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Interesantno

http://normanspinradatlarge.blogspot.com/2011/12/immortalizing-backlist.html

Od 15 januara krece slanje JetBook Color-a, prvog e-ink citaca u boji ( rebrandiran Hanvon zapravo pa je uslovno prvi).Moze se uzeti kao pre-order po ceni koja para usi-499$ sa zvanicnog Ectaco sajta.

Preskupo je to. Naročito kada se uzme u obzir da za taj novac može da se uzme i kindl i fajer - i da još ostane para.

Quote from: spale on 10-01-2012, 15:59:34
Moze se uzeti kao pre-order po ceni koja para usi-499$ sa zvanicnog Ectaco sajta.

prećeraše! slažem se sa NF.

Quote from: Nightflier on 10-01-2012, 17:59:50
Preskupo je to. Naročito kada se uzme u obzir da za taj novac može da se uzme i kindl i fajer - i da još ostane para.

Kindle Fire koristi LCD ekran, ja to ne bi ni nazvao e-readerom.Ko je citao jednom sa e-ink taj LCD nece vise ni pogledati.
Dalje ni ekran mu nije velik,7", ipak gore pomenuti Jetbook ima 9,7".

Evo za sada tri moguce varijante za one koji zele e-ink ekran kao i veliku dijagonalu 9,7" (2 osnovna zahteva koja svaki e-reader mora ispuniti  ):
1.Jetbook  Color 499$
Dakle nov prozivod, tek treba da se pokaze po preview-ima je dobar, za sada jedini color e-ink na trzistu.Ali skup sto jes,jes.
2.Onyx Boox M92 303Eur ( ovo je najeftinije sto sam nasao pitanje je koliko je sa postarinom i ostalim troskovima)
Takodje novi prozivod, ali vec ima dosta utisaka o njemu pa se moze reci fenomenalna naprava.Ako treba bacicu neki snimak.
3.Kindle DX 379$
vec mnogo puta opisan, predstavljen 2009, po meni najbolje kupiti ga polovnog.

Fajer koristi IPS ekran. Ja imam citac sa e-ink ekranom, a ubrzo mi stize jos jedan, pa opet citam sa transformera. Zgodnije mi je iz raznoraznih razloga.

jutros sam na jutarnjem programu na Pinku uhvatio kraj vesti o nekom tabletu namenjenom zemljama u razvoju, koji će navodno koštati 100$. nisam pokupio celu vest, je l' zna neko o čemu se radi?

Verovatno novi model Apple-a - iPood.

Da nije ovo

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/intelligent-energy/a-solar-powered-tablet-for-every-child/11981

Bogami, sto vise koristim tablet, to sam manje odusevljena.    baterija ne izdrzi 3 sata hevidjuti koristenja, treba mu taman toliko da se napuni pa i vise, punjenje u autu slabo-do-nikako funkcionise, kucanje je patnja ziva, a povrh svega, refleksija jest gadna, najtflajer je bio u pravu, od tableta mi slaba vajda na suncanom danu... eto, dobar mi je samo za angry birds. 

Koji tablet je u pitanju?

Huawei Ideos S7 Slim.

Znas kako ti konobari u restoranu sta god da narucis kazu: "Odlican izbor, madam". Sad znas i da lazu 

Hvala, libe.

Da li je samo taj model takav, ili to važi za sve tablete, šta god konobari pričali?

Ne vazi za sve tablete, i ovde je aktuelno ono pravilo kol'ko para... U stvari, kad god kupujes bilo kakav tehnicki uredjaj, a posebno nesto ovog tipa, moras da se zakopas u specifikacije, user reviews, sajtove i blogove koji prikazuju iste... I onda izaberes nesto sto se uklapa u tvoje potrebe i finansijske mogucnosti kao i filozofiju kupovine. Ja, kad sam vec odlucio da kupim tablet i odvojim recimo 300$, sakupicu i jos 200$ da pazarim nesto iz high-end dela spektra. Ali to sam samo ja i malo sam geeky kada je tehnika u pitanju.

Ok, hvala.

Ma znam, nego nije to kupljeno, ovde firme strasno vole da radnoj snazi uvaljuju kojekakve tricarije tek za tax rajtof.

