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Quote from: Бата Животиња on 10-07-2012, 21:12:30
ja sam vjerovatno potpuni uljez na ovoj temi pošto nisam pogledao ni minut Star Treka ni u kakvom obliku. Vrijedi li to gledati uopšte, pošto je SW realno smeće.

Epizoda iz TOS koji ja predlažem da pogledaš je Plato's Stepchildren iz treće sezone.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708443/

Vrlo zanimljiv naslov 

Pogledao sam Plato's Stepchildren, brate, ne samo da ovo nema veze sa Platonom, već su oni maltene obučeni kao Rimljani koji dolaze par stotina godina nakon Platona. Ako bih morao negdje da ih uglavim onda bi to bilo među antičke bogove, a nikako Platonovce.

2001 - Star Wars VS Star Trek - The Rivalry Continues

2001 - Star Wars VS Star Trek - The Rivalry Continues.avi

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/527926_10150979521889823_858697431_n.jpg

SW zloće kao deca.

http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-wars-villains-imagined-adorable-tykes.html

VENDORS - EPISODE 1 (STAR WARS ANIMATED SERIES)

Iggy Pop kao Vorta.

Iggy Pop Star Trek DS9

ништа ти не ваља та слика перине, не видим је

Battlestar Galactica Vs Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs Babylon 5

Quote from: дејан on 13-08-2012, 11:23:32
ништа ти не ваља та слика перине, не видим је

^    хвала!

Quote from: дејан on 15-08-2012, 10:42:02
^    хвала!

Nema na čemu Poslao mi drug porukom na fejsu, znači valjao sam se od smeha pola sata

Neko mi je ukrao biciklo!

Sad ozbiljno!

Star Wars vs. Star Trek: The Starships Compared [Infographic]

(via BitRebels)


http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/star-wars-vs-star-trek/


aka: http://cdn.bitrebels.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Star-Wars-Star-Trek-Infographic.jpg

Čemu suze? 

Više sam naklonjen trekerizmu. Pa zato 

Onda treba da budeš srećan što Trek univerzum ima realnije cifre. U SW šalju brod u trenu na drugi kraj galaksije, i imaju razne milione megatona i gigavata, a storm truper ne može blasterom da pogodi Vukija ni kad leži.

A vrhunsku ratnu masinu mozes da sapletes pletenim konopcima i smrskas je balvanom kao konzervu...

@ mac: Šteta što gigavati imaju svoj uticaj u oba univerzuma, dok vukija u ST svetu nema. Ali zato ima pregršt "crvenih mundira", a njih ne moraš ni da gađaš da bi krepnuli. 

@ Berserker: E dobro, onda još ima neke šanse za Krka! On je vičan uništavanju nadmoćnih neprijatelja "štapom i kanapom".

Neko je turio na FB 

Deset stvari koje - najverovatnije - niste znali o ST:TOS-u (via io9)

To Boldly Go - Season Three (the story of "The Kiss")

http://www.youtube.com/embed/hukEGgixOSg?start=641&end=1021

Nisam ni trekijevac ni vorsovac, ali realno gledajući sasvim je logično zašto Trekijevci imaju više fanova. Prosto duže traju i imaju više franšiza. Trekijevci su krenuli 60-tih godina prošlog veka, znatno ranije nego vorsovci. Vešto su uspeli kada je se već originalna franšiza počela pretvarati u prah, da je osveže nekim novim filmovima i novim serijalima - TNG, Deep Space 9, Generations... od kojih sam ja ispratio samo delimično TNG.

Uvek sam i na rivalitet između trekija i vorsovaca gledao i sa neke socijalne strane. Treki autori su narodna ekipa (daleko da su sirotinja raja) a vorsovci su režimski ljudi (prebogata Lukas produkcija).

Ako gledamo po zvezdama koje su lansirale ove 2 rivalske ekipe, realno gledajući morali bi da stavimo tačku na jedno ili dva imena.
Kod Trekija je najveća zvezda postao već dobrano sredovečni Patrik Stjuart, koji se posle potvrdio nizom kvalitetnih uloga u nabudženim produkcijama.  Mogao bi i Vilijema Šetnera da dodam, mada ipak prednost dajem Patriku.
Kod Vorsovaca je to bez sumnje Harison Ford, koji je nadmašio po popularnosti bilo kog glumca iz oba serijala.

Mi smo prilično dugo na ex-yu prostorima bili prilično ograničeni sa ponudom ovih franšiza, koja se svodila na redovne filmove i poneki strip. Pisani romani su bili prilično retki i tek bi pravi fanovi i ko je bio u mogućnosti nabavljao romane, figurice, i sav ostali asesoar. Naravno tu su se pojavile i kompjuterske i konzolne igre.
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Kao zaključak: Mislim da je i od Trekija i od Vorsa bolja Galaktika.   

