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Pojma nisam imao da se internet ovako kontroliše: http://www.kurir.rs/zabava/tech/oni-su-gospodari-interneta-srecu-se-4-puta-godisnje-i-poseduju-7-kljuceva-evo-o-cemu-je-rec-clanak-1641508
Mogao bi dobar triler da se snimi.

Otvaram temu ne samo da bih podelio sa vama ovo saznanje već zato što me zanima da l je iko do sada čuo za ovu Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers.

Ovaj, da, nije to neka tajna organizacija (nisam čitala članak, nemam pojma o čemu se u njemu radi, ali ne kapiram u čemu je misterija oko ICANN-a).

Ne kažem da je misterija, samo je meni recimo čudno što nisam čuo za tako značajnu organizaciju iako koristim internet od '97. A nisam čuo, jer se ne spominje u medijima ( dok Kurir to nije objavio! ). To bi bilo otprilike kao kad ne bih čio za FIFA iako od te iste godine otprilike pratim i fudbal...

Oni kojima treba su čuli. Mislim, to čime se oni bave je prilično nezaminljivo a tebe kao korisnika dotiče u nekom n-tom koraku. A i prilično sam sigurna da su ih silom prilika pominjali u medijima recimo kad je ukidan .yu domen.

Edit: ebart arhiv našao 73 članka, najstariji iz 2003: http://www.vreme.com/cms/view.php?id=333474

Kurirov clanak je smesan

Quote from: Irena Adler on 20-12-2014, 15:00:54
Oni kojima treba su čuli. Mislim, to čime se oni bave je prilično nezaminljivo a tebe kao korisnika dotiče u nekom n-tom koraku. A i prilično sam sigurna da su ih silom prilika pominjali u medijima recimo kad je ukidan .yu domen.

Edit: ebart arhiv našao 73 članka, najstariji iz 2003: http://www.vreme.com/cms/view.php?id=333474

Šta ću kad me privlače misterije.

I dalje ne kapiram šta je tu misteriozno. 

Sedam kljuceva  lol

Sedam pečata bi zvučalo...misterioznije.

Ne znam kako nije misteriozno - sedam ključeva za sedam ljudi iz sedam krajeva. Sreću se par puta godišnje, svi u isto vreme moraju da ubace ključ u bravu...A onda recimo jedan izvadi utoku, ubije preostalih šest, uzme im ključeve i zavlada svetom. Jbt, novi Džejms Bond bi mogao da bude na tu temu!!!

Ok, samo još da uspem da uvidim vezu između kodifikacije internet domena i vladanja svetom...

Mogućnosti  za manipulaciju su ogromne. Jedan ti je naveden i u tekstu Kurira ( lažna banka na čije račune bi se slivao novac ). Takođe, teroristi bi mogli da preuzmu nečiji domen i lažnim predstavljanjem izazovu nuklearnu katastrofu!

Aj korak po korak, molim te, naročito ovaj poslednji scenario (izvini, ne mogu da se nateram da kliknem na kurir).

Sedam kapija
Diabulus In Musica - The Seventh Gate (Secrets)

Klikni!
A što se tiče terorista...Pa zamisli samo da preuzmu IP adresu Bele kuće i  i da preko njihovog sajta objave rat Rusiji i Kini! Šta misliš, zašto su tolike mere obezbeđenja ( al da bi znala kakve su moraš da klikneš! )? Sigurno ne tek tako...

Nenenene.
Kakve veze ima šta mogu da preuzmu teroristi sa time što postoji (vrlo javna) organizacija koja "deli" internet domene?
Mislim teroristi (teorijski) mogu da preuzmu sve i svašta od bilo kog nasumično izabranog entiteta, što je ICANN poseban u tom pogledu?
I ne pada mi na pamet da kliknem.

Pa kako nije poseban? Samo poznavanje tuđih IP adresa je kao imenik i slažem se da posedovati imenik nije ništa spec, ali ako možeš da manipulišeš tim podacima, tj. menjaš ih, kopiraš isl tu se stvara prostor za malverzaciju pri čemu nema odbrane.

