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Ghoul

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Meho Krljic

Eh, ne baš tačno. Egipat je bio prilično proamerički pre prevrata, a nigde se ne pominje Jemen čiji aktuelni građanski rat ima svoju sopstvenu vikipedija stranicu, a radi se o državi koja je smatrana američkim saveznikom. U Jordanu nema IS aktivnosti u ovom trenutku ali je Jordan već umešan u ratovanje u regionu i pitanje je verovatno meseca kada će imati borbe i na svojoj teritoriji. "Turkish Kurdistan" nije država i deo je Turske a Kurdi tamo dobijaju oružje, obuku i opremu od Amerike i ako iko treba da se brine zbog toga to je Turska. Dakle, ima tu dosta nepreciznosti, mada je svakom s pola mozga jasno da postoji vidljiv trend.

Meho Krljic

 Russia demands answers from Sofia, Athens as Syria flights blocked

QuoteMoscow (AFP) - Moscow on Tuesday demanded answers from Greece and Bulgaria after Sofia banned Russian supply flights to Syria from its airspace and Athens said it had been asked by Washington to do the same.

"If anyone -- in this case our Greek and Bulgarian partners -- has any doubts, then they, of course, should explain what the problem is," deputy foreign minister Mikhail Bogdanov told the Interfax news agency.
"If we are talking about them taking some sort of restrictive or prohibitive measures on the Americans' request, then this raises questions about their sovereign right to take decisions about planes from other countries -- Russia in particular -- crossing their air space," he said.
"We explain where our planes are flying to, and what their purpose and their cargo is," he added.
He said that ferrying cargo, which included humanitarian and military aid, through the airspace of a third party -- as well as obtaining permission to do so -- should be a routine procedure.
"We've never had any problems before," he said.
Washington has expressed concern following reports suggesting Moscow may be boosting military support to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and had sent a military advance team to the war-torn country.
Earlier on Tuesday, NATO member Bulgaria confirmed it had refused permission late last night for an unspecified number of Russian aircraft to cross its airspace.
Greece said on Monday that Washington had asked it to ban Russian supply flights to Syria from its airspace.
It said it was examining the US request but gave no further details.
Moscow has dismissed US concerns about its alleged Syria buildup, saying its military aid to the Assad regime was nothing out of the ordinary.
Bogdanov reiterated Moscow's official position, stressing that the only Russian military personnel currently in Syria were there to train the local army.
"Our partners -- representatives of the Syrian armed forces -- need some help and guidance," he said.
He denied Russia had any plans to boost its presence in the war-torn country and turn its naval facility at the Syrian port of Tartus into a fully-fledged base.
"We do not have such plans," he said.
Syria was a close ally of Moscow's during the Soviet era, receiving military backing at a time when Russia supported the Arab world in its confrontation with Israel. 
Bogdanov said the current military cooperation between Syria and Russia was "rather modest" compared to previous years.

Meho Krljic

 How Can You Tell There Are Russian Troops in Syria? Just Look for Some Soldier Selfies

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Although Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied that he is sending troops to Syria, selfies taken by Russian soldiers and posted on social media are telling a different story.
Russian investigative journalist Ruslan Leviev reports that an increasing number of experienced Russian troops have been deployed to a naval maintenance facility in Tartus, along Syria's Mediterranean coast. His source? Status updates and photos posted on Russia's two biggest social networking sites by members of the 810th marine brigade, an infantry force in the Russian navy.
One photo Leviev found is of a career soldier named Mazhnikov, who appears to be at the naval facility in Syria. Another soldier, Anatoly Golota, also a member of the 810th brigade, updated his status on the Russian version of Facebook with the words, "Off to Syria :))."
Russia has not denied that it's been supplying weapons to the Syrian government and helping train the Syrian military. But Putin knows that combat troops are a different story.
The naval maintenance facility at Tartus is small, and in the past has been manned by just a handful of personnel. Leviev reports that the number of troops stationed at the facility is growing, and the troops are experienced contract soldiers, not draftees.
Videos uploaded to social media sites have raised concerns that Russian troops might be involved in combat inside Syria, according to an article in Foreign Policy. However, beyond the footage, which shows a Russian-made BTR-82A armored vehicle firing its gun in Syria, no other substantial evidence of active combat involving Russian troops has been found.
While the marines may or may not be directly involved in the fighting, the presence of Russian troops in Syria shows how hard Putin is pressing for a victory by the Assad regime. Now if he can just teach his soldiers how to avoid giving themselves away on social media.

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kaće više da se popičkaju...

Meho Krljic

Heh... Ovde se ne zna jel' gora bolest ili predloženi lek:


To Imagine Syria at Peace, Think of Bosnia

Ghoul

jbg, nismo teli.

Egyptian Forces Mistake Tour Group for Terrorists, Kill 12


12 people were killed and 10 more were injured on Sunday when Egyptian anti-terror forces attacked a Mexican tourist convoy they believed to be militants, Reuters reports.

"A joint force from the police and military, whilst chasing terrorist elements in the oasis area of the Western Desert tonight, accidentally engaged four four-wheel drives belonging to a Mexican tourist group," the country's Ministry of Interior said in a statement. "The incident resulted in the death of 12 Mexicans and Egyptians."

According to the BBC, the ministry claims the tour buses were traveling in a "banned area" at the time of attack, the circumstances of which are currently being investigated.

Earlier in the day, ISIS-affiliated fighters claimed they had repelled an attack by Egyptian security forces in the Western Desert, the Guardian reports.
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Meho Krljic

Isis: Guantanamo Bay inmate who was given £1m compensation from Britain, fled to Syria to join Islamic State

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A terror suspect, who was freed from Guantanamo Bay and given £1million compensation by Britain, has joined Isis. Jamal al-Harith, a Muslim convert formerly known as Ronald Fiddler, claims he was on holiday in Pakistan when he was locked up by the Taliban who accused him of being a British Spy.

Following the US invasion of Afghanistan just days later, he was found by Special Forces troops in a Taliban prison. US authorities considered that he was 'probably involved in a former terrorist attack against the US'. He was assessed as being an Al Qaeda fighter and considered a 'high threat to the US'.

He was subsequently incarcerated at the US camp in Cuba in March 2002. However two years later, following a campaign by Tony Blair's government, he was released from the notorious US military jail. Al-Harith alleged that he had been wrongly imprisoned and was tortured during his incarceration. Protesting his innocence he said: "It was very, very hard times, but I tried to think about nothing but survival."'

When al-Harith was released in 2004, he was repatriated to England and released without charge. That year it was reported he and three other detainees launched a legal action against the US government, each demanding $10million – £5.4million at the time. Al-Harith also initiated a compensation claim on the basis that British agents were complicit in his mistreatment. It is alleged that he was given £1million of taxpayers' money to buy his silence.

It has now emerged that al-Harith fled the UK 18 months ago to fight with IS in Syria. The revelations were made after British mother Shukee Begum appealed for help to escape the terror group with her five children. Miss Begum, 33, claimed she had travelled to Syria to convince her jihadist husband to return with her to the UK. It was revealed that her husband is none other than al-Harith.

In light of his detention at Guantanamo Bay, the UK government faces intense scrutiny over a series of security lapses that meant al-Harith was able to leave the UK to join IS and his wife was able to follow him with her children in tow. The incident had brought into question the British government's efficacy in monitoring suspected terrorists.