Odakle ti da ima više Trekijevaca? Ja nešto ne bih rekao...

Kao prilog prvoj poruci u ovoj temi odakle je cela ova priča i krenula, a malo i uz pomoć googla i lične opservacije ova dva serijala koju sam i izneo u poruci.

Može biti, al ne mora značiti, što bi rekao neko. 

Inače mislim da na prostoru ex-yu je više vorsovaca, ali globalno u svetu, pogotovo u Amerikama je više trekija.

U svakom slučaju oba serijala su i te kako obeležila SF žanr ali na žalost i ubila mnoga kvalitetnija ostvarenja, koja su živela samo par sezona ili ni toliko. Kao jednu od propuštenih prilika da se razvije u dugačak serijal navodim recimo divnu SF kaubojštinu - FIREFLY.

David Brin: "Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists

(via SALON)

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In teaching us how to distinguish good from evil, Lucas prescribes judging by looks: Villains wear Nazi helmets. They hiss and leer, or have red-glowing eyes, like in a Ralph Bakshi cartoon. On the other hand, "Star Trek" tales often warn against judging a book by its cover — a message you'll also find in the films of Steven Spielberg, whose spunky everyman characters delight in reversing expectations and asking irksome questions.
Above all, "Star Trek" generally depicts heroes who are only about 10 times as brilliant, noble and heroic as a normal person, prevailing through cooperation and wit, rather than because of some inherited godlike transcendent greatness. Characters who do achieve godlike powers are subjected to ruthless scrutiny. In other words, "Trek" is a prototypically American dream, entranced by notions of human improvement and a progress that lifts all. Gene Roddenberry's vision loves heroes, but it breaks away from the elitist tradition of princes and wizards who rule by divine or mystical right.
By contrast, these are the only heroes in the "Star Wars" universe.
Yes, "Trek" can at times seem preachy, or turgidly politically correct. For example, every species has to mate with every other one, interbreeding with almost compulsive abandon. The only male heroes who are allowed any testosterone are Klingons, because cultural diversity outweighs sexual correctness. (In other words, it's OK for them to be macho 'cause it is "their way.") "Star Trek" television episodes often devolved into soap operas. Many of the movies were very badly written. Nevertheless, "Trek" tries to grapple with genuine issues, giving complex voices even to its villains and asking hard questions about pitfalls we may face while groping for tomorrow.  Anyway, when it comes to portraying human destiny, where would you rather live, assuming you'll be a normal citizen and no demigod? In Roddenberry's Federation? Or Lucas' Empire?

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Having said all that, let me again acknowledge that "Star Wars" harks to an old and very, very deeply human archetype. Those who listened to Homer recite the "Iliad" by a campfire knew great drama. Achilles could slay a thousand with the sweep of a hand — as Darth Vader murders billions with the press of a button — but none of those casualties matters next to the personal saga of a great one. The slaughtered victims are mere minions. Extras, without families or hopes to worry about shattering. Spear-carriers. Only the demigod's personal drama is important.
Thus few protest the apotheosis of Darth Vader — nee Anakin Skywalker — in "Return of the Jedi."
To put it in perspective, let's imagine that the United States and its allies managed to capture Adolf Hitler at the end of the Second World War, putting him on trial for war crimes. The prosecution spends months listing all the horrors done at his behest. Then it is the turn of Hitler's defense attorney, who rises and utters just one sentence:
"But, your honors ... Adolf did save the life of his own son!"
Gasp! The prosecutors blanch in chagrin. "We didn't know that! Of course all charges should be dismissed at once!"
The allies then throw a big parade for Hitler, down the avenues of Nuremberg.
It may sound silly, but that's exactly the lesson taught by "Return of the Jedi," wherein Darth Vader is forgiven all his sins, because he saved the life of his own son.


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Remember the final scene in "Return of the Jedi," when Luke gazes into a fire to see Obi-Wan, Yoda and Vader, smiling in the flames? I found myself hoping it was Jedi Hell, for the amount of pain those three unleashed on their galaxy, and for all the damned lies they told. But that's me. I'm a rebel against Homer and Achilles and that whole tradition. At heart, some of you are, too.
This isn't just a one-time distinction. It marks the main boundary between real, literate, humanistic science fiction — or speculative fiction — and most of the movie "sci-fi" you see nowadays.


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http://www.salon.com/1999/06/15/brin_main/

Zar nije Vejder bio pod imperatorovim mističnim uticajem, primoran da mu služi?

