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Blizi se release filma. Pogledajte trailer na http://dobanevinosti.blogspot.com/2005/08/kiss-kiss-bang-bang.html

kanda je Tuck otkupio KISS KISS BANG BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 ali kada je pochetak bio distribucije???    

U Americi izlazi 5. oktobra, ne znam kad je kod nas, ali to je Warnerov film i Tuck sigurno ima opciju da ga izbaci. Raspitacu se...

Hej je'l taj film ima veze sa isoimenim CrossGen stripom?

Nema. Jedini non-movie property koji je nadahnuo film jeste proza Brent Hallidaya i definicija 007 od pokojne Pauline Kael upisana u naslovu.

SRPSKI RELEASE DATE: 9. mart 2006, sto znaci da verovatno ide na FEST.

...sve je duza lista mushtuluka za ranjenog glasonoshu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!            

RUMOR HAS IT, KISS KISS BANG BANG na Cinemaniji. A Cinemanija od 27. oktobra do 2. novembra!

evo malo droolovanja sa AICN:

TORONTO: Shane Black's KISS KISS BANG BANG screens! Is the verdict Kiss Kiss or Bang Bang?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a handful of reviews for Shane "Lethal Weapon/Long Kiss Goodnight/Monster Squad" Black's KISS KISS BANG BANG. I'm sure we'll be getting the good word from our main man in Toronto, Anton Sirius, very soon, but these three reviews just add on to the pile of stellar word on this flick. Sounds fun as all hell! I can't wait to see it!
Hi Harry,

Rolotomasi here, and I'm feeling jinxed. Last movies I reviewed for you at the Toronto Filmfest were THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE and NINE QUEENS. I submitted that to you on September 10, 2001. Since then I've been a little bit wary of getting back into the reviewing game, but I decided, four years later, I'm gonna dive right back in, no worries, and hope nothing bad happens tomorrow,so here goes.

What a pleasure it is to have Shane Black back! KISS KISS BANG BANG joyfully resurrects the L.A. film noir in grand, 21st Century post-modern style. Black knows his story is the stuff of cheap paperback fiction. Unlike most of Hollywood's movies which seem to self-destruct every five minutes, KISS KISS BANG BANG self-deconstructs every five minutes (Hey, I haven't written one of these in 4 years, cut me some friggin' Slack!). Robert Downey Jr. gives great narration, like an ironic Sam Spade, who often stops the action to digress into flashback, structural reference, fantasy, and even commercial breaks.

The first 30 minutes of the movie is almost entirely about establishing the main characters. The 3 leads are all great vessels for Black's whip-sharp dialogue. The plot doesn't kick in for a while. Something about dead bodies. I'll let you guys figure it out, while I talk about the elements.

Downey as Harry, the outsider from New York, mildly amused, mostly abused by L.A. Downey's great at these smart, intense comedies, and he knows that he doesn't need to overplay a scene to put it over the top. What Harry goes through would cause most people to totally lose it, but Downey smartly underplays the insanity.

Val Kilmer, the hard-bitten realist, Gay Perry. Perry the P.I. sees Hollywood for what it is and manages to remain knowingly above it all. Kilmer and Downey work at the same, understated, "this is happening so how do we deal with it" level. They have a great buddy cameraderie, which they indulged in before the screening with a little routine for the audience.

Michelle Monaghan plays superbly off of Kilmer and Downey. I won't go on about her, but I will say that she's lovely to look at, pulls off Black's dialogue naturally, and adds dimension and heart to the small town ingenue looking to make it big in L.A.

And L.A. is the fourth major character in this story. Black is a guy who has made a career of lovingly mocking L.A. and Los Angeleans (Angelenos?), witness DIE HARD, LAST BOY SCOUT, LAST ACTION HERO, FORD FAIRLANE, all movies that took potshots at the left coast. Black shoots L.A. almost entirely at night, capturing insanely excessive parties (There's a X-Mas party that Black couldn't have possibly imagined), a predatory bar scene where conversations stop on a dime, and every man is an (insert ethnic group) version of (insert movie star), and wisecracking thugs, trying to be the screenwriters for their own little movie.