The Mail Online reports that Home Affairs Select Committee chairman Keith Vaz said last night he would write to Home Secretary Theresa May about al-Harith because "we need to know how this journey happened without the British authorities being aware of it".



Truba

svi bi oni ISIS
ali da neko drugi živi pod tim terorom
a da onda odu uživati u mančester

Najjači forum na kojem se osjećam kao kod kuće i gdje uvijek mogu reći što mislim bez posljedica, mada ipak ne bih trebao mnogo pričati...

Meho Krljic

A Possible Coup in Saudi Arabia Signals the End of US Dominance in the Mideast

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If Saudi Arabia didn't already have enough worries in a fast-changing Middle East, yet another crisis hit home for the desert kingdom: alleged hospitalization of King Salman, thought to have Alzheimer's disease or some form of dementia. He only assumed the throne in January.
While the 79-year-old monarch's hospital stay surprised many in the West, the question global affairs and security analysts ask is: What might the future look like for Saudi Arabia now that the controversial king is sidelined? Will the rest of the royal family accept and allow Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef to lead? Or will the kingdom's royal family see division within the ranks?
These events could coalesce into a major political storm, significantly increasing the risk of instability not only within the kingdom but across the greater, strife-torn Middle East (if that's even possible).
This turn of events comes on the heels of shocking news. London's Guardian credits claims by an anonymous Saudi prince who states that two letters have circulated among senior members of the royal family encouraging them to stage a coup against King Salman. The rationale is the king and his powerful 30-year-old son, Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, have pursued dangerous policies that are leading the kingdom to political, economic and military ruin. Disclosure of these memos raises serious concerns. I find myself recalling the assassination of King Faisal in 1975.
Should royal infighting reveal itself to the outside world, it'll mark the start of the end for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as we know it. Far-reaching consequences will resound not only economically and politically but religiously and geopolitically. How?
War in Yemen: The kingdom finds itself entangled in a conflict with a next-door neighbor with no end in sight. King Salman and his son miscalculated. The longer Saudi forces continue to engage the Houthis, the more likely internal dissension within the kingdom itself grows. Images broadcast on al-Jazeera show Saudi Arabia, an outrageously rich country, pummeling Yemen, one of the poorest in the Arab world. All this generates criticism of the Saudis and sympathy for Houthi rebels.
The driving force behind the kingdom's engagement in Yemen is the king's son, serving as defense minister, who wants to show the world that, despite his youth, he can make tough calls. However, his actions in Yemen thus far demonstrate his reckless approach to international affairs, lack of experience and the absence of an exit strategy, leading to mounting costs for the kingdom in blood and treasure and growing international criticism.
Economic chaos: The drop in oil prices by more than 50 percent the past year is sending the kingdom's economy into a tailspin. Thinking among Saudi elites was to (a) maintain the kingdom's level of global oil production; (b) fight for its global market share; and (c) allow oil prices to collapse. Theoretically, this would eventually drive the competition -- especially the United States -- out of the energy business, paving the way for a subsequent return to higher oil prices. But the strategy proved to be ill-conceived. The result is the kingdom's deficit approaching 20 percent -- more than $100 billion. This outcome compels the kingdom to deplete its huge foreign exchange reserves at a record rate (about $12 billion per month).
Tension with Iran: While Saudi Arabia is home to Islam's two holiest sites (Mecca and Medina), the latest tragedy -- a stampede at the Hajj in Mecca that resulted in the deaths of at least 239 Iranian pilgrims (among many others) -- has only fueled tensions between Iran and the kingdom. The two were already crossways over the nuclear issue and Iran's destabilizing activities throughout the region. In addition, both countries are fighting through their proxies in Syria and Yemen.
I'll argue Russia's military intervention in Syria has escalated the political tensions to higher level. Of interest is the Iranian-Russian military coalition to keep the Assad regime in power and battle rebels that the kingdom and the United States support. Recently, Saudi Arabia shipped 500 TOW antitank missiles to the Free Syrian Army (FSA). These missiles, unlike other projectiles such as RPGs can be used from significant distance. This support, however, would not change the outcome.
Where from here? Russia's airstrikes in Syria underscore a broader threat to the kingdom: Put all the problems together and Saudi Arabia, more than ever, looks politically vulnerable. Its dependence on the United States for its survival the last 70 years seems to be near an end. The United States is no longer in position to play its traditional role as the only guarantor of Middle East stability. One can only imagine the scenario in which the house of Al-Saud is forced to relinquish power to another entity from within that does not share Washington's aspirations and/or agenda. That means our next president will face one more serious geopolitical headache: an unstable Saudi Arabia, the world's largest exporter of oil, site of Islam's holiest sites and a country equally bountiful in advanced American weapons and very angry Wahabi Sunni Muslims.


Meho Krljic

Telling the Truth About ISIS and Raqqa

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On Saturday night, five young Syrians slouched into a dive bar in New York and ordered drinks. When the bartender asked if off-brand vodka was O.K., they had to smile. They were all exiles from Raqqa, the provincial city in northern Syria that ISIS has made its operational center and the de-facto capital of the Islamic State. No one needed the good stuff. Just a drink would do.

Everyone in the group works for Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently (R.B.S.S.), a kind of underground journalistic-activist enterprise that, under the threat of grisly execution, smuggles images and reports on ISIS from Raqqa to its allies abroad. The group's comrades, in turn, post them on social media and its Web site. ISIS has controlled Raqqa for nearly two years and much of the foreign press looks to R.B.S.S. for first-hand reports about the daily life—and depredations—in Raqqa. And because they have dared to post reports of crucifixions, beheadings, sexual abuse, and other crimes, members of R.B.S.S., both inside the city and abroad, have been murdered by ISIS for their work.
Abdel Aziz al-Hamza, a slender man of twenty-four, acts as spokesperson. As recently as a few years ago, he was a biology student at Raqqa University who dreamed of studying pharmacology in Jordan or Turkey and returning home to start his career and a family.

"I was a normal guy," he said, after taking a first sip of his vodka-and-Sprite. "I hung out with friends at cafés and bars. None of us were political. In Syria, before the revolution, it was a crime to be political in any way." Raqqa was a relatively prosperous city with energy resources and an agricultural base. Major dams in the area are an important source of power in Syria.

When anti-regime demonstrations broke out in March, 2011, in Dara'a, a city in the south, and reports spread throughout Syria that Bashar al-Assad's security forces were firing on civilians, Hamza and many others joined in protests, in Raqqa. "We wanted to be free," he said. "It seemed simple."

As the uprising against Assad spread throughout Syria and the casualty counts rose, tens of thousands of people left Aleppo, Homs, Idlib, and other embattled cities and towns and arrived in Raqqa, which is on the northern bank of the Euphrates River. The city swelled and became known for a while as "the hotel of the revolution."

By March, 2013, Free Syrian Army (F.S.A.) troops, as well as Islamist rebel forces, including al-Nusra, controlled the city and tore down a statue of Assad's father, Hafez al-Assad, to celebrate. "Raqqa was the first liberated city in Syria," Hamza said.

But at around the same time, members of ISIS, or the Islamic State, bearing black flags, began accumulating in the nearby town of Slouk. "At first, there were only around fifteen people," Hamza said. "None of us knew about it" until fighters from al-Nusra began switching over to ISIS, which had its origin in Iraq. "Over time, around ninety per cent of the Nusra fighters in the area became ISIS, and only ten per cent of them refused," Hamza said.