Ideos S7 je zloglasan po bateriji. Kod nas može da se kupi u Telenoru. No, pošto ja poštujem onu englesku izreku da nisam dovoljno bogat da kupujem jeftine stvari - pri čemu sam i podstanar, pa moram da pametno rasporedim svaki dinar, imam običaj da bar nekoliko meseci istražujem pre nego što kupim bilo šta. Elem, u ovom trenutku jednostavno se ne isplati kupovati bilo koji android tablet sem Asusa i Samsunga. Na stranu to što su sedmoinčni tableti u načelu nezahvalni zbog slabije baterije.

S druge strane, pre jedno mesec dana kod mene je bio Asusov desetoinčni netbuk. Izvanredan ekran, baterija sa trajanjem od deset sati, 250 Gb hdd. A sve to po ceni od 200 eura. Za nekoga ko trenutno traži prenosni funkcionalni uređaj, zgodan za čitanje knjiga, netbuk je sjajan izbor po pristojnoj ceni.

Jos jedna patnja sa Ideos S7 je sto nema USB port nego koristi mikro SD kartice.   

Malo koji tablet ima usb port. Koliko znam, jedino Vjusonikov. Sem toga, džabe ti usb port ako tablet nema hanikomb, odnosno android 3,0

Eeee, sad smo upali na pipav teren... 


Kao prvo, izgleda mi da ima dosta tableta sa usb varijantom, što ugrađenom ili preko adaptera, što sa mini ili standard portom. Da sam ga kupovala, to bi mi garant bila prva stavka na koju bih obraćala pažnju, pošto mi je to zaista važno. Ali dobro to, nego ima tu još jedna caka koja je meni jako bitna: ja na ove gadžete stvarno ne gledam kao na nešto što se unucima ostavlja, meni su sve to 24/7 hevidjuti spravice koje se koriste taman dok se nešto bolje ne pojavi, isto kao i mobilni telefoni. Čak i da sam ga sama plaćala, ne bi mi na pamet palo da dajem 2x veću cifru za spravicu koja mi za godinu ili dve potpuno istu radnju obavlja... za laptop da, ali za mobilni ili tablet... pa ja to bre skršim po džepu i torbama i pre no što stigne da iole zastari. 

Ma, sve to zavisi za šta ti spravica treba. Ja sam, recimo, tražio tablet samo zbog toga što sam išao na teren često - a tablet je zgodan za poneti. U biti, trebala mi je sprava preko koje mogu pogledati anime, pročitati neku knjigu, i otići na net. Tablet se tu fino uklopio. Takođe, nisam tražio ništa izuzetno, a najvažnija stavka je bila cena. S obzirom da sam imao neku vezu u ŠveCkoj, dobio sam tablet baš jeftino. Ai, ipak najvažnija stvar je upravo ovo što je pre nekoliko postova kazao Melkor:

Sve zavisi koliko si para spreman izdvojiti, za šta ti tablet treba i tako dalje. Meni je trebao za pomenute stavke, i iskren da budem, skroz sam zadovoljan - mada ja tablet ne koristim u every day use, nego samo kad putujem negde daleko ili, poslednjih meseci, kad sam išao na preglede kod ortopeda (jer sam čekao u redu po nekoliko sati, tako da tablet dobro dođe za ubijanje vremena) Inače, ovako izgleda:

Pa, meni od ponedeljka do petka zamenjuje bukvalno sve, i telefon i pc i čitač, a imam i rezervnu bateriju, ali svejedno, retko kad živ uveče stigne sa mnom kući. 

Evo interesantnog članka:

http://pandodaily.com/2012/01/17/confessions-of-a-publisher-were-in-amazons-sights-and-theyre-going-to-kill-us/

QuoteWhen you see Snooki's book on the New York Times Best Seller List, you know publishing is in trouble.

You can blame readers and say publishing is just giving the public what they want. But that's only half the problem.

The rest is a lazy publishing industry that does far too little of the work that got them here: Discovering new authors and giving them a shot. Instead, they go for the lazy lay-up: Overpaying on celebrity memoirs and pop culture phenomenons with a built in audience.