The action's great, the atmosphere and camerawork are all solid (Joel Silver's first film without any helicopters, so he's obviously on a budget), John Ottman's score is strong, and the Saul Bass-esque title sequence starts the movie off with just the right Noir touch. The movie's fast, it's fun, it plays across all ages (The middle-aged women all around me were howling with laughter, along with everyone else). Hopefully Warner will give this the release it deserves.

I'm off to sleep. Tomorrow it's TIDELAND, THE PIANO TUNER OF EARTHQUAKES, and BANLIEUE 13, if I can keep my eyes open. I need a caffeine I.V.!

Shane came back! We should all be thankful! Again, call me RoloTomasi (And Talkbackers can call me Planty McPlant or something if it makes them feel like big boys)

Cheers!

Thanks, man. I wish I was up there watching TIDELAND with ya'! Let us know what you think of it! Now for the next one!
To all the fine folks at AICN,

Please find attached my review of Shane Black's KISS KISS BANG BANG. If you'd like to run it, please credit me as Tommy Five-Tone. Oh, and Mori? In case I didn't mention it earlier, congratulations to you and your wife on the birth of your son.

*****

No mincing words on this one - I fucking loved KISS KISS BANG BANG. This quick-witted detective thriller is definitely in my top three for 2005 so far, with Robert Downey Jr excellent (if miscast - I'll explain why later) and Val Kilmer ruling your ass and mine.

The real hero here, of course, is Shane Black, making his directorial debut. The LETHAL WEAPON and LAST BOY SCOUT writer's got a smooth directorial style but his writing is a thing of beauty and a joy forever. This may a little too offbeat and unabashedly R-rated to set the box office on fire (but it only cost $15 million, so it'll probably do okay), but it will absolutely kill on DVD. This is the kind of movie that's just going improve with age.

Starting with a nifty flashback scene that deftly introduces two of the main characters, the story kicks in with Downey Jr's Harry Lockhart at a swanky Hollywood party. Via voiceover - delivered by Downey Jr and written by Black that plays like a match made in smart-mouthed snark heaven - Harry explains how he ended up in L.A. A petty thief in NYC, he was robbing a toy store to get a Christmas present for his niece when the job went south, his partner got shot by an irate bystander and the only way to dodge the cops was to crash a casting call for a detective movie. Bleeding from a gunshot wound and reeling over his friend's death, Harry gave an impromptu performance that stunned the producers and got him shipped out to the West Coast.

Once Harry's in Los Angeles, the producers hook him up with Kilmer's Perry Van Shrike (a.k.a. Gay Perry...yes, as in Gay Paree), a private eye who moonlights as a consultant on crime movies. The wicked smart, mighty tough and openly homosexual Perry reluctantly takes Harry under his wing for a couple of days of P.I. training. Naturally enough, the timing of Harry and Perry's team-up just happens to coincide with the start of a case involving kidnapping, suicide, murder and millions of dollars worth of financial malfeasance.

Harry's other Hollywood connection is Harmony Faith Lane (Michelle Monaghan, who plays like the slinkier, sassier, sexier little sister of GREY'S ANATOMY star Ellen Pompeo), a jaded would-be actress all too aware of the upcoming expiry of her use-by date. Harry and Harmony grew up together in the same small town - she was a cheerleader who fucked pretty much everything in pants, he was the nice guy who offered her a shoulder to cry on while secretly carrying a torch for her. When they meet again, Harmony - believing Harry is a real P.I. - asks for Harry's help in tracking down her little sister, who has come to L.A. in search of the man she believes is her real father. (He's not, and it's a key part of the plot.)

