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Barbarin

Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

Tex Murphy

Quote from: mac on 18-04-2013, 11:41:30
Quote from: Barbarin on 18-04-2013, 10:02:38
Ko ima fejs može da vidi ovo, nažalost sa youtuba je skinut vrlo brzo nakon stavljanja

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2

Nema ovde misterije. Sivi objekat je bio delomično prekriven crvenom tkaninom, i vidi se sivo da štrči. Dok je čovek prolazio ispred objekata crvena tkanina je oduvana u pravcu kretanja čoveka i ostao je samo sivi objekat.

Односно био је жут. Тј. мијењао је боју.

Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Barbarin

Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

Ghoul

More Explosions Rock Boston; Gun Battle in the Streets

There have been explosions and reports of hand grenades in Watertown, MA, just outside of Boston, when two men hijacked a car after shooting and killing a MIT Police officer.

At 10:48 this evening, gunshots were heard outside of MIT's Stata building. MIT's student newspaper, The Tech, reported that an MIT police officer had been shot, and taken to Massachusetts General Hospital, where he died.

Suspects then hijacked a car and have engaged police in a confrontation involving guns and explosives in the Watertown area.

There is no indication yet whether the suspects are the ones behind the Boston Marathon bombing on Monday.

http://gawker.com/5995034/active-shooter-incident-at-mit-mit-police-officer-shot
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Джон Рейнольдс

Дакле, чечени. Симпатично. Изгубио бих опкладу, на памет ми не би пало. Биланс, кажу, следећи - један руски шиптар мртав, други руски шиптар рањен, али гле како се све лепо скоцкало - у врат па ем није сигурно да ли ће остати жив, ем није сигурно да ли ће после моћи да говори и каже где, ко, како и шта. Јер, наравно, посла нису чиста.

Русија је још пре коју годину упозорила ФБИ на то да везе с радикалним исламистима највероватније постоје, али ФБИ наравно није ни прстом мрднуо. Добро, нека се Амери сами баве чињеницом да је тај тзв. "радикални ислам" највећим делом америчко чедо. Рани куче да те уједе (не мислим на најн илевн, то је био инсајд џаб).

Али комедија тек сад почиње, мада не знам хоће ли она два смарача са Comedy Centrala имати муда да се с овим спрдају. Наиме, сад је један сенатор запенио да оног закланог прогласе за enemy combatanta, што у пракси значи да га, иако је грађанин САД (мала тривија коју ће, надам се, "анализирати" њу ејџ конспиратолози - један од браће, можда обојица, је добио/ли су држављанство на годишњицу најн-илевна), неће отерати на званичан суд за грађане, већ ће моћи да буде утамничен у америчком концентрационом логору Гвантанамо а што је још важније, све информације из њега моћи ће да буду извучене не оним вешто замишљеним техникама саслушавања које гледамо по полицијским серијама, већ добрим старим мучењем.

Уколико овај буде могао да прича кроз покидани врат или ако не рикне ових дана.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Ghoul

Brand New TV News Anchor's First Words On-Air: "Fuckin' Shit!"

Tonight was A.J. Clemente's first night at the anchor desk for Bismarck NBC affiliate KFYR. Things did not go well for A.J.

xrofl

http://deadspin.com/brand-new-tv-news-anchors-first-words-on-air-fuckin-476700466
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

pokojni Steva

Borba protiv vlasti, nadzornih kamera i brze hrane postaju mentalni poremećaji.
Kontroverzni DSM-5 još nije niti izašao u javnost, a već je uzburkao duhove. Trinaest godina nakon posljednje verzije trebalo je APA-i (Američka asocijacija psihijatara) da izda novi 'Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' (Dijagnostički i statistički priručnik za mentalne poremećaje) i s brojnim u najmanju ruku čudnim dijagnozama dali su povoda analitičarima da sve prozovu novim korakom u implementaciji tzv. 'Novog svjetskog poretka'.
http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/svijet/84049-psihijatrijski-prirucnik-dsm-5-borba-protiv-vlasti-nadzornih-kamera-i-brze-hrane-postaju-mentalni-poremecaji.html
Jelte, jel' i kod vas petnaes' do pola dvanaes'?

Ghoul

rejnoldse, reaguj!

bostonska nameštaljka - u slikama!

