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 Bogami, afera postaje iscrpljujuća za praćenje ali svejedno zurim u sve to ko zec, strašno me fascinira, ali ne toliko rasprava po sebi, nego reakcije koje u meni proizvodi. Recimo, potpuno se slažem i potpuno podržavam GV kada reaguje prijavom na takvo nedopustivo ponašanje RW, potpuno se slažem kada insistira da to ponašanje bude sankcionisano od strane Riderkona, potpuno se slažem sa RC-om kada donesu sankciju koju su doneli ali onda vidim GV reakciju, i, priznajem, tu me ona potpuno gubi i ja uopšte nisam u stanju da je dalje pratim. Ja shvatam da žena u njenoj poziciji može da se tako oseća na nekom subjektivnom i emotivnom nivou, ali nekako sam očekivala da će osoba njene inteligencije i integriteta uspeti da sagleda događaj iz objektivnije perspektive, makar da uvidi kako RC sankcija jeste simbolična, ali upravo zbog toga i ima dublji efekat nego što to na prvi pogled izgleda, a taj efekat je reputacijske prirode. Uopšte nije bitno što je banovan na "samo" dve godine, isti bi učinak ta sankcija postigla i da je na "samo" godinu dana, jer RW od sada neće biti tamo neki tipus iz Hjugo komiteta, nego će biti haraser koji je banovan sa RCona. Čudi me da GV to ne uviđa, ili, ako uviđa, čudi me što i to ne prepoznaje kao deo sankcije, i to upravo onaj deo koji je RWa funkcionalnije kaznio negoli prost ban. I toje ta tačka u kojoj se po pravilu mimoiđem sa aktivistima feminizma, i iskreno, njihove motivacije su mi nedokučive a učinak neprihvatljiv.



Recimo, jasno mi je da je GV razočarana zato što je očekivala doživotni ban. A očekivala je doživotni ban zato što ga je Agasi dobio za realtivno manju transgresiju, I to je isto bila jedna od afera u kojoj nisam mogla da ispratim aktere do kraja, iako sam isprva bila na njihovoj strani: Agasi je banovan kao stalker koji je zurio u jednu članicu RC panela, ujedno prijateljicu GV, koja je u njeno ime i pokrenula disciplinski postupak. I sad, okej, nek je Agasi banovan doživotno, Riderkon ipak nije zakonska društvena struktura i ne mora se povinovati bilo kakvim pravilima sem onima koje je sam doneo, ali brate, bilo je to ipak na stalker nivou, i Agasi je u tu ženu zurio, dakle, sa distance i bez fizičkog kontakta, pa ipak je ta transgresija proglašena za "sexual harassment". I dobro sad, kako to postaviti u okvirima oficijelne terminologije, gde "sexual harassment" ima daleko ozbiljnije konotacije i predstavlja brutalan napad na ženu? Da li GV shvata koliko je taj Agasi slučaj devalvirao terminologiju kada je zurenje, dakle pasivnu transgresiju jednog sociopate, definisao terminom koji podrazumeva brutalni napad na ženino telo i integritet? Šta bi bilo da je Agasi tako zurio u nekog muškarca na panelu, da li bi i to bilo okvalifikovano kao "sexual harassment"? I eto, to je taj domen u kom ostrašćeni pojedinci koriste feminizam kao ideološku alatku za svoje privatne svrhe i ciljeve, degradirajući ga u tom procesu, a sebe otvarajući za mogućnost prepoznavanja isto tako dubokih sociopatskih poremećaja.

I sad, naravno, kad se sruktura obezvredi, onda se i svaki pojedini čin unutar te strukture može lako dovesti u pitanje, jer je gradacija do te mere poremećena da sama struktura nikoga više ne služi kako treba, pa je zato i GV naizgled sa pravom ogorčena što  je RW banovan na 2 godine za transgresiju jaču po intenzitetu od one koja je Agasiju donela doživotni ban. Ali GV odbija da sagleda problem objektivno, pa joj promiče da je Agasi banovan doživotno zato što kod njega taj reputacioni deo sankcije ionako ne bi funkcionisao, dok kod RW itekako funkcioniše, pošto je očigledno da bi njemu lakše palo da je banovan doživotno ali da se to ne zna, nego što mu se na reputacionom delu sankcije javno insistira od strane samog RC komiteta.

I to je taj deo koji nikada ne mogu da ispratim i prihvatim, jer smatram da takva ostrašćenost odnosi prevagu nad razumom i šteti apsolutno svima. 

Samo da dodam da RW-u (koliko sam shvatio) nije prvi put da maltretira nekoga. U tom slučaju, nije li moguće da ova blaža kazna neće da utiče na njegovo ponašanje na nekim drugim "dešavanjima" ili prema drugim osobama?
Osim toga, ako je nulta tolerancija, onda je tolerancija nula, nezavisno od "stepena" maltretiranja ili ma o kome se radilo (pa i da je neznamkakav urednik čega već ili šta sve već nije)?