Ma kaptanica Džejnvej bi pokosila te džedaje samo tako 

Are you ready for Star Wars Reads Day?

October 6, 2012 has been designated Star Wars Reads Day, a multi-publisher initiative that celebrates reading and Star Wars, with events taking place in bookstores and libraries across the United States. (Alderaan is supposed to be participating, but they could not be reached to confirm this...)


LUCASFILM LTD. AND PUBLISHING PARTNERS ANNOUNCE STAR WARS READS DAY


Bookstore and Library events throughout the US to be held October 6, 2012

SAN DIEGO, CA., July 13, 2012 – Lucasfilm and its publishing partners announced today a national Star Wars Reads Day to be held this October 6, 2012. Star Wars Reads Day is a multi-publisher initiative that celebrates reading and Star Wars. On October 6, events will take place at hundreds of bookstores and libraries across the United States. Participating publishing partners include Abrams, Chronicle Books, Dark Horse, Del Rey, DK, Scholastic, Titan Magazines, and Workman.

Officially participating bookstores and libraries will receive a Star Wars event kit (free of charge). The kit includes: an exclusive Star Wars Reads promotional item (25-50 per event); raffle prizes; promotional giveaways; a packet of event ideas, reproducible activity sheets and trivia; and more. The events will have the PR and marketing support of the eight participating publishers and Lucasfilm.

If your store or library would like to participate in Star Wars Reads Day on October 6, please sign up here: http://tinyurl.com/swrd2012

Ko o čemu, ono narod o sledeće dve trilogije smeštene u SW svet:

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/star-wars-episode-7-is-about-luke-skywalker/

The serious Star Trek fan in your life — even if that means you — should know about this gorgeously designed new gift book Star Trek Federation: The First 150 Years by David A. Goodman, which celebrates the 150th anniversary of the founding of the United Federation of Planets.

Packed with goodies, this lavishly illustrated volume "chronicles the pivotal era leading up to Humankind's First Contact with Vulcan in 2063, the Romulan War in 2156, the creation of the Federation in 2161, and the first 150 years of the intergalactic democracy up until the year 2311″. It covers a multitude of "alien species, decisive battles...technology...field sketches, illustrations, and reproductions of historic pieces of art from across the Galaxy"...and includes even more goodies, all packaged in a pedestal display with lights and an audio introduction by Admiral Hikaru Sulu. Oh my!

From the Amazon description, product features include:

   
• Pedestal display featuring electronic lights and sound (13.5" x 13.5" x 4")
• Audio introduction by Admiral Hikaru Sulu
• 176-page hardcover book with four-color illustration throughout
• Envelope containing 5 removable artifacts
• Over fifty excerpts from key Federation documents and correspondence, Starfleet records, and intergalactic intelligence

Want a closer look? Check out these hi-res images (some of them exlusive to SF Signal) after the jump...

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Sources have confirmed the "Star Trek Into Darkness" filmmaker will helm the next "Star Wars" movie, the highly anticipated installment in the landmark franchise scheduled to reach theaters in 2015.
PHOTOS: 'Star Wars' at the box office
[Updated: 10:30 a.m. Jan. 25]: The news first broke on The Wrap website Thursday afternoon.
Abrams, who previously had denied that he would be involved with the project, is now in a position of creative control over the two most beloved franchises in the science-fiction universe: "Star Wars" and "Star Trek."
Abrams rebooted "Star Trek" for the big screen in 2009 to much acclaim and rousing boxoffice receipts, with the film collecting upwards of $385 million. His follow-up, "Star Trek Into Darkness," is due in theaters May 17.
His decision to direct a "Star Wars" film, however, throws into question his future with that Paramount franchise. Scheduling commitments most likely would preclude him from directing a potential third "Trek" movie.
"Star Wars: Episode VII" will be written by Michael Arndt, the Oscar-winning screenwriter of "Little Miss Sunshine" and "Toy Story 3."
Simon Kinberg and Lawrence Kasdan have been tapped to write "Star Wars" projects as well, but it's unclear whether their scripts will be for future episodes or for films outside the official trilogy.
Kasdan co-wrote the screenplay for the "Star Wars: Episode V — The Empire Strikes Back."
The upcoming trilogy of new films was announced Oct. 30 when the Walt Disney Co. went public with its plans to acquire Lucasfilm for $4.05 billion.
George Lucas is expected to serve as a creative consultant on the new movies.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2013/01/24/j-j-abrams-set-to-direct-star-wars-episode-vii/#/0

Iz dokumentarca Trekkies


Trek

Aaaw, i trekiji su ljudi

Quote from: zakk on 13-02-2013, 20:17:35
Aaaw, i trekiji su ljudi

Jesu, jesu, i te kakvi! Naime, odgledao sam i Trekkies 2 (a verovatno znate zašto nas se taj dokumentarac dotiče), pa ću da vam ponudim nekoliko šotova iz filma. Nažalost, nisam ga našao na tjubetu, pa čak ni onaj deo od sedam minuta koji mi je bio najinteresantniji. A vi se slobodno javite ako vam je šta poznato ili ko poznat...

