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Džek

Da, baš tako je mesio tortu  :D
Moj imaginarni drug mi govori da sa tvojom glavom nešto nije u redu.

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Stipan

Wikipedia i spolna diskriminacija

Američke književnice izbačene su iz kategorije 'American novelists' i prebačene u kategoriju 'American female novelists'.


http://www.booksa.hr/vijesti/sve/wikipedia-i-spolna-diskriminacija

D..

Quote from: Miljan Markovic on 15-07-2013, 12:01:09
Kakve sad pa to veze ima što je DRF progovorio? Bitno je da Dragana nastavlja svoju nebuloznu priču o "prisvajanju" zasluga oko ZS20 iako ona povodom tog izdanja gotovo da ništa hvale vredno nije uradila nego je pljuvačinom nenela samo štetu. Takođe, ona ni ne sluti da je upravo taj omraženi Scallop u uvodnoj reči na promociji ZS 20 u Kruševcu istakao je da je Dragana Matović osoba od koje je sve krenulo, iako svi znamo da ta njena ideja koja je pokrenula Radionicu nije ništa reovolucionarno novo i svi znamo da nije bilo dobre volje Bobana Kneževića nikad ne bi zaživela.
Što se tiče Scallopa, eto primera kako to radi gospoda, a Dragana bi mogla da se potrudi da za promenu jednom u svom životu svog mentora učini ponosnim.

Hoćeš li, molim te, da prestaneš da, kao poslednji palanački mediokritet, pominješ imena? Imena su nevažna. Scallop nije tražio moju dozvolu da me pominje i ja ne želim da me pominje ni u kakvom kontekstu, jer svaki kontekst u kojem me on pominje je čista manipulacija činjenicama.

Promocije ne organizujem, moje ime u medijima mi nije bitno, kao tebi tvoje.

M.M

U ovome što si napisala ima nekoliko problema.
Pod jedan: ja jesam palanački mediokritet;
Pod dva: itekako želiš zasluge oko Radionice Znaka Sagite, samim tim i za ZS20 i one postoje i njih niko ne spori;
Pod tri: koji je cilj ponavljanja jedne te iste priče meseicma, aman, bolja si od toga, e, to bih baš voleo da znam.
Nijedan poraz nije konačan.

D..

Mene u životu često vuče samo osećaj da je nešto nepravedno.

Ako si ti mediokritet, dozvoli da neko ne želi da mu se ime ili nik sa foruma provlači po medijima. Scallop me nije pitao ni za dozvolu da me pomene u uvodu. Ne pišite svačiju istoriju, pišite svoju i govorite u svoje ime, kada vam se imena već provlače po medijima.

M.M

Dragana, sve nas boli nepravda, samo ne znam kako je tebi naneta u bilo kakvom obliku ili bilo kome drugom izdanjem ZS 20?

Što se tiče "odobrenja", hajde da budemo ozbiljni.
Nijedan poraz nije konačan.

D..

Zabranjujem da moje ime pominjete na promocijama. Moja lična istorija je samo moja i imam pravo na nju. Kao i  na svoje ime, lik i delo.

M.M

O, bože, tako mi i treba...  :-x :-x :-x
Nijedan poraz nije konačan.


Stipan


Stipan


Meho Krljic

55,000 Sign Twitter Abuse Petition After Jane Austen Campaigner Receives Rape Threats               

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A petition campaigning for Twitter to improve its measures against online abuse has received more than 55,000 signatures in two days.




The petition was set up in support of feminist campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez, who faced a torrent of abusive tweets, including threats to rape and kill her, after successfully campaigning for a woman's picture to appear on a banknote; Jane Austen will appear on £10 notes from 2017.
After seeing the abuse endured over a 12-hour period by Criado-Perez, shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper wrote to Twitter criticising the social network's "inadequate" response to the "disgraceful, appalling and unacceptable" comments made against the campaigner.
Created by Kim Graham, the petition calls on Twitter to introduce a button allowing users to quickly report abuse. "We need Twitter to recognise that it's [sic] current reporting system is below required standards," it reads.