In May, 2013, ISIS fighters started making kidnapping runs and attacking F.S.A. leaders, and, by late summer, there were full-scale battles with F.S.A. troops. As the F.S.A. began to suffer defeats, car bombings, kidnappings, and executions, one of the journalists at the table said, some F.S.A. soldiers "out of complete fear" also joined ISIS. People in Raqqa could see that ISIS was growing stronger, as they brought in heavy weapons from Iraq and seasoned soldiers who had fought in the Iraqi Army under Saddam Hussein. By the beginning of 2014, ISIS had absolute control of the city. They now overran the mosques, drove out Christians from the city, and turned major municipal buildings into their various headquarters. The propaganda campaign that ISIS mustered following the capture of Raqqa brought on a wave of foreigners.

"No one thought about the caliphate until 2014 when they declared Raqqa the capital of the caliphate and then these guys started coming in from all around the world," one of the R.B.S.S. journalists told me. "It was like New York! A second New York! People from Australia! From Belgium! From Germany! From France! A global tide!"

"Maybe the next World Cup will be in Raqqa!" another of the journalists said, sarcastically.

The young foreign fighters were, and remain, privileged characters in the city. There are thousands of them in Raqqa, one of the R.B.S.S. journalists said: "When you are on the street you see them everywhere. They love fast-food places and Internet cafés. They love Nutella and they've got cans of Red Bull. Chocolates! Cheesecake! People are poor and see these expensive things! But ISIS wants to keep these Western recruits happy."
The first crucifixion came early that spring—a horrific event to recall even now. Everyone at the table remembered the shock of it. Then came more: two people, shot in the head by ISIS executioners, crucified, and left for days for all to witness in the city's main traffic roundabout.

"This was something new that we had never seen, this kind of violence," Hamza said. "They started cutting heads off, crucifixions. They spread panic everywhere." There were edicts against drinking and smoking. Enforced by an all-female morality police called the Khansaa Brigade, women were made to wear the veil and, eventually, black shoes only. They are beaten if their niqab is somehow too revealing, a veil too flimsy, or if they are caught walking on the street alone.

"I can say that women are the people suffering the most under ISIS," one R.B.S.S. member said. "They can't show their faces. ISIS bothers them a lot. They take sticks and slash them on the street if the veil shows the eyes. They say, 'Hey, hey, do you want to marry me?' People have become so poor, the families so weak, that some give up their daughters to ISIS. They accept it. Sometimes ISIS forces them to do this. The Yazidis—ISIS says these people believe in Satan. And because of that their women are just traded from man to man in ISIS, sold, raped, abandoned."
Schools were closed down. ISIS's imams dominated the mosques. Many children were sent off to ISIS's religious institutions, where they were taught the most fanatical form of the faith, and then to military camps, the R.B.S.S. activists said.

"Not everyone who joined ISIS did it because they believe the ideology," Hamza said. "I have a friend who is with ISIS but doesn't like ISIS at all. ... I called him and said, 'Why did you join? You hate them!' He said, 'I am a doctor and they did not let me work. They told me, 'If you wanted to work, you have to join us.' I couldn't live otherwise. I have children...' "

In their recruiting, ISIS targets the local youth, according to members of R.B.S.S. With schools closed down, kids play aimlessly in the street. ISIS members befriend them, give them gifts, sometimes candy, sometimes a mobile phone. They ask the kids to join ISIS, one R.B.S.S. member said, "But they say, 'Don't tell your parents.' I know about one child who went missing for months. His parents looked and looked. Thirteen years old, a boy. Finally, the father said to an ISIS leader, 'Where is my son, I'll give you money.' Turns out the child was in a training camp for ISIS. They kidnap these children. They are sent to a mosque for education, so they are brainwashed with an extremist form of Islam. After this, they are sent to army camp to teach them how to fight, how to make and carry bombs. At their graduation, they have orders to execute someone––sometimes a beheading, sometimes they just cut off the head of a sheep."

There is no easy way to check every assertion made by R.B.S.S., but the accounts of extreme cruelty that they provided consistently square with the reporting done by such journalists as Rukmini Callimachi and Azadeh Moaveni, in the Times, Ben Taub in The New Yorker, and many others who have extensively interviewed ISIS members and victims in Iraq, in Europe, and along the Turkish-Syrian border.

The most powerful instrument of indoctrination for ISIS is the Internet. ISIS glorifies both the sanctity of its moral, historical, and political goals and its acts of vengeance against all whom it brands infidels. And it advertises it all without shame. "If you Googled 'Raqqa' in those early days you got their material first and only," one of the R.B.S.S. members told me. "So that was one reason why a lot of foreign fighters emigrated. And this is why we began."
In mid-April, 2014, just a month after the first crucifixions in the city, a group of six like-minded young people started to talk to each other on Facebook. The group expanded only a little before ISIS discovered it. Within two or three weeks a local imam declared that anyone who worked with R.B.S.S. would be tracked down and executed. Some civilians were arrested simply because they "liked" a post on social media.

Undaunted, R.B.S.S. activists posted on social-media sites photographs and reports of daily life in Raqqa; the whole idea was to fight ISIS propaganda on the digital battlefield.

In May, 2014, R.B.S.S. suffered its first casualty. One of the men at the bar told me: "One of our reporters was stopped at a checkpoint and his equipment was confiscated and searched." He was held for three weeks, then executed in a public square in Raqqa.

"In the beginning we didn't think it was that dangerous," Hamza said. "We didn't think they would execute us. All of us had been arrested by the Assad regime more than once during the revolution. But after this execution we met and started to talk that we don't want to lose anyone more and we started to think about whether we should stop. But in the end we decided that our lives were not more important than the life of our friend who had been killed."

Some of the R.B.S.S. activists devised what they hoped would be a safer, less traceable means of communication. Some left the city, and Syria itself, to help "from the other side." Hamza, for one, took a bus out of Raqqa and headed for Turkey; he now lives, as do most of the others at the table, in Europe. Others left after the first execution of their comrade. They remained active, receiving photographs, video, and reports from their undercover comrades in Raqqa that they post on social media.

The members of R.B.S.S. are utterly frustrated with the efforts of the West to defeat both Assad, who has fended off the opposition so far, and ISIS, which has suffered recent losses in Iraq and Syria, but which has proved capable of exacting suffering from Sinai to Beirut to Paris.

"The problem the Syrian people have with the United States is that we are suffering for five years with barrel bombs," one R.B.S.S. journalist said. "Assad has killed so many innocents, and many people have lost hope. After Assad's chemical attack, when he crossed the so-called 'red line,' the U.S. just took the weapons. It made America look like a liar and weak.

"When you say 'Raqqa,' the first thing people think of is ISIS," he continued. "They forget hundreds of thousands of civilians, normal people like us. I am not a terrorist. There are so many people, normal people, who want to live in a free, democratic Syria. We want to rebuild Syria, and the only way we can do it is through our civil-society group and others like it. If the United States government and other governments want to fight ISIS on social media, their Twitter accounts are seen as propaganda. But when real life is shown through us, and you see what life is like, normal people believe it."
Talking over the jukebox din and the raucous Saturday night conversations at the bar, Hamza asked that Americans try to imagine a city in which "the 9/11s keep happening month after month, year after year."