(upozorenje ženama - ima nekolko baš gadnih slika)

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 18-04-2013, 02:18:18
Дакле, локално стезање диктатуре. Ако.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Джон Рейнольдс

Уосталом, дириговано пласирање података о унапред инсценираним догађајима уопште не мора да буде тако прецизно. Опоненти такозваних "теорија завере" (а заправо теорија интереса) покушавају да представе тзв. "заверенике" као неку бројну хај-тек екипу, где све иде ко под конац, све у секунд, итд. Што је глупост, наравно. Рецимо:

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE

На 2:19 појављује се кајрон да је WTC7 пао, а лепо се види да иза репортерке још увек гори. Наравно, овакве ствари остану затрпане у медијској хуци. Сви ти "напади на Америку" заправо су мађионичарски трик и то оне простије варијанте - мађионичар нечим упадљивим скреће пажњу док ради оно што хоће да одради.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Meho Krljic

Američka retardiranost čoveka ponekad rastuži.

Congress tries to reset science grants, wants every one to be "groundbreaking"

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If lawmakers get their way, research like recent Higgs findings could disappear.

Due to Congressional rules, the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology had to choose new leadership this year. At the time, we opined that almost any choice would be a bad one. The Democrats had been neglecting the committee, leaving three seats unfilled, while the Republicans filled their seats with people who were openly hostile to a number of fields of science such as evolution and climate research. Late last year, the House leadership made its intentions clear, attempting to crowdsource a search for federal research grants that people considered wasteful spending.
Now, Congress is following through on that effort. Earlier this month, the House committee held hearings that featured the National Science Foundation (NSF) director and the chair of the board that oversees the science agency. Again, grants made to social scientists were held up as examples of wasteful spending. The committee's new chair, Lamar Smith (R-TX), used these to suggest that "[w]e might be able to improve the process by which NSF makes its funding decisions."
Rather than targeting only grants in the social sciences, Smith is reportedly preparing a bill that would revise the criteria for all grants funded by the agency. According to ScienceInsider, the bill would require the NSF director to certify that every grant met the following conditions:

       
  • The grant must "advance the national health, prosperity, or welfare, and... secure the national defense by promoting the progress of science"
  • It must also be "the finest quality, groundbreaking, and answer questions or solve problems that are of utmost importance to society at large"
  • The grant should not be "duplicative of other research projects being funded by the Foundation or other Federal science agencies"
The last of these is a reasonable requirement, but it already exists. Both the NSF and National Institutes of Health have rules that are intended to block new grants that have previously received funding. Mistakes may sometimes get made—it's hard to keep track of who's being paid to do what across multiple federal agencies—but there's already an effort to limit this.
The other two requirements, however, completely misunderstand both basic research and the role of the National Science Foundation. Basic research is largely about exploring the unknown; by definition, it's almost impossible to tell which areas of research will end up being groundbreaking or have commercial applications. And the NSF is specifically tasked with funding basic research and science education.
It's informative to contrast these rules with a current example of NSF funding. Prior to last year, the NSF had no idea whether the Higgs boson really existed or whether it would behave like the one predicted by the Standard Model. Yet the foundation put millions of dollars into the Large Hadron Collider and the support infrastructure behind it. So far, the Higgs is looking rather mundane, and it may never have commercial applications or implications for society at large. The bill, as structured, would appear to mean the end of funding for that kind of work.
This isn't the only recent example of Congress altering the rules for research, either. Last month, Tom Coburn (R-OK) sent a letter to the director of the National Science Foundation, in which he listed a series of grants funded by the agency were a waste of taxpayer money. Shortly thereafter, Coburn added an amendment to a funding bill that would block the ability of the NSF to fund political science unless the grant can be certified as "promoting national security or the economic interests of the United States." That amendment was passed as part of the budget.
The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has also come under fire from Congress. The House Energy and Commerce Committee is investigating the large public communication budget given to the National Cancer Institute, and while they had him on the Hill, House members grilled NIH director Francis Collins about a paper by researcher Stanton Glantz. Glantz studies public health and tobacco regulations, often using documents obtained from cigarette makers during lawsuits. In this paper, he concludes that the political infrastructure that helped organize the Tea Party movement was developed originally to oppose tobacco legislation.
Needless to say, that did not go over well with the members of that organization within Congress.
With the possible exception of the budget allocated to PR and public awareness at the National Cancer Institute, most of these issues come back to an uneasiness about the research itself. People either don't like it or don't understand why peer reviewers rated it so highly, so they assume it is either an error or a waste of money. In this case, their response seems to be to try to intervene in the process of grant approval, something that's normally left to expert peer reviewers.


Ghoul

REJNOLDSE, REAGUJ!

