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Started by Pajke, 20-05-2005, 10:28:05

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Pajke

...veceras posle ponoci(mislim oko 00,15h) daju neki horor ciji je naslov Tama.

marduk

Španski horor, Darkness, pravio ga čovek Jaume Balaguero koji je mislim režiro i .. uf kako se zvaše film...?
Meni se Darkness itekako dopao. Gledaj.

Morticia

Jaime Balaguero je režirao španski horor Bezimeni. Film koji mi je na prvo gledanje u bioskopu prošao sasvim fino, iako sam imala utisak da nešto fali. Samo još malo jeze, taj fazon.
Sledeći put sam koristila opciju na videu gde se jedna sekunda na traci prikazuje kao sedam u realnom vremenu... e... kada tako odgledate ubačene materijale ubistava i maltretiranja u filmu, sve nekako deluje drugačije.
You're dead, son. Get yourself buried.

Lurd

Pa ja da gledam reklamu za yup uloške u kojoj sekund traje sedam sekundi, izgledala bi mi drugačije.
My trees...They have withered and died just like me.

Morticia

Šešeljugini govori ili reklama za yup... mrtva trka.
You're dead, son. Get yourself buried.

Lurd

A Bezimeni je bio razočarenje. Super je atmosfera i gradi se neka tenzija, ali nagrada za gledaoca je nikakva, a konačni tvist je previše lejm za pamćenje. Ali jeste dobra atmosfera.

Dobro, gledam pola sata Darknessa, a onda - MIČAM!!!
My trees...They have withered and died just like me.

Pajke

Quote from: "Lurd"A Bezimeni je bio razočarenje. Super je atmosfera i gradi se neka tenzija, ali nagrada za gledaoca je nikakva, a konačni tvist je previše lejm za pamćenje. Ali jeste dobra atmosfera.

Dobro, gledam pola sata Darknessa, a onda - MIČAM!!!

Ja gledam pola sata Darkness, zatim stisnem REC na VHS rekorderu. Za to vreme gledam MIČAMA, posle toga ostatak Darknessa.  :wink:

Morticia

Quote from: "Lurd"A Bezimeni je bio razočarenje. Super je atmosfera i gradi se neka tenzija, ali nagrada za gledaoca je nikakva, a konačni tvist je previše lejm za pamćenje. Ali jeste dobra atmosfera.
Da, da... evo ja ne mogu da se setim razrešenja. Pamtim i majku i ćerku i oca i kuću i ljude u kući. Demit, ne mogu se setiti zašto se ćerka ubila. Prisećam se nešto, kao kroz maglu.
You're dead, son. Get yourself buried.

Lurd

Odgovor (ako se dobro sećam): Ubila se zato što je to vrhunsko zlo, besmisleno i tako će naneti najveći bol majci.

Ali izgleda opako, naročito sa onom protezom.
My trees...They have withered and died just like me.

Ghoul

evo ga moj stari rivju koji sam pre 4-5 god. slao na AICN:

Well, you guys are in for a nasty surprise once this comes your way after all those glowing reviews, because the film is not all that great. I mean, after a diet of DRACULA 2000, URBAN LEGEND 2, VALENTINE, FORSAKEN etc. it WILL be a refreshing, nice meal, but it's only because of that. The film is OK, (3- on my list, on a par with STIR OF ECHOES, etc) but far from the masterpiece all those reviews would like to make it. By now you all know it's based on Ramsey Campbell's novel, and that it deals with a mother looking for her daughter, apparently killed, but whose voice calls her several times on the phone, asking her help...
The beginning is great, very dark and gloomy (and although the stress is on atmosphere here, these guys in Spain had a budget and knowledge for some very nice gruesome effects, shown briefly, but not blink-and-miss briefly: the two unforgettable ones being a badly decomposed girl's corpse found in the beginning, and later in the film, a guy with his throat wide slashed and A LOT of blood all over his chest), and the leading lady gives a credible performance as the bereaved mother. There are creepy sequences, but there are two or three main faults in the film:
1.   The middle part starts to drag a lot, with too much unnecessary talk and not much plot movement.
2.   The bad guy in the asylum is a comic-book villain, too unredeemingly evil, even with some ugly skin disease, which is somewhat distracting after a credible drama before it. Also, the portrayal of the sect behind the girl's kidnapping is too superficial and, well, comicky – it's obvious that Campbell knew even less about the occult than Dennis Wheatley, while his attitude towards the field is similar.
3.   Finally, the film's greatest problem lies in its ending. Yes, the very thing that many reviewers found so great (but not so with its US distributors: and for once in the movie history their meddling with the ending –AN OTHERWISE DESPICCABLE PRACTICE- might, I repeat, might make this film better). I won't spoil it for you, but I'll say that it is as downbeat and sudden as can be. It's also unreedimingly grim. I have no problem with that: I LOVE grim endings (you don't believe me? Well, David Cronenberg is my all-time-favorite director!). The problem with this ending is that it makes absolutely no sense with the PLOT: you see, the story is about this sect which is intent on making Evil incarnate, and their members have devoted decades of attempts to do it and blah-blah because they have great plans with this Evil – and in the end the effect of all their complex, dangerous and elaborate designs is to HURT ONE SINGLE PERSON! And then nothing more. Nada. Nista. The end.
If you wonder what is the cruelest (or most Evil, if you like, though I hate the word Evil, for it signifies everything and nothing) way to hurt someone – you'll see it in the end. But it just doesn't make sense in terms of the story that preceeded it.
Anyway, the film's director, Balaguero, knows his trade, and I have high hopes for his DARKNESS, because I guess the problems of THE NAMELESS come from the novel, and the script's too much faithfulness to it.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Lurd

Malo da skrenem sa teme. (I da naglasim da ovo zaista pitam, ne zajebavam, provociram itd. )

Je l' može "faithfulness" da se koristi u ovom smislu?
My trees...They have withered and died just like me.

Ghoul

naravno da može:

faithful (fâth´fel) adjective
1.   Adhering firmly and devotedly, as to a person, a cause, or an idea; loyal.

- faith´fulness noun

Synonyms: faithful, loyal, true, constant,....

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition  © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation;

sintaxa jeste malkice trapava
lepše bi zvučalo da sam kazao:
'the script's being too faithful...'
ali ovo što sam napisao svakako nije pogrešno, a za standarde AICN-a je ionako predobro.

gramatički gledano, veća je greška to što je komparacija od 'evil' = evilest, a ne the most evil...
:oops:
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Lurd

Hvala.

Pitao sam jer nikada nisam čuo da se tako koristi.
Sa druge strane, šta sam pa čuo?
My trees...They have withered and died just like me.

iNCUBUs

Meni su se i Los sin nombre i Darkness dopali.
Pogotovo ovaj prvi.

Darkness ima neku čudnu atmosferu, vredi ga pogledati svakako, uprkos očajnim ocenama na imdb-u.

Mada voleo bih opet da ga pogledam, da vidim da li će utisak da mi se promeni.
Mike Lowery: Hey, isn't it low tide?
Marcus Burnett: Yes, I think it is.
Mike Lowery: Don't you have some relatives that you need to go pick up?

Tex Murphy

Meni su oba filma dobra, Los Sin Nombre bolji. Darkness je povremeno napet, ima vrlo lijep kraj (obožavam antihepiende), ali problematično je što jednostavno nije strašan. Čak ni kad sam bio sam u stanu i ugasio svjetla, nisam uspio da se prepadnem navodnih ljigavih kreatura koje kofol žive u mraku. I potencijalno veoma jeziva scena (sa prostorijom punom djece duhova) nije strašna jer nam je već poznato da su dotična dječurlija na našoj strani. Gubi Finiks, ovo ne valja.
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