"Daily life is twenty-four-seven warplanes over your head," another member said. "People now feel more afraid about the idea that all over the world they want to bomb this small city. People are afraid. The city of Kubani is completely destroyed. The people of Raqqa don't want that. We love our city. The West says, 'Let's get the people out and bomb ISIS.' They can't. It's a big prison. Women under forty-five can't leave without special permission. It's a tribal area, and females can't leave without men. ISIS uses the people of Raqqa as a human shield."

The R.B.S.S. members said the American fighter planes have dropped most of their bombs on targets on the outskirts of the city or they use drones to target leaders of ISIS. They claim that Russian planes, however, have hit a hospital, two critical bridges, and a university. "The problem we have with the air strikes," one said, "is that their planes are very stupid. They're not smart bombs."

The peril for the group is unceasing. When ISIS arrests or executes a member of R.B.S.S.—or someone that they believe might be sympathetic to the group—they make a show of it on social media. One video, a member told me, showed "two friends of ours accused of working for us. And they don't. ISIS tied them to a tree and shot them. A second video shows the execution of another friend of ours accused of working for us. They strung them up in a tree in an abandoned place and shot them in the head; they made the video to say they died 'silently.' They are sending us messages like this all the time."

Hamza will soon accept an award from the Committee to Protect Journalists in the name of his comrades, living and dead. (I'm on the board of C.P.J., which arranged our meeting.) He will dedicate the award "to our martyrs," to the "anonymous heroes" of the campaign, and to the people of Raqqa.

"All of us get several threats daily," Hamza said, finishing his drink. "The last threat against me was from someone in Germany. He said I would be the next one killed. But when I think about our reporters inside Raqqa, and I am outside ... I live a normal life, doing normal things. Somehow, I don't care what will happen to me. Compared to them, I am doing nothing."


scallop

Pošto košto Hamza? Jedno je dobro rekao. Mogao je on i u Raki da pije rakiju (noname votka), dok nisu ponovo ubili tatka na Basar. A uz skromne ulične protestante brzo se skupe i oni koji bi da nešto prikolju. Do ISIS-a uvek prečica.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

дејан

хафингтон пост од пре годину дана...


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COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK


INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF HUMAN RIGHTS


Research Paper: ISIS-Turkey Links

By David L. Phillips


Introduction


Is Turkey collaborating with the Islamic State (ISIS)? Allegations range from military cooperation and weapons transfers to logistical support, financial assistance, and the provision of medical services. It is also alleged that Turkey turned a blind eye to ISIS attacks against Kobani.


President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu strongly deny complicity with ISIS. Erdogan visited the Council on Foreign Relations on September 22, 2014. He criticized "smear campaigns [and] attempts to distort perception about us." Erdogan decried, "A systematic attack on Turkey's international reputation, "complaining that "Turkey has been subject to very unjust and ill-intentioned news items from media organizations." Erdogan posited: "My request from our friends in the United States is to make your assessment about Turkey by basing your information on objective sources."


Columbia University's Program on Peace-building and Rights assigned a team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Turkey to examine Turkish and international media, assessing the credibility of allegations. This report draws on a variety of international sources -- The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, BBC, Sky News, as well as Turkish sources, CNN Turk, Hurriyet Daily News, Taraf, Cumhuriyet, and Radikal among others.


Allegations


Turkey Provides Military Equipment to ISIS


•   An ISIS commander told The Washington Post on August 12, 2014: "Most of the fighters who joined us in the beginning of the war came via Turkey, and so did our equipment and supplies."


•   Kemal Kiliçdaroglu, head of the Republican People's Party (CHP), produced a statement from the Adana Office of the Prosecutor on October 14, 2014 maintaining that Turkey supplied weapons to terror groups. He also produced interview transcripts from truck drivers who delivered weapons to the groups. According to Kiliçdaroglu, the Turkish government claims the trucks were for humanitarian aid to the Turkmen, but the Turkmen said no humanitarian aid was delivered.


•   According to CHP Vice President Bulent Tezcan, three trucks were stopped in Adana for inspection on January 19, 2014. The trucks were loaded with weapons in Esenboga Airport in Ankara. The drivers drove the trucks to the border, where a MIT agent was supposed to take over and drive the trucks to Syria to deliver materials to ISIS and groups in Syria. This happened many times. When the trucks were stopped, MIT agents tried to keep the inspectors from looking inside the crates. The inspectors found rockets, arms, and ammunitions.


•   Cumhuriyet reports that Fuat Avni, a preeminent Twitter user who reported on the December 17th corruption probe, that audio tapes confirm that Turkey provided financial and military aid to terrorist groups associated with Al Qaeda on October 12, 2014. On the tapes, Erdogan pressured the Turkish Armed Forces to go to war with Syria. Erdogan demanded that Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Agency (MIT), come up with a justification for attacking Syria.


•   Hakan Fidan told Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Yasar Guler, a senior defense official, and Feridun Sinirlioglu, a senior foreign affairs official: "If need be, I'll send 4 men into Syria. I'll formulate a reason to go to war by shooting 8 rockets into Turkey; I'll have them attack the Tomb of Suleiman Shah."


•   Documents surfaced on September 19th, 2014 showing that the Saudi Emir Bender Bin Sultan financed the transportation of arms to ISIS through Turkey. A flight leaving Germany dropped off arms in the Etimesgut airport in Turkey, which was then split into three containers, two of which were given to ISIS and one to Gaza.


Turkey Provided Transport and Logistical Assistance to ISIS Fighters


•   According to Radikal on June 13, 2014, Interior Minister Muammar Guler signed a directive: "According to our regional gains, we will help al-Nusra militants against the branch of PKK terrorist organization, the PYD, within our borders...Hatay is a strategic location for the mujahideen crossing from within our borders to Syria. Logistical support for Islamist groups will be increased, and their training, hospital care, and safe passage will mostly take place in Hatay...MIT and the Religious Affairs Directorate will coordinate the placement of fighters in public accommodations."
•   The Daily Mail reported on August 25, 2014 that many foreign militants joined ISIS in Syria and Iraq after traveling through Turkey, but Turkey did not try to stop them. This article describes how foreign militants, especially from the UK, go to Syria and Iraq through the Turkish border. They call the border the "Gateway to Jihad." Turkish army soldiers either turn a blind eye and let them pass, or the jihadists pay the border guards as little as $10 to facilitate their crossing.


•   Britain's Sky News obtained documents showing that the Turkish government has stamped passports of foreign militants seeking to cross the Turkey border into Syria to join ISIS.


•   The BBC interviewed villagers, who claim that buses travel at night, carrying jihadists to fight Kurdish forces in Syria and Iraq, not the Syrian Armed Forces.


•   A senior Egyptian official indicated on October 9, 2014 that Turkish intelligence is passing satellite imagery and other data to ISIS.


Turkey Provided Training to ISIS Fighters


•   CNN Turk reported on July 29, 2014 that in the heart of Istanbul, places like Duzce and Adapazari, have become gathering spots for terrorists. There are religious orders where ISIS militants are trained. Some of these training videos are posted on the Turkish ISIS propaganda website takvahaber.net. According to CNN Turk, Turkish security forces could have stopped these developments if they had wanted to.


•   Turks who joined an affiliate of ISIS were recorded at a public gathering in Istanbul, which took place on July 28, 2014.