Most Dangerous Book in the World




    In this shocking expose, investigative researcher and author S. K. Bain explores the inconsistencies, coincidences, and historical precedents of the events of September 11, 2001, and reconstructs an occult-driven script for a Global Luciferian MegaRitual. Bain argues forcefully that the framework for the entire event was a psychological warfare campaign built upon a deadly foundation of black magick and high technology. The book details a view of the sinister nature of the defining event of the 21st century and opens a window into the vast scope of the machinery of oppression that the author asserts has been constructed around us.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

дејан

...barcode never lies
FLA

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: Ghoul on 07-05-2013, 04:51:43
REJNOLDSE, REAGUJ!

Most Dangerous Book in the World




    In this shocking expose, investigative researcher and author S. K. Bain explores the inconsistencies, coincidences, and historical precedents of the events of September 11, 2001, and reconstructs an occult-driven script for a Global Luciferian MegaRitual. Bain argues forcefully that the framework for the entire event was a psychological warfare campaign built upon a deadly foundation of black magick and high technology. The book details a view of the sinister nature of the defining event of the 21st century and opens a window into the vast scope of the machinery of oppression that the author asserts has been constructed around us.

Луциферијанци!  :shock:

А пре неки дан сам се коначно упустио у гледање дугачког документарца с неким наводно совјетским двоструким шпијуном / пребегом / богтепиташта који тврди да је рушење обављено мини-атомским бомбама постављеним још осамдесетих. Најн-илевен постаје буквар за препознавање false flag акција. Ево, на пример, нисам морао ни да стигнем до масовног ритуала и црне магике - довољно је запазити да се "угледни истраживачки новинар" потписује иницијалима.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Meho Krljic

Breaking: OBAMA IRS SCANDAL WIDENS – Conservative Activists and Businesses Targeted, Too ...Update: 90 IRS Employees Involved 
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It is now clear that the Obama IRS was targeting a much broader array of conservative groups than just Tea Party organizations.
McClatchyDC reported:
A group of anti-abortion activists in Iowa had to promise the Internal Revenue Service it wouldn't picket in front of Planned Parenthood.
Catherine Engelbrecht's family and business in Texas were audited by the government after her voting-rights group sought tax-exempt status from the IRS.
Retired military veteran Mark Drabik of Nebraska became active in and donated to conservative causes, then found the IRS challenging his church donations.
While the developing scandal over the targeting of conservatives by the tax agency has largely focused to date on its scrutiny of groups with words such as "tea party" or "patriot" in their names, these examples suggest
the government was looking at a broader array of conservative groups and perhaps individuals. Their collective experiences at a minimum could spread skepticism about the fairness of a powerful agency that should be above reproach and at worst could point to a secret political vendetta within the government against conservatives.
UPDATE: Nearly 90 IRS employees were involved in the scandal – so far.


Ghoul

OBRATI PAŽNJU!

Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You

A jury in Bexar County, Texas just acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of charges that he murdered a 23-year-old Craigslist escort—agreeing that because he was attempting to retrieve the $150 he'd paid to Lenora Ivie Frago, who wouldn't have sex with him, his actions were justified.

Gilbert had admitted to shooting Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve 2009, when she accepted $150 from Gilbert and left his home without having sex with him. Frago, who was paralyzed by the shooting, died several months later.

Gilbert's defense argued that the shooting wasn't meant to kill, and that Gilbert's actions were justified, because he believed that sex was included as part of the fee. Texas law allows people "to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft."

The 30-year-old hugged his defense attorneys after the "not guilty" verdict was read by the judge. If convicted, he could have faced life in prison. He thanked God, his lawyers, and the jury for being able to "see what wasn't the truth."

http://gawker.com/texas-says-its-ok-to-shoot-an-escort-if-she-wont-have-511636423
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Zvuči potpuno bizarno. Očigledno se radi o zakonu koji ti dozvoljava da pucaš na nekoga ko ti u mraku krade auto na parkingu - što je za mene takođe očigledno varvarski - ali eto, američki sud ima veliku slobodu tumačenja. Da ne pominjemo da eskort konvencionalno NE podrazumeva snošaj. Tragično.

Ghoul

PRAVEDNIK KOJI JE RAZOTKRIO SILOVATELJE I NELJUDSKI ŠLJAM MOŽE DA DOBIJE DALEKO VEĆU ĆORKU OD SAMIH ZLIKOVACA - ZATO ŠTO IH JE RAZOTKRIO!  :x :P xrotaeye :cry:


Anonymous Hacker Who Outed Steubenville Rapists Facing Longer Jail Time Than Actual Rapists


Deric Lostutter, the hacker who exposed the Steubenville rapists, may end up facing more jail time than the rapists themselves.