There's a lot to take in, and there are times when you think Black has basically thrown any semblance of a plot overboard to simply enjoy presenting the rapid-fire banter between his lead characters. But the writer-director's a little more clued-in than that, and everything eventually resolves itself in a logical and satisfying way. But it's a pretty dense storyline and it does occasionally feel like Black has bitten off more than he chew. Have faith, though.

Black's plotting is sturdy but it's his characterisation and particularly his dialogue that sets him apart. I still get a thrill out of Mel Gibson's little LETHAL WEAPON monologue about his time as a sniper in Vietnam ("There's eight, maybe 10 guys in the world who could have made that shot...") and still get a laugh out of Samuel L. Jackson's explanation for showing up late to one of THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT's gunfights ("I'd have been here sooner but I was thinking up that ham-on-rye line"). It's Harry and Perry who get the lion's share of the great lines in KISS KISS BANG BANG, with Downey, Jr's narration delivering gem after gem and Kilmer's bone-dry witticisms rarely failing to please.

As well, Black shows good instincts as a director, playfully messing around with flashbacks and chronology, staging his action sequences cleanly and coherently and displaying killer timing in some of his gags. (A cameo appearance from some very unexpected icons in a hospital room near the end of the film is fucking hilarious.) By the way, KISS KISS BANG BANG's opening credit sequence - with its obvious nod to the master of credits, Saul Bass - is a nice touch.

If I have any issue with the movie, it's that the humour edges towards the misogynistic and homophobic. (In a Joel Silver production written and directed by Shane Black? Why, I'm shocked.) Some of Harry's dialogue - one monologue in particular - about the psychology of West Coast women suggests that Shane has had some unpleasant experiences on the Hollywood dating circuit. (That said, if even a quarter of what I've heard about love and lust in L.A. is true, Black is probably quite astute in his judgement.) And the constant needling about Perry's homosexuality borders on overkill, even if most of it is very funny in a politically incorrect kinda way.

Of course, the movie attempts to counter this by making it clear that Harmony and Perry are tougher, smarter and braver than Harry, who's something of a novice, something of a screw-up and somewhat unsuited to action-hero antics (as a funny scene immediately following some tough-guy talk from Harry proves). And this is kind of why the casting of Downey, Jr is problematic.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great role for a great actor - it really suits his sense of humour and there are some very strong dramatic moments that Downey, Jr plays perfectly. (The first time Harry shoots someone is a clear standout for me.) But for the movie's conceit that the gay guy and the chick are more adept at the heroics than the leading man, it perhaps needed a more traditionally macho star. It's the whole BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA thing - you expect Kurt Russell to be the hero, only to realise he's Dennis Dun's sidekick. By the same token, KISS KISS BANG BANG's subversion of action movie stereotypes might have worked a little better if Harry had seemed a bit more like Bruce Willis's Joe Hallenbeck from THE LAST BOY SCOUT: somewhat smart and self-aware but mostly a gung-ho man's man type of hero.

It also doesn't help that Downey, Jr - who's played gay roles convincingly and intelligently in the past - doesn't seem quite right when it comes to conveying Harry's low-level homophobia. So while I wouldn't trade the terrific chemistry between Downey, Jr and Kilmer, I couldn't help but recast Harry in my head. It was tough, but I think Ben Affleck would actually do a great job of portraying a guy who's smart enough to come up with the sardonic quips in Harry's narration but not enlightened enough to be 100 per cent comfortable around a gay guy. (If REINDEER GAMES and GIGLI did nothing else, they convinced me that Affleck could balance bright and dim quite successfully...it's no mean feat.)

Casting Affleck would also clear up the issue of the age-difference between Downey, Jr and Monaghan. Harry and Harmony are meant to be the same age but it's obvious that he's a little older than her, despite Downey, Jr's boyish looks. It's not a deal-breaker but it's a minor irritant.