@Libe: Pa, koliko shvatam, Riderkon bi trebalo da se povinuje pravilima koja je sam doneo, a ta pravila kažu doživotni ban, reputaciju ni ne pominju. Ne spominju ni različite kazne za različite stepene harasmenta, harasuj nekog i popićeš doživotni ban. Zero tolerance. I onda ispadne, kad je u pitanju anonimus, da će pravila biti poštovana, a ako je nešto poznatije ime u pitanju, e, onda sledi "slap on the wrist".


Da je RW trajno banovan, i dalje bi bio haraser koji je banovan sa Riderkona - i to trajno banovan sa Riderkona, plus bi se pokazalo da pravila važe za sve.


EDIT: postovao Gaff

Znam, znam, oboje imate pravo, a da i ne govorim sad kako mi i koliko taj stav strci od svih misljenja koje su ponudili mnogi ljudi koje straobalno cenim. 
ali ne stima mi tu nesto, pa da ga andrak nosi. Doduse, to su falinke po kojima je najbolje ceprkati kada situacija nije ovako usijana konkretnim povodom, i kada stavovi nisu ovako polarizovani.

Na koja mišljenja misliš (al' je ovo sročeno...)?

Ne znam da li je sad pravi trenutak za ovo pitanje, ali... da li je Harlan Elison doživeo ikakve reperkusije osim što su ga (još jednom) javno kritikovali, onomad kad je ćapio Koni Vilis za sisu pred silnim svetom?

Pa, na skoro sva, jer se ne secam da sam naisla na ijedno javno izneseno misljenje a da sa ovim mojim nije bilo... pa, eto... ortogonalno. 
a nije da ih je malo bilo... 

   
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Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 30-07-2012, 11:24:16
Ne znam da li je sad pravi trenutak za ovo pitanje, ali... da li je Harlan Elison doživeo ikakve reperkusije osim što su ga (još jednom) javno kritikovali, onomad kad je ćapio Koni Vilis za sisu pred silnim svetom?

e, vidis, to je jedna od najbitnijih tacki: fakt da je unutrasnja mehanika fandoma uvek bila vrlo... specificna po tom pitanju.

e sad, probelm je sto je to u sustini bila opsteprihvacena konvencija koja je (nazalost) ostavljala nekakav prostor da se tu slepaju i sociopate koje su u okrilju takve konvencije mogle da lakse "utope" svoju psiho-socijalnu specificnost. To ti je isti onaj instinktivni poriv koji ispoljavaju pedofili kada zavrsavaju u okrilju klera - samo ustrojstvo klera omogucava im da lako i nekaznjeno upraznjavaju parafilije koje bi pod drugim drustvenim i zakonskim okolnostima bile striktno sankcionisane.

ali to je, po meni, potrebno prepoznati i izdvojiti, a ne sankcionisati blanket-manevrima. (ako shvatas sto hocu da kazem)

Argh, mozak mi još uvek ne radi, ja sam te razumela da se mnogi koje straobalno ceniš slažu sa tvojim mišljenjem. 


No, hvala za linkove, ima tu nekih za koje nisam znala, a dobra su imena. 


Nego, kakav bi metod ti predložila za rešavanje ovakvih slučajeva? A da ne ispadne da haraseru malo priprete prstom, pa on nastavi po starom?

Quote from: LiBeat on 30-07-2012, 11:31:14

e sad, probelm je sto je to u sustini bila opsteprihvacena konvencija koja je (nazalost) ostavljala nekakav prostor da se tu slepaju i sociopate koje su u okrilju takve konvencije mogle da lakse "utope" svoju psiho-socijalnu specificnost.

Da, to sam i ja primetila, a pazi, ako je samo na osnovu blogerskih izveštaja u poslednje dve-tri godine moguće primetiti da sociopate fandom, i posebno konvencije, doživljavaju kao "bezbedno mesto" gde mogu da se iskažu u punom sjaju (open source boob project i tako to) onda... e, meni je dosta jasnija ta reakcija GV. Jer onda ispada da fandom s jedne strane pokušava da bude napredan, tolerantan, politički korektan, a sa druge upravo tom tolerancijom podstiče jednu određenu vrstu agresivnosti, tako da npr. nije prihvatljiv bilo kakav iskaz tipa "žene u kuhinju" ali je prihvatljivo da se žene hvataju za grudi bez pitanja. I u takvom okruženju, meni deluje sasvim jasno, žena koja neće da je hvataju za grudi, umesto da se oseća opušteno i među prijateljima, mora da razmišlja o tome hoće li neko od silne opuštenosti i drugarstva da sa gledanja pređe na pipanje. A to sa vremenom dovodi do, eh, naprasnog izbijanja nataloženog nezadovoljstva.


ali to je, po meni, potrebno prepoznati i izdvojiti, a ne sankcionisati blanket-manevrima

pa tu se potpuno slažem, ali izgleda da je problem što organizatori Riderkona nisu nešto vični tome da unapred razmisle o sprovođenju pravila koja na papiru zvuče lepo: "nulta tolerancija prema seksualnom nasilju" super zvuči, ali nisu stali da se sete kako "seksualno nasilje" nije tačno definisano, i kako i njihovi super drugari mogu nekog seksualno da ugroze, pa će se naći u nebranom grožđu. "Jao, nismo razmislili na vreme, ajde da menjamo pravilo!"