•   A video shows an ISIS affiliate holding a prayer/gathering in Omerli, a district of Istanbul. In response to the video, CHP Vice President, MP Tanrikulu submitted parliamentary questions to the Minister of the Interior, Efkan Ala, asking questions such as, "Is it true that a camp or camps have been allocated to an affiliate of ISIS in Istanbul? What is this affiliate? Who is it made up of? Is the rumor true that the same area allocated for the camp is also used for military exercises?"


•   Kemal Kiliçdaroglu warned the AKP government not to provide money and training to terror groups on October 14, 2014. He said, "It isn't right for armed groups to be trained on Turkish soil. You bring foreign fighters to Turkey, put money in their pockets, guns in their hands, and you ask them to kill Muslims in Syria. We told them to stop helping ISIS. Ahmet Davutoglu asked us to show proof. Everyone knows that they're helping ISIS." (See HERE and HERE.)


•   According to Jordanian intelligence, Turkey trained ISIS militants for special operations.


Turkey Offers Medical Care to ISIS Fighters


•   An ISIS commander told the Washington Post on August 12, 2014, "We used to have some fighters -- even high-level members of the Islamic State -- getting treated in Turkish hospitals."


•   Taraf reported on October 12, 2014 that Dengir Mir Mehmet Fırat, a founder of the AKP, said that Turkey supported terrorist groups and still supports them and treats them in hospitals. "In order to weaken the developments in Rojova (Syrian Kurdistan), the government gave concessions and arms to extreme religious groups...the government was helping the wounded. The Minister of Health said something such as, it's a human obligation to care for the ISIS wounded."


•   According to Taraf, Ahmet El H, one of the top commanders at ISIS and Al Baghdadi's right hand man, was treated at a hospital in Sanliurfa, Turkey, along with other ISIS militants. The Turkish state paid for their treatment. According to Taraf's sources, ISIS militants are being treated in hospitals all across southeastern Turkey. More and more militants have been coming in to be treated since the start of airstrikes in August. To be more specific, eight ISIS militants were transported through the Sanliurfa border crossing; these are their names: "Mustafa A., Yusuf El R., Mustafa H., Halil El M., Muhammet El H., Ahmet El S., Hasan H., [and] Salim El D."


Turkey Supports ISIS Financially Through Purchase of Oil


•   On September 13, 2014, The New York Times reported on the Obama administration's efforts to pressure Turkey to crack down on ISIS extensive sales network for oil. James Phillips, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, argues that Turkey has not fully cracked down on ISIS's sales network because it benefits from a lower price for oil, and that there might even be Turks and government officials who benefit from the trade.


•   Fehim Taştekin wrote in Radikal on September 13, 2014 about illegal pipelines transporting oil from Syria to nearby border towns in Turkey. The oil is sold for as little as 1.25 liras per liter. Taştekin indicated that many of these illegal pipelines were dismantled after operating for 3 years, once his article was published.


•   According to Diken and OdaTV, David Cohen, a Justice Department official, says that there are Turkish individuals acting as middlemen to help sell ISIS's oil through Turkey.


•   On October 14, 2014, a German Parliamentarian from the Green Party accused Turkey of allowing the transportation of arms to ISIS over its territory, as well as the sale of oil.


Turkey Assists ISIS Recruitment


•   Kemal Kiliçdaroğlu claimed on October 14, 2014 that ISIS offices in Istanbul and Gaziantep are used to recruit fighters. On October 10, 2014, the mufti of Konya said that 100 people from Konya joined ISIS 4 days ago. (See HERE and HERE.)


•   OdaTV reports that Takva Haber serves as a propaganda outlet for ISIS to recruit Turkish-speaking individuals in Turkey and Germany. The address where this propaganda website is registered corresponds to the address of a school called Irfan Koleji, which was established by Ilim Yayma Vakfi, a foundation that was created by Erdogan and Davutoglu, among others. It is thus claimed that the propaganda site is operated from the school of the foundation started by AKP members.


•   Minister of Sports, Suat Kilic, an AKP member, visited Salafi jihadists who are ISIS supporters in Germany. The group is known for reaching out to supporters via free Quran distributions and raising funds to sponsor suicide attacks in Syria and Iraq by raising money.


•   OdaTV released a video allegedly showing ISIS militants riding a bus in Istanbul.


Turkish Forces Are Fighting Alongside ISIS


•   On October 7, 2014, IBDA-C, a militant Islamic organization in Turkey, pledged support to ISIS. A Turkish friend who is a commander in ISIS suggests that Turkey is "involved in all of this" and that "10,000 ISIS members will come to Turkey." A Huda-Par member at the meeting claims that officials criticize ISIS but in fact sympathize with the group (Huda-Par, the "Free Cause Party", is a Kurdish Sunni fundamentalist political party). BBP member claims that National Action Party (MHP) officials are close to embracing ISIS. In the meeting, it is asserted that ISIS militants come to Turkey frequently to rest, as though they are taking a break from military service. They claim that Turkey will experience an Islamic revolution, and Turks should be ready for jihad. (See HERE and HERE.)


•   Seymour Hersh maintains in the London Review of Books that ISIS conducted sarin attacks in Syria, and that Turkey was informed. "For months there had been acute concern among senior military leaders and the intelligence community about the role in the war of Syria's neighbors, especially Turkey. Prime Minister Recep Erdogan was known to be supporting the al-Nusra Front, a jihadist faction among the rebel opposition, as well as other Islamist rebel groups. 'We knew there were some in the Turkish government,' a former senior US intelligence official, who has access to current intelligence, told me, 'who believed they could get Assad's nuts in a vice by dabbling with a sarin attack inside Syria - and forcing Obama to make good on his red line threat."


•   On September 20, 2014, Demir Celik, a Member of Parliament with the people's democratic party (HDP) claimed that Turkish Special Forces fight with ISIS.


Turkey Helped ISIS in Battle for Kobani


•   Anwar Moslem, Mayor of Kobani, said on September 19, 2014: "Based on the intelligence we got two days before the breakout of the current war, trains full of forces and ammunition, which were passing by north of Kobane, had an-hour-and-ten-to-twenty-minute-long stops in these villages: Salib Qaran, Gire Sor, Moshrefat Ezzo. There are evidences, witnesses, and videos about this. Why is ISIS strong only in Kobane's east? Why is it not strong either in its south or west? Since these trains stopped in villages located in the east of Kobane, we guess they had brought ammunition and additional force for the ISIS." In the second article on September 30, 2014, a CHP delegation visited Kobani, where locals claimed that everything from the clothes ISIS militants wear to their guns comes from Turkey. (See HERE and HERE.)


•   Released by Nuhaber, a video shows Turkish military convoys carrying tanks and ammunition moving freely under ISIS flags in the Cerablus region and Karkamis border crossing (September 25, 2014). There are writings in Turkish on the trucks.


•   Salih Muslim, PYD head, claims that 120 militants crossed into Syria from Turkey between October 20th and 24th, 2014.


•   According to an op-ed written by a YPG commander in The New York Times on October 29, 2014, Turkey allows ISIS militants and their equipment to pass freely over the border.


•   Diken reported, "ISIS fighters crossed the border from Turkey into Syria, over the Turkish train tracks that delineate the border, in full view of Turkish soldiers. They were met there by PYD fighters and stopped."


•   A Kurdish commander in Kobani claims that ISIS militants have Turkish entry stamps on their passports.


•   Kurds trying to join the battle in Kobani are turned away by Turkish police at the Turkey-Syrian border.


•   OdaTV released a photograph of a Turkish soldier befriending ISIS militants.