Extra mention must be made of Kilmer, who puts just the right amount of spin on his lines, making even the most throwaway comment a treat. And because I'm hardly the most enlightened chap myself, extra mention must be made of Monaghan drunkenly stripping out of a Santa's Little Helper outfit - it's pretty damn sexy, let me tell you. (But then drunken women removing their clothing has always been my Achilles heel.)

Despite a couple of flaws, KISS KISS BANG BANG is incredibly enjoyable from start to finish. It reinforces what tremendous talents Downey, Jr and Kilmer are (neither of these guys needs a 'comeback' role in my eyes but anything that boosts their profile is okay by me), it introduces a talented - and let me reiterate just one more time, hot - ingénue in Monaghan (who's since landed a role in MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3) and, best of all, it gets Shane Black back in the game. It's been far too long since this guy's distinctive voice was heard by audiences, and hopefully he'll be able to maintain the momentum created by KISS KISS BANG BANG.

Swinging on a star,

Tommy Five-Tone

*****

Thanks, man. Now for one last review. Short and to the point, but gives a little look at the talent that dazzled the audience before the film!
Harry,

I just got back from the North American premiere screening of KISS KISS BANG BANG. Prior to the show Joel Silver introduced the more conservatively dressed Shane Black, Michelle Monaghan, Robert Downey Jr., and Val Kilmer. Each person had a few kind words to say about the film and each other with Downey and Kilmer doing a brief comedy bit. The stars didn't hang around long enough to watch the film with us but Black was there throughout the screening.

KISS KISS BANG BANG does indeed deliver the goods. Black is in fine form here; his script a pure comedy-thriller gold. The dialogue is razor sharp and chock full of great, great one-liners (sorry, Harry, I don't wanna spoil any of it). Downey Jr. and Kilmer just nailed the banter and comic timing. And, of course, there's Monaghan with a fantastic performance. Audience reaction was very, very positive.

I have a few films to see over the weekend before REVOLVER has it's world premiere here at the 30th Toronto International Film Festival.

KISS KISS, BANG BANG


Dir Shane Black w/ Robert Downey Jr., Val Kilmer. 103 min. Sep 8, 9:45pm, Ryerson; Sep 10, 10am, Paramount.

Any guy (and it is a guy thing) who spent his adolescence parroting lines from Shane Black's hyperbolically macho scripts from the first two Lethal Weapon flicks, The Last Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight will savour the cheerful vulgarity of Black's directorial debut. Robert Downey Jr. is Harry Lockhart, a small-time East Coast thief who lands in the middle of a Hollywood murder mystery. Taking the inevitable buddy slot, Val Kilmer plays a bisexual private dick who goes by the name of "Gay Perry" and threatens bad guys with lines like "It's not good cop/bad cop, this is fag and New Yorker -- you're in a lot of trouble." Black's signature brand of wise-ass jive is easier to enjoy than the movie's erratic shifts in tone and meta-fictional cheek (didn't he learn his lesson with The Last Action Hero?).