"It currently requires users to search for details on how to report someone for abuse; a feature that should be available on each user's page.
"It is time Twitter took a zero tolerance policy on abuse, and learns to tell the difference between abuse and defence. Women standing up to abuse should not fear having their accounts cancelled because Twitter fail to see the issue at hand."
Extremely weak
Writing to Tony Wang, general manager of Twitter UK, Cooper said the company's official response to such abuse "continues to be extremely weak".
Cooper added: "Of course it is right to report such abuse to the police, and it is very important that they investigate and pursue this case. But social media platforms also have a responsibility for the platform they give users. And in particular they have a responsibility not to tolerate this kind of abuse, rape threats and potentially criminal behaviour."
Wang tweeted to say Twitter is "testing ways to simplify reporting, e.g. within a tweet by using the "Report Tweet" button in our iPhone app and on mobile web...We will suspend accounts that, once reported to us, are found to be in breach of our rules."


Scotland Yard has confirmed that a 21-year-old man was arrested by police in the Manchester area on 28 July on suspicion of harassment offences. By the following morning the petition had gained more than 55,000 signatures and is soon expected to reach its goal of 75,000.
Cooper's letter to Wang continued: "I urge you to go further and ensure that Twitter carries out a full review of all its policies on abusive behaviour, threats and crimes, including more help for Twitter users who experience abuse, a clear complaints process and clear action from Twitter to tackle this kind of persecution."
A freelance journalist who co-founded theWomansRoom.org.uk and Week Woman blog, Criado-Perez said: "It's sadly not unusual to get this kind of abuse but I've never seen it get as intense or aggresive as this. It's infuriating that the price you pay for standing up for women is 24 hours of rape threats.
"We are showing that by standing together we can make a real difference. We made the Bank of England change its mind; we can do the same with Twitter."

D..

Ma, ovo i nije neka (nova) vest što se tiče zlostavljanja žena na netu, Meho. Al svaka čast ovoj ženi za novčanicu. Lepo.

Ovog puta nećemo o potrebi da se u modernom (?!) i civilizovanom (?) svetu lobira za pojavljivanje ženskog lica na novčanici.

Meho Krljic

Da, dok smo trunuli u mraku komunizma imali smo ženu na novčanici od hiljadu dinara. Sad je nemamo ni na jednoj? imamo na novčanici od dvesta dinara.

D..

Vidiš, ta zamena teza je ono što me oduvek brine. Feministkinje pričaju o sistemskim pojavama, a argumenti protiv su uvek primeri usamljenih slučajeva, pojava i žena.

Ugly MF

Sigurno da je manje zena u masonskim lozama, pa zato, no big dil, sta se sekirate ?

Meho Krljic

 :lol: Misliš da je Alija Sirotanović zaslužio pojavljivanje na novčanici od deset dinara na ime svog masonstva?

Džek

Mislim da mu je ono 'druze Tito, daj mi vecu lopatu' obezbedilo portret na 'ceneru' (kako smo ga zvali)
Moj imaginarni drug mi govori da sa tvojom glavom nešto nije u redu.

mac

Cener? Mi smo ga zvali som...

scallop

Nije bio Alija, nije bio ni cener ni som (Wikipedia je nepouzdana).
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Kimura

Alija je bio na novčanici od 2000 dinara, a na onoj od 10 je, čini mi se, livac iz Zenice. Arif, zaboravila sam prezime.

Džek

na svapskom je cen -deset, pa otud nik vasem somu. Cener je bio aktuelan u sarajevu, za resto bosne ne bih umeo da kazem.
Moj imaginarni drug mi govori da sa tvojom glavom nešto nije u redu.

Meho Krljic

Quote from: kimura on 31-07-2013, 13:04:10
Alija je bio na novčanici od 2000 dinara, a na onoj od 10 je, čini mi se, livac iz Zenice. Arif, zaboravila sam prezime.

A, da, da, tačno, moja greška.

scallop

Izgleda da nije bila ni novčanica od 2000. :-x
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

džin tonik

ovo neki alan ford? :)

Meho Krljic

Quote from: scallop on 31-07-2013, 13:15:35
Izgleda da nije bila ni novčanica od 2000. :-x

Nije. Dvadeset hiljada:

Vikipedija

Kimura

Viki kaže :

20 000 dinara - Alija Sirotanović
10 dinara - Arif Heralić

Obe su bile lepe i delovale su nekako ubedljivo.