But that was a short term mistake that has put the publishing industry behind the eight ball. And, according to this industry insider who asked not to  be named, a familiar bully is about to take them out. From an email:

   

QuoteSo Amazon, pretty much since they started selling books, has been selling them for razor thin or zero margin. We sell them books at 50% of the retail price. You'll notice that popular books are usually selling for more than 50% off. So they're actually losing money on them. For years Borders and Barnes and Noble maintained that this was unsustainable, but the tactic succeeded in putting Borders out of business, putting BN on the ropes, and destroying hundreds of indie stores. It also lowered customers' perception of what a book *should* cost.

    When ebooks started, we were pricing ebooks at the same price as the print book, and Amazon was selling them all for $9.99. So they were losing like $3-$4 per book. And they weren't doing it simply to move Kindles, since they don't actually make any money on the Kindle unit sales. Now with the "agency model" we get to set the ebook price and Amazon simply takes 30% of that.

    We all kinda assumed that Amazon was either using books as a loss leader for other things (like getting people to sign up for Prime or simply gathering customer data), or was maybe planning on raising the prices they sell books for once BN and Borders were eliminated as competition. But I think they actually intend to keep print books at their current prices, and they want ebooks to be even cheaper. What they're actually targeting is the publishers' margin.

    Long-term there's no future in printed books. They'll be like vinyl: pricey and for collectors only. 95% of people will read digitally. Everybody in publishing knows this but most are in denial about it because moving to becoming a digital company means laying off like 40% of our staffs. And the barriers to entry fall, too. We simply don't want to think about it.

    Amazon is thinking about it, though, and they're targeting the publishers directly.

    Publishers like to pretend that we make our money from discovering unknown talents for small advances  and selling millions of their books. That's a very small part of our business. The bestselling books are all written by celebs, by people with huge platforms, by fiction writers with a long history of bestselling books, or by people who do a proposal that's on its surface brilliant. In short, there's a bidding war among the publishers over the big books. We all know what the good books are–it all comes down to how much of an advance we're willing to pay for them. The hotly fought-for books are the ones that sell. And while we might not make huge profit % on these, we make big profit $ on these. They keep the lights on by covering overhead. Better to cover our fixed costs by going all in on a few big books than trying to buy dozens of mid-list books.

    But in recent years, as book sales have declined, the advances for the biggest books have gone down proportionally, too. What used to be a $1 million book is now a $400,000 book. Publishers are thinking, "OK, we'll move less copies but we'll pay less for them, so we'll survive." Enter Amazon's print publishing arm. They hired this guy Larry Kirshbaum to run it–he's a savvy vet with 30+ years of publishing experience–and they have some editors, too. And they've been paying a ton of money for books.

    I saw this [redacted] proposal a few weeks back. It was okay–[same redacted author] is an asshole but [redacted] has a certain following and it would probably be a bestseller. Bestseller now means selling 20,000 copies, so I was thinking of offering like [hundreds of thousand] for it. But Amazon had already bid $1 million for it. A similar thing happened with a [redacted] memoir a few months back. Traditional publishers are snickering, "Look at stupid Amazon–overpaying for books!"

    But Amazon isn't stupid. They're overpaying intentionally to keep advances high (and high advances will bankrupt publishers). And they're also taking away all the authors who actually move units. They gave Seth Godin really favorable terms on a deal. Only a matter of time before they snag a James Patterson or some other big genre fiction name.

    We can't pay $1 million for books anymore. Amazon could probably afford to lose $20 million/year in their publishing arm just to put the other publishers out of business. I think that's what they're trying to do–throw money around in an industry that doesn't have any, until Amazon becomes not only the only place where you buy books, but the only place that publishes books, too.

    So rather than getting a 30% of an ebook (with the other 70% being split between the publisher and author), they'll be getting a 70% cut (with the other 30% going right to the author). Funny thing is that it's actually better for authors.

    To be honest, publishing is a quaint little industry based on romance and low profit margins. But now we're in Amazon's sights, and they're going to kill us.

I have no insight into whether Amazon has planned this out, or it's just a happy accident given the success of the Kindle, the iPad and other eReaders and the general dysfunction of publishing. But I don't have much more sympathy for publishing than Farhad Manjoo has for independent book stores. Amazon didn't create publishing's woes, any more than blogging created the challenges of newspapers. The company is just cleverly exploiting them.

And good for them. My hope is disgruntled publishing executives like the one above will quit their comfortable jobs at dysfunctional prehistoric companies and start innovating on the model. I don't believe the public only wants books written by over-tanned drunks who go clubbing anymore than blog readers only want slideshows and posts on Apple.