...evo jedne vesti za koju nisam siguran gde bi joj bilo pravo mesto!
...kako pishu 'vechernje novosti',izvesni Vladimir Rajchic(1974,Pec),bivshi student FPN koji je uz to svirao gitaru,a tokom mrachnih devedesetih otishao u Chicago,osmislio je akcionu romansu 'CONFLICT' koja ce pocheti da se snima januara 2006.(svetska premijera u leto 2006. u Beogradu!),a koja ce zbliziti Srbiju i SAD.Rajchic,koji u svojoj glumachkoj biografiji ima  ubelezena pojavljivanja u serijama 'zapadno krilo'.'24 chasa','chari' ali i epizode u filmovima 'mis tajni agent','devojka od milion dolara',ali i 'kiss,kiss,bang,bang'(otud i ovaj post na ovom topicu),osmislio je prichu o zabranjenoj ljubavi albanke i srbina,zaboravljenom polubratu u americi i nestaloj formuli razornog nuklearnog oruzja... a koja bi se snimala po beogradu,novom pazaru,SAD,kanadi,turskoj,italiji i cheshkoj!u glumachkoj postavi osim rajchica,kao sigurne mozemo da ochekujemo dzoa esteveza,dzona nobla,klaudiju kristijan(koju,nadam se,svi pamtimo iz the hidden,arena ili maniac cop 2,ali i filmova adama rifkina(otuda se ovaj post mogao naci i u okviru topica o skrajnutim divama),a koju smo smo mogli videti i u pristojnoj adaptaciji priche henryja jamesa-'the haunting of the hell house'(shto ovaj post delimichno preporuchuje i za topic o celuloidnim duhovima)),a od domacih tu ce biti-ljubisha samardzic,dragan bjelogrlic,dragan nikolic,bora todorovic...i sada stizemo do onog najzanimljivijeg-prilichno je izvesno da ce glavnu zensku ulogu tumachiti JESSICA ALBA(barjaktarka jesenjeg SCG bioskopskog repertoara-nakon-'the fantastic four',napokon stize 'sin city',a neshto kasnije i 'into the blue',chemu treba dodati i neprimetni 'honey' pochetkom ove godine).
...kako je sve ovo objavljeno u 'vechernjim novostima' iz kojih se moglo saznati i da je natacha atlas saradjivala sa mnogim muzicharima medju kojima je 'amnesty international',kao i da je rosario dawson krshni zavodnik koga smo imali prilike da gledamo u 'aleksandru' ili da se pesma 'dare' da chuti u hit animiranom filmu 'gorillaz'...konsultovao sam imdb gde je CONFLICT predstavljen pod oznakom 'pre-production',rezirace /rezirao bi ga izvesni john ireland,a nema pomena o jessici albi(mada nije ni navedeno ko bi glumio mladu albanku!)!
...neki ljudi naprosto imaju vishka vremena...starting with moi!        

Quote from: "ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas"u pristojnoj adaptaciji priche henryja jamesa-'the haunting of the hell house'

Lapsus, profesore: James + Matheson baš i nisu iz iste lige igrači

Kad bolje razmislim, Mathesonov roman se zove samo HELL HOUSE, što će reći da si uspeo da u čorbu ubaciš i Sh. Jackson! BRAVO!    

..bez zelje da otvaram polemiku nimalo u vezi sa topicom,ipak sledi ispravka ispravke-ja nisam ni napisao da je narecheni film(the haunting of hell house) adaptacija ISTOIMENE priche henryja jamesa,jere on to i nije-ovde govorimo o ekranizaciji "THE GHOSTLY RENTAL"!

Kritike su perfektne.

Bozanstven film. Second coming. Sve po redu.

Iako stoji da je ovo ubedljivo najbolji film dosadasnje Cinemanije to ipak ne znaci da je remek delo...cini mi se da je Black mal'ko pregoreo cekajuci da konacno snimi nesto pa je povremeno preterivao.

Film kao da je sniman da bi bio kultan pa zato to nije...ovo je u odnosu na Poslednjeg skauta ono sto je Kill Bill u odnosu na Petparacke price..

ipak, jaka 4+

Da, film je sasvim, sasvim solidan, ali definitivno ne predstavlja neko otkrovenje u žanru krimi komedije.
Akcija pri kraju je bila odličana - ako se posmatra u stripovskom ključu.

U mehanickom smislu KKBB svakako ne donosi inovacije. Ono po cemu se izdvaja i dobija na znacaju je prelazak rampe u emotivnom smislu. Za razliku od hladnokrvnosti filmova ovog tipa, KKBB je vrlo emotivan, na tragu najboljih Blackovih buddy hemija.

Ja ga licno ne bih poredio sa LONG KISS i LAST BOY SCOUT samim tim sto su ono bili filmovi drugog profila u svakom smislu. I svakako remek-dela...

Jako simpaticno i opustajuce, sa puno vrcavih dijaloga. Svakako najzabavniji film koji sam odgledao na Cinemaniji.