Stipan

Sve više žena započinje vezu sa mlađim muškarcem... Naprosto, osvijestile smo se i odbacile tradicionalnu ulogu patnice koja živi za svoju djecu a poslije unučad, dok tata a bome često i deda ganja piletinu. Naravno, kako ga prepametni mediji bilježe -"trend", je započeo na Zapadu a ustvari "trend" je započeo još u pećini kada je ona čekala da on dođe iz višednevnog lova s frendovima i osjećala se zanemarenom pa se malo  bolje zagledala u mladog susjeda u pećini... Cougarsice oduvijek su postojale, samo se danas više o njima priča, i to na sreću, sve rjeđe u negativnom kontekstu.


http://www.ladylike.hr/kolumna-vise/stara-koka-koja-nemajcinski-voli-piletinu-211




Ugly MF

Yeah, MILF !  xcheers

Meho Krljic

Were the First Artists Mostly Women?
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Women made most of the oldest-known cave art paintings, suggests a new analysis of ancient handprints. Most scholars had assumed these ancient artists were predominantly men, so the finding overturns decades of archaeological dogma.



Archaeologist Dean Snow of Pennsylvania State University analyzed hand stencils found in eight cave sites in France and Spain. By comparing the relative lengths of certain fingers, Snow determined that three-quarters of the handprints were female.

"There has been a male bias in the literature for a long time," said Snow, whose research was supported by the National Geographic Society's Committee for Research and Exploration. "People have made a lot of unwarranted assumptions about who made these things, and why."



Archaeologists have found hundreds of hand stencils on cave walls across the world. Because many of these early paintings also showcase game animals—bison, reindeer, horses, woolly mammoths—many researchers have proposed that they were made by male hunters, perhaps to chronicle their kills or as some kind of "hunting magic" to improve success of an upcoming hunt. The new study suggests otherwise.

"In most hunter-gatherer societies, it's men that do the killing. But it's often the women who haul the meat back to camp, and women are as concerned with the productivity of the hunt as the men are," Snow said. "It wasn't just a bunch of guys out there chasing bison around."



Experts expressed a wide range of opinions about how to interpret Snow's new data, attesting to the many mysteries still surrounding this early art.



"Hand stencils are a truly ironic category of cave art because they appear to be such a clear and obvious connection between us and the people of the Paleolithic," said archaeologist Paul Pettitt of Durham University in England. "We think we understand them, yet the more you dig into them you realize how superficial our understanding is."



Sex Differences



Snow's study began more than a decade ago when he came across the work of John Manning, a British biologist who had found that men and women differ in the relative lengths of their fingers: Women tend to have ring and index fingers of about the same length, whereas men's ring fingers tend to be longer than their index fingers.

One day after reading about Manning's studies, Snow pulled a 40-year-old book about cave paintings off his bookshelf. The inside front cover of the book showed a colorful hand stencil from the famous Pech Merle cave in southern France. "I looked at that thing and I thought, man, if Manning knows what he's talking about, then this is almost certainly a female hand," Snow recalled.



Hand stencils and handprints have been found in caves in Argentina, Africa, Borneo, and Australia. But the most famous examples are from the 12,000- to 40,000-year-old cave paintings in southern France and northern Spain. (See "Pictures: Hand Stencils Through Time.")



For the new study, out this week in the journal American Antiquity, Snow examined hundreds of stencils in European caves, but most were too faint or smudged to use in the analysis. The study includes measurements from 32 stencils, including 16 from the cave of El Castillo in Spain, 6 from the caves of Gargas in France, and 5 from Pech Merle.

Snow ran the numbers through an algorithm that he had created based on a reference set of hands from people of European descent who lived near his university. Using several measurements—such as the length of the fingers, the length of the hand, the ratio of ring to index finger, and the ratio of index finger to little finger—the algorithm could predict whether a given handprint was male or female. Because there is a lot of overlap between men and women, however, the algorithm wasn't especially precise: It predicted the sex of Snow's modern sample with about 60 percent accuracy.



Luckily for Snow, that wasn't a problem for the analysis of the prehistoric handprints. As it turned out—much to his surprise—the hands in the caves were much more sexually dimorphic than modern hands, meaning that there was little overlap in the various hand measurements.



"They fall at the extreme ends, and even beyond the extreme ends," Snow said. "Twenty thousand years ago, men were men and women were women."



Woman, Boy, Shaman?

Snow's analysis determined that 24 of the 32 hands—75 percent—were female. (See "Pictures: Prehistoric European Cave Artists Were Female.")



Some experts are skeptical. Several years ago, evolutionary biologist R. Dale Guthrie performed a similar analysis of Paleolithic handprints. His work—based mostly on differences in the width of the palm and the thumb—found that the vast majority of handprints came from adolescent boys.



For adults, caves would have been dangerous and uninteresting, but young boys would have explored them for adventure, said Guthrie, an emeritus professor at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks. "They drew what was on their mind, which is mainly two things: naked women and large, frightening mammals."