Someone will build the next great publishing imprint out of these ashes. And as a reader and an author, I can't wait.

Quote from: LiBeat on 18-01-2012, 10:38:31
Huawei Ideos S7 Slim.

pa kad neces da kupis iPad.
ja se poslednjih dana igrala s ovom melkorovom igrackom (mislim, ne njegovom ) i MORAM naglasiti da je sporaaaa da crknes.

Hoce to sa multitaskingom. Ume da uspori kada je pokrenuto previse procesa. Zato postoji task manager

Quote from: LiBeat on 18-01-2012, 19:14:27
Eeee, sad smo upali na pipav teren... 


Kao prvo, izgleda mi da ima dosta tableta sa usb varijantom, što ugrađenom ili preko adaptera, što sa mini ili standard portom. Da sam ga kupovala, to bi mi garant bila prva stavka na koju bih obraćala pažnju, pošto mi je to zaista važno. Ali dobro to, nego ima tu još jedna caka koja je meni jako bitna: ja na ove gadžete stvarno ne gledam kao na nešto što se unucima ostavlja, meni su sve to 24/7 hevidjuti spravice koje se koriste taman dok se nešto bolje ne pojavi, isto kao i mobilni telefoni. Čak i da sam ga sama plaćala, ne bi mi na pamet palo da dajem 2x veću cifru za spravicu koja mi za godinu ili dve potpuno istu radnju obavlja... za laptop da, ali za mobilni ili tablet... pa ja to bre skršim po džepu i torbama i pre no što stigne da iole zastari. 

od tih sa usb varijantom, jedino sam ovaj imala u rukama:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/55/sony-s1.jpg
kolega ga ima i on je zadovoljan. baterija navodno drzi 10 sati. simpatican je uredjaj, al ne bih ga kupila.

Quote from: Melkor on 19-01-2012, 14:22:24
Hoce to sa multitaskingom. Ume da uspori kada je pokrenuto previse procesa. Zato postoji task manager

ne znam da li si video novi OS: http://www.apple.com/ios/gallery.html#video-ios
znaci, osecam se kao da sam u minority reportu!

Quote from: lilit_depp on 19-01-2012, 14:40:00
ne znam da li si video novi OS: http://www.apple.com/ios/gallery.html#video-ios
znaci, osecam se kao da sam u minority reportu!

lol ne mogu da ga pustim sa tableta, bacicu pogled kad dodjem kuci

Ja ću opet da nahvalim svoj transformer. Međutim, ja sam imao specifične potrebe i prohteve, koji su uključivali tastaturu sa dodatnom baterijom, tako da sa njom mogu da izvučem dvadeset sati rada ekrana, što je sjajno. Da se razumemo, u estetsko-ergonomskom smislu nisam video savršeniji tablet od ajPeda 2, ali mi ipak znači slot za memorijsku karticu, kačenje na bilo koji PC bez potrebe prethodnog instaliranja ajTjunsa, kao i mogućnost kačenja eksternog hdd-a preko usb-a.

Trenutno nameravam da kupim eksterni hard samo za potrebe biblioteke. Doduše, sada ima eksternih hardova i za Eplove uređaje, ali su drastično skuplji i memorijski ograničeni.

Quote from: lilit_depp on 19-01-2012, 14:40:00
ne znam da li si video novi OS: http://www.apple.com/ios/gallery.html#video-ios
znaci, osecam se kao da sam u minority reportu!

Pa sta znam, ako si se vec igrala Samsung Tabom videla si da dosta ovih "revolucionarnih" featursa vec postoji u honeycombu, da ne pominjemo sladoled sendvic Ali, svi to rade, kopiraju jedni od drugih, malo nasminkaju i onda to bude novo i nikad vidjeno     

Quote from: lilit_depp on 19-01-2012, 14:16:39
pa kad neces da kupis iPad.

Eh, lako je tebi, ti si u tom fazonu, to onako familijarno... 


Problem je što ga ionako ne bih mogla da koristim za posao, isto kao što ne mogu ni svoj laptop, pa kud ću jadna sa tim silnim ličnim gedžetima, onda? Da po celi dan sa sobom vucaram desetak kila hardvera? Čoveče, do pre par godina nosila sam u tašni A5 page-a-day diary i divota jedna kako mi je sve bilo ultra super organizovano i pregledno i na dohvatu... sad mi treba pola sata samo da se prisetim gde mi je to fajl koji mi treba... eh, dobra, stara papir vremena... 