KKBB veoma ostavlja utisak da zasluzuje jos jedno gledanje pre davanja konacne ocene. Ne bih samo voleo da se posle tog gledanja ispostavi da ga zapravo i ne zasluzuje, kao sto tvrdi Ebert u svojoj kritici

Ja nisam osetio neki posean naboj kada su u pitanju emotivni odnosi izmedju likova. Bila je tu neka polu nabudžena ljubavna priča. i to bi otprilike bilo sve.

KKBB je toliko pretrpan, da vas prilikom prvog gledanje uhvati nesvestica, što onemogućava validan sud. Biće zanimljivo ponovo pogledati film & podvući linmiju.

Btw, špica je plagijat SIN CITY-ja.

Spica je klasican Saul Bassovski pristup dizajnu, a SIN CITY je sam po sebi cist eklekticizam delom baziran na ilustracijama pulp romana...

Fanove Sin Cityja ce mozda zanimati:  muzicka tema "Marv" (koja se dobrim delom ponavlja i u glavnoj "Sin City" muzickoj temi) je ustvari apsolutni plagijat "Born Bad" sa albuma Bone to Pick od Gone Jackals. "Born Bad" je posluzila i kao tema Lucas Artsove bajkerske igrice "Full Throttle", koja i samom hardboiled atmosferom dosta podseca na Sin City

No dobro, ko je pa poverovao u ono "composed by Robert Rodriguez"?

One of the Best Movies Out Needs Your Help!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... I don't do this very much, because usually a film doesn't really need it. Most of the really good movies out there end up with all the support they need, but sometimes... just sometimes there's a movie out there that wants to start out small and build and build and build to a big national release - and it just needs help. Films like L.A. CONFIDENTIAL and IRON GIANT come to mind. Films that just are not the typical box office machines that for whatever reason... Usually terrible marketing... but, sometimes it's just difficult marketing - the film just doesn't find an audience and you end up with a few crazed film lovers like me grabbing ahold of folks to say, "PAY ATTENTION, YOU'RE LETTING A GREAT ONE PASS YOU BY!" Today, we have such a case.
KISS KISS BANG BANG is dying at the box office. It has wildly enthusiastic reviews all over the place, though "the style" seems to throw a few folks. But folks, how many fucking films even have a style these days? A genuine signature style? Look at the local listings, search your recent memory... When's the last film you saw that made you cough laughing, or that actually turned you on? Robert Downey Jr and Val Kilmer are outstanding in this film. Just absolutely great! And Michelle Monaghan - there's a mirror scene in this movie and an outfit she wears that will absolutely drive you Avery-esque. That's... if you see it. Without your support, this movie dies this weekend. That's it. Game over. This is an audience film, absolutely electric with a full house. I'm just afraid most of you will never get the chance you and this film deserves to find one another. If you're lucky enough to have it playing near you or close enough to drive to - check it out NOW, not Monday or next Wednesday, but now.

Detaljan intervju sa Shane Blackom.

Ovog vikenda...

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang WB $785,842/ ukupno u US: $2,107,243

Quote from: "crippled_avenger"Ovog vikenda...

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang WB $785,842/ ukupno u US: $2,107,243

To je prilično bedno.

Ja sam razočarana filmom.
Scenaristički deluje kao osiromašeno-konfuzni Tarantino koji ne ume da hoda već se ispomaže štakama, al' mu ni takvo hodanje ne ide... Gluma je, na trenutke, zadovoljavajuća, sve ostalo... e, pa, odavno nisam videla uverljivi realni lik na filmu koji izgleda kao da je ispao iz crtaća Diznijeve produkcije, one varijante kada imamo glavnog junaka i gunđalicu pratioca koji stalno izvodi neke polu-uspešne štosove, koji su, možda, smešni amerikancima, dok meni mogu samo da izazovu upalu očnih mišića pri prevrtanju istih.
Film koji izgleda kao da je pravljen da ostane upamćen i, pritom, jako umara jer vrišti za tim u svakoj sceni.
Previše isforsirano. Samo na trenutke šarmantno.

jel ima neko subtitle za KKBB? engleski.. ne kapiram zasto ne mogu da ga pronadjem ni na jednom subtitle sajtu...

