uradak da se upoređuje sa Rl situacijom, em što je u filmu scna potpuno kontrolisana a uz to ko zna koliko puta ponovljena, a ovaj amater je to morao da uradi iz prve. Dakle, to što u finesama ne lični na ovo ili ono ne znači da nije iskopirano. ko bi uopšte mogao da dođe do ideje da nekog ovako ubije a da nije vidio na ekranu?

Josephine


Lord Kufer

Prvi na listi za poređenje je No Land for Old Men, po bizarnosti.
Razlog za ovo istrebljenje je dug od 2.000 dolara. Za ovakvo ubistvo radi primera ima milion uzora.

Meho Krljic

Šta vam se u Americi dogodi kada ste musliman i krenete avionom na konferenciju o diskriminaciji muslimana? Pa, naravno, izbace vas iz aviona.

A šta vam se desi kada hoćete da pomognete ženama koje žele da začnu a nemaju novca za tradicionalne banke sperme? Država vam pošalje naredbu da prekinete sa donacijama.

Fašizam!!!!!!!!!!1

Edit: hoću da kažem, zanimljivo je ovo pitanje: država veli da po pravilima koja važe za zvanične donatore sperme, moraš da se testiraš na bolesti sedam dana pre davanja. I to zvuči smisleno, u tom smislu ovaj baja je u prekršaju i sve to. Ali, da je taj baja umesto da spermu šalje, istu isporučio direktno u tela pomenutih 14 žena (bar je toliko dece rođeno), ne bi bio ni u kakvom problemu... Hm?

mac

Da je direktno žene ne bi mogle da tuže državu za nebrigu.

Meho Krljic

Ali da li mogu da tuže državu ovde? Ovaj se nije predstavljao kao da ima ikakvu državnu dozvolu da radi ovaj posao.

mac

Da, pardon, pričao sam napamet. Sad sam pročitao tekst i postao pametniji.  :idea: Mogli bi i mi da dignemo jedan ovakav sajt...

Meho Krljic

Nisam siguran da bi iko želeo moj DNK, ali ima nas ovde i boljih psihofizičkih predispozicija, tako da, samo napred.