Konkretno u prethodnom slučaju Agasija, izgleda mi da su se tu opredelili za "seksualno nasilje" da prikriju "generalno društveno neprihvatljivo ponašanje" jer bi se onda digla frka kako se neprilagođenim gikovima uskraćuju ljudska prava na neprilagođenost.  

Čekajte, da li ja to dobro razumem da je opšteprihvaćena konvencija da alfa geek vata žene za grudi?


To mi liči na pravila koja služe tome da gikovske ženke drže bezbednim od sociopata sa strane, dok alfa gikovi mogu da rade šta hoće (uz eventualno no-no i pretnju prstom).

Quote from: angel011 on 30-07-2012, 13:20:12
Čekajte, da li ja to dobro razumem da je opšteprihvaćena konvencija da alfa geek vata žene za grudi?

Nije baš opšteprihvaćena, ali se radi na tome:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Source_Boob_Project

Ja sam samo srećan što nam se na Beokonima nije ovako nešto dešavalo, jer iskreno, tad ne bih znao kako da se postavim. A fandom je intrigantna stvar po pitanju društvenosti pojedinaca, nisu svi baš srećno prilagođeni... To sam zapravo najviše video dok smo držali knjižaru, tad stigneš da osmotriš i popričaš sa raznima...

Ne bih rekao da mi baš možemo da se poredimo sa Amerima glede konvencija i gikovštine uopšteno govoreći. Na osnovu fotki koje ste stavljali na forum, ne bih rekao da možemo da se poredimo ni sa Hrvatima. Sad, viđao sam i kod nas nekoliko provokativno obučenih koleginica - u manga/anima maniru - pa bi valjalo pitati njih da li su ikada imale problema zbog toga. Doduše, možda kod nas ni nema alfa gikova; možda su svi omega gikovi.

Ma nema to toliko veze sa tim kako osoba izgleda koliko sa tim šta je čovek istripovao -_-

Ne znam baš. Mislim da to ipak u nekoj meri zavisi i od izgleda i da nečiji izgled nekoj drugoj osobi može da posluži kao izgovor za ispoljavanje niskih strasti - naročito ako taj izgled ima neku opšteprihvaćenu poruku.

@Nightflier: kad sam rekla "alfa gik", mislila sam na nekog ko ima nekakvo ime, pisac, urednik, preCednik...


Što se izgleda tiče, nema to veze, meni je jednom prilikom rečeno da pokazujem svoje čari, a bila sam u maskirnim pantalonama i širokom duksu dugih rukava.


I koji to izgled ima opšteprihvaćenu poruku "možeš da me pipkaš po volji"?

Quote from: angel011 on 30-07-2012, 14:42:23
@Nightflier: kad sam rekla "alfa gik", mislila sam na nekog ko ima nekakvo ime, pisac, urednik, preCednik...

Aha. Pa dobro, nažalost - moja primedba i dalje stoji. Jedini "alfa gikovi" u tom smislu kod nas postali su "alfe" zahvaljujući negikovskim aktivnostima.

Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 30-07-2012, 12:05:30

Quote from: LiBeat on 30-07-2012, 11:31:14

e sad, probelm je sto je to u sustini bila opsteprihvacena konvencija koja je (nazalost) ostavljala nekakav prostor da se tu slepaju i sociopate koje su u okrilju takve konvencije mogle da lakse "utope" svoju psiho-socijalnu specificnost.

Da, to sam i ja primetila, a pazi, ako je samo na osnovu blogerskih izveštaja u poslednje dve-tri godine moguće primetiti da sociopate fandom, i posebno konvencije, doživljavaju kao "bezbedno mesto" gde mogu da se iskažu u punom sjaju (open source boob project i tako to) onda... e, meni je dosta jasnija ta reakcija GV. Jer onda ispada da fandom s jedne strane pokušava da bude napredan, tolerantan, politički korektan, a sa druge upravo tom tolerancijom podstiče jednu određenu vrstu agresivnosti, tako da npr. nije prihvatljiv bilo kakav iskaz tipa "žene u kuhinju" ali je prihvatljivo da se žene hvataju za grudi bez pitanja. I u takvom okruženju, meni deluje sasvim jasno, žena koja neće da je hvataju za grudi, umesto da se oseća opušteno i među prijateljima, mora da razmišlja o tome hoće li neko od silne opuštenosti i drugarstva da sa gledanja pređe na pipanje. A to sa vremenom dovodi do, eh, naprasnog izbijanja nataloženog nezadovoljstva.