Morticia, avatar ti je extra!

Da osvežim malo topik jer: od 12. januara KKBB na repertoaru domaćih bioskopa.  

evo da ga i ja rezurektujem odlomkom iz mog osvrta na Sinemaniju koji izlazi u PRESSINGU:

Najzad, upadljivo najbolji film prikazan na Nektar-Sinemaniji  -zapravo, jedini koji se može nazvati nektarom u moru boze – bio je KISS KISS BANG BANG Šejna Bleka. U režijskom debiju scenariste najpoznatijeg po serijalu SMRTONOSNO ORUŽJE može se naći isti onaj smisao za (često crni) humor i nadahnuto-vickaste dijaloge, za apsurdne situacije i vratolomno-komično-preterane akcione scene, ali – što je posebno važno- isti onaj smisao za harizmatične likove i njihove međuodnose koji su zapravo srce filma...
...BANG BANG odiše intimnošću i posvećenošću kakvi se češće nalaze (ili bi bar tako trebalo) u tzv. umetničkim, nezavisnim filmovima, pa je tim veće osveženje naći ove kvalitete u jedoj pametnoj žanrovskoj persiflaži.

Ponosim se time sto se moj blurb koristi u kampanji za KKBB!

Oh.  
Ispade da sam jedino ja kivna na film (Bevc i Kunac polu kivni) dok ste svi vi ostali svršili u gaće, možda i više puta... Ali su i momci ispali gentlemeni pa me nisu «sasekli» tastaturalnom oštricom. U to ime ću ponovo odgledati film.
Ovoga puta ću se potruditi da zaboravim sve okačene hvalospeve i pozitivne kritike jer znaju da pomere sliku o filmu. Kada mi neko kaže «odličan, izvanredan film» ja očekujem odličan film x deset, a dobijem samo odličan i eto ti ga sad... sindrom «tresla se gora, miš abortir'o».

(...)

Kunac i Bevc su momci u godinama kad se i ovako sve te genitalne stvari slabije realizuju a kamoli jos `u gace`, kao kod nas `vecitih tinejdzera`...

Nizak udarac Cripple, ispod pojasa...

tja, nisam promenio misljenje, film je ok, ali ne i odlican, u stvari, sada sa distance mi najvise smeta to sto izgleda kao da ga je pravio za svoje drugare (ima on svoje Cripplove, u to sam siguran) i prebudzio ga posvetama i fazonima za sebe i uzi krug posvecenika.

I jos nesto, film ima jako los trejler, moze se reci da je to jedan od postenijih u poslednje vreme jer ne razbacuje najbolje fazone u reklami ali se ta odluka pokazala fatalnom na box office-u.

U svakom slucaju grehota je sto je Kronenberg zaradio lepe pare i nominacije za svoje bezocno slihtanje Holivudu, a Blek ce se opet nacekati da snimi nesto.

KISS KISS BANG BANG svakako spada u red `filmova s greskom` ali to je legitimna estetika. Fassbinder je celu karijeru izgradio na takvim filmovima.

Ako je Šejn Blek scenariom dosegao svoje ranije domete, a režijom dostigao Donera i T.Skota, film je vrlo dobra zabava.

Teško može biti više od toga, jer ni jedan deo Lethal Weapon serijala nije briljantan, a ni mnogo hvaljeni (od strane crippla) "skaut". Manje od toga, tj od prethodnih "uradaka", vrlo lako.

"Najbolji film na sinemaniji" i ne znači tako puno, zar ne?

Quote from: "crippled_avenger"Kunac i Bevc su momci u godinama kad se i ovako sve te genitalne stvari slabije realizuju a kamoli jos `u gace`, kao kod nas `vecitih tinejdzera`...