Turkey and ISIS Share a Worldview


•   RT reports on Vice President Joe Biden's remarks detailing Turkish support to ISIS.


•   According to the Hurriyet Daily News on September 26, 2014, "The feelings of the AKP's heavyweights are not limited to Ankara. I was shocked to hear words of admiration for ISIL from some high-level civil servants even in Şanliurfa. 'They are like us, fighting against seven great powers in the War of Independence,' one said." "Rather than the [Kurdistan Workers' Party] PKK on the other side, I would rather have ISIL as a neighbor," said another."


•   Cengiz Candar, a well-respected Turkish journalist, maintained that MIT helped "midwife" the Islamic state in Iraq and Syria, as well as other Jihadi groups.


•   An AKP council member posted on his Facebook page: "Thankfully ISIS exists... May you never run out of ammunition..."


•   A Turkish Social Security Institution supervisor uses the ISIS logo in internal correspondences.


•   Bilal Erdogan and Turkish officials meet alleged ISIS fighters.
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Nije bio problem da Rusi sve to znaju.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


Dybuk

Nije mi jasno kako uspevaju da se provuku, koliko shvatam, ovo lice nije ucenik niti zaposleno u skoli?

Na svim javnim mestima gde se puno ljudi okuplja, stoje vojnici sa masinkama, svim ulazima u trzne centre, ispred svih pojedinacnih prodavnica stoji obezbedjenje sa metal detektorima.

Oni procenjuju koja je lokacija bezbednosno interesantna, pa salju obezbedjenje verovatno, ali nisu li skole takodje mesta gde se okuplja puno ljudi i koje zahtevaju paznju?

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prvo pomislio da ucenik, neki djecarac, pubertet, ovo-ono, ali bit ce nije...

France teacher stabbed in class by man 'shouting Islamic State'

QuoteThe attacker shouted: "This is for Daesh [Islamic State]. It's a warning", stabbing the teacher with a box cutter or scissors before fleeing.

The life of the teacher, 45, who was alone in the room, is not in danger.

France remains on high alert after the terrorist attacks in Paris on 13 November that left 130 people dead.
Fled on foot

Police sources said the teacher was stabbed in the side and throat at about 07:10 (06:10 GMT) as he was preparing for class at the Jean-Perrin preschool, which caters for children between the ages of three and six.

The attacker reportedly arrived wearing a balaclava
and gloves but was unarmed and used weapons he found in the classroom.

The attacker fled on foot and is still on the run. A manhunt is under way.

Local official Philippe Galli said there were no children present at the time of the attack but other staff members were in the building. Classes have been cancelled.

The teacher is being treated in hospital and has not yet been interviewed by police.

The anti-terrorism branch of the Paris prosecutor's office has opened an investigation for attempted murder in relation to a terrorist act.

The Islamic State's French-language magazine Dar-al-Islam recently urged followers to kill teachers in France, describing them as "enemies of Allah" for teaching secularism, Agence France-Presse news agency reports.

Security has been strengthened at schools since the Paris attacks.

Education Minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem travelled to the Aubervilliers school on Monday, calling the attack an "act of great gravity" that was "unacceptable".

Last week, she said the terrorist threat was "real and permanent", adding: "All public places must be protected, particularly schools."

Aubervilliers is in the Seine-Saint-Denis department of the Ile-de-France region.

In the 2010 census, Aubervilliers had a population of 76,000, including a large number of immigrants, mostly from North African Maghreb countries.

Ayoub El-Khazzani, who was arrested after being tackled by passengers during a suspected gun attack on a French train in August, lived in Aubervilliers for a number of months.

Dybuk

E bas lepo. Mnogo zaguljeno, kako kontrolisati toliki narod?

džin tonik

sf-ovci znaju: 1984, borg... :lol:

serious, ovo kako opisujes pariz zvuci bas poput ratnog stanja. dok je meni pariz prije nedavnog atentata, osim koje uske cetvrti, djelovao poput bureta baruta. prosto osjetis napetost i poglede koji bi te "raskomadali".

Dybuk

Sto, pa ja bas volim da zivim u policijskoj drzavi :lol: Na stranu, ipak je dosta toga samo forma, zosko. Mozda u tome lezi problem.

Mislim, ne shvati pogresno, ja mrzim da cekam u 2 reda da bih usla u prodavnicu :lol:

i da pijem kafu napolju jer ne mogu da zapalim unutra!!!!

džin tonik

problem je u francuzima, vjecni. sve bi rijesio jedan lijepi anschluss ili blitzkrieg. :lol:


Albedo 0



Dybuk


džin tonik

steta sto ne navode nista o motivima, ideoloskom i sl.
ali ipak je moj smajli na prvu vijest bio prorocanski. ha! :lol:

Dybuk

Motiv je da je debil, verovatno glasac nacionalnog fronta, ako ima ideologije.

džin tonik

ma ok, debil, ali ovisno o pozadini, njegov postupak bi mogao biti paranoidan uz savrsenu logiku nekog zatvorenog toka misli, pa bi ga trebao lijeciti i resocijalizirati, ne pausalno osuditi. a vjerojatno je i bijelac.. :roll:

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OTETI SRBI NA BLISKOM ISTOKU PALI U RUKE ISISA? Džihadisti zauzeli grad u kojem su zatočeni već više od mjesec dana

QuoteDžihadisti Islamske države prije tri dana osvojili su libijsku Sabratu na afričkoj obali Sredozemlja koji se nalazi oko 65 km zapadno od Tripolija, a u kojem se nalaze oteti i zatočeni Srbi Slađana Stanković i Jovica Stepić, piše srpski Informer.

Prema izvještajima stranih medija u ovom gradu od subote ne postoje ni jedne druge vojne formacije osim ISIS-a. Također, ne zna se jesu li otmičari sa sobom poveli Slađanu i Jovicu ili su ih jednostavno prepustili džihadistima.

– Od prije nekoliko dana stvari tamo su još gore, pošto su džihadisti u potpunosti preuzeli komandu nad gradom. Sabrata je za njih vrlo važna točka zbog antičkog rimskog grada koji žele uništiti. Od tada je izgubljen svaki kontakt s otmičarima i ne zna se šta je sa službenicima srpske ambasade koji su zatočeni u tom gradu – kazao je izvor blizak istrazi za Informer.

Suprug Slađane Stanković, Aleksandar, ne zna šta se događa s njegovom ženom već duže vrijeme.

– Od studenog, kada je Slađana oteta zajedno s vozačem Jovicom Stepićem, nemam ni jednu konkretnu informaciju. Ova agonija traje više od mjesec dana i bojim se da nitko ne zna šta će biti sa Slađanom i Jovicom – priča očajan Slađanin suprug.

O otetim Srbima posljednji put se oglasio prije dva tjedna glavni tajnik srpskog ministarstva vanjskih poslova Veljko Odalović, koji je kazao kako se nada da će se sve riješiti na najbolji način.

– Iz sigurnosnih struktura uvjeravaju nas da su oteti u dobrom stanju i da će se ovo brzo okončati na najbolji mogući način – rekao je tada Odalović.

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'PREOBRATITE SE NA ISLAM ILI ĆETE OSTATI BEZ GLAVE' Diljem Švedske ljudi dobili pisma jezivog sadržaja, potpisao ih je ISIS!