Pa da, ali upravo u tome i jeste problem: mi ovde govorimo o free4all manifestaciji koja ne može (niti bi smela) da skenira sociopate i brani im učešće. To po meni i nije pitanje tolerancije nego prosto grupne bespomoćnosti u kontekstu izostanka legalizovane selekcije učesnika (pomalo kao i patnja na ovom forumu ). Znači, ostaje sankcionisanje kao opcija. Ali da bi ono funkcionisalo, potrebno je imati vrlo zdrave repere po pitanju procene i potrebe za sakcionisanjem, i vrste sankcija, i njihove primene, i same doslednosti. Ja postpuno stojim iza ovog konkretno sankcionisanja RW ponašanja ali ne mogu nekako da stanem iza kvalifikacije "sexual harassment" za Agasijevo zurenje, to mi zaista deluje preterano. Po meni, da bi se dubina nekog problema adekvatno procenila, potrebno je ne samo meriti aktivnosti transgresora, nego i raditi na uklanjanju te dimenzije histeričnosti iz same viktimizacije. Jer da se ne zavaravamo, koliko god imaš aktivne sociopate, toliko imaš i one daleko opasnije pasivno-agresivne, koji terorišu okolinu invertovanim agresijama glumljenja žrtve.

Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 30-07-2012, 12:05:30

izgleda da je problem što organizatori Riderkona nisu nešto vični tome da unapred razmisle o sprovođenju pravila koja na papiru zvuče lepo: "nulta tolerancija prema seksualnom nasilju" super zvuči, ali nisu stali da se sete kako "seksualno nasilje" nije tačno definisano, i kako i njihovi super drugari mogu nekog seksualno da ugroze, pa će se naći u nebranom grožđu. "Jao, nismo razmislili na vreme, ajde da menjamo pravilo!"

Konkretno u prethodnom slučaju Agasija, izgleda mi da su se tu opredelili za "seksualno nasilje" da prikriju "generalno društveno neprihvatljivo ponašanje" jer bi se onda digla frka kako se neprilagođenim gikovima uskraćuju ljudska prava na neprilagođenost.  

To je istina, vidi se da problemima prilaze "u hodu", što bi se reklo, bez neke konkretnije platforme. Šta ja znam, možda se drugačije i ne može. Treba ipak imati u vidu da se RCon oslanja na sub-kulturnu tradiciju konova uopšte, a to je zaista vrlo vrlo specifična unutrašnja mehanika događaja koja je sasvim dobro funkcionisala za pretodne generacije, dok se sadašnje očigledno ne snalaze u njoj baš najbolje. Mislim, stalkovanje omiljenim žanrovskih pisaca je bio sinonim za konvencije, pobogu, pa šta mislite da su fanovi (a pogotovo ženski) na ondašnjim konvencijama radili? Pročitajte neke od necenzurisanih biografija ondašnjih žanrovskih faca i sve će vam biti mnogo jasnije. E sad, naravno da se vremena menjaju i naravno da današnje generacije fanova (opet, pogotovo žena) nisu više u tom i takvom fazonu, ali onda se sa tim promenama RCon mora drugačije nositi, i mora obavezno uvesti konkretniju filtraciju učesnika.
Doduše, čak i da je takve filtracije u ovom slučaju bilo, RW bi opet prošao.... ne, ne, rešenje se ipak mora tražiti na drugačiji način.

Jonathan Strahan i Gary K. Wolfe podkast #110

Veoma zabavan podkast. ReaderCon-om se zanimaju u poslednjoj trećini emisije.

QuoteThis weekend Gary and I headed to the Waldorf Room to discuss thoughts on Kim Stanley Robinson's 2312 and SF set within our Solar System, World Fantasy Award Lifetime Achievement recipients Alan Garner and George R.R. Martin, and recent issues at Readercon.

http://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/2012/07/29/episode-110-live-with-gary-k-wolfe/

Hobbit films will be a trilogy Peter Jackson confirms

The Hobbit film project will be extended to a trilogy, director Peter Jackson has confirmed.

In a posting on his Facebook account, Jackson said: "It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, 'A tale that grew in the telling'."

The first instalment is due out on 14 December and the follow-up on 13 December 2013.

Rumours that a third film was in the works surfaced last week.

They followed Jackson's assertion that he wanted to shoot extra footage, just days after announcing the end of principal photography.

"It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made," he said in his Facebook statement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/19055342

Malo ovoga, malo onoga u vezi s Neal Stephensonom, ali najviše u vezi s njegovim Kickstarter projektom: Clang.

(Preporučam da pogledate zabavni video koji je umetnut u tekst.)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57481004-83/pen-and-sword-equally-mighty-for-science-fictions-stephenson/

Chris Wooding calls time on the KETTY JAY series by Adam WhiteheadChris Wooding has announced that the forthcoming fourth novel in the Tales of the Ketty Jay steampunk airship series, The Ace of Skulls, will be the final book in the series. Originally Chris had planned to write a series of self-contained adventures with a few continuing elements, but during the fourth book discovered that the number of continuing storylines he'd built up had become larger than he'd planned. He's chosen to end the story definitively rather than risk it sprawling out of control across numerous volumes.