In the Steubenville rape case, Deric Lostutter was the hacker who lead the Anonymous Op that exposed the suspects' tweets, videos and Instagram photos that revealed them bragging about the incident, which ended up being crucial pieces of evidence in the case against them.

As a "thank you," Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars for his connections to the Internet hactivist collective known as Anonymous.

Mother Jones reports that the FBI quietly raided Lostutter's home over his connection to the Steubenville rape case. Known as "KYAnonymous" online, Lostutter spoke about the raid, his true identity and his motives for the first time in an exclusive interview.

"The goal of the media interviews is to get the entire nation to say 'f*ck you' to these guys," he said.

Among the items collected in the FBI raid were Lostutter's computers and XBox.

The 26-year-old corporate cybersecurity consultant arguably deserves the credit for exposing the Steubenville rape case to the nation, after he obtained and published tweets and Instagram photos showing students joking about the rape of a 16-year-old girl and belittling her. They were convicted in March.

Lostutter didn't get involved in the case until he was contacted on Twitter by Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who sent him the tweets and Instagram photos.

"I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied," he said of choosing to publish the incriminating evidence.

Lostutter says that he wasn't involved in any sort of hacking, having simply published freely-available information from social media accounts given to him. Another Anonymous hacker took credit for hacking the team's Facebook page.

Whether or not he actually did anything illegal, Lostutter was investigated primarily for his ties to the hacker group, though he believes that Steubenville authorities organized the raid.

"They want to make an example of me, saying, 'You don't f*cking come after us. Don't question us."

Steubenville officials have been questioned by other media publications that speculate a cover-up was involved.

If he's convicted, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars, far more than the one- and two-year sentences handed down to the Steubenville rapists. He's currently collecting donations for his defense here, and other Anonymous hackers are spreading the word on Twitter with hashtags like #opFreeKY and #SupportKY.

    RT Drop the investigation against Deric Lostutter aka KYAnonymous. wh.gov/lloM5 #SupportKY Help the one that helped Jane Doe

    — ✨Nattie✨ (@NattieAnon) June 6, 2013

    I donated! | Whistleblower Defense League is collecting donations for Deric Lostutter / KY Anonymous Defense Fund! wepay.com/xxdfqn

    — John DeRosa (@johnderosa) June 7, 2013

Regardless of his legal troubles, Lostutter has no regrets. "I'd do it again," he said.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/692028/deric-lostutter-steubenville-hacker-facing-longer-jail-time-than-actual-rapists/#Ivd8uwmFBrXOOy8k.99

https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Ghoul

Cop Shot Litter of Kittens in Front of Screaming Children

Nonetheless, the police department chief says this cop did nothing wrong.


June 12, 2013  | 


On Monday in Ohio, animal control Officer Barry Accorti shot and killed a litter of kittens in front of freaked-out children nearby. "He informed [a witness] that shelters were full and that these cats would be going to kitty heaven," Ohio SPCA Executive Director Teresa Landon told the Sun News.



Landon said the home owner, who had called for help, assumed the officer "would be trapping them or something and taking them to a shelter and they would be humanely euthanized if they were not adopted."

"Instead, he went to his truck and got a gun, which she thought was a tranquilizer gun, and walked around to the back of the house and approximately 15 feet from her back door shot and killed the 8- to 10-week-old kittens."

The stunned observer alerted the Ohio SPCA to the officer's actions, and the animal rights group responded with a Facebook campaign to "expose" the behavior and call for accountability.

"Her children were upstairs in view of the windows. They started screaming and crying because they heard the gunshots. They started screaming, 'Mommy, he's killing the kittens,'" Landon said,  "It's heartbreaking... There is no excuse for it. It's absolutely shameful that someone with the title of humane officer would do this."

North Ridgeville Police Department Chief Mike Freeman released a statementdefending Accorti, who the Ohio SPCA has demanded be fired and charged with animal abuse.

"The cats were located within the wood pile and euthanized," Freeman said, "The cats were removed from the wood pile and taken from the residence."

He decided Accorti's "actions were appropriate," and will not "impose any disciplinary measures for the incident."
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Tex Murphy

Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Ghoul

Rape of Iraqi Women by US Forces as Weapon of War: Photos and Data Emerge

In March 2006 four US soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division gang raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl and murdered her and her family —including a 5 year old child. An additional soldier was involved in the cover-up.

One of the killers, Steven Green, was found guilty on May 07, 2009 in the US District Court of Paducah and is now awaiting sentencing.