 

Da čitaš Svet Kompjutera verovatno bi ti sve ovo bilo manje misteriozno. 

Okie, ja odustajem. Btw. evo ti imenik... http://whois.icann.org/

Ma ne znam baš...ja više verujem Kuriru.

    To je rečenica koju nikada niko nije izgovorio ili ispisao bez širokog osmeha na licu.

Ti izgleda opet misliš da ja dedpenujem!

Truki, moraš da digneš svoju igru na novi nivo. Na ovaj nivo trola smo navikli.

Ovo je već uvreda...

Čovek je u pravu, ovo je glupost bez presedana... Truki, umeš ti to i bolje...

Nadam se da Truki barem čita forum, kad već na njemu ne piše ništa:

The people who control the internet got together in a room yesterday — here's what they're worried about

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On Thursday, in a large Romanesque ballroom on Manhattan's Amsterdam Avenue, the people who make the big decisions relating to the underlying technology of what we call the "internet" sat discussing the future.

There's a huge power shift happening in this world, away from US control and toward a more international approach. Most of the world-leading experts in this field were OK with this.

But at least one internet pioneer, Vint Cerf, who now works for Google, worried that this could break the internet into warring fiefdoms that won't work well together.

The event was held on Thursday at Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs. This conference on Internet Governance and Cyber-Security invited some of the best-known internet scholars and policymakers to discuss the technical and meaty topic known as "Internet Governance."

Looming in the background was last year's announcement that the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), a US government agency, would relinquish its oversight of the global internet naming authority — the International Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).

While this issue isn't making the front pages, it is a huge shift in power for the bureaucracies keeping the internet afloat. ICANN is the private nonprofit organization that oversees how domains are named and assigned. Up until now, the US has had formal oversight.

Despite this shakeup, Fadi Chehadé — the president and CEO of ICANN — assured the room that everything was okay. "The logical infrastructure of the internet is safe, resilient, and well governed," he said. "Most of the world now agrees on that."


Sitting in the same row with Chehadé was former ICANN chair Paul Twomey, along with the president and CEO of the Internet Society, Kathryn Brown, and Beth Noveck, who runs New York University's GovLab.

With the upcoming NTIA transition, they said, officials are scrambling to figure out how every country with a stake in the internet will get its voice heard. The term "multistakeholder internet governance" was the key buzzword, referring to a process of policymaking that attempts to include all involved parties using a consensus-based model. 

While this sounds like a logical way for governing technology used by the whole world, not everyone is thrilled.

Google's chief internet evangelist, Vint Cerf, said during his opening remarks that a multistakeholder model could lead to some tension, and perhaps fragmentation of the internet.

For example, one country's laws may not coincide with other perceptions of how online content should be disseminated. This could lead to localized data storage and perhaps even halt cross-border data flow. Germany is a great example of a country taking measures to keep its data within its borders. To Cerf, this is a frightening prospect.

Brown, on the other hand, believes that the multistakeholder model is just what is needed. "We're not looking for global agreement," the Internet Society president said. "We're looking for agreements; we're looking for consensus where it needs to happen." This model is a way to reach decisions "that are sustainable, that are trusted, that are transparent," she added.
Next goal: Improving the integrity of information online

Chehadé believes the next hurdle for the global internet community doesn't relate the underlying infrastructure of the internet. Instead, he thinks it's time to focus on "what happens on the internet."

He called this "internet integrity."

He went on, "When I see something on the internet written about me ... How do you know it is a high integrity item? How do you know this is the truth?" Chehadé believes that the next issue to be tackled is not how the internet works (which is the infrastructure that ICANN has been overseeing for decades), but how to create a better way to ensure and protect the content disseminated on the internet.

Even with this seemingly gargantuan project, the attendees seemed pleased with future prospects. In years past there were questions about how associations like ICANN could make proper internet decisions that relate to the global user base. That's no longer the case.