No word on what his next project will be post-Ketty Jay, but Wooding is also working on a 'remastered' ebook version of his earlier Broken Sky series of anime-influenced short novels. Wooding will be self-publishing these books himself in Kindle and ePub formats, with a date still to be decided.

Good news on the Broken Sky situation, but the conclusion of the Ketty Jay sequence will be a sad day. Still, better for the author to finish it on his own terms rather than drag it out for years for financial gain.

Umro je Gore Vidal, autor jednog od najimpresivnijih SF romana ikada. RIP.

Osvrt Damien G. Walter-a na sajberbulizam. (ubacio je u tekst nekoliko interesantnih linkova, pa ako vas zanima overite i njih)

QuoteThe dynamics of aggressive reviewing are very simple. It attracts attention. From readers, and most of all from the author. A determined aggressive reviewer can systematically demand the attention of any given online community by working their way around the significant players in that community and picking as many fights as possible along the way. For a person who has nothing to contribute and no value to add then, a strategy of aggressive negative reviewing is a way of gaining a level of notoriety and a pseudo-status in a community. As there is no end to people's hunger for notoriety and status, there will always be people on the edges of every community who do this.

http://damiengwalter.com/2012/08/03/aggressive-reviewing-is-here-to-stay-learn-to-deal-with-it/

Evo još malo o ReaderCon-u:

Readercon board resigning

Eh, da, to se moglo očekivati.    Nakon jednog izrazito obilnog i huškačkog bloga Kat Valente, većina se trudi da se skloni iz centra kontroverze. Vijanje se sad uglavnom preselilo na tviter, to je bogomdan teren za efikasno mahnitanje, podesniji zbog svoje brzine i impakta i od blogova, da sad i ne pominjemo forume. 


Tako da, sve u svemu, ima i to svojih prednosti, pošto se tako lakše uočava ko u tom mahnitanju kosi a ko samo vodu nosi, jer svi oni kao da zaboravljaju da reklamiranje ipak može da rezultuje u dva ishoda, i to oprečna, što je vrlo praktično za one ljude koji upražnjavaju barem minimalnu selekciju po pitanju proze koju čitaju.   

http://readercon.org/publicstatement.htm

Uče...

Last night, NBC premiered an extended preview of  J.J. Abrams' new post-apocalyptic series premiering this Fall. Revolution is set in a near-future world 15 years after the world loses power.Check it out after the jump and tell us what you think...


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Tor Books has debuted a web promotion that will enable fans of John Scalzi and hisOld Man's War series to get a hold of the first chapter/episode, "The B-Team" a week before its December 2012 release.All you have to do is sign up here. That's it. You don't need to bake Old Man's War-themed cupcakes and mail them to Scalzi. Or write a sonnet set in the universe of the books. (Well, you could. No one's stopping you.) It's as easy as giving Tor Books YOUR SOUL email address so they know where to send the episode once the time comes.


Not sure what this is all about? Get the full rundown on The Human Divisionand its unique format here.

Hardin Valley Academy parent wants "Robopocalypse" taken off reading list!

QuoteKNOXVILLE (WATE) - A Knox County parent is concerned about a book students at Hardin Valley Academy are required to read this year.

The book is national bestseller "Robopocalypse," by Daniel H. Wilson.

Sam Lee is trying to get it removed from the required reading list because of the book's language.

Lee's son will be a freshman at Hardin Valley Academy this year. He says his wife was the first to notice the content of the book.

"She decided to read some of it so she could ask him questions and make sure he knew what he was reading," said Lee. "When she started reading we were shocked. We got one chapter in, there was all kind of inappropriate language for minors."

Lee says he is furious his son was required this type of book.


"This should had been brought to our knowledge before assigned and forced on our kids," said Lee, "That's my problem."

Lee personally started counting all the f-words in "Robopocalypse." By the time he got half-way through the book he had already counted 15.

Koji užas! 15! Pola knjige i 15!!!!!!!


http://www.wate.com/story/19243333/hardin-valley-academy-parent-wants-robopocalypse-taken-off-reading-list

Ma oni nisu normalni.


Kad sam prevodila Graceling, pogledam komentare za knjigu. I kaže jedna čitateljka da se knjiga promoviše kao za one od 14 godina i naviše, ali ona, eto, nije sigurna da bi dala tu knjigu četrnaestogodišnjaku jer se prilično blizu početka pominje bordel. I ima nekih naznaka seksa između dvoje glavnih junaka (ona ima 18 godina, on je koju godinu stariji). Užas, kako neko od 14 godina to da čita!


Pritom, glavna junakinja je od svoje osme godine obučavana da ubija i muči, i po nalogu svog ujaka tiranina je tokom 10 godina onima koji mu se zamere lomila ruke, odsecala prste, ubijala ih. I to ta čitateljka nije pomenula kao problem.