Other researchers are more convinced by the new data.

"I think the article is a landmark contribution," said archaeologist Dave Whitley of ASM Affiliates, an archaeological consulting firm in Tehachapi, California. Despite these handprints being discussed for half a decade, "this is the first time anyone's synthesized a good body of evidence."



Whitley rejects Guthrie's idea that this art was made for purely practical reasons related to hunting. His view is that most of the art was made by shamans who went into trances to try to connect with the spirit world. "If you go into one of these caves alone, you start to suffer from sensory deprivation very, very quickly, in 5 to 10 minutes," Whitley said. "It can spin you into an altered state of consciousness."

The new study doesn't discount the shaman theory, Whitley added, because in some hunter-gatherer societies shamans are female or even transgendered.



The new work raises many more questions than it answers. Why would women be the primary artists? Were they creating only the handprints, or the rest of the art as well? Would the hand analysis hold up if the artists weren't human, but Neanderthal?



The question Snow gets most often, though, is why these ancient artists, whoever they were, left handprints at all.



"I have no idea, but a pretty good hypothesis is that this is somebody saying, 'This is mine, I did this,'" he said.


scallop

Eto ti modernog naučnog lupetanja, pa ti vidi.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Josephine

Treba slusati starije koji su ziveli u pecinsko doba.

scallop

Neće valjda mamlaze koji siluju internet?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Pa, ovo je Nešnel Džiogrefik, ne neka supernaučna novina. Ali deluje zanimljivo.

Albedo 0

vrlo zanimljivo, samo bizoni na pećini nisu umjetnost već vračanje, dakle, to su slikale vještice 8-)

scallop

Leve šake su zato što su slikane desnom. Sve ostalo je memorisanje događaja, bukvalno, strip.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Meho Krljic

Da, taj tekst govori o programiranju kao privrednoj grani/ socijalnoj sferi, ali se njegove teze mogu, čini mi se u velikoj meri ekstrapolirati na maltene sve socijalne sfere i privredne grane postindustrijskog društva. Bombastičan mu je rečnik, ali deluje mudro.  Pogotovo što se dotiče pitanja toga šta RAD čini efikasnim i kako tu određene socijalne role diktiraju efikasnost rada, ali i nečiji entuzijazam spram rada.

Ugly MF

Sta god da sta cini , i ovo i ono, ne trolujem, necu da kenjam, ali sto se posla tice....i efikasnosti uopste...

...zene imaju bre jednom mesecno PMS i to ne moze breeeeee...............

Josephine



Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Josephine

Ne znam, Đape, meni ovaj mnogo sere.

mac

Mozgovi žena i muškaraca su interno povezani na suštinski različit način. Žene su zaista bolje u nekim, a muškarci u nekim drugim stvarima.

http://io9.com/the-dramatic-differences-in-male-and-female-brain-conne-1475573498

Treba skenirati sad i mozgove samoanskih fa'afafina (samoanski treći pol, muškarci naučeni da budu žene), pa da vidimo da li na povezivanje u mozgu utiču hromozomi ili vaspitanje.

Josephine


QuoteThe scientists also say that these variations may explain why males have better motor and spatial abilities, while females have superior memory and social cognition skills.


QuoteThese differences may explain why men tend to be better at learning and performing a single task, like cycling or navigating, and why women are better at multitasking, say the researchers.


QuoteIf you look at functional studies, the left of the brain is more for logical thinking, the right of the brain is for more intuitive thinking. So if there's a task that involves doing both of those things, it would seem that women are hardwired to do those better. Women are better at intuitive thinking. Women are better at remembering things. When you talk, women are more emotionally involved – they will listen more. I was surprised that it matched a lot of the stereotypes that we think we have in our heads. If I wanted to go to a chef or a hairstylist, they are mainly men.


Pa, kada bi me pitali da biram kakav bih, radije, mozak imala, odabrala bih ovaj, boldovani.

mac

Nemoj sad da generališeš! Nemaju sve žene superior memory, nego samo one koje imaju!

Albedo 0

zlonamjeran čovjek bi rekao da je ženama i potrebna dobra memorija kako bi zapamtile gdje se koje posuđe nalazi u kuhinji! 8-)


Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: D. on 03-12-2013, 22:02:08
Pa, kada bi me pitali da biram kakav bih, radije, mozak imala, odabrala bih ovaj, boldovani.

Одабрала би болдовани, али имаш тај свој? Е, јбг, бедак.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

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