Kako se ono kaže... bez starca nema udarca, dok ko sa decom spava upišan se budi...

Alal vera Morti! Iskustvo je cudo. Ono i iz tebe progovara, zar ne?

uuuuu do jaja alal vera na kvadrat!

Morty, svaka ti je zlatna.

Da se vratimo na film. KKBB je prosečan film u nadprosečnom pakovanju. Nažalost, ni najlepši ukrasni papir ne može da zamaskira činjenicu da je poklon drugorazredan. Kada se sve oduzme i sabere, KKBB zavređuje jedno gledanje: ali ništa više od toga. Kad strgnete prelepi svetlucavi papir u rukama vam ostane kičasta "ming" vaza kupljena kod Kineza za 95 dinara.

Quote from: "crippled_avenger"Kunac i Bevc su momci u godinama kad se i ovako sve te genitalne stvari slabije realizuju a kamoli jos `u gace`, kao kod nas `vecitih tinejdzera`...

pitam se zašto svako, ali svako infantilno stvorenje obavezno laska sebi kako je zapravo samo 'tinejdžer u srcu.' Eto. Ne znam ni otkud to ni zašto to ali – uvek to kažu, uvek.

A ne znam samo zašto misle da će ikome pucat' pertla za njihov srčani sadržaj...  

hmm... srčani sadržaj... to bi moglo da bude zanimljivo za razgledanje    

libe, šta kažeš na frazu "dete u srcu"?  

bolje dete u srcu nego dete u krevetu (mada, glede ovoga, ima i suprotnih mišljenja...)

rekao bih da je kriplova ezoterična izjava bila već dovoljno mazohistički-samobičevalačka, i da nema potrebe da mu dolivate soli na rane (osim ako on to sam nije ovim tražio?)

Quote from: "Ghoul"rekao bih da je kriplova ezoterična izjava bila već dovoljno mazohistički-samobičevalačka, i da nema potrebe da mu dolivate soli na rane (osim ako on to sam nije ovim tražio?)

Ma kakvo dolivanje soli, ja samo trolujem topik.

A glede ezoteričnih izjava - ako nakalemim gorecitiranu na prekjučerašnju o gikovima, stvari postaju jasnije:
Bejbi kripl nekog muva.
Taj neko izgleda čita forum pa bejbi Kripl muva posredno i u šiframa.
Taj neko definitivno nije Endži (uf! laknulo mi) a izgleda da nije ni Morticija.
Nisam ni ja. (udarati kod mene na materinski instinkt, aj min... rili... )
Prilično sam sigurna da nisi ni ti.  
Ni đejk.
Ni Kunc... ni Bevc...
Krug se smanjuje...

Quote from: "libeat"Krug se smanjuje...

Sofija?

Bladi el!

Sofija je upravo ono što bejbi Kripl treba, zar nije tako, Tiresijo?  

molio bih da se topik o KKBB ne pretvori u topik CRIPPLOVA ZENIDBA. osim ukoliko to nije neki promotivni stunt kojim se na topik privlace useri koji inace ne bi kliknuli na link KISS KISS BANG BANG.

kad je rec o muvanju, libeat ocigledno ne zna ko je Cripple pa ocekuje da on povremeno ima covekolike potrebe i osecanja. Cripple je svoj zivot odavno razduzio i postao je changchehovski Web ronin. medjutim, jos je zanimljivije to opste nepoverenje u Crippla gde se stalno trazi podtekst u njegovim porukama. ljudi mi iz nekog razloga nista ne veruju. zasto je to tako? molim vas ne odgovarajte na to pitanje na ovom svetom topiku, ako vam je zapelo idite na Crippled Corner...

KKBB u bioskopu 12. to je jedino vazno...

a ko je ovde prvi počeo, a?
ko je ovde prvi skrenuo sa kiskis na bangbang, a? a?
smartipenc.