Šta je problem sa korišćenjem laptopa za posao? Onako kako si ga opisala, delovao je sjajno.

Ma sjajan i jeste, nego su mi svi poslovni programi pod licencom i ne mogu ih daunlodovati na svoj komp.

Elison je ziv i relativno zdrav, i pored one melodrama-kvin izjave od pre skoro pa godinu dana.

Quote from: LiBeat on 24-01-2012, 13:56:33
Elison je ziv i relativno zdrav, i pored one melodrama-kvin izjave od pre skoro pa godinu dana.

Jasno, da je i ono s "nikad-više-Ellisona-videt'-nećete" bila dobro sračunata reklama. A kad smo već kod reklama:

1988 Chevrolet Geo Commercial

Book-centered social networking site Goodreads, which allows users to keep records of the books they read and share the information with others, has long sourced most of its basic book data from Amazon (NSDQ: AMZN). Now, saying Amazon's API terms have become "more and more restrictive," Goodreads is switching data providers and entering an agreement with book wholesaler Ingram—alarming some users who fear their reading records will be lost.Goodreads used Amazon's public Product Advertising API to source basic book data like title, author, page count and publication date.
Goodreads' situation illustrates the risks of building a site around any retailer's API, since that retailer can change its terms at any time. Amazon's Product Advertising API license agreement has not changed since April 2011 but "the terms now required by Amazon have become so restrictive that it makes better business sense to work with other data sources," the company told me.
Specifically, Goodreads finds two requirements of Amazon's API licensing agreement too restrictive. Amazon requires sites that use its API to link that content back to the Amazon site exclusively—so a book page on Goodreads would have to link only to its product page on Amazon, and not to any other source or retailer. Goodreads links to many online retailers. "Our goal is to be an open place for all readers to discover and buy books from all retailers, both online and offline," the company told me. Amazon also does not allow any content from its API to be used on mobile sites and apps.[/font]

Baš sam razmišljao da otvorim nalog na Goodreads.

Quote from: Usul on 15-12-2011, 16:25:05

Quote from: nickname on 11-12-2011, 11:05:33
Nisam primetio da je neko kačio, ovo je prvi put da vidim da se ebook na srpskom može kupiti kod nas

naseeknjige.com

Nadam se da je ovo samo početak.

Hvala za link. Jednostavan nacin da se nabavi Lauseviceva nova knjiga.

Pojavio se i PDF. Senka jos nije.

Quote from: Nightflier on 28-01-2012, 22:40:58
Baš sam razmišljao da otvorim nalog na Goodreads.

ok je goodreads, ima silesija clanova i fino su aktivni, ali ipak, mora se to sve dobro "prosejati" da bi se nasao profi i ozbiljan komentar... inace, moj najomiljeniji rivjuista polako postaje Abigail Nussbaum, i to ne samo zbog ove BSFA nominacije, nego eto, nekako sa njenim rivjuima uvek "kliknem", sto bi se reklo. Steta sto joj rivju output nije veci...

Fear and Loathing in e-Land

stigao kindle touch

Quote from: smrklja on 18-02-2012, 01:00:39
stigao kindle touch

Čestitam!!!!

Odličan je stvarno, ja imam Kindle 3, ali zabalavio sam kada sam video ovaj. Već smišljam kako da proglasim Kindle 3 "ženinim" pa da budem onda "prinuđen" da nabavljam Touch

Moja žena je za prošli rođendan dobila kindl 4, samo što još nije stigao iz Kanade, pošto ga je tamo kupila neka njena rodbina. Nadam se da će joj stići do leta. S druge strane, razmišljamo nabavljanju Fajera. Po ceni od 170 dolara, zaista je džabe.

hvala, super je, uzeo sam ga sa onom lampicom, sad ću da sačekam jesen za tablet i vidim ko tad ide za ameriku

Quote from: smrklja on 18-02-2012, 01:00:39
stigao kindle touch

Samantha Fox- Touch Me

Sta koristite za citanje na nemobilnim uredjajima? Ima li nesto sto otvara i mobi i epub?