Si opazila krst?

Ona krstača oko vrata?

Otac je očigledno vernik.

A sad nešto sasvim drugačije!

QuoteForbes released its list of top-earning authors of 2011 today, and science fiction and fantasy authors dominate the list, taking nine of the 15 slots. The genre authors are:

1.   James Patterson: $94 million
2.   Stephen King: $39 million
7.   Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb: $23 million
9.    Suzanne Collins: $20 million
10. Dean Koontz: $19 million
11. J.K. Rowling: $17 million
12. George R.R. Martin: $15 million
13. Stephenie Meyer: $14 million
15. Rick Riordan: $13 million

http://www.locusmag.com/News/2012/08/top-earning-authors/

wrap up readercon.

Links:

   
• Readercon ConCom Statement
• Genevieve Valentine Readercon Posts
• Genevieve Valentine speaks on Episode 112 of the Notes from Coode Street podcast
• Captain Awkward Post

(poslednji link bolje preskociti, u pitanju je totalni ritard.)

ALL EDITIONS OF THE YEAR'S BEST SCIENCE FICTION TO BE RE-RELEASED BY ST. MARTIN'S PRESS IN ELECTRONIC FORMAT IN OCTOBER 2012


(Gardner Dozois has  posted on his facebook page that he has just released his long out-of-print anthologies The Year's Best Science Fiction, First Annual Collection and The Year's Best Science Fiction, Second Annual Collection to the Amazon Kindle store. And you can get them for just under $7 each. That's a steal.)

Kaže Elen Datlov:

SIRENS, ALIEN SEX, AND OFF LIMITS


The above three titles are being released as e-books by Open Road Media September 11th. I'm excited, not just to have these three books out in the world again, but because Open Road actually has a marketing plan. I will be followed around for September 28th and 29th by a video crew--I'm not sure exactly how it'll go (and I admit I'm nervous) but I plan to take a walk on the Highline and perhaps some other favorite places in my neighborhood and talk about the books.



http://ellen-datlow.livejournal.com/399708.html











skrumpčes! 

Quote from: LiBeat on 16-08-2012, 09:29:16



ALL EDITIONS OF THE YEAR'S BEST SCIENCE FICTION TO BE RE-RELEASED BY ST. MARTIN'S PRESS IN ELECTRONIC FORMAT IN OCTOBER 2012


(Gardner Dozois has  posted on his facebook page that he has just released his long out-of-print anthologies The Year's Best Science Fiction, First Annual Collection and The Year's Best Science Fiction, Second Annual Collection to the Amazon Kindle store. And you can get them for just under $7 each. That's a steal.)

odličnan potez za nas piracki naklonjene

... i nadamo se samo da ćeš se dobrostivo setiti svih onih poznanika čiji je pirate mojo skroz slabačak...   

ABC is developing the steampunk adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. Yes, really.



With one set of public domain heroes already settling in comfortably at Once Upon a Time, ABC is ready to give a pair of classic American characters a modern update. The network has announced that it is developing Finn & Sawyer, a detective TV series about Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn set in a steampunk version of New Orleans.

The Hollywood Reporter has revealed that Jason Richman and David Zabel (who produced ABC's Detroit 1-8-7) are developing the Finn & Sawyer pilot for ABC, which will revolve around the two troublemakers who meet again as 20-somethings and open up an investigation firm in retrofuturistic New Orleans.

As gimmicky as "steampunk Huck and Tom" sounds, the characters actually may be quite well suited for steampunk. Twain's novel Tom Sawyer Abroad was a play on Jules Verne-style adventure stories, and featured a mad professor and his absurd, futuristic airship. And Tom Sawyer had his own mystery story with Tom Sawyer, Detective. However, Twain was poking fun at the conventions of these genres, not merely using them as vehicles for his characters. If the pilot progresses, we'll have to see if the creators use Huck and Tom to their full satirical effect.

ABC Developing Tom Sawyer-Huckleberry Finn Drama [THR via GeekTyrant]

prica o uklanjanju Ann VanderMeer sa mesta WT urednika je daleko od zavrsene, kontroverza kuva i kljuca da je milina, pa se i NK Jemisin ubacila u volejbol:


This is how you destroy something beautiful.


This is how my Monday morning began:  with a slap in the face, courtesy of new Weird Tales editor Marvin Kaye.

If you haven't been following the "controversy" over author Victoria Foyt's self-published novel Revealing Eden, here's a good analysis of it with links to others.  I put air quotes around controversy in this case because there really isn't one.  On the one side of the discussion you've got the author and a handful of defenders — many of whom seem to be sockpuppets of the author herself — insisting that the book isn't racist because... something.  On the other side you've got several thousand readers saying OMG WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT RACIST MESS I JUST SAW.  That's not a controversy, it's an object lesson in How To Be Wrong On The Internet.