The leaked Public Affairs Guidance put the 101st media team into a "passive posture" — withholding information where possible. It conceals presence of both child victims, and describes the rape victim, who had just turned 14, as "a young woman".

detalji i slike o ovoj odvratnosti (nije za osetljive):

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/10/03/rape-iraqi-women-us-forces-weapon-war-photos-and-data-emerge
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Naravno, ne znamo mi ko je na ovim slikama i da li je to baš tako kako ovde piše, ali je svakako ultradegutantno i ako se pokaže da je sve tako tačno, ko bi mogao da osuđuje razne nacije izvan Amerike što ne žele američke vojnike na svom tlu...

Tex Murphy

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 14-06-2013, 21:25:20
Naravno, ne znamo mi ko je na ovim slikama i da li je to baš tako kako ovde piše, ali je svakako ultradegutantno i ako se pokaže da je sve tako tačno, ko bi mogao da osuđuje razne nacije izvan Amerike što ne žele američke vojnike na svom tlu...

Мислиш - до сада нема никаквог разлога да их не желе?
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Meho Krljic

Pa, mislim, u okviru tih silnih saradnji, partnerstava za mir, NATO bratstva i jedinstva, tehnički ih žele.

Anomander Rejk

Žele ih zato što su prinuđeni i što moraju pred većom silom popuštati, ili imaju određeni interes. Ne žele ih što ih vole, sigurno.
Tajno pišem zbirke po kućama...

Meho Krljic

Ne pričamo o ljubavi. Pričamo o tome da ne bi bilo čudno da, posle ovakvih incidenata vidimo napade na američke vojnike i u prijateljskim/ savezničkim zemljama.

Meho Krljic

Liz Sidoti iz Aošijetid presa piše o nama, naravno nepoznatom fenomenu da državni činovnici direktno lažu građane:

Column: When lying is acceptable, public loses

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — A member of Congress asks the director of national intelligence if the National Security Agency collects data on millions of Americans. "No, sir," James Clapper responds. Pressed, he adds a caveat: "Not wittingly."
Then, NSA programs that do precisely that are disclosed.
It turns out that President Barack Obama's intelligence chief lied. Or as he put it last week: "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful or least most untruthful manner, by saying, 'No,' because the program was classified."
The White House stands by him. Press secretary Jay Carney says Obama "certainly believes that Director Clapper has been straight and direct in the answers that he's given." Congress, always adept at performing verbal gymnastics, seems generally unmiffed about Clapper's lack of candor. If there have been repercussions, the public doesn't know about them.
Welcome to the intelligence community, a shadowy network of secrets and lies reserved, apparently, not only for this country's enemies but also for its own citizens.
Sometimes it feels as if the government operates in a parallel universe where lying has no consequences and everyone but the people it represents is complicit in deception. Looking at episodes like this, it's unsurprising that people have lost faith in their elected leaders and the institution of government. This all reinforces what polls show people think: Washington plays by its own rules.
Since when is it acceptable for government — elected leaders or those they appoint — to be directly untruthful to Americans? Do people even care about the deception? Or is this kind of behavior expected these days? After all, most politicians parse words, tell half-truths and omit facts. Some lie outright. It's called spin.
And yet this feels different.
The government quite legitimately keeps loads of secrets from its people for security reasons, with gag orders in effect over top-secret information that adversaries could use against us. But does that authority also give the government permission to lie to its people in the name of their own safety without repercussions? Should Congress simply be accepting those falsehoods?
It wasn't always this way.
Congress was apoplectic when former aides to President Richard Nixon perjured themselves in the Watergate cover-up and when President Bill Clinton was less than truthful during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. But in those cases, the issues divided over partisan lines, and classified information relating to national security wasn't involved.
In this instance, most Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill support the underlying NSA programs even though the public is divided over them. And lawmakers aren't quick to hold Clapper accountable because, when it comes to telling the truth to Americans, their hands are hardly clean.
The public, meanwhile, has responded to Clapper's falsehood with a collective shrug. Are we just resigned to this?
Consider the results of 2012 surveys.
One from the Public Affairs Council found that 57 percent of Americans felt that public officials in Washington had below-average honesty and ethical standards. Another from the Pew Research Center found 54 percent of Americans felt the federal government in Washington was mostly corrupt, while 31 percent rated it mostly honest.
Trust in government has dropped dramatically since the 1950s, when a majority of the country placed faith in it most of the time. But by April 2013, an Associated Press-GfK poll had found just 21 percent feeling that way. And people have even less faith in Congress; a new Gallup poll found just 10 percent of Americans say they have confidence in the House and Senate — the lowest level for any institution on record.
In this case, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado, Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee, long had tried to raise concerns over the scope and breadth of post-9/11 intelligence gathering.
They were privy to the secret techniques but were barred by law from disclosing any classified information. So they had to be subtle.
Discussion on Capitol Hill about top-secret programs usually takes place in a secure room so opponents of the United States won't learn of the details.
Nevertheless, in March — before the programs the senator knew existed had been disclosed to the world — Wyden put Clapper on the spot. The senator asked about the classified intelligence operations, which Clapper was prohibited from talking openly about, in a public committee hearing.
"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" Wyden asked.
"No, sir," Clapper answered.
"It does not?" asked Wyden.
"Not wittingly," Clapper said, offering a more nuanced response. "There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect — but not wittingly."
Three months later, a former NSA contractor leaked information on top-secret surveillance programs that do, in fact, file away phone records on millions of Americans. Wittingly.
That, said Udall, "is the type of surveillance I have long said would shock the public if they knew about it."
Within days, Wyden — who says he gave Clapper a heads up a day earlier that he would be asking the question about classified information at an open hearing — accused Clapper of misleading the Senate committee in public and later in private when the intelligence director declined to change his answer from the firm "no" to the question.
"The American people have the right to expect straight answers from the intelligence leadership to the questions asked by their representatives," Wyden said.
Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., called for Clapper to resign and suggested perjury, saying he "lied under oath to Congress and the American people" and that "Congress can't make informed decisions on intelligence issues when the head of the intelligence community willfully makes false statements."
In interviews, Clapper tried to explain.
To National Journal, he said: "What I said was, the NSA does not voyeuristically pore through U.S. citizens' e-mail. I stand by that." But Clapper didn't tell the committee during the hearing that he was referring specifically to email, though he did indicate his reservations about being questioned in public on confidential matters.
Clapper also told NBC News that "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner." He added that his response technically wasn't false because of semantics over the word "collection." But he also allowed that his response may have been "too cute by half."
Whatever else it does, the episode illuminates a conflict in our system — one that we dance around whenever the subject of secrets comes up.
The Obama administration says it wants the American people to allow the NSA to do what it must to protect the nation. The president himself has assured Americans that Congress has been in the loop, making sure the NSA isn't going too far. But it's hard to see how a real check on that power is possible if Congress is unable or unwilling to provide actual oversight, much less take action when a key official involved in the program isn't straight with lawmakers.
In this case, it nudges accountability further into the shadows — and gives the American public even less of a stake in the security of the open society that we say we hold so dear.
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EDITOR'S NOTE — Liz Sidoti is the national politics editor for The Associated Press. Follow her on Twitter: http://twitter.com/lsidoti