U prvom planu je Relja Trajković iz Photon Tide, iza njega je mislim mlađahni Ivica Milarić



Ok, ABN...




Gleda desno - Draža Igoršanac, art-anima.com

Ima u nekom Emitoru i izveštaj sa TrekNSa, išla je gomila ljudi iz BG (before my time) al nemam to na kompu... :/

TREK>NS on Vimeo

http://news.bme.com/2013/02/13/back-in-the-nineties/

I think there are very few people who worked in a piercing or tattoo studio in the late 1990s that don't remember chatting with their coworkers at the beginning of the summer season and saying something to the effect of, "well, this is going to be the last big summer." Piercings and tattoos were so unbelievably popular that it was impossible to believe that the "fad" couldn't possibly last any longer. Almost all of us thought that one year soon we'd be remembering the nineties as "the good old days" back when mods were still popular.

I was watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine today and was reminded of those days because of a funny scene that takes place in the episode "Past Tense" (season three, episode eleven) when some of the characters time travel back to the San Francisco of 2024. One of the people who travels back is Jadzia Dax, a trill, who like all trill has characteristic leopard-like spots running down each side of her body from head to toe.



In 2024, humans did not yet know about non-terran civilizations, so Jadzia had to come up with an excuse for her spots. The scene between her and a human she'd met that was helping her out (Christopher Brynner), was quite amusing –

*****

Christopher Brynner: You know, those are very unusual.

Jadzia Dax: Oh, you mean my tattoos?

Chris: It is amazing work! Where did you have them done? Japan?

Jadzia: How did you guess?

Chris: Well, I used to have one myself... A Maori tribal pattern — used to go all the way down my arm. I got it in highschool, back in the 90s, just like everybody else. Of course I had to have it removed. Well... you know how it is. To get the government contracts, you have to look like all the rest of the drones. So I guess that makes me a sellout.

*****

Because I've made it my mission to binge watch every Star Trek episode of every series, I've been enjoying the body modification references, both direct references like the one above, and indirect ones like all the different characters and races with tattoos — I thought about making a post cataloging it or adding it to the BME encyclopedia, but then had a bit of a reality check and realized it would be of interest to me and maybe... three other readers.

 Trekeri su šmekeri. 

Namco Bandai has released a brand-new explosive Star Trek: The Game trailer for a game that seems like it'll be almost as good as the movie.
This latest Star Trek game trailer (titled "Salvation") showcases the co-op gameplay with Kirk and Spock following the discovery of a powerful new technology.
We get to see a few of the game's new and very alien-looking enemies, as well as different locations; the trailer also includes weapons and abilities. Our fave? The always-awesome Vulcan nerve pinch. We can never get tired of THAT. In fact, we can't wait to try it out for ourselves. (In the game, not in real life, obviously.)
The game features an original story by BAFTA (the equivalent of the Emmys for TV or the Oscars for films) Award-winning writer Marianne Krawczyk, who is working closely with Star Trek movie writers and producers Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman.
Ready for some awesome Star Trek action?

http://www.blastr.com/2013-2-13/check-out-action-packed-new-trailer-star-trek-game

Quote from: LiBeat on 14-02-2013, 08:32:54
Trekeri su šmekeri. 

Star Wars Call Me Maybe

Shatner i Hadfield


Captain Kirk Chats Up Countryman on Station

Napokon neka korist i od lightsaber-a!


http://forum.rebelscum.com/t948694/#post15875880

Posle Space Janitors-a (koja je relativno zabavna vebserija):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxuT_r9rCeA&list=SP7atuZxmT954qKicLcYtpk20SRDZaKCs2&index=1



eto nama i Death Star PR-a:


Death Star PR - S1 Ep 1: Alderaan Reasons

A do juče/prekjuče, Vulcan je bio na trećem/četvrtom mestu!

QuoteThanks to Shatner's suggestion — and the ensuing support from fans and Trekkies — Vulcan is currently in the lead by a healthy margin, followed by Cerberus and Styx.

Have Trekkies taken over the voting on the naming of Pluto's new moons?

(via io9)