I haven't talked about the Foyt book much because I didn't care.  At the start of this I read the first chapter of the book out of curiosity (you can download a sample on Amazon); it's really not very good at all.  It also falls prey to the usual problems that occur whenever someone who's not very educated on how racism actually works — and who's clearly unwilling to learn more — tries to address it.  Foyt's characters adhere to every racial stereotype you can imagine, for example, in this supposedly not-racist book.  But poorly-written books are a dime a dozen, and so are racist texts; I saw no point in giving additional attention to this one versus any of the thousands of others.  I also tend not to negatively review other authors' works in general, since there's really no way to avoid the appearance of unprofessionalism and/or grudgewank in the process.  There are times when it's worthwhile to burn those bridges, but that one wasn't one of them.

This, however, is.

Some context here.  Weird Tales is a magazine with a long and checkered history.  I didn't follow it back in the old days when it was all! Lovecraftian! All! The time!, simply because I wasn't interested in that sort of thing.  In its more recent years it published some names I actually cared about, like Tanith Lee; I read an issue or two to sample it, but again — not my thing.  In 2007, however, Ann VanderMeer, Stephen Segal, and some other folks decided to revive the old Weird Tales brand and evolve it beyond its classic roots.  When their issues started coming out, I read a sample and was blown away by the fiction selections, the layout, the sheer collective beauty of the thing.  I started buying it, and I also immediately started sending story submissions there.  Most of them got rejected, although usually with nice notes encouraging me to keep trying.  And I did.  Then finally I sold one:  "The Trojan Girl", which was published in WT #357 in early 2011 with lovely, eerie illustrations by Rhiannon Rasmussen-Silverstein.  I was so proud, ya'll.

And then last year something bizarre happened.  New owners Marvin Kaye and John Harlacher bought the magazine — and promptly fired the team that had earned it its first Hugo award.  Okay.  That was stupid, but businesses do stupid things all the time.  The new folks made a vague effort at damage control afterward, so I chose to hope that the new ownership would get its shit together and get back to the business of putting out a high-quality speculative magazine.  I didn't have a subscription — I buy on the newsstand, 'cause I actually like browsing newsstands — so it didn't do me any harm to wait and see.  They'd bought a magazine with an invaluable reputation that had been years in the building, after all; I figured no one would be stupid enough to piss that all away.

I was wrong.  They've shat it away.  And pissed on the steaming pile afterward.

It's more than the fact that the editor has chosen to introduce the revamped magazine with a diatribe against evil anti-racists, or evil people with no sense of irony, or something.  It's more than the stunningly poor judgment that he displays by hitching his magazine's new applecart to this spavined old horse. It's also the fact that they're going to be publishing the first chapter of this hugely problematic book in Weird Tales.  What the hell is that about?  In all the furor over this book, no one is defending it as high-quality literature.  It's not even "weird", in either the old-school pulp sense or the VanderMeer-era modern sense; it's a slushpile-stock discrimiflip with implausible science and banal writing.  This is a book whose author self-published it — perhaps because the publisher of her previous novel saw what a mess it was — and then promoted it via self-reviews on HuffPo and a bunch of vanity awards.  Now I'm wondering whether she paid WT to publish this excerpt.  Maybe she even bought Kaye's editorial.  Or maybe I'm overthinking this.  Maybe Kaye just thought it was a great idea to start his new regime with a bang.  Any publicity is good publicity, right?  Right?

How much does a good reputation sell for, I wonder?  Hope Kaye got a good price.

All my pleasure and pride at having been published in WT is gone.  Goes without saying that I won't be submitting there again, ever, but at this point I'm ashamed to have my name associated with the magazine at all.  And that pisses me off especially, because something I really cared about has been destroyed.  I was willing to give WT's new owners the benefit of the doubt after the regime change; sometimes change can be a good thing, after all.  But this editorial, and this decision to publish such poor-quality fiction on misplaced principle, makes it clear that WT's reputation is now meaningless. By this gesture Marvin Kaye hasn't just slapped me in the face, he's slapped every author the magazine ever published, every hopeful author who's submitted during and since VanderMeer's tenure, every artist whose illustrations ever graced its pages, and every fan who voted for WT to win that Hugo.

Slap me and I'll slap you back.  I can't revoke my Hugo vote and I don't want to; Ann and the gang justifiably earned that award.  I'm just sorry the award is now attached to a magazine that's clearly going to be shit from here forth.  WT #357 is a print magazine and nothing can un-print it, but here's what I can do:  I can do my damnedest to make sure the new owners don't profit in any way from my work.  They're still selling back-issues of the magazine, and the story I published there has thus far only been reprinted in audio form.  So on the thin chance that anybody reading this was thinking about buying a back-issue in order to read my story in it, no need.  I'm reprinting it here now for free.  Enjoy.

ETA: The publisher has backtracked on WT's brave commitment to racism, go figure.  Damage done, I say.

Daughter of ETA: Artist Rhiannon Rasmussen-Silverstein has graciously given me permission to repost her art with The Trojan Girl. Yay!