angel011

We're all mad here.

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."


Truman

I pored toliko godina nadanja Amerika i dalje ne propade. Sram je bilo!
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

angel011

Ne dozvoljavaju gluvoj devojčici da u školskom autobusu koristi znakovni jezik, jer time ugrožava bezbednost.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/19/nj-school-board-bans-hearing-impaired-girl-signing/#.UcJw7Q9LJ0A.facebook
We're all mad here.


Ghoul

Amerikanci prijete muslimanima mecima premazanim svinjetinom

:!: :D xrofl :!: :D xrofl

Bijesni zbog prijedloga za otvaranje islamskog centra blizu (Ground Zero) Nulte tačke u New Yorku, grupa ljubitelja oružja iz Idaha odlučila je uzvratiti mecima premazanim svinjetinom, piše Huffingtonpost.com.

Kompanija South Fork Industries iz Idaha tvrdi da je njihova municija, zvana "Jihawg" odbrambena mjera protiv "onih što čine nasilje u ime islama".

Meci su premazani bojom od svinjetine, kojom kompanija pravi "haram" municiju, i tako želi spriječiti ustrijeljenog muslimana da ode u džennet.

"Sa municijom Jihawg ne ubijete samo islamskog teroristu, takođe ga pošaljete u pakao. To bi mučenicima trebalo dati nešto za razmišljanje", saopćeno je iz kompanije.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Meho Krljic

Ameri ciče kao guje ljute, ukazuju da što se slobode tiče Kina, Rusija, Kuba, Venecuela itd. nisu uporedivi sa njima!!!!!!!!

Graham on Snowden: 'The freedom trail is not exactly China-Russia-Cuba-Venezuela'

QuoteAs the international manhunt for Edward Snowden continues to unfold like a social-media-fueled spy novel—ping-ponging from Hong Kong to Moscow and, perhaps soon, Havana, Caracas and Quito—angry U.S. officials in Washington appeared on the Sunday morning talk-show circuit to talk about the accused National Security Agency leaker-turned-asylum-seeking fugitive.