QuoteŠvedska policija detaljno istražuje brojna pisma koja su se proteklih dana našla u poštanskim sandučićima diljem Švedske u kojima džihadisti prijeti svima koji se neće preobratiti na islam. Pisma su potpisali teroristi ISIS-a, a na vrhu je nacrtana i zastava Islamske države. Sukus pisma je poprilično jasan.

- Odrubit ćemo vam glavu ako se ne preobratite na islam. Ili ako ne platite religijski porez...

Pisma su poslana u gradove diljem Švedske, a u njima stoji 'da nema smisla zvati policiju, jer ona vas neće spasiti od sigurne smrti'. Također, u pismu još stoji:

- U ime Alaha, vi koji niste vjernici u roku tri dana odrubit ćemo vam glave. Poslije ćemo bombardirati vaše trule leševe. Imate tri izbora - preobratiti se na islam, platiti religijski porez ili - umrijeti! Policija vas neće spasiti.

Švedska policija ove prijetnje je shvatila vrlo ozbiljno i mjere osiguranja, pogotovo u Stockholmu, podignute su na veću razinu.

Inače, u Švedskoj su tenzije usijane u posljednjih nekoliko mjeseci nakon što je u zemlju ušlo 200.000 izbjeglica iz Sirije. Tek proteklog mjeseca mjere osiguranja na granicama su drastično povećane i detaljno se provjerava baš svaki tražitelj azila.

:roll:

Meho Krljic

Pakistan Taliban reject Islamic State leader's claim to be 'caliph'

Quote
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistan's Taliban have rejected Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's claim to be the global leader of all Muslims, the movement said in a statement seen by Reuters on Saturday.
The Pakistani Taliban's statement comes after a similar rejection by the Afghan Taliban following pledges of allegiance from low-level commanders of both Islamist movements to the Middle East-based Islamic State (IS).
Last year, IS, an al Qaeda offshoot, proclaimed its leader as "caliph" - the head of the state. Al-Baghdadi aspires to establish a global caliphate with himself at its head.
The latest statement from the Pakistani Taliban comes amid speculation that the movement's leadership, whose goal is to topple the government of prime minister Nawaz Sharif and set up a sharia state, is actually wary of IS, which is driven by different ambitions that have little to do with South Asia.
"Baghdadi is not Khalifa (caliph) because in Islam, Khalifa means that he has command over all the Muslim world, while Baghdadi has no such command; he has command over a specific people and territory," the Pakistan Taliban said in a statement.
"Baghdadi is not a Islamic Khalifa because his selection is not according to Islamic rules," the statement said, adding that the IS leader had little control in Muslim countries like Egypt, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan.
The Pakistani Taliban operate separately from the Afghan insurgents of the same name, but are loosely aligned with them.
Late last year, a few breakaway factions of the Pakistani Taliban declared allegiance to Islamic State and ordered militants across the region to join its campaign to set up a global Islamic caliphate.
Pakistani authorities say IS has no financial ties with any Pakistani group. But there are concerns about further turmoil in the region as U.S.-led foreign troops withdraw from Afghanistan, with groups like the Haqqani network and IS likely to exploit the security vacuum.
The entry of Islamic State, while its numbers remain small, will also complicate Pakistan's fight against indigenous Islamist militants fighting to overthrow the government.
The Pakistani Taliban have been beset by bitter internal rivalries in the recent past, with the influential Mehsud tribal faction of the group refusing to accept the authority of Mullah Fazlullah, who came to power in late 2013.
IS, in an effort to extend its global reach, could exploit these rivalries to its advantage, wading into a region ripe with fierce anti-Western ideology and full of young unemployed men ready to take up guns and fight for Islam.
In its latest statement, the Pakistani Taliban, like the Afghan Taliban, also condemn the 'barbarity' of Islamic State's rule.
"Baghdadi's caliphate is not Islamic because in a real caliphate you provide real justice while Baghdadi's men kill many innocent mujahideen (fighters) of other groups," the statement said.
Earlier this year, the Afghan Taliban sent a letter to al-Baghdadi to stop recruiting in Afghanistan, saying there is room for only "one flag, one leadership" in their fight to re-establish strict Islamist rule.
(Reporting by Saud Mehsud; Writing by Mehreen Zahra-Malik; Editing by Tom Heneghan)

Ghoul

meho, baš su vickasti ovi tvoji:  xrofl

Исламска Држава позива Србе да заједно руше Европу

недеља, 20 децембар 2015

Исламска држава је објавила нови приступ борби против Запада. Поред уобичајених претњи упућених на адресе чак 60 земаља у новом видеу који је освануо на интернету се говори нешто ново. Џихадисти поручују земљама Европе и Балкана да ће их "спалити пламени рата".

"Ми се клањамо само Алаху. Стога позивамо народе Европе, а пре свега Балкана, да нам не буду сметња у походу на Европу"

Припадници турске фракције Исламске државе најављују нови муслимански поход на Европу:

"Ми ћемо опет доћи да покоримо Европу. Позивамо Балканце, а пре свега Србе, који су много пропатили под западном чизмом, да нам се придруже у светом рату против демонске Европе која је запала у декаденцију и неморал попут Содоме и Гоморе. Срби, ако нам се придружите у инвазији на трулу ђаволску Европу имаћете велике бенефите и у територијалном и у економском погледу. Ми вам не нудимо јалове евроинтеграције од којих нема ништа, већ вам нудимо освајање и уједињење Европе под нашом силом. Ви немате разлога да браните Европу после Јасеновца или после прогона Срба из Хрватске.

Ми не желимо да ратујемо са вама већ да заједнички ударимо последње ексере на европски мртвачки ковчег. Поздрављамо чињеницу да сте пропустили пола милиона муслимана који иду у Немачку са циљем да од ње направе Исламску државу Германију. Због тога верујемо да ћете изаћи из ђаволске коалиције и да ћете се придружити нама који вам нудимо много више од евроинтеграција – нудимо вам сва богатства Европе. Нудимо вам право на освету због бомбардовања 1999, али и због геноцида који је запад више пута учинио над вама. Сетити се да сте пре нешто више од три века са нама јуришали на Беч. Поздрављамо вас са 'Алах је велики, браћо Срби'."
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Meho Krljic

Zeman govori ono što u Srbiji niko sem Nenada Popovića ne bi rekao jer se plaše za rejting:

Czech leader calls migrant wave in Europe an 'organised invasion'

Quote
Czech President Milos Zeman called the current wave of refugees to Europe "an organised invasion", adding young men from Syria and Iraq should instead "take up arms" against the Islamic State (IS) group.
"I am profoundly convinced that we are facing an organised invasion and not a spontaneous movement of refugees," said Zeman in his Christmas message to the Czech Republic released Saturday.
He went on to say that compassion was "possible" for refugees who are old or sick and for children, but not for young men who in his view should be back home fighting against jihadists.
"A large majority of the illegal migrants are young men in good health, and single. I wonder why these men are not taking up arms to go fight for the freedom of their countries against the Islamic State," said Zeman, who was elected Czech president in early 2013.
He added that their fleeing their war-torn countries only serves to strengthen the IS group.
The 71-year-old evoked a comparison to the situation of Czechs who left their country when it was under Nazi occupation from 1939-1945.
It is not the first time Zeman has taken a controversial stance on Europe's worst migrant crisis since World War II.
In November, the leftwinger attended an anti-Islam rally in Prague in the company of far-right politicians and a paramilitary unit.
The country's Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka, who has previously criticised the head of state's comments, said Zeman's Christmas message was based "on prejudices and his habitual simplification of things".
Migrants are not the only target of Zeman's caustic remarks: he said last week that his country should introduce the euro on the first day after indebted Greece's departure from the common currency, causing Athens to recall its ambassador.
He also said he was "very disappointed" that talks in the summer to eject Greece from the euro did not come to fruition.
Both the Czech Republic and Slovakia, former communist countries that joined the European Union in 2004, have rejected the EU's system of quotas for distributing refugees amid the current migrant wave.
More than one million migrants and refugees reached Europe this year, mainly fleeing violence in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.
The crisis has strained ties within the European Union, with mostly newer members taking a firm anti-migrant stance and some northern countries like Germany welcoming those fleeing war.
Few asylum seekers have chosen to stay in the Czech Republic, a NATO member nation of 10.5 million people.
Regardless, a recent survey showed that nearly 70 percent of Czechs oppose the arrival of migrants and refugees in their country.