Sister of Grand-niece of ETA: WT has taken down Kaye's initial statement. (Good grief, don't these people have any clue how not to handle an internet controversy?) Here's a cached version.

Friend of Cousin of Oh Fuck It: Jeff VanderMeer weighs in, with some deep-twitch-inducing insider info on how this debacle began.

Interesantno kako se ova cela ujdurma oko Weird Tales-a poklopila (manje-više) sa Lavkraftovim rođendanom.

How to Lose an Audience

(via Caught in the Dreaming)

Gollancz has announced a major two-year publishing project to release  the entire science fiction and fantasy back catalogue of Michael  Moorcock in both print and eBook editions, as well as a substantial  amount of his literary fiction.

Starting in February 2013  , the programme will bring back all of  Moorcock's genre works including Hawkmoon, Corum, Von Bek, the Eternal  Champion books and, of course, his most famous creation, Elric. At the  same time Gollancz will also publish Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius novels, The Brothel in Rosenstrasse and other non-genre fiction.

The newly published books are definitive editions, carefully prepared with the author and his long-standing friend, bibliographer and editor, John Davey.  The new versions will be particularly important to fans as they will present the Elric stories in a consistent internal chronological order together with associational material never previously published.

The books will be published by Gollancz as print omnibus editions with a matching livery.  Individual eBooks will be published by SF Gateway, Gollancz's ground-breaking online SF&F digital library of classic genre fiction.  The programme begins with the publication of the last three Elric novels:  Daughter of Dreams, Destiny's Brother and Son of the Wolf.

"I am extremely pleased to be continuing a relationship with Victor Gollancz which began nearly fifty years ago," said Moorcock.  "This new programme will make available many of my books which have been hard to obtain in any form and will now be available in both print and electronic form in newly revised definitive editions prepared by myself and my long-standing friend and editor John Davey."

A mi kukamo na nas fandom (koji i ne postoji )

Cheryl Morgan on This Is Not "Fandom".

evo jedne za Perina

The "Star Wars" universe just got a whole lot more interesting! Kevin Hearne, author of the Iron Druid Chronicles, has signed on to write a "Star Wars" novel.  And not just any "Star Wars" novel.  He'll be working within the greatness of the original trilogy!  He will be tackling the time period between "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back", an interesting time period since Luke has barely brushed the surface of what the Force can do.  That has me giddy. Kevin is one of my favorite writers at Del Rey Books right now, his tales of Druid Atticus O'Sullivan always entertaining and some of the best urban fantasy around. Since Kevin really can't talk specifics about the "Star Wars" project, I decided to ask him three simple questions:

Shawn Speakman: Tell fantasy and "Star Wars" fans the big news.
Kevin Hearne: Del Rey noticed that I'm kind of a "Star Wars" nut and asked me if I'd like to write a book for them focusing on Luke Skywalker, set betwixt Episode IV and V. Well, I was seven when the first movie came out and I grew up with this stuff. I couldn't say no—I mean, I was playing with the original action figures and making up new adventures all the time. I'm talkin' "PEW! PEW! PEW!" and "I can't shake him!" and "Copy Gold Leader!" and attempting to sound like James Earl Jones when I hadn't even reached puberty yet. So yeah, I'm thrilled to be on board and my nerd cred has skyrocketed amongst my friends.

SS: Will you be visiting Skywalker Ranch? Meeting George Lucas?
KH: Well, no, they haven't invited me, but that goes to show you how smart they are! They probably realize that I would just slobber on everything. Maybe it would be safe if they bought a whole lot of plastic sheeting first. Or they could hook me up with one of those drool suction things they have at the dentist.

SS: What's your favorite "Star Wars" movie and why?
KH: "The Empire Strikes Back!" It has it all! The wampa! Hologram Ben Kenobi! Admirals failing Vader for the last time! An awesome giant space worm lurking in an asteroid! Lando's mustache! Freezing people in carbonite, which we all secretly wished to do to our enemies! And the immortal line, "Size matters not," which gave hope to a planet full of insecure men! I know every movie has great stuff in it, but for me, ESB has the perfect blend of action, wonder, and humor.

I have a ton more questions for Kevin but they will have to wait a while.  Will any of the supporting cast from the end of "A New Hope" be with Luke?  Han?  Chewie? Her worship?  Will Vader be in it?  We will have to wait and see! If you haven't read Kevin's work yet, do yourself a favor and do it. Start with Hounded.  You will see he is perfect to write a Luke Skywalker tale. More when we know it!

Cast Your Vote: SciFri Book Club September Pick  




The Science Friday Book Club will meet again on September 21, 2012.  We've decided to tackle another classic this month, but we need your help making our final selection.           We've narrowed it down to:

   
• 2001: A Space Odyssey, Arthur C. Clarke
• Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
• Flatland, Edwin A. Abbott
• The Andromeda Strain, Michael Crichton

What do you want to read? Cast your vote below. We'll announce the winner on the show this week. (One vote per reader, please.)