"I believe he hurt our nation," South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said on "Fox News Sunday." "He compromised our national security program. The freedom trail is not exactly China-Russia-Cuba-Venezuela, so I hope we'll chase him to the ends of the Earth, bring him to justice and let the Russians know there'll be consequences if they harbor this guy."

"If they want to be part of the world community," Graham added, "want a good relationship with the United States, they should hold this fellow and send him back home for justice."

According to Russian news agencies, Snowden landed in Moscow on a flight from Hong Kong, where he was met by officials from the Ecuadoran embassy. Snowden, who is reportedly staying at an airport hotel, is said to be en route to Ecuador via Cuba and Venezuela.

WikiLeaks, which has been assisting Snowden since he blew the whistle on NSA's surveillance program, said that the former government contractor is "being escorted by diplomats and legal advisers from WikiLeaks." Ricardo Patiño Aroca, Ecuador's foreign minister, confirmed on Twitter that the government theree had indeed "received an asylum request from Edward J. #Snowden."

"Mr. Snowden is delusional," Utah Sen. Mike Lee said. "If he thinks that he's going to find a country with a better human rights record in Moscow or in Havana or in Caracas, and I think he's in for a rude awakening if that's what he's got in mind."

"Every one of those nations is hostile to the United States," Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said on NBC's "Meet The Press." "When you think about what he says he wants and what his actions are, it defies logic."

The Obama administration, Rogers said, "should use every legal avenue we have to bring him back to the United States."

And if Snowden "really believes he did something good," Rogers added, "he should get on a plane, come back, and face the consequences of his actions."

"If he cozies up to either the Russian government, the Chinese government, or any of these governments that are perceived still as enemies of ours," Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said on CNN, "I think that that will be a real problem for him in history."

On CNN's "State of the Union," New York Sen. Charles Schumer placed some of the blame on Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"Putin always seems almost eager to stick a finger in the eye of the United States—whether it is Syria, Iran and now of course with Snowden," Schumer said. "Allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways."

New York Rep. Peter King agreed, suggesting the United States put diplomatic sanctions on Putin. "We need to keep the pressure on Russia," King said. "We can't let this happen."

"I think it is important for the American people to realize that this guy is a traitor, a defector," King said earlier on Fox News. "He's not a hero."

On CBS' "Face The Nation," California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, said, "I think we need to know exactly what he has. He could have a lot, lot more that may really put people in jeopardy."

On ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," National Security Agency Director Gen. Keith Alexander said Snowden's leak had done "irreversible and significant damage."

"It's clearly an individual who has betrayed the trust and confidence we had in him," Alexander said. "This is an individual who is not acting, in my opinion, with noble intent."

scallop

Ekstra profit je ratni zločin, jer se iz njega finansiraju ratni zločini.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

S ovom Amerikom se danas sprda ko stigne:

http://news.yahoo.com/hk-says-us-got-snowdens-middle-name-wrong-064609730.html

Quote
HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong officials say the U.S. government got National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden's middle name wrong in documents it submitted to back a request for his arrest.
Snowden hid in Hong Kong for several weeks after revealing secret U.S. surveillance programs. Hong Kong allowed him to fly to Moscow on Sunday, saying a U.S. request for his arrest did not fully comply with its requirements.
Justice Secretary Rimsky Yuen said that discrepancies in the paperwork filed by U.S. authorities were to blame, although the U.S. Justice Department denied that Wednesday.
Yuen said Hong Kong immigration records listed Snowden's middle name as Joseph, but the U.S. government used the name James in some documents and referred to him only as Edward J. Snowden in others.
"These three names are not exactly the same, therefore we believed that there was a need to clarify," he said Tuesday.
Yuen said U.S. authorities also did not provide Snowden's passport number.
The decision to let Snowden leave Hong Kong irked the White House, which said it damaged U.S.-Chinese relations. U.S. officials implied that Beijing had a hand in letting Snowden leave Hong Kong, a former British colony that is now a semiautonomous region with its own legal system.
Hong Kong officials have pushed back, stressing that they followed the city's rule of law in processing the U.S. request.
The U.S. Justice Department rejected the notion Hong Kong had required clarification about Snowden's middle name — or that it needed his passport number, saying the U.S. had provided to Hong Kong all that was required under the terms of their extradition treaty.
"The fugitive's photos and videos were widely reported through multiple news outlets. That Hong Kong would ask for more information about his identity demonstrates that it was simply trying to create a pretext for not acting on the provisional arrest request," a spokeswoman said on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the department.
Yuen said the confusion over Snowden's identification and his passport were among factors that delayed an arrest. He said the government requested clarification from its counterparts in the U.S. on Friday afternoon.
"Up until the moment of Snowden's departure, the very minute, the U.S. Department of Justice did not reply to our request for further information. Therefore, in our legal system, there is no legal basis for the requested provisional arrest warrant," Yuen said. In the absence of such a warrant, the "Hong Kong government has no legal basis for restricting or prohibiting Snowden leaving Hong Kong."
Snowden flew from Hong Kong to Moscow and was expected to seek asylum in Ecuador.
Simon Young, a Hong Kong University professor specializing in criminal law, said that because of the "political sensitivities" involved in the case, authorities had not rushed the case and were taking extra care.
"I think that the Hong Kong government was insisting on a fairly high standard of completeness, and that, I assume, is their practice. They know that our courts will look at these things very closely and they don't take shortcuts," he said.
But he and other legal experts said Hong Kong authorities are typically able to exercise their discretion and use other methods, such as a photo or physical description, to identify fugitives, who often use aliases.
"It's not like he's some mystery figure. He revealed himself on TV," Young said. "The whole world knows what he looks like. So again I didn't see this presenting problems of identification."