Agota

HOROR U NEMAČKOJ: Afrički migranti silovali žene širom zemlje u novogodišnjoj noći! (VIDEO)
Silovanja, maltretiranja i pljačkanja žena dogodila su se u više većih nemačkih gradova.

"Potpuno je neprihvatljivo da naši gradovi postanu zone bezakonja. Naši građani i naši gosti moraju da se osećaju bezbedno", rekla je gradonačelnica Kelna Henrijet Reker uoči današnjeg kriznog sastanka na kom predstavnici politike i policije analiziraju kako je u novogodišnjoj noći došlo do eskalacije nasilja kada je, prema sadašnjim saznanjima, grupa od preko hiljadu mitranata iz arapskog, to jest severnoafričkog područja, počela da divlja na i oko glavne železničke stanice u Kelnu.

Tom prilikom je došlo do masovnog seksualnog zlostavljanja žena, pljački a prijavljen je i jedan slučaj silovanja.

"Bilo je strašno, bilo ih je na stotine, opkolili su nas i seksualno napastovali", ispričala je za Kelner štajtancajcer jedna od oko stotinjak Nemica koje su podnele krivičnu prijavu.

Ministar unutrašnjih poslova Severne Rajne-Vestfalije Ralf Jeger najavio je da će policija "sistemski" obraditi svaki slučaj i da će ubuduće biti pojačano prisutna na osetljivim mestima.

"Mi ne možemo da prihvatimo da se grupe muškaraca iz severne Afrike organizuju da bi drskim seksualnim napadima ponižavali bespomoćne žene", rekao je Jeger.

Siledžije su azilanti iz severnoafričkih zemalja, starosti od 15 do 35 godina, koji, s obzirom da nemaju izgleda da dobiju trajni izbeglički status, u Nemačku ciljano dolaze da bi se bavili kriminalom dok traje obrada njihovog zahteva.

Pošto su događaji iz Kelna dospeli u medije, i iz drugih gradova kao što su Hamburg i Štutgart stigle su vesti o sličnim slučajevima. Portal Hafington post piše da je trgovina drogom Kelnu i drugim većim nemačkim gradovima "čvrsto u rukama" severnoafričkih bandi, koje u prihvatilištima za izbeglice regrutuju nove kriminalce. Osim trgovinom drogom, te bande bave se i organizovanim džeparenjem i provalama u stanove i automobile. Međutim, napadi na žene predstavljaju novu dimenziju nasilja, rekao je predsednik uprave policije Kelna Volfgang Abers.

Političari u Kelnu strahuju da bi ovo nasilje moglo da se ponovi u februaru, kad poznati karneval privuče preko milion gostiju iz celog sveta.

"Dugo smo ih smatrali tabuom, ali konačno moramo da se suočimo s normama muškog ponašanja u muslimanskoj kulturi koje odobrava nasilje", poručila je preko Tvitera bivša ministarka porodice Kristina Šreder. Ona je i ranije upozoravala na "mačo kulturu" muškaraca iz tradicionalnih islamskih delova sveta koji poslednjih meseci dolaze u Evropu.

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This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Josephine

Čuj, političari strahuju, a ministarka to zove "mačo kulturom". Kakva tunjava i blaga reakcija Nemaca. Strahuju u sopstvenoj zemlji, a zlostavljanje žena zovu mačo kulturom.  :roll:

Nasilje je organizovano i namerno usmereno na žene. Inače se nasilje nad ženama ne shvata dovoljno ozbiljno, otud su one i meta, a otud i tako nemušta reakcija nemačkih zvaničnika.

Naravno da će da se ponovi i to sa još gorim posledicama. Kao što rekoh, ja bih ovo već sada tretirala kao teroristički napad.

Agota


ja se plasim da ce Nemacka za 20 god da bude Francuska... a Merkelova je najebala...od najvece kancelarke...
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Ugly MF


Ja imam resenje!
Kad nagrnu izbeglice, pustis ih, udomis, bas kao mi Srbi...
...kad se organizuju,krenu u demonstracije, lepo kordon,tenkove,vodene topove, pa sve to izgazis i sameljes, pa tek onda operes ulice,jelte, s' vodenim topom....
...bas kao Kinezi!

Ghoul

Quote from: Agota on 10-01-2016, 14:56:01ja se plasim da ce Nemacka za 20 god da bude Francuska... a Merkelova je najebala...od najvece kancelarke...

siroti njemci... :(




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džin tonik

Quote from: Agota on 10-01-2016, 14:56:01
ja se plasim da ce Nemacka za 20 god da bude Francuska...

to nije moguce. nijemci nemaju mentalitet vjecnog odlaganja "problema", zivotarenja, pitanje tek u kojem ce smjeru sve otici, lijepom ili ruznom.

nezamislivo da bi bila moguca odredjena pojava getoizacije, bilo kakva grupacija prilika, dominacija skupova na javnim mjestima koja bi ih cak u predrasudama trajno ogranicila u osjecaju sigurnosti ili kretanju.

imaju tesko povjesno breme, humani jesu, daleko vise no ex-yu, no ako integracija ne urodi plodom, nece trpiti, vec se radikalizirati. a radikalizacija u nj ne znaci kafanske price, sitne selektivne ispade i politikanska naklapanja, vec ciljano-djelotvorno, planski, strukturirano, nemilosrdno i bezosjecajno.

Dybuk

Al ce ih zato ubiti PC. Tj, figurativno receno.

džin tonik

reci to onoj dvadesetorici koji neki dan poharali keln doslovno u lovu na dokone grupacije stranaca ili grupi od petorice pakistanaca koje "sreli"...

Dybuk

Ah, u svakom zitu ima kukolja, to je mali procenat stanovnistva.

džin tonik

ne, taj procenat, tocno takav, u njemackoj nije konstanta, poput fr, vec raste proporcionalno osjecaju ugrozenosti kroz sve slojeve drustva sve do potrebne "adekvatne" razine.

Dybuk

Ok, hocete li imati 80% skinsa kako osecaj ugrozenosti bude rastao or what? Umesto, ne znam, 1% ili manje? Cini se da ni Francuzi nisu imuni, Le Pen lepo prolazi na izborima, koliko sam ispratila, mada me naravno njihov izborni sistem i sve to ne zanima. Hocu reci, nijedan narod nije imun na ovo, strah je veliki pokretac. I desne opcije cvetaju u ovakvim okolnostima. Kako Nemci stoje sa desnim opcijama, jesu li uopste vidljive u tom odnosu snaga?