Ghoul

https://ljudska_splacina.com/

džin tonik

sramotno je sto rusi, posebno putin, ocigledno nemaju namjeru postivati opce vrijednosti i nacela kao napredni zapadni svijet. tako se ne ponasaju demokratska drustva.

Ghoul

Nineteen firefighters were killed
while battling a fast-moving wildfire Sunday near Yarnell, Ariz., about 85 miles northwest of Phoenix.

YARNELL, Ariz. — An elite crew of firefighters trained to battle the nation's fiercest wildfires was overtaken by an out-of-control blaze in Arizona, killing 19 members as they tried to protect themselves from the flames under fire-resistant shields.

It was the most firefighters killed battling a wildfire in the U.S. in decades.

The lightning-sparked fire, which spread to at least 2,000 acres amid triple-digit temperatures, also destroyed 200 homes and sent hundreds fleeing from Yarnell, a town of about 700 residents about 85 miles northwest of Phoenix. Residents huddled in shelters and bars, watching their homes burn on TV as flames lit up the night sky in the forest above the town...

http://news.msn.com/us/19-firefighters-killed-battling-arizona-wildfire
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Джон Рейнольдс

Гледам сад, Амери бре озбиљно апсе због пискарања на "фејсбуку".

Teenager arrested for Facebook post beaten up in prison

Ово је објављено нешто раније -

Student jailed for three weeks awaiting trial over Facebook posts

Фејсбукаши, пазите шта пишете!  :lol:
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Meho Krljic

Da, teške bizarnosti. Američka paranoja vezana za terorizam prevazilazi granice apsurda. Evo šta AlfaOmegasSin  ima da kaže:

Teenage Gamer May Go to Prison for 8 Years for Violent Joke on League of Legends

дејан

San Francisco 777 Crash: Why Did So Many Passengers Evacuate With Bags?
QuoteWhen seconds can mean the difference between life and death in escaping an aircraft accident, it was startling to see so many photographs from the crash of Asiana Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport of people carrying out bags, including roll aboards that must have come out of the overhead luggage bins. At least one man interviewed in the New York Times indicated that he grabbed his bags and then his child. In that order. All I can say is that it was very fortunate that the fire was slow to spread.

...barcode never lies
FLA

angel011

Oslobodili Cimermana.

http://www.tanjug.rs/novosti/93515/cimerman-oslobodjen-krivice-za-ubistvo-crnog-tinejdzera.htm

A kad se radi o JEDNOM pucnju upozorenja, u zid (žena pucala kako bi uplašila muža nasilnika), i puca crnkinja, sledi 20 godina robije:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/
We're all mad here.

Meho Krljic


Mme Chauchat

Ozbiljno se nadam da će ovo biti povod za nove nerede kao one u Los Anđelesu '92.

Father Jape

Ja se nadam da smo odmakli od linčovanja nedužnih kamiondžija, ali masovni protesti su svakako in order. A mogli bi da se i organizovano oglase pripadnici američkog pravosudnog sistema koji misle da je ovo travestija.
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

džin tonik

uzas. nije smio pucati prije no stu mu decko slomi i drugi nos.

Tex Murphy

Znači kad nam se ne sviđa odluka suda, onda ćemo da protestujemo?
